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RE: Will Candle make any coaching changes?
Answering the question, Candle is very stubborn and won't make changes unless he is forced to. The O Line coach needs to go because that is our biggest problem. But, he's a Mount Union guy, so someone has to force him. He needs to stop calling plays and have his OC up in the box making the calls. Maybe he can concentrate on on-field discipline.
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RE: Will Candle make any coaching changes?
(12-21-2021 03:02 PM)DetroitRocket Wrote:  Answering the question, Candle is very stubborn and won't make changes unless he is forced to. The O Line coach needs to go because that is our biggest problem. But, he's a Mount Union guy, so someone has to force him. He needs to stop calling plays and have his OC up in the box making the calls. Maybe he can concentrate on on-field discipline.

Really need to rebuild the OL.
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RE: Will Candle make any coaching changes?
(12-21-2021 03:02 PM)DetroitRocket Wrote:  Answering the question, Candle is very stubborn and won't make changes unless he is forced to. The O Line coach needs to go because that is our biggest problem. But, he's a Mount Union guy, so someone has to force him. He needs to stop calling plays and have his OC up in the box making the calls. Maybe he can concentrate on on-field discipline.

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RE: Will Candle make any coaching changes?
(12-21-2021 04:07 PM)wetsu Wrote:  
(12-21-2021 03:02 PM)DetroitRocket Wrote:  Answering the question, Candle is very stubborn and won't make changes unless he is forced to. The O Line coach needs to go because that is our biggest problem. But, he's a Mount Union guy, so someone has to force him. He needs to stop calling plays and have his OC up in the box making the calls. Maybe he can concentrate on on-field discipline.

+1

Who if anyone forces a HC to change coaches? Maybe more importantly, what finally caused him to realize he needed a change last year? Was he forced? Or was it just connections he wanted that became available?

Not knowing the inner workings, I can only imagine scenarios. A very likely lame-duck HC needs to convince "better" caoches with whom he likely has had no previous professional experience in to work for him for what, a year. Who with a lot of choices hires into a lame duck situation unless they have a GOOD chance of replacing the duck?

This might be one way for a new AD to bring in the next HC except, there is no new AD.
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RE: Will Candle make any coaching changes?
(12-21-2021 05:07 PM)eastisbest Wrote:  
(12-21-2021 04:07 PM)wetsu Wrote:  
(12-21-2021 03:02 PM)DetroitRocket Wrote:  Answering the question, Candle is very stubborn and won't make changes unless he is forced to. The O Line coach needs to go because that is our biggest problem. But, he's a Mount Union guy, so someone has to force him. He needs to stop calling plays and have his OC up in the box making the calls. Maybe he can concentrate on on-field discipline.

+1

Who if anyone forces a HC to change coaches? Maybe more importantly, what finally caused him to realize he needed a change last year? Was he forced? Or was it just connections he wanted that became available?

Not knowing the inner workings, I can only imagine scenarios. A very likely lame-duck HC needs to convince "better" caoches with whom he likely has had no previous professional experience in to work for him for what, a year. Who with a lot of choices hires into a lame duck situation unless they have a GOOD chance of replacing the duck?

This might be one way for a new AD to bring in the next HC except, there is no new AD.

Update email I received yesterday from the UT President says the new AD will be in place in February.
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RE: Will Candle make any coaching changes?
(12-21-2021 05:25 PM)RangerRocket Wrote:  
(12-21-2021 05:07 PM)eastisbest Wrote:  
(12-21-2021 04:07 PM)wetsu Wrote:  
(12-21-2021 03:02 PM)DetroitRocket Wrote:  Answering the question, Candle is very stubborn and won't make changes unless he is forced to. The O Line coach needs to go because that is our biggest problem. But, he's a Mount Union guy, so someone has to force him. He needs to stop calling plays and have his OC up in the box making the calls. Maybe he can concentrate on on-field discipline.

+1

Who if anyone forces a HC to change coaches? Maybe more importantly, what finally caused him to realize he needed a change last year? Was he forced? Or was it just connections he wanted that became available?

Not knowing the inner workings, I can only imagine scenarios. A very likely lame-duck HC needs to convince "better" caoches with whom he likely has had no previous professional experience in to work for him for what, a year. Who with a lot of choices hires into a lame duck situation unless they have a GOOD chance of replacing the duck?

This might be one way for a new AD to bring in the next HC except, there is no new AD.

Update email I received yesterday from the UT President says the new AD will be in place in February.

"Our goal is to announce the next AD for Rocket Athletics in February."
Let's hope they can realize that goal.
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RE: Will Candle make any coaching changes?
(12-21-2021 06:28 PM)NewMex RocketFan Wrote:  
(12-21-2021 05:25 PM)RangerRocket Wrote:  
(12-21-2021 05:07 PM)eastisbest Wrote:  
(12-21-2021 04:07 PM)wetsu Wrote:  
(12-21-2021 03:02 PM)DetroitRocket Wrote:  Answering the question, Candle is very stubborn and won't make changes unless he is forced to. The O Line coach needs to go because that is our biggest problem. But, he's a Mount Union guy, so someone has to force him. He needs to stop calling plays and have his OC up in the box making the calls. Maybe he can concentrate on on-field discipline.

+1

Who if anyone forces a HC to change coaches? Maybe more importantly, what finally caused him to realize he needed a change last year? Was he forced? Or was it just connections he wanted that became available?

Not knowing the inner workings, I can only imagine scenarios. A very likely lame-duck HC needs to convince "better" caoches with whom he likely has had no previous professional experience in to work for him for what, a year. Who with a lot of choices hires into a lame duck situation unless they have a GOOD chance of replacing the duck?

This might be one way for a new AD to bring in the next HC except, there is no new AD.

Update email I received yesterday from the UT President says the new AD will be in place in February.

"Our goal is to announce the next AD for Rocket Athletics in February."
Let's hope they can realize that goal.

Thats seems odd and rushed as search committee just started last month, and 3 months or so for important VP position is fast, and that may not be a good sign. Plus MOB retires in April (although I suspect he has enough unused vacation time that he could depart 1-2 months before). Regardless of the process and timeline lets hope it is a serious true national search and UT secures a great next AD. (and if in place by as early as Feb, not sure that really changes anything in terms of Candles job for 2022 season)
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RE: Will Candle make any coaching changes?
Earliest I see someone in place would be early/mid March!
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RE: Will Candle make any coaching changes?
(12-22-2021 10:57 AM)PaulJ Wrote:  
(12-21-2021 06:28 PM)NewMex RocketFan Wrote:  
(12-21-2021 05:25 PM)RangerRocket Wrote:  
(12-21-2021 05:07 PM)eastisbest Wrote:  
(12-21-2021 04:07 PM)wetsu Wrote:  +1

Who if anyone forces a HC to change coaches? Maybe more importantly, what finally caused him to realize he needed a change last year? Was he forced? Or was it just connections he wanted that became available?

Not knowing the inner workings, I can only imagine scenarios. A very likely lame-duck HC needs to convince "better" caoches with whom he likely has had no previous professional experience in to work for him for what, a year. Who with a lot of choices hires into a lame duck situation unless they have a GOOD chance of replacing the duck?

This might be one way for a new AD to bring in the next HC except, there is no new AD.

Update email I received yesterday from the UT President says the new AD will be in place in February.

"Our goal is to announce the next AD for Rocket Athletics in February."
Let's hope they can realize that goal.

Thats seems odd and rushed as search committee just started last month, and 3 months or so for important VP position is fast, and that may not be a good sign. Plus MOB retires in April (although I suspect he has enough unused vacation time that he could depart 1-2 months before). Regardless of the process and timeline lets hope it is a serious true national search and UT secures a great next AD. (and if in place by as early as Feb, not sure that really changes anything in terms of Candles job for 2022 season)

For comparison's sake; WMU had no problem bringing in an experienced new AD to replace an old standing one. They did it before Christmas.
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RE: Will Candle make any coaching changes?
How does Hallet still have a job as Toledo’s offensive line coach? Candle really isn’t going to address this? Maybe he simply has no one better to replace him. Wouldn’t surprise me since he came straight from D3 and probably doesn’t have many connections. Crazy how someone can perform so poorly, yet keep their high paying job. Must be nice.

Ohio State fired its OL coach 7 days ago…just sayin’
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(01-13-2022 12:02 PM)inductchuck16 Wrote:  How does Hallet still have a job as Toledo’s offensive line coach? Candle really isn’t going to address this? Maybe he simply has no one better to replace him. Wouldn’t surprise me since he came straight from D3 and probably doesn’t have many connections. Crazy how someone can perform so poorly, yet keep their high paying job. Must be nice.

Ohio State fired its OL coach 7 days ago…just sayin’

Right on
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(01-13-2022 12:02 PM)inductchuck16 Wrote:  How does Hallet still have a job as Toledo’s offensive line coach? Candle really isn’t going to address this? Maybe he simply has no one better to replace him. Wouldn’t surprise me since he came straight from D3 and probably doesn’t have many connections. Crazy how someone can perform so poorly, yet keep their high paying job. Must be nice.

Ohio State fired its OL coach 7 days ago…just sayin’
As you probably already know Studrawa is from Fostoria so maybe he's open to a little T-town stint.
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(01-13-2022 03:22 PM)wetsu Wrote:  
(01-13-2022 12:02 PM)inductchuck16 Wrote:  How does Hallet still have a job as Toledo’s offensive line coach? Candle really isn’t going to address this? Maybe he simply has no one better to replace him. Wouldn’t surprise me since he came straight from D3 and probably doesn’t have many connections. Crazy how someone can perform so poorly, yet keep their high paying job. Must be nice.

Ohio State fired its OL coach 7 days ago…just sayin’
As you probably already know Studrawa is from Fostoria so maybe he's open to a little T-town stint.
Not that I hold it against him, but he is a former BGSUCKS player and coach. Some will hold it against him. I have no problem with bring him in.
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(01-13-2022 03:41 PM)rocketpaul Wrote:  
(01-13-2022 03:22 PM)wetsu Wrote:  
(01-13-2022 12:02 PM)inductchuck16 Wrote:  How does Hallet still have a job as Toledo’s offensive line coach? Candle really isn’t going to address this? Maybe he simply has no one better to replace him. Wouldn’t surprise me since he came straight from D3 and probably doesn’t have many connections. Crazy how someone can perform so poorly, yet keep their high paying job. Must be nice.

Ohio State fired its OL coach 7 days ago…just sayin’
As you probably already know Studrawa is from Fostoria so maybe he's open to a little T-town stint.
Not that I hold it against him, but he is a former BGSUCKS player and coach. Some will hold it against him. I have no problem with bring him in.

If he can't put together a great OL with four and five star players, what's he going to do with MAC players. And yes, I hold it against him. Probably will end up at BG.
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RE: Will Candle make any coaching changes?
We had the nations 8th leading rusher, a top 20 running QB, and a top 40 offense... it might be hard to fire him based on those achievements vs. very poor competition.
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RE: Will Candle make any coaching changes?
If there was to be a change, it would have happened by now. I can not understand why it hasn't happened. Therefore our weakness this year (OL) will likely be our weakness next year! Same coach, no portal transfers, graduation losses of Harris, Doeger, Gurman. I actually think we could be weaker at the OL positions while our schedule will be tougher.

Our wins came from very weak competition (did we even beat someone with a winning record? oh yea Ball State). Our loses were due to not scoring enough points with the exception of EMU. The lack of offense in those games were mostly self inflicted penalties (illegal procedure, holding, linemen down field, etc..) and missed blocking assignments, etc ...

If it wasn't for our defense, i would be on suicide watch right now!
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(01-13-2022 04:19 PM)UofToledoFans Wrote:  We had the nations 8th leading rusher, a top 20 running QB, and a top 40 offense... it might be hard to fire him based on those achievements vs. very poor competition.

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(01-13-2022 05:07 PM)Boca Rocket Wrote:  
(01-13-2022 04:19 PM)UofToledoFans Wrote:  We had the nations 8th leading rusher, a top 20 running QB, and a top 40 offense... it might be hard to fire him based on those achievements vs. very poor competition.

Sacks Allowed #104
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4th Down Conversion#104
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That stat on fourth down conversions is beyond my thinking. How many times did he go for it on fourth and whatever on our side of the 50, but when we were in the opponents territory he would opt for a FG? Knowing our kicking FGs sucks???? Didn’t he kick in the bowl game when we were like a yard to go for a first down? I can’t understand his reasoning on fourth down
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(01-13-2022 07:53 PM)Babes boy Wrote:  
(01-13-2022 05:07 PM)Boca Rocket Wrote:  
(01-13-2022 04:19 PM)UofToledoFans Wrote:  We had the nations 8th leading rusher, a top 20 running QB, and a top 40 offense... it might be hard to fire him based on those achievements vs. very poor competition.

Sacks Allowed #104
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That stat on fourth down conversions is beyond my thinking. How many times did he go for it on fourth and whatever on our side of the 50, but when we were in the opponents territory he would opt for a FG? Knowing our kicking FGs sucks???? Didn’t he kick in the bowl game when we were like a yard to go for a first down? I can’t understand his reasoning on fourth down

Exactly.
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RE: Will Candle make any coaching changes?
I think it may be a tough season in 2022.

For current or new assistants, there’s a big difference between assistant coaches hitching themselves to a wagon (that may go somewhere) versus standing in deck of a sinking ship. I think some will make preemptive moves.

Also, if the university announced a timetable for the new AD hire, then that means they are farther along behind the scenes than it may look from the outside. The search firm can move quickly, and it’s been known for a year that O’Brien is leaving.
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