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RE: Liberty threads
(11-23-2021 01:24 PM)All4One Wrote:  
(11-23-2021 12:35 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  
(11-23-2021 11:48 AM)All4One Wrote:  
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(11-23-2021 09:34 AM)All4One Wrote:  Trump wasn't a political elitist. That's why normal people liked him so much. It wasn't his religious values. He wasn't a socialist like Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez or a totalitarian like Joe Biden. He wasn't a career politician like Maxine Waters or Nancy Pelosi. He loved America. And I can define socialism and communism just fine, thank you. And if it bothers you that the anarchist, pro-Communist organization Antifa shares your politics, then maybe you should do some soul-searching. When 1500 homes and businesses burned in 2020 all across the country, that wasn't the work of Trump supporters. Look in the mirror.

Rounding out my Christmas card list. Can you send me the address for the Antifa organization headquarters? Thanks. I try to show my appreciation for all anti-fascists.

Thank you, Brandon!

I can send you the address to many of their operatives if you would like. There are a few with actual physical addresses. You don't have to have a national headquarters or even a physical address to be considered an organization. All you have to have is a presence and charter. In fact, many of Antifa's terrorist cells have their own communications methods and leadership structures.

03-lmfao

https://rosecityantifa.org/

You understand Antifa as well as you do EO counts...
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(11-23-2021 01:32 PM)All4One Wrote:  
(11-23-2021 01:29 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  
(11-23-2021 01:24 PM)All4One Wrote:  
(11-23-2021 12:35 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  
(11-23-2021 11:48 AM)All4One Wrote:  I can send you the address to many of their operatives if you would like. There are a few with actual physical addresses. You don't have to have a national headquarters or even a physical address to be considered an organization. All you have to have is a presence and charter. In fact, many of Antifa's terrorist cells have their own communications methods and leadership structures.

03-lmfao

https://rosecityantifa.org/

You understand Antifa as well as you do EO counts...

I invite you to learn more about the Torch Network.

I invite you to admit that you can't define socialism or communism and that you just confidently spout bull**** like "Joe Biden has signed more executive orders than any president in history".

I'd also invite you to admit that if EO are a metric by which you measure presidents or totalitarianism, that Donald Trump isn't perhaps as great as you think he was considering he signed the most in nearly four decades.

But you'll just sidestep all of this won't you?
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RE: Liberty threads
(11-23-2021 02:18 PM)All4One Wrote:  
(11-23-2021 01:54 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  
(11-23-2021 01:32 PM)All4One Wrote:  
(11-23-2021 01:29 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  
(11-23-2021 01:24 PM)All4One Wrote:  https://rosecityantifa.org/

You understand Antifa as well as you do EO counts...

I invite you to learn more about the Torch Network.

I invite you to admit that you can't define socialism or communism and that you just confidently spout bull**** like "Joe Biden has signed more executive orders than any president in history".

I'd also invite you to admit that if EO are a metric by which you measure presidents or totalitarianism, that Donald Trump isn't perhaps as great as you think he was considering he signed the most in nearly four decades.

But you'll just sidestep all of this won't you?

And until you know what it's like to lose a small business to Antifa and Black Lives Matter terrorist scum, then maybe you should just shut the f*** up too.

And there's the sidestep...

You are predictably full of ****
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RE: Liberty threads
(11-23-2021 02:26 PM)All4One Wrote:  
(11-23-2021 02:25 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  
(11-23-2021 02:18 PM)All4One Wrote:  
(11-23-2021 01:54 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  
(11-23-2021 01:32 PM)All4One Wrote:  I invite you to learn more about the Torch Network.

I invite you to admit that you can't define socialism or communism and that you just confidently spout bull**** like "Joe Biden has signed more executive orders than any president in history".

I'd also invite you to admit that if EO are a metric by which you measure presidents or totalitarianism, that Donald Trump isn't perhaps as great as you think he was considering he signed the most in nearly four decades.

But you'll just sidestep all of this won't you?

And until you know what it's like to lose a small business to Antifa and Black Lives Matter terrorist scum, then maybe you should just shut the f*** up too.

And there's the sidestep...

You are predictably full of ****

And you are predictably a worthless piece of s*** and sorry excuse of a moderator.

Baseless insults, another hallmark of Trump's "presidency".

You don't know me and none of this has anything to do with me as a moderator, but I promise you I take your appraisal of me as a person and my job as a moderator as seriously as Trump takes a healthy diet...
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(11-23-2021 02:32 PM)All4One Wrote:  How is it that a religious bigot is able to be a moderator on this website?

Do what?
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RE: Liberty threads
(11-23-2021 03:49 PM)All4One Wrote:  
(11-23-2021 02:25 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  
(11-23-2021 02:18 PM)All4One Wrote:  
(11-23-2021 01:54 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  
(11-23-2021 01:32 PM)All4One Wrote:  I invite you to learn more about the Torch Network.

I invite you to admit that you can't define socialism or communism and that you just confidently spout bull**** like "Joe Biden has signed more executive orders than any president in history".

I'd also invite you to admit that if EO are a metric by which you measure presidents or totalitarianism, that Donald Trump isn't perhaps as great as you think he was considering he signed the most in nearly four decades.

But you'll just sidestep all of this won't you?

And until you know what it's like to lose a small business to Antifa and Black Lives Matter terrorist scum, then maybe you should just shut the f*** up too.

And there's the sidestep...

You are predictably full of ****

Where does the money come from to pay for your universal healthcare and free education for all? Who pays for that? Who pays for the cost of federally mandated $15-20 minimum wages? What do you think is going to happen to healthcare workers, administrative workers, and various entry level tech workers whose jobs start at $15-16 per hour and requires a high school education or x amount of experience in a related field? You think they are going to see a wage increase just because someone else flipping a burger is making the same as them now because a presidential executive order said so?

Equal pay for all sounds like a communist viewpoint to me. While the Democrat Party may not follow all the tenets of communism, there are a few there that many Democrats do support such as larger government control over industry, less liberty and more authoritarian control (ie. the 2020 riots and the innocent people who lost their homes and businesses, cancel culture via news and social media).

Honestly, though, if you looked over the 7 Principles of Totalitarianism, you would see a mirror image of the American Democrat Party.

Cancel Culture (the social and psychological attempt to bring all people of the nation under subjugation of the single-party government)

Almost total control of all media (over 96% according to a study by Texas A&M and Arizona State University leans left)

The perception that the authoritarian leader is superhuman

The attempt to have a single-party government, which Democrats in Congress tried to do using the January 6th riot at The Capitol to justify in expelling nearly every single conservative Republican in Congress

Conformity of all citizens and seeking to subordinate all citizens to control of the government's demands (mask mandates, vaccination requirements)

"How do we pay for it" never comes up regarding our ridiculously out of control defense spending,where we outspend something like the next ten countries(most of whom are allies) combined, it also didn't matter for Trump's tax cuts for the wealthy(he only added nearly $8 trillion to the national debt) but I digress, there are three dozen some odd developed countries, we are allegedly greater and richer than all of them and yet we stand alone without Universal Healthcare and there are many studies that would suggest we will save money on universal healthcare, far too much money goes to useless middlemen in the private healthcare industry.

And whoever said anything about "equal pay for all"? Just because fast food workers are underpaid, it doesn't mean that people like paramedics aren't also underpaid. If minimum wage, which contrary to popular conservative rhetoric is meant to provide basic needs like food and shelter(something even $15/hr doesn't really cover in large parts of this country) had kept up with inflation over time it would be something like $22/hr.

I can't help but laugh, I mean really truly laugh my ass off, at the superhuman leader comment, no American president has been the subject of more hero worship and God like adoration than DJT.
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RE: Liberty threads
(11-23-2021 05:25 PM)All4One Wrote:  
(11-23-2021 04:20 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  
(11-23-2021 03:49 PM)All4One Wrote:  
(11-23-2021 02:25 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  
(11-23-2021 02:18 PM)All4One Wrote:  And until you know what it's like to lose a small business to Antifa and Black Lives Matter terrorist scum, then maybe you should just shut the f*** up too.

And there's the sidestep...

You are predictably full of ****

Where does the money come from to pay for your universal healthcare and free education for all? Who pays for that? Who pays for the cost of federally mandated $15-20 minimum wages? What do you think is going to happen to healthcare workers, administrative workers, and various entry level tech workers whose jobs start at $15-16 per hour and requires a high school education or x amount of experience in a related field? You think they are going to see a wage increase just because someone else flipping a burger is making the same as them now because a presidential executive order said so?

Equal pay for all sounds like a communist viewpoint to me. While the Democrat Party may not follow all the tenets of communism, there are a few there that many Democrats do support such as larger government control over industry, less liberty and more authoritarian control (ie. the 2020 riots and the innocent people who lost their homes and businesses, cancel culture via news and social media).

Honestly, though, if you looked over the 7 Principles of Totalitarianism, you would see a mirror image of the American Democrat Party.

Cancel Culture (the social and psychological attempt to bring all people of the nation under subjugation of the single-party government)

Almost total control of all media (over 96% according to a study by Texas A&M and Arizona State University leans left)

The perception that the authoritarian leader is superhuman

The attempt to have a single-party government, which Democrats in Congress tried to do using the January 6th riot at The Capitol to justify in expelling nearly every single conservative Republican in Congress

Conformity of all citizens and seeking to subordinate all citizens to control of the government's demands (mask mandates, vaccination requirements)

"How do we pay for it" never comes up regarding our ridiculously out of control defense spending,where we outspend something like the next ten countries(most of whom are allies) combined, it also didn't matter for Trump's tax cuts for the wealthy(he only added nearly $8 trillion to the national debt) but I digress, there are three dozen some odd developed countries, we are allegedly greater and richer than all of them and yet we stand alone without Universal Healthcare and there are many studies that would suggest we will save money on universal healthcare, far too much money goes to useless middlemen in the private healthcare industry.

And whoever said anything about "equal pay for all"? Just because fast food workers are underpaid, it doesn't mean that people like paramedics aren't also underpaid. If minimum wage, which contrary to popular conservative rhetoric is meant to provide basic needs like food and shelter(something even $15/hr doesn't really cover in large parts of this country) had kept up with inflation over time it would be something like $22/hr.

I can't help but laugh, I mean really truly laugh my ass off, at the superhuman leader comment, no American president has been the subject of more hero worship and God like adoration than DJT.

So you think the Top 1% are going to be okay with being butt raped in taxes to pay for Universal Healthcare, free education for all, and all the other stuff for 350,000,000 citizens?

At $1,000 per U.S. citizen for healthcare or education that's $350 Billion a year, which wouldn't be enough because this doesn't include cancer patients and those that require long-term care, who are spending way more than most nor does this include non-citizens and asylees. How much do you think the Top 1% contributes in taxes?

We aren't a small populated country like Netherlands or Australia. It's a tad more challenging without spending and governing like China.

As far as Defense Spending, well let's not pretend there are actual people, who want to destroy America and kill as many U.S. citizens as possible. Let's also not forget that the $2 Billion in damages to the 1500 homes and businesses burned to the ground by leftist radicals in 2020 didn't really help either since Defense Spending was used for the domestic terrorism that occurred all during that year here in American cities that were burning because some liberals wanted to b**** and cry about Mr. Porn Star on Fentanyl, George Floyd, so they decided to take it out on innocent people by stealing their way of life.

You're garbage.
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RE: Liberty threads
(11-23-2021 07:31 PM)All4One Wrote:  
(11-23-2021 05:44 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  
(11-23-2021 05:25 PM)All4One Wrote:  
(11-23-2021 04:20 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  
(11-23-2021 03:49 PM)All4One Wrote:  Where does the money come from to pay for your universal healthcare and free education for all? Who pays for that? Who pays for the cost of federally mandated $15-20 minimum wages? What do you think is going to happen to healthcare workers, administrative workers, and various entry level tech workers whose jobs start at $15-16 per hour and requires a high school education or x amount of experience in a related field? You think they are going to see a wage increase just because someone else flipping a burger is making the same as them now because a presidential executive order said so?

Equal pay for all sounds like a communist viewpoint to me. While the Democrat Party may not follow all the tenets of communism, there are a few there that many Democrats do support such as larger government control over industry, less liberty and more authoritarian control (ie. the 2020 riots and the innocent people who lost their homes and businesses, cancel culture via news and social media).

Honestly, though, if you looked over the 7 Principles of Totalitarianism, you would see a mirror image of the American Democrat Party.

Cancel Culture (the social and psychological attempt to bring all people of the nation under subjugation of the single-party government)

Almost total control of all media (over 96% according to a study by Texas A&M and Arizona State University leans left)

The perception that the authoritarian leader is superhuman

The attempt to have a single-party government, which Democrats in Congress tried to do using the January 6th riot at The Capitol to justify in expelling nearly every single conservative Republican in Congress

Conformity of all citizens and seeking to subordinate all citizens to control of the government's demands (mask mandates, vaccination requirements)

"How do we pay for it" never comes up regarding our ridiculously out of control defense spending,where we outspend something like the next ten countries(most of whom are allies) combined, it also didn't matter for Trump's tax cuts for the wealthy(he only added nearly $8 trillion to the national debt) but I digress, there are three dozen some odd developed countries, we are allegedly greater and richer than all of them and yet we stand alone without Universal Healthcare and there are many studies that would suggest we will save money on universal healthcare, far too much money goes to useless middlemen in the private healthcare industry.

And whoever said anything about "equal pay for all"? Just because fast food workers are underpaid, it doesn't mean that people like paramedics aren't also underpaid. If minimum wage, which contrary to popular conservative rhetoric is meant to provide basic needs like food and shelter(something even $15/hr doesn't really cover in large parts of this country) had kept up with inflation over time it would be something like $22/hr.

I can't help but laugh, I mean really truly laugh my ass off, at the superhuman leader comment, no American president has been the subject of more hero worship and God like adoration than DJT.

So you think the Top 1% are going to be okay with being butt raped in taxes to pay for Universal Healthcare, free education for all, and all the other stuff for 350,000,000 citizens?

At $1,000 per U.S. citizen for healthcare or education that's $350 Billion a year, which wouldn't be enough because this doesn't include cancer patients and those that require long-term care, who are spending way more than most nor does this include non-citizens and asylees. How much do you think the Top 1% contributes in taxes?

We aren't a small populated country like Netherlands or Australia. It's a tad more challenging without spending and governing like China.

As far as Defense Spending, well let's not pretend there are actual people, who want to destroy America and kill as many U.S. citizens as possible. Let's also not forget that the $2 Billion in damages to the 1500 homes and businesses burned to the ground by leftist radicals in 2020 didn't really help either since Defense Spending was used for the domestic terrorism that occurred all during that year here in American cities that were burning because some liberals wanted to b**** and cry about Mr. Porn Star on Fentanyl, George Floyd, so they decided to take it out on innocent people by stealing their way of life.

You're garbage.

Is that all you got, Z? That's all you can say?

I understand.

You know arson and attempted murder and assault are not forms of free expression and free speech. What your anarchists political allies did all across the country in 2020 was a criminal act. There is nothing that could've possibly happened to validate ever hurting the innocent home owners, business owners, and workers that lost so much when Democrat voters with Antifa and Black Lives Matter burned down their homes and businesses in 2020.

I don't know who "Z" is, but no, that's not all I can say, I just think you've shown yourself to be a legitimate garbage person and nothing more needs to be said.
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(11-24-2021 01:05 AM)All4One Wrote:  And THAT, dear friends of Liberty, is how you put a pompous left-wing radical in his place.

03-lmfao

You absolute bozo. You're just not worth it, I genuinely think you are a bad person and it has little to do with your Antifa ramblings, that just makes you a Fox News parrot

The way you speak about a man that was literally murdered by a police officer while multiple fellow police officers watched on makes you a garbage person.

Also, to suggest that literal billionaires would be "butt raped" in paying their fair share is a bad look as well.

Every billionaire is a policy failure, and you genuinely suck as a human being.

Just don't pat yourself on the back so hard you fall on your face when I don't respond next time you congratulate yourself for "putting me in my place" you sad small man.
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(11-24-2021 08:25 AM)All4One Wrote:  
Nobody deep throats the liberal establishment on this forum as much as you do. You are genuinely a horrible person and it has nothing to do with your DJT and anti-Christian ramblings. That just makes you a CNN parrot.

Please feel free to provide examples of me "deep throating the liberal establishment". No really, if "nobody on this forum" does it like me, you should have countless examples. I rarely talk politics on this forum. I'm fairly distrustful of the DNC establishment they're just better than the only viable alternative. And I don't need anyone, in the media or otherwise, to tell me that DJT is one of the worst human beings elected to public office in the history of this country(which is truly saying something), or that he is not a genuine Christian, nor is he a genuine patriot or conservative. How he fooled so many into believing he was one of them or cared about their Bible or their values, I will never understand.

I'm also not "anti-Christian", some of my favorite people are Christians. I am however anti religious political activism, no book of faith has any place legislating the rights of the American people. I don't care who you pray to or how you do it, but it doesn't belong in our government.


(11-24-2021 08:25 AM)All4One Wrote:  
The way you speak to the defense of domestic terrorists that burned down 1500 homes and businesses in 2020 just because they are all voting Democrats makes you a garbage person.


Once again, provide examples of me speaking to the defense of Antifa. You're off your rocker when you speak about them, but I'm not sure what you mean by "the way speak to defend" them. I wonder though, do you defend the domestic terrorists from January 6th? Or the Unite the Right rally?

(11-24-2021 08:25 AM)All4One Wrote:  
Also to suggest that your self-entitled arrogant liberals don't have to take responsibility to pay for their own education, their own Healthcare, and their own lives is a bad look, as well.


This is where you're especially, laughably, clownishly wrong. What you suggest is "self entitled arrogance" is literally found in every single other developed nation on the planet and again, we're allegedly greater than all of them and we're indisputably dramatically richer than most of them.

You've simply been politicized to believe we can't afford those policies(in the richest and "greatest" country on earth). And it's not about "not taking responsibility for our own education and healthcare", it's about better utilizing our taxes to better fund education and fix our unbelievably broken healthcare system where people die rationing important medicine, decline cancer treatment to not ruin their family financially or suffer needlessly delaying doctors they can't afford. You understand that not just liberals will benefit, right? The NHS and the Canadian system, which M4A proposals most closely resemble are far more highly rated by the citizens of Canada and the UK than how we rate our own system. Canadians voted the man who introduced socialized medicine as "the greatest Canadian". And when we put a man on the moon, built the interstate highway system, and families could realistically expect to function easily on a single income and higher education costed a fraction of what it does today, we had a marginal tax rate of 70%.

(11-24-2021 08:25 AM)All4One Wrote:  
Every radical liberal is a policy failure, and you genuinely suck as a human being.

Just don't pat yourself on the back so hard that it gets you aroused thinking about the next innocent person's business that got burned down by a Democrat, you sad small man.

This is where you just take a turn for the pathetic. One, no "radical liberals" aren't policy failures, they're just people you disagree with, I don't believe dipshit, bootlicking MAGA chuds like yourself were created by failed policy, the unbelievable wealth hoarding in this country absolutely was allowed by failed policy.

Also, I am not a democrat, certainly not an establishment one anyhow, nor are the people you spend so much time talking about destroying property, unless you truly believe everyone in this country is either a republican or a democrat, which considering how deluded you'd have to be to believe DJT is actually a republican... I guess maybe you do.

But good job with all your "I know you are but what am I?" zingers, your intellectual peers in middle schools nationwide would be proud.
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(11-24-2021 11:13 AM)All4One Wrote:  Atheistic and agnostic beliefs should not be used to create laws either.

And you defend Antifa by refusing to acknowledge that they are wrong.

You're also wrong about every other country in the world being socialist countries.

1. We (mostly)have separation of church and state for a reason, agnostic or atheistic beliefs do not impede on your rights in any way.

2. In general, rioting/looting is wrong, 99% of the protests that took place in 2020 were peaceful, non violent, non destructive. Antifa is barely an organization, I do strongly support anti fascism though and I'd hope you do too. By your logic, you're defending the insurrectionists, the Proud Bois, etc.

3. Where did I say "every country on earth is socialist"(hint: I didn't say that). Because what I actually said is true. I challenge you to reread what I said and tell me again that I'm wrong with example nations.
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(11-24-2021 11:13 AM)All4One Wrote:  Atheistic and agnostic beliefs should not be used to create laws either.

And you defend Antifa by refusing to acknowledge that they are wrong.

You're also wrong about every other country in the world being socialist countries.

Read this. Slowly.
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(11-24-2021 12:26 PM)ragin4u Wrote:  
(11-24-2021 11:13 AM)All4One Wrote:  Atheistic and agnostic beliefs should not be used to create laws either.

And you defend Antifa by refusing to acknowledge that they are wrong.

You're also wrong about every other country in the world being socialist countries.

Read this. Slowly.

You think we found Michael Flynn?
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(11-24-2021 02:23 PM)All4One Wrote:  
(11-24-2021 11:42 AM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  
(11-24-2021 11:13 AM)All4One Wrote:  Atheistic and agnostic beliefs should not be used to create laws either.

And you defend Antifa by refusing to acknowledge that they are wrong.

You're also wrong about every other country in the world being socialist countries.

1. We (mostly)have separation of church and state for a reason, agnostic or atheistic beliefs do not impede on your rights in any way.

2. In general, rioting/looting is wrong, 99% of the protests that took place in 2020 were peaceful, non violent, non destructive. Antifa is barely an organization, I do strongly support anti fascism though and I'd hope you do too. By your logic, you're defending the insurrectionists, the Proud Bois, etc.

3. Where did I say "every country on earth is socialist"(hint: I didn't say that). Because what I actually said is true. I challenge you to reread what I said and tell me again that I'm wrong with example nations.

Agnosticism and atheism are belief systems. If they don't impede me, then Christianity doesn't impede you.

99% of protests were peaceful? The owners and/or employees of 1500 homes and businesses burned down by radical left members of Antifa and Black Lives Matter would tell you otherwise. Entire city blocks were burned in Minneapolis. $2 Billion in damages just so people could b**** and cry about a criminal being killed by a police officer--a criminal who conveniently just so happened to be black. CNN and MSNBC wouldn't have given two sh**s about George Floyd had he been a white guy, and you know it. You just don't want to acknowledge it.

Also, there was no insurrection in this country, and it takes a total liberal flake to try to play off the January 6th riot at The Capitol as such. It is an insult to people who stood against military tanks, soldiers, jets, etc that are synonymous with REAL insurrection like occurred in Myanmar and Sudan. Antifa is to America what the Taliban is to Afghanistan. They are a threat, but 96% of all media broadcasts information with a left-wing slant, so obviously the media won't paint Antifa as the terrorist network that they really are.

Yes, if you use your bible to try to legislate the rights of others, that is your religion impeding on the rights of others. Secular laws not based on religious texts, do not impede on your religion or your rights. I'll even give you that laws shouldn't be written based on atheism as we are a mostly theist country, but Agnosticism or perhaps Omnism is absolutely how are laws should be written in that case.

And no, Antifa is not the taliban, that's just silliness, ridiculous hyperbole at best. There absolutely was an insurrection in this country, they were literally chanting "hang Mike Pence".

But just like you sidestepped defining communism and socialism and articulating the difference between the two, and just like you never acknowledged how completely incorrect you were about Biden's executive orders, you are now also sidestepping what I said about where you can find things like universal healthcare and guaranteed paid parental leave around the world. Are you still sure that I'm wrong? Or are we just not going to talk about that either. This more than anything is why you can't be taken seriously. You're really bad at this.
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(11-24-2021 03:08 PM)All4One Wrote:  I'm done trying to reason with a liberal pig like you, Reed.

It would help if you understood reason to begin with. But you just keep sidestepping, you were so sure I was wrong, but then you were sure that Joe Biden had signed the most EO in history too...

Did you connect my BBS and go middle handles all by yourself, or did someone help you?

Am I supposed to feel threatened? 07-coffee3
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(11-24-2021 03:28 PM)All4One Wrote:  
(11-24-2021 03:14 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  
(11-24-2021 03:08 PM)All4One Wrote:  I'm done trying to reason with a liberal pig like you, Reed.

It would help if you understood reason to begin with. But you just keep sidestepping, you were so sure I was wrong, but then yiu were sure that Joe Biden had signed the most EO in history too...

Did you connect my BBS and go middle handles all by yourself, or did someone help you?

Am I supposed to feel threatened? 07-coffee3

Biden isn't there yet, but give him time if he hasn't died in office yet. He does have the most per year average since Truman.

https://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/statisti...ive-orders

I'm not going to define socialism and communism In your purely distorted views, but there are good sources.

https://pin.it/7t3s1hb

03-lmfao

I already spoke at length about his EO, you aren't telling me anything I didn't know, or didn't already address...

(11-23-2021 12:34 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  But I'd love to know where you pulled that "more executive orders than any other president in American history" because that just isn't true. He's currently on pace to pass Trump's total(who had the most in a single term since Carter, Trump also reached 80% of Obama's two term total in his single term) but Biden could increase his pace by 30% and he still wouldn't catch Truman's total for either term, he'd have to increase his pace by 70% to approach Teddy Roosevelt and neither of those two are in the top three for cumulative total or most in a single term. Biden could triple his pace and he'd still be a distant second to FDR in EOs per year. FDR averaged 307 a year for 12 years, Biden's current pace not quite through his first year is projected at 86(Trump's was 55).

You just follow Trump's lead of saying things that feel true, or giving you partial benefit of the doubt, you probably heard it from someone else and just went about your way repeating it.
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You are not really dense enough to think those protests were about the extrajudicial murder of a single black man, right? The protests were about a system that allows that to happen. A LEO murdered a guy, while 3 others watched and there would have been ZERO charges if not for video and the outrage it caused.

Repubs are ALL about performative outrage. They complain about Big Bird and the 'War on Christmas' and Biden taking a holiday and Harris buying a piece of cookware but they never seem to actually do anything for the American people. How long did they hem and haw about infrastructure, (which everyone agrees is sorely needed)? And did nothing?
If socialism means that people do not have to start a ******* GoFundME to pay off medical bills and people having to ration insulin and for kids to not go hungry and grandma not to have to work until she is 80, then sign me the **** up for that.
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(11-24-2021 03:51 PM)All4One Wrote:  
(11-24-2021 03:43 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  
(11-24-2021 03:28 PM)All4One Wrote:  
(11-24-2021 03:14 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  
(11-24-2021 03:08 PM)All4One Wrote:  I'm done trying to reason with a liberal pig like you, Reed.

It would help if you understood reason to begin with. But you just keep sidestepping, you were so sure I was wrong, but then yiu were sure that Joe Biden had signed the most EO in history too...

Did you connect my BBS and go middle handles all by yourself, or did someone help you?

Am I supposed to feel threatened? 07-coffee3

Biden isn't there yet, but give him time if he hasn't died in office yet. He does have the most per year average since Truman.

https://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/statisti...ive-orders

I'm not going to define socialism and communism In your purely distorted views, but there are good sources.

https://pin.it/7t3s1hb

03-lmfao

I already spoke at length about his EO, you aren't telling me anything I didn't know, or didn't already address...

(11-23-2021 12:34 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  But I'd love to know where you pulled that "more executive orders than any other president in American history" because that just isn't true. He's currently on pace to pass Trump's total(who had the most in a single term since Carter, Trump also reached 80% of Obama's two term total in his single term) but Biden could increase his pace by 30% and he still wouldn't catch Truman's total for either term, he'd have to increase his pace by 70% to approach Teddy Roosevelt and neither of those two are in the top three for cumulative total or most in a single term. Biden could triple his pace and he'd still be a distant second to FDR in EOs per year. FDR averaged 307 a year for 12 years, Biden's current pace not quite through his first year is projected at 86(Trump's was 55).

You just follow Trump's lead of saying things that feel true, or giving you partial benefit of the doubt, you probably heard it from someone else and just went about your way repeating it.

Yes, and I'm acknowledging that I am wrong about the executive orders but not about the Democrat agenda to replace capitalism and free-enterprise with a mixture of socialism and communism or about Antifa as a domestic terrorist network. Their work indicates that they engage in terrorism.

Nor will I back down on atheism and agnosticism as a set of beliefs. Belief in unbelief is a belief. And belief in the ambiguity of beliefs is also a belief.

1) Next address the part where you told me I was wrong about all the countries with universal healthcare etc.

2) We absolutely need to fix the broken late stage capitalist dystopia we're living in and yes, socialism as it is found in literally every developed country in the world is the answer. You still don't understand communism if you think thats what any of this is.

3) Where did I say that agnosticism wasn't a belief system? All I said is nothing based on agnostic beliefs impedes on your rights. What does agnosticism say you cannot do?
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(11-24-2021 04:02 PM)ragin4u Wrote:  You are not really dense enough to think those protests were about the extrajudicial murder of a single black man, right? The protests were about a system that allows that to happen. A LEO murdered a guy, while 3 others watched and there would have been ZERO charges if not for video and the outrage it caused.

Repubs are ALL about performative outrage. They complain about Big Bird and the 'War on Christmas' and Biden taking a holiday and Harris buying a piece of cookware but they never seem to actually do anything for the American people. How long did they hem and haw about infrastructure, (which everyone agrees is sorely needed)? And did nothing?
If socialism means that people do not have to start a ******* GoFundME to pay off medical bills and people having to ration insulin and for kids to not go hungry and grandma not to have to work until she is 80, then sign me the **** up for that.

Then you should be taxed 95% of your income. Not even 100% taxed income from the Top 1% of taxpayers can afford free Healthcare for 350 Million citizens and millions more, who are not citizens. Not to mention everything else that's paid for with tax dollars. Maybe if we defunded Planned Parenthood, grandma wouldn't have to work til she's 80 nor would any child go hungry or without insulin.

03-lmfao

None of what you just said is true. I'm not sure what's funnier how much you think M4A would cost or how much funding you think PP gets...
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186 billion dollars is what the Treasury Dept says the top 1% AVOIDS in taxes yearly.
Most of us are already paying for healthcare, so I would not mind if that monthly premium is given back, I will pay some extra taxes and everyone can have healthcare that does not just enrich CEOs, etc.

I guess you do not know that there is a law that prevents federal dollars from paying for abortions. That is your concern with PP, right? All of the medical expenses from PP that Medicare pays for come from preventative care which actually saves money. Never let a good talking point get in the way of your narrative though.
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