Right now our best shot at getting two bids is UAB going on a tear, winning the conference by an astounding like 17-1 record, and processing a top 20 net, then losing in the tournament.

Personally, I think the net has Marshall criminally under-ranked.

(12-09-2021 09:54 AM)rileylives Wrote:  Right now our best shot at getting two bids is UAB going on a tear, winning the conference by an astounding like 17-1 record, and processing a top 20 net, then losing in the tournament.

Personally, I think the net has Marshall criminally under-ranked.

Even with a gaudy record, I'm afraid there's too many boat anchors in conference play to achieve a top 20 NET. We only have one top 50 game left on the schedule when WVU comes to town next weekend.

(12-09-2021 09:49 AM)topper1296 Wrote:  

(12-09-2021 09:39 AM)NoogaRaider Wrote:  As a conference we have done well in OOC play so far. Only one team has a losing record (USM) and thats only by one.

If there was a year to get a multi bid-this is the one.

How funny would it be if CUSA finally gets 2 teams in that are leaving, then they make a decent run in March and then has to leave the tourney credits behind for the remaining members.

Not that it would be USM making a run but that thought has crossed my mind...either that or one team making a Sweet 16 run

La Tech still has a neutral game vs LSU that I bet we'll win. It'll be a Shreveport home crowd and our superbowl. If we win that, we'll be right in the thick of the at large convo's

(12-09-2021 09:49 AM)topper1296 Wrote:  

(12-09-2021 09:39 AM)NoogaRaider Wrote:  As a conference we have done well in OOC play so far. Only one team has a losing record (USM) and thats only by one.

If there was a year to get a multi bid-this is the one.

How funny would it be if CUSA finally gets 2 teams in that are leaving, then they make a decent run in March and then has to leave the tourney credits behind for the remaining members.

I'm all for it! Lord knows we're leaving a lot behind in the WAC...

It's still early, but here they are as of 12.11. My goal is to update this every Sunday.

https://stats.ncaa.org/selection_ranking...ties/22483

UAB 29
North Texas 89
Louisiana Tech 94
Middle Tenn. 99
Marshall 150
Western Ky. 159
FIU 172
Rice 189
Charlotte 203
Fla. Atlantic 211
Old Dominion 237
UTEP 238
UTSA 300
Southern Miss. 306
Average 177

G5 average comps based on future conference affiliations:
MWC 114
AAC 166 (drops to 183 if Wichita and Memphis is excluded)
CUSA 167
MAC 198
SBC 208

(12-12-2021 01:59 PM)topper1296 Wrote:  It's still early, but here they are as of 12.11.

https://stats.ncaa.org/selection_ranking...ties/22483

UAB 29
North Texas 89
Louisiana Tech 94
Middle Tenn. 99
Marshall 150
Western Ky. 159
FIU 172
Rice 189
Charlotte 203
Fla. Atlantic 211
Old Dominion 237
UTEP 238
UTSA 300
Southern Miss. 306
Average 177

G5 comps based on future conference affiliations:
MWC 114
AAC 166
CUSA 167
MAC 198
SBC 208

We really need Marshall or Western to get into the top 100 over these last few weeks before CUSA play starts and nobody to fall out. That would dramatically help with the inevitable cannibalism that is to come.

(12-12-2021 02:08 PM)Magic95Fan Wrote:  

(12-12-2021 01:59 PM)topper1296 Wrote:  It's still early, but here they are as of 12.11.

https://stats.ncaa.org/selection_ranking...ties/22483

UAB 29
North Texas 89
Louisiana Tech 94
Middle Tenn. 99
Marshall 150
Western Ky. 159
FIU 172
Rice 189
Charlotte 203
Fla. Atlantic 211
Old Dominion 237
UTEP 238
UTSA 300
Southern Miss. 306
Average 177

G5 comps based on future conference affiliations:
MWC 114
AAC 166
CUSA 167
MAC 198
SBC 208

We really need Marshall or Western to get into the top 100 over these last few weeks before CUSA play starts and nobody to fall out. That would dramatically help with the inevitable cannibalism that is to come.

I agree, but that Western ranking seems criminally low, I know we probably should settle around the 110 range if we win at Ohio and at Toledo.

(12-12-2021 02:14 PM)rileylives Wrote:  

(12-12-2021 02:08 PM)Magic95Fan Wrote:  

(12-12-2021 01:59 PM)topper1296 Wrote:  It's still early, but here they are as of 12.11.

https://stats.ncaa.org/selection_ranking...ties/22483

UAB 29
North Texas 89
Louisiana Tech 94
Middle Tenn. 99
Marshall 150
Western Ky. 159
FIU 172
Rice 189
Charlotte 203
Fla. Atlantic 211
Old Dominion 237
UTEP 238
UTSA 300
Southern Miss. 306
Average 177

G5 comps based on future conference affiliations:
MWC 114
AAC 166
CUSA 167
MAC 198
SBC 208

We really need Marshall or Western to get into the top 100 over these last few weeks before CUSA play starts and nobody to fall out. That would dramatically help with the inevitable cannibalism that is to come.

I agree, but that Western ranking seems criminally low, I know we probably should settle around the 110 range if we win at Ohio and at Toledo.

WKU looks like a top 100 team this year. Why is the NET showing them no respect?

(12-09-2021 12:03 PM)DawgsWin Wrote:  La Tech still has a neutral game vs LSU that I bet we'll win. It'll be a Shreveport home crowd and our superbowl. If we win that, we'll be right in the thick of the at large convo's

I don't know about that. I would love for that to happen, but this is the kind of game were missing Crawford is going to be huge. If Tech can keep it within 10 that would probably be about the best/most realistic outcome.

LSU is really good this year. You never know, maybe Tech can pull out the upset, I hope so. I plan on being there and hope it's a good crowd.

Any UAB fans that go to the Independence Bowl please swing by the Brookshire Grocery Arena in Bossier after the bowl game and help cheer for your conference mates!

Still early, but NET rankings thru 12.12. My goal is to update this every Sunday at least but I only have to work another 1 1/2 days until Jan 4, so I will probably be updating more often until then.

https://stats.ncaa.org/selection_ranking...ties/22483

Current CUSA
UAB 28
North Texas 86
Louisiana Tech 94
Middle Tenn. 98
Marshall 146
Western Ky. 158
UTEP 168
FIU 170
Rice 190
Charlotte 203
Fla. Atlantic 212
Old Dominion 237
UTSA 300
Southern Miss. 310
Average 171

Future CUSA
New Mexico St. 81
Louisiana Tech 94
Middle Tenn. 98
Liberty 149
Western Ky. 158
UTEP 168
FIU 170
Jacksonville St. 205
Sam Houston 297
Average 158

G5 average comps based on future conference affiliations:
MWC 117
CUSA 158
AAC 166
MAC 199
SBC 207

(12-09-2021 11:40 AM)hooverblazer Wrote:  when WVU comes to town next weekend.

Taz Sherman is their only legit scorer. You need to limit his action and make those around him in Sean McNeil, Jalen Bridges and Isaiah Cottrell try and beat you.

(12-12-2021 02:40 PM)deb025 Wrote:  

(12-09-2021 12:03 PM)DawgsWin Wrote:  La Tech still has a neutral game vs LSU that I bet we'll win. It'll be a Shreveport home crowd and our superbowl. If we win that, we'll be right in the thick of the at large convo's

I don't know about that. I would love for that to happen, but this is the kind of game were missing Crawford is going to be huge. If Tech can keep it within 10 that would probably be about the best/most realistic outcome.

LSU is really good this year. You never know, maybe Tech can pull out the upset, I hope so. I plan on being there and hope it's a good crowd.

Any UAB fans that go to the Independence Bowl please swing by the Brookshire Grocery Arena in Bossier after the bowl game and help cheer for your conference mates!

Yeah I don't think any UAB fan is ever going to cheer La Tech on.

I also don't think a win over LSU will get La Tech into an at large conversation. It would be a huge feather in the cap if they went something like 16-2 in conference, but that win alone likely won't be enough unless the CPU numbers drastically improve. Santa Clara is the only other win out of conference that could even be considered reasonable at this point.

(12-13-2021 12:15 PM)HerdZoned Wrote:  

(12-09-2021 11:40 AM)hooverblazer Wrote:  when WVU comes to town next weekend.

Taz Sherman is their only legit scorer. You need to limit his action and make those around him in Sean McNeil, Jalen Bridges and Isaiah Cottrell try and beat you.

We should have a couple guys on the defensive end who can cause some problems for him. I'm expecting a hard fought, low scoring matchup, I think these teams are very similar in a lot of ways.

(12-13-2021 12:33 PM)blazers9911 Wrote:  We should have a couple guys on the defensive end who can cause some problems for him. I'm expecting a hard fought, low scoring matchup, I think these teams are very similar in a lot of ways.

I can't stand Huggins, he is a pompous jerk going all the way back to his 1st HC job as Akron. But he is a master manipulator of the game. He beat UConn by playing UVA and ODU ball, first to 50 wins.

UNT falls 11 spots just for playing Sam Houston. Gotta get all obvious Quad 4 games off of the schedule. I know sometimes teams just don't turn out like you thought when you scheduled them, but SHSU was always going to be a Quad 4 game and we paid the price for scheduling it (and looking bad in the actual game).

(12-15-2021 08:49 AM)Magic95Fan Wrote:  UNT falls 11 spots just for playing Sam Houston. Gotta get all obvious Quad 4 games off of the schedule. I know sometimes teams just don't turn out like you thought when you scheduled them, but SHSU was always going to be a Quad 4 game and we paid the price for scheduling it (and looking bad in the actual game).

You didn’t fall because y’all played them, you fell because y’all failed to cover the spread.

Still early, but NET rankings thru 12.14. My goal is to update this two or three times a week.

https://stats.ncaa.org/selection_ranking...ties/22483

Current CUSA
UAB 34
Louisiana Tech 86
North Texas 97
Middle Tenn. 100
Marshall 146
Western Ky. 148
UTEP 168
FIU 169
Rice 193
Charlotte 204
Fla. Atlantic 208
Old Dominion 240
UTSA 298
Southern Miss. 318
Average 172
NET this early isn't real meaningful yet, but interesting that the bottom 7 are all leaving. Addition by subtraction for the new CUSA so far.

Future CUSA
New Mexico St. 84
Louisiana Tech 86
Middle Tenn. 100
Western Ky. 148
Liberty 156
UTEP 168
FIU 169
Jacksonville St. 206
Sam Houston 289
Average 156

G5 average comps based on future conference affiliations:
MWC 114
CUSA 156
AAC 164
SBC 198
MAC 199

Average NET variance between the current and future conference affiliations.
AAC drops <39> spots
CUSA rises 16 spots
SBC relatively flat raising 2 spots

(12-13-2021 12:33 PM)blazers9911 Wrote:  

(12-13-2021 12:15 PM)HerdZoned Wrote:  

(12-09-2021 11:40 AM)hooverblazer Wrote:  when WVU comes to town next weekend.

Taz Sherman is their only legit scorer. You need to limit his action and make those around him in Sean McNeil, Jalen Bridges and Isaiah Cottrell try and beat you.

We should have a couple guys on the defensive end who can cause some problems for him. I'm expecting a hard fought, low scoring matchup, I think these teams are very similar in a lot of ways.

It'll be worth arguing if we win, but let's agree to disagree.

No bad losses goes a long way, and to your 16-2 conference point, I don't think anyone in our conference can be an at-large type team without going 16-2 or 15-3 in conference.

Here are the rankings from the 4 most popular analytics ranking sites and the NET. Average of the 5 rankings are at the bottom. Could have 4-5 programs in the top 100. The 6 of the 7 worst average ranking programs are all leaving the conference.

Kenpom Rankings:
UAB - 45
La Tech - 82
WKU - 106
UNT - 108
Marsh - 114
UTEP - 159
Rice - 166
ODU - 190
FAU - 198
MTSU - 209
UNCC - 227
FIU - 245
UTSA - 273
USM - 286

Barttorvik Rankings:
UAB - 52
La Tech - 87
WKU - 125
UNT - 75
Marsh - 129
UTEP - 158
Rice - 179
ODU - 231
FAU - 185
MTSU - 178
UNCC - 168
FIU - 222
UTSA - 285
USM - 300

Haslametrics Rankings:
UAB - 32
La Tech - 70
WKU - 116
UNT - 104
Marsh - 114
UTEP - 164
Rice - 196
ODU - 232
FAU - 219
MTSU - 156
UNCC - 187
FIU - 231
UTSA - 284
USM - 324

Sagarin Rankings:
UAB - 43
La Tech - 89
WKU - 120
UNT - 105
Marsh - 121
UTEP - 158
Rice - 199
ODU - 192
FAU - 203
MTSU - 183
UNCC - 215
FIU - 208
UTSA - 262
USM - 309

Average Ranking of 4 analytical sites + NET:
UAB - 41
La Tech - 82
UNT - 97
WKU - 123
Marsh - 124
UTEP - 161
MTSU - 165
Rice - 186
UNCC - 200
FAU - 202
FIU - 215
ODU - 217
UTSA - 280
USM - 307