(12-05-2021 01:28 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  It is an impossible dream if the alleged deliverer of said dream wants it to still be 2 miles off campus. That still means buses for the students. Must be awful convenient that Mr. Ruiz has property already on the street of the proposed stadium. I'm sure there's no conflict of interest there. I'll give you this ... sounds extremely Miami. The only thing missing is Mr. Ruiz pitching it while sniffing a lot.

When Cincinnati approved its MLS stadium, one of the arguments against the city subsidizing it was that experts said that a stadium that's only in use 15-20 days a year doesn't really increase surrounding property values. It's just not used often enough to keep local bars & restaurants open, so it doesn't improve retail value. It can actually be a drag on residential value because there's tens of thousands of drunken idiots 10 days a year.

The experts that testified before the city said that a small grocery store would have a bigger impact on local property values.

In order for a stadium to increase property values, it has to host big events at least 30-40 times a year (like a baseball stadium, an NBA stadium, or a college basketball arena with multiple home teams).

(12-15-2021 12:20 PM)Captain Bearcat Wrote:  

(12-05-2021 01:28 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  It is an impossible dream if the alleged deliverer of said dream wants it to still be 2 miles off campus. That still means buses for the students. Must be awful convenient that Mr. Ruiz has property already on the street of the proposed stadium. I'm sure there's no conflict of interest there. I'll give you this ... sounds extremely Miami. The only thing missing is Mr. Ruiz pitching it while sniffing a lot.

When Cincinnati approved its MLS stadium, one of the arguments against the city subsidizing it was that experts said that a stadium that's only in use 15-20 days a year doesn't really increase surrounding property values. It's just not used often enough to keep local bars & restaurants open, so it doesn't improve retail value. It can actually be a drag on residential value because there's tens of thousands of drunken idiots 10 days a year.

The experts that testified before the city said that a small grocery store would have a bigger impact on local property values.

In order for a stadium to increase property values, it has to host big events at least 30-40 times a year (like a baseball stadium, an NBA stadium, or a college basketball arena with multiple home teams).

How many events do you get if it's used for both MLS and CFB? now add a few concerts, maybe...?

(12-15-2021 01:14 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  How many events do you get if it's used for both MLS and CFB? now add a few concerts, soccer friendlies, high school contests maybe...? (FIFY)

https://twitter.com/247_canes/status/147...1115196418

as I see it ...
the nagging issue revolves around land-use approval pursuant to local authority ...
fully paid for w/o public subsidy ...
retractable roof ...
possibly near water ...

EYE ON THE PRIZE

(12-15-2021 01:14 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  

(12-15-2021 12:20 PM)Captain Bearcat Wrote:  

(12-05-2021 01:28 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  It is an impossible dream if the alleged deliverer of said dream wants it to still be 2 miles off campus. That still means buses for the students. Must be awful convenient that Mr. Ruiz has property already on the street of the proposed stadium. I'm sure there's no conflict of interest there. I'll give you this ... sounds extremely Miami. The only thing missing is Mr. Ruiz pitching it while sniffing a lot.

When Cincinnati approved its MLS stadium, one of the arguments against the city subsidizing it was that experts said that a stadium that's only in use 15-20 days a year doesn't really increase surrounding property values. It's just not used often enough to keep local bars & restaurants open, so it doesn't improve retail value. It can actually be a drag on residential value because there's tens of thousands of drunken idiots 10 days a year.

The experts that testified before the city said that a small grocery store would have a bigger impact on local property values.

In order for a stadium to increase property values, it has to host big events at least 30-40 times a year (like a baseball stadium, an NBA stadium, or a college basketball arena with multiple home teams).

How many events do you get if it's used for both MLS and CFB? now add a few concerts, maybe...?

Add Monster Truck, political rallies and religious events...that should add another 5-10 nights.

https://twitter.com/CaneSport/status/147...6882817027

SPEAKING LANGUAGE OF THE GODS

(12-06-2021 10:22 AM)bluesox Wrote:  Maybe the donor should team up with MLS Miami soccer team and build a new downtown stadium to share with the U since the folks around th campus will block a stadium being built.

PS I like the magic city tv series on amazon

https://twitter.com/kaufsports/status/14...3295895553

THAT SHIP HAS SAILED

https://twitter.com/alex7ruiz/status/147...2537407491

SO GLAD YOU EXIST

https://twitter.com/JohnHRuiz/status/148...6622252040

SPREAD YOURSELF TOO THIN

(12-11-2021 08:08 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  Hawaii Rule also applies to games played in Puerto Rico.
Build the stadium there, get 13 games every season.

https://twitter.com/alex7ruiz/status/148...6227665923





CAN’T GO WRONG

(01-12-2022 10:08 AM)green Wrote:  

(12-11-2021 08:08 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  Hawaii Rule also applies to games played in Puerto Rico.
Build the stadium there, get 13 games every season.

https://twitter.com/alex7ruiz/status/148...6227665923





CAN’T GO WRONG

Is bayfront realistic

(01-13-2022 11:19 PM)Bluedevil16 Wrote:  Is bayfront realistic

Miami heat manage ...

SOMEHOW

How would he build a stadium over a park? Surely that’s not realistic.

Green, can you give us a rundown of the potential locations and where they are in relation to campus? I’m having a hard time following all this. Also, how close was the Orange Bowl to campus, why was it so successful, and how close is Joe Robbie?

(01-14-2022 10:03 AM)esayem Wrote:  How would he build a stadium over a park? Surely that’s not realistic.

Green, can you give us a rundown of the potential locations and where they are in relation to campus? I’m having a hard time following all this. Also, how close was the Orange Bowl to campus (7mls), why was it so successful, and how close is Joe Robbie (21mls)?

https://twitter.com/fjd1313/status/1469496825052815365

Inter Miami to build sprawling soccer complex on municipal golf course ...
money talks ...

BULLSH*T WALKS

This "on campus" stadium keeps moving further and further off campus.

(01-14-2022 10:03 AM)esayem Wrote:  How would he build a stadium over a park? Surely that’s not realistic.

Green, can you give us a rundown of the potential locations and where they are in relation to campus? I’m having a hard time following all this. Also, how close was the Orange Bowl to campus, why was it so successful, and how close is Joe Robbie?

Tropical Park is not a park in the sense that most of us would consider a park. Think of a former horse racing track. In fact Tropical Park is most like the Fairgrounds in Raleigh next to Carter Finley Stadium.

It appears to be just holding the world together.

The City, working with the developer could easily insert a state of the art stadium and parking facilities that have a dual function as hurricane shelters and post hurricane distribution center. You can then build a really nice park on say 40 acres of so combining the best of Sarah Duke and J. C. Raulston arboretum mash up of presentational and scientific gardens managed in conjunction with a program at the U.

Green, I'd love to help out but I can't get along with loud mouthed construction/developer Yankees and I am too old now to actually win a fist fight or even battle to a draw.

FIU might like to play there as well.

(01-14-2022 11:57 AM)Statefan Wrote:  

(01-14-2022 10:03 AM)esayem Wrote:  How would he build a stadium over a park? Surely that’s not realistic.

Green, can you give us a rundown of the potential locations and where they are in relation to campus? I’m having a hard time following all this. Also, how close was the Orange Bowl to campus, why was it so successful, and how close is Joe Robbie?

Tropical Park is not a park in the sense that most of us would consider a park. Think of a former horse racing track. In fact Tropical Park is most like the Fairgrounds in Raleigh next to Carter Finley Stadium.

It appears to be just holding the world together.

The City county, working with the developer could easily insert a state of the art stadium and parking facilities that have a dual function as hurricane shelters and post hurricane distribution center. You can then build a really nice park on say 40 acres of so combining the best of Sarah Duke and J. C. Raulston arboretum mash up of presentational and scientific gardens managed in conjunction with a program at the U.

Green, I'd love to help out but I can't get along with loud mouthed construction/developer Yankees and I am too old now to actually win a fist fight or even battle to a draw.

FIU might like to play there as well.

there’s talk of a county hospital (Jackson Memorial/UM) along with a practice course for formula 1 racing ...

GO BABY GO

So Bayfront is much further then I take it?

(01-14-2022 10:03 AM)esayem Wrote:  How would he build a stadium over a park? Surely that’s not realistic.

Green, can you give us a rundown of the potential locations and where they are in relation to campus? I’m having a hard time following all this. Also, how close was the Orange Bowl to campus, why was it so successful, and how close is Joe Robbie?

https://twitter.com/JohnHRuiz/status/148...2136324096

RUN THE GAMUT

(01-14-2022 12:50 PM)esayem Wrote:  So Bayfront is much further then I take it?

Bayfront is downtown Miami. Farther away but nice and downtown where some undergrads and a lot of alums live. But Beckham & team tried to build around there and were shutdown pretty quickly so I’d be surprised if anything changes.

(01-16-2022 02:57 PM)Bluedevil16 Wrote:  

(01-14-2022 12:50 PM)esayem Wrote:  So Bayfront is much further then I take it?

Bayfront is downtown Miami. Farther away but nice and downtown where some undergrads and a lot of alums live. But Beckham & team tried to build around there and were shutdown pretty quickly so I’d be surprised if anything changes.

https://twitter.com/alex7ruiz/status/148...3812519937

GIVE THIS MAN A COOKIE