(12-14-2021 10:42 AM)etsubuc Wrote:  FCSNation host said on the morning monster that he knew “for a fact” that a NFL assistant with ETSU ties would be interested in the job and could stick around for 15+ years. Who would that be?

The only name that came to mind on this (and it's not on point) is Mike Smith, but he's 62 YOA and thus not a likely candidate to hang around that long.

(12-14-2021 10:55 AM)WingedWarrior Wrote:  I don't see this playing out; but, if Holmes doesn't get picked in the NFL, could he come back? I think I recall that, if a player declares for the draft, that's used to be the end of his college career, regardless of whether he was drafted or not. I think I also recall that the NCAA has relaxed that rule and lets players test the waters. Am I correct or not?

I'd say he gets a camp invite and tries that. Running backs have a short shelf life and another year of college ball doesn't make him better than he is right now.

(12-14-2021 10:55 AM)WingedWarrior Wrote:  I don't see this playing out; but, if Holmes doesn't get picked in the NFL, could he come back? I think I recall that, if a player declares for the draft, that's used to be the end of his college career, regardless of whether he was drafted or not. I think I also recall that the NCAA has relaxed that rule and lets players test the waters. Am I correct or not?

I believe that's correct, as long as he doesn't hire an agent. But I'm absolutely no expert on this.

I almost cried when I heard the news about Coach Sanders retiring. I've been sad all day.

I am hoping for a presser today naming Billy Taylor head coach. This would keep the program together without missing a beat. A winning, championship program does not need wholesale changes. Just keep it going and improving.

(12-15-2021 07:38 AM)bucfan81 Wrote:  I am hoping for a presser today naming Billy Taylor head coach. This would keep the program together without missing a beat. A winning, championship program does not need wholesale changes. Just keep it going and improving.

Although I would prefer an offensive minded person and someone with head coaching experience, hiring Taylor wouldn't be a bad hire for all the reasons you reference. Is it just me, or does he resemble Dan Mullen (I don't know if that's a good or bad thing)

My heart really wants it to be Billy Taylor. A guy who bleeds buc blue and was here at the end of the first version of football. He is an amazing coach. I will trust the leaders to make the right call but it would be a shame to see him gone from the University.

(12-15-2021 10:34 AM)ETSUfan1 Wrote:  My heart really wants it to be Billy Taylor. A guy who bleeds buc blue and was here at the end of the first version of football. He is an amazing coach. I will trust the leaders to make the right call but it would be a shame to see him gone from the University.

All he would need to do is hire one coach — a defensive coordinator, keep the rest of this championship crew, and move forward with little or no pause.

(12-15-2021 10:50 AM)Buc66 Wrote:  

(12-15-2021 10:34 AM)ETSUfan1 Wrote:  My heart really wants it to be Billy Taylor. A guy who bleeds buc blue and was here at the end of the first version of football. He is an amazing coach. I will trust the leaders to make the right call but it would be a shame to see him gone from the University.

All he would need to do is hire one coach — a defensive coordinator, keep the rest of this championship crew, and move forward with little or no pause.

Yes

(12-15-2021 10:34 AM)ETSUfan1 Wrote:  My heart really wants it to be Billy Taylor. A guy who bleeds buc blue and was here at the end of the first version of football. He is an amazing coach. I will trust the leaders to make the right call but it would be a shame to see him gone from the University.

These days a lot of fans and AD’s seem to ignore loyalty and roots. Having Coach Taylor, Rader, etc. on staff is so important due to the special situation our program is as a restart. We need people that have a history here to keep the foundation strong. I think it matters that Scott played here and it should matter that Coach Taylor did as well. That said, Noland always wants to hit a home run. Sanders turned out to be a home run. We’d be foolish not to try for a big splash but I think Coach Taylor has earned his opportunity.

(12-15-2021 10:58 AM)bucfan81 Wrote:  

(12-15-2021 10:50 AM)Buc66 Wrote:  

(12-15-2021 10:34 AM)ETSUfan1 Wrote:  My heart really wants it to be Billy Taylor. A guy who bleeds buc blue and was here at the end of the first version of football. He is an amazing coach. I will trust the leaders to make the right call but it would be a shame to see him gone from the University.

All he would need to do is hire one coach — a defensive coordinator, keep the rest of this championship crew, and move forward with little or no pause.

Yes

Wasn't Brown a DC at Kentucky for 5 years? Also Lewellyn has been around for long time, Just curious if they had anyone on staff who might be promoted up if Taylor does get the job.
IF he doesn't I wouldn't be surprised with near 100% turnover on coaching staff.

(12-15-2021 11:29 AM)MTBuc Wrote:  

(12-15-2021 10:34 AM)ETSUfan1 Wrote:  My heart really wants it to be Billy Taylor. A guy who bleeds buc blue and was here at the end of the first version of football. He is an amazing coach. I will trust the leaders to make the right call but it would be a shame to see him gone from the University.

These days a lot of fans and AD’s seem to ignore loyalty and roots. Having Coach Taylor, Rader, etc. on staff is so important due to the special situation our program is as a restart. We need people that have a history here to keep the foundation strong. I think it matters that Scott played here and it should matter that Coach Taylor did as well. That said, Noland always wants to hit a home run. Sanders turned out to be a home run. We’d be foolish not to try for a big splash but I think Coach Taylor has earned his opportunity.

Home run — absolutely, Nick Saban. Who would be that “home run” at present? Are there some real names of real people seeking this job? Anybody got any actual scoop from inside the administration? What’s going on at present with this “national search” that Carter mentioned?

(12-15-2021 11:54 AM)RodShaw2 Wrote:  

(12-15-2021 10:58 AM)bucfan81 Wrote:  

(12-15-2021 10:50 AM)Buc66 Wrote:  

(12-15-2021 10:34 AM)ETSUfan1 Wrote:  My heart really wants it to be Billy Taylor. A guy who bleeds buc blue and was here at the end of the first version of football. He is an amazing coach. I will trust the leaders to make the right call but it would be a shame to see him gone from the University.

All he would need to do is hire one coach — a defensive coordinator, keep the rest of this championship crew, and move forward with little or no pause.

Yes

Wasn't Brown a DC at Kentucky for 5 years? Also Lewellyn has been around for long time, Just curious if they had anyone on staff who might be promoted up if Taylor does get the job.
IF he doesn't I wouldn't be surprised with near 100% turnover on coaching staff.

Totally agree.Taylor is the man. When a team goes 11-1 you keep the coaching staff together. Only one new coach will have to be hired and all the money that would have been spent on new coaches can now be put into recruiting. Only when a team goes 1-11 does it warrant cleaning house.

(12-15-2021 02:30 PM)bucfan81 Wrote:  

(12-15-2021 11:54 AM)RodShaw2 Wrote:  

(12-15-2021 10:58 AM)bucfan81 Wrote:  

(12-15-2021 10:50 AM)Buc66 Wrote:  

(12-15-2021 10:34 AM)ETSUfan1 Wrote:  My heart really wants it to be Billy Taylor. A guy who bleeds buc blue and was here at the end of the first version of football. He is an amazing coach. I will trust the leaders to make the right call but it would be a shame to see him gone from the University.

All he would need to do is hire one coach — a defensive coordinator, keep the rest of this championship crew, and move forward with little or no pause.

Yes

Wasn't Brown a DC at Kentucky for 5 years? Also Lewellyn has been around for long time, Just curious if they had anyone on staff who might be promoted up if Taylor does get the job.
IF he doesn't I wouldn't be surprised with near 100% turnover on coaching staff.

Totally agree.Taylor is the man. When a team goes 11-1 you keep the coaching staff together. Only one new coach will have to be hired and all the money that would have been spent on new coaches can now be put into recruiting. Only when a team goes 1-11 does it warrant cleaning house.

This is basically what NDSU did with their current coach. Was defensive coordinator for 5 yrs, then promoted to head coach. And they obviously didn't muck things up going out of house.

ETSU has one of the top football coaching staffs in FCS.

The current staff did the recruiting and the 90% of the coaching. To run them off would tragic.

Sanders kept the staff nesrly ntact when he arrived, added some excellent coaches. Sanders on many occasions lauded Taylor and Rader and others for the job they were doing and the foundation they had built from scratch.

(12-15-2021 04:42 PM)Buc76 Wrote:  ETSU has one of the top football coaching staffs in FCS.

The current staff did the recruiting and the 90% of the coaching. To run them off would tragic.

Sanders kept the staff nesrly ntact when he arrived, added some excellent coaches. Sanders on many occasions lauded Taylor and Rader and others for the job they were doing and the foundation they had built from scratch.

What’s the hold up? Does the administration have to go through some sort of posting of the opening and accept applications for a time period in order to be in compliance with some sort of regulation somewhere? YES, name the coach from the current staff — with Billy Taylor at the top of that list.

(12-15-2021 05:36 PM)Buc66 Wrote:  

(12-15-2021 04:42 PM)Buc76 Wrote:  ETSU has one of the top football coaching staffs in FCS.

The current staff did the recruiting and the 90% of the coaching. To run them off would tragic.

Sanders kept the staff nesrly ntact when he arrived, added some excellent coaches. Sanders on many occasions lauded Taylor and Rader and others for the job they were doing and the foundation they had built from scratch.

What’s the hold up? Does the administration have to go through some sort of posting of the opening and accept applications for a time period in order to be in compliance with some sort of regulation somewhere? YES, name the coach from the current staff — with Billy Taylor at the top of that list.

I am assuming also that there must be legalities to go through before the announcement can be made. It is in our best interests to go ahead and make the hire.

I'm unsure why some of you coach-hiring experts think a new hire has to be made before a decent search is attempted.

Sanders announced his retirement Monday. 48 hours later, fans are demanding a particular person be hired, totally unknowing who else might be interested.

Chill.

(12-15-2021 10:24 PM)prosec34 Wrote:  I'm unsure why some of you coach-hiring experts think a new hire has to be made before a decent search is attempted.

Sanders announced his retirement Monday. 48 hours later, fans are demanding a particular person be hired, totally unknowing who else might be interested.

Chill.

This is a championship staff Sanders is leaving. Who the hell could come in and do a better job? A new man will dismiss these coaches and hire his own folks. Make Billy Taylor the head man with the understanding that this staff stays in place!! Don’t drag around and let these coaches start announcing they’re being hired elsewhere. If it don’t work out, then go find your new man.

(12-15-2021 10:24 PM)prosec34 Wrote:  I'm unsure why some of you coach-hiring experts think a new hire has to be made before a decent search is attempted.

Sanders announced his retirement Monday. 48 hours later, fans are demanding a particular person be hired, totally unknowing who else might be interested.

Chill.

Honest question. What are you looking for in a message board?