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(03-06-2022 06:20 PM)thanksjim Wrote:  Still weird that an 18-11 team isn't going to their own conference tourney that had wins over multiple P5 teams.

Wins against P5 teams don’t count in the MAC standings. UCLA was 7th in the PAC 12 and Penn St. 11th in the B10. When all was said and done those wins weren’t all that impressive. As you all know P5 teams don’t take those games all that seriously. As soon as we got to the MAC where the coaches know us the offense pretty much ground to a halt. No player was consistently good and overall the basketball they played was pretty pathetic. There were a few games where it looked hopeful but they just didn’t have it. We can complain about a 9-10 team making it and a 10-10 team not but the rules were known by the teams and that’s the way it goes. With the exception of the COVID exception the tie break rules weren’t any different then they have been for years. Other than playing tie break games what else would be better. Seeding isn’t all that important anyway since only the winner of the tournament matters. It’s just something for talk about Personally I’m glad we are not going to get killed by Toledo or Buffalo.
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Sometimes it's best for the season to just end, rather than go into post-season and continue the disappointments.
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This would have been Asiah Dingles senior year at KSU. She was at Stony Brook last season and Fordham this season. Her speed/quickness, ability to slash and get to the basket, and defense was all sorely missed the last 2 seasons. Did Dingle want to move closer to home? (MA)

Thall getting COVID certainly didn’t help things.
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(03-07-2022 11:18 AM)GoFlashes8 Wrote:  This would have been Asiah Dingles senior year at KSU. She was at Stony Brook last season and Fordham this season. Her speed/quickness, ability to slash and get to the basket, and defense was all sorely missed the last 2 seasons. Did Dingle want to move closer to home? (MA)

Thall getting COVID certainly didn’t help things.

Yeah Dingle would have helped although her turnovers would have cancelled some of that out. Santoro looked good at times but she like everybody else was inconsistent. 15 points one game and shutout the next. Dingle did want to be closer to home.
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Dingle's father was very ill and died within a year after she transferred. Dingle is from Boston and her stated reason for the transfer was to be closer to him and home.

She was Fordham's second-leading scorer this season at 14.5 points per game and led the team in assists and steals. Fordham was 18-10 and finished sixth in the Atlantic 10 at 8-6.

At Stony Brook the year before, she averaged 11.8 points a game and helped the Seawolves to their first America East championship and NCAA Tournament appearance and a 15-6 record. She was second-team all-conference. Her Stony Brook coach took a job at George Washington (I think), which I assume would have had a large bearing on why she transferred from there.

At Kent State, Dingle was as dynamic driving to the basket as any player I've ever seen. She could be a strong defender when she didn't commit silly fouls. She also could play out of control and had no 3-point shot (still doesn't, looking at her stats).

Over her last 10 games here, she was the first player off the bench and was playing her best basketball. She led KSU in scoring that season. I liked her a lot, both as a person and a player.

Santoro is a much better outside shooter and plays more under control. But Dingle had a unique skill set. If she had played as she did at the end of her sophomore year, she could have meant two or three more wins for Kent State last year and this.

Santoro is a year younger than Dingle. She was much improved over her freshman year. But, as Burden said, Santoro was as inconsistent as the rest of the team this season.
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Seldom have preseason polls been as wrong as they were in the Mid-American Conference this season.

Toledo and Akon vastly outperformed their predictions. Ohio, Bowling Green, Kent State, Eastern Michigan and Central Michigan ended well below their predicted spot.

Here’s how coaches picked the league before the season started in November and their regular season results.

1. Ohio - 132 points. Finished eighth at 9-10, 15-13 overall.
2. Bowling Green - 124 points. Finished seventh at 10-10, 15-14.
3. Buffalo - 123 points. Finished second at 16-4, 22-8).
4. Kent State - 102 points. Finished ninth at 10-10, 18-11.
5. Eastern Michigan - 83 points. Finished 10th at 4-16, 7-20.
6. Central Michigan - 80 points. Finished last at 2-18, 4-25.
7. Northern Illinois - 79 points. Finished fifth at 11-0, 14-14.
8. Toledo - 67 points. Finished first at 19-1, 25-4).
9. Ball State - 65 points (1). Finished fourth at 11-8, 18-11.
10. Western Michigan - 31 points. Finished sixth at 10-10, 16-13.
11. Miami - 27 points. Finished 11th at 4-16, 8-21.
12. Akron - 23 points. Finished third at 13-7, 16-10.
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(03-07-2022 06:17 PM)cschierh Wrote:  Seldom have preseason polls been as wrong as they were in the Mid-American Conference this season.

Toledo and Akon vastly outperformed their predictions. Ohio, Bowling Green, Kent State, Eastern Michigan and Central Michigan ended well below their predicted spot.

Here’s how coaches picked the league before the season started in November and their regular season results.

1. Ohio - 132 points. Finished eighth at 9-10, 15-13 overall.
2. Bowling Green - 124 points. Finished seventh at 10-10, 15-14.
3. Buffalo - 123 points. Finished second at 16-4, 22-8).
4. Kent State - 102 points. Finished ninth at 10-10, 18-11.
5. Eastern Michigan - 83 points. Finished 10th at 4-16, 7-20.
6. Central Michigan - 80 points. Finished last at 2-18, 4-25.
7. Northern Illinois - 79 points. Finished fifth at 11-0, 14-14.
8. Toledo - 67 points. Finished first at 19-1, 25-4).
9. Ball State - 65 points (1). Finished fourth at 11-8, 18-11.
10. Western Michigan - 31 points. Finished sixth at 10-10, 16-13.
11. Miami - 27 points. Finished 11th at 4-16, 8-21.
12. Akron - 23 points. Finished third at 13-7, 16-10.

That really was bad especially since it was a coaches poll.
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Not one Kent player received an award. First team, second team, third team, honorable mention team, defensive team or freshman team. We didn’t even win the everybody receives an award award. Just that kind of season.
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I saw that and am writing a post on it. Kent State had no star and no one with big statistics.

I thought Thall might have a shot at the all-defensive team again, but her blocked shot total was down this season. Dunn was clearly (to me) one of the top seven or eight freshmen in the conference, but her stats were a little below the ones who made the team. She'll be all-MAC before she graduates.

Blackford definitely took a step back this season. Shumate did nothing special. Santoro averaged 10 points as sixth player, but the woman from Toledo had a bigger impact.
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(03-08-2022 06:13 PM)cschierh Wrote:  I saw that and am writing a post on it. Kent State had no star and no one with big statistics.

I thought Thall might have a shot at the all-defensive team again, but her blocked shot total was down this season. Dunn was clearly (to me) one of the top seven or eight freshmen in the conference, but her stats were a little below the ones who made the team. She'll be all-MAC before she graduates.

Blackford definitely took a step back this season. Shumate did nothing special. Santoro averaged 10 points as sixth player, but the woman from Toledo had a bigger impact.

I agree with their selections. Santoro was a 6th player but she really was the starter. Not really sure why Starkey started Modkins in most games and brought Santoro off the bench. I’m sure he had a reason though. When looking through the statistics I’m not sure Dunn shouldn’t have been starting the last 15 games. She did have a good year at least offensively. I didn’t see enough games this year to comment on her defense.
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(03-08-2022 06:13 PM)cschierh Wrote:  I saw that and am writing a post on it. Kent State had no star and no one with big statistics.

I thought Thall might have a shot at the all-defensive team again, but her blocked shot total was down this season. Dunn was clearly (to me) one of the top seven or eight freshmen in the conference, but her stats were a little below the ones who made the team. She'll be all-MAC before she graduates.

Blackford definitely took a step back this season. Shumate did nothing special. Santoro averaged 10 points as sixth player, but the woman from Toledo had a bigger impact.

I guess that also shows how unimportant these are. Our whole starting lineup except for Young, that is Thall,, Blackford, Shumate, and Santoro won at least one of these in their first 2 years. You would think we would have been unbeatable this year when they were all juniors and seniors. Didn’t work out that way.
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The first day of the women's Mid-American Conference Tournament was generally predictable.

In three of the games, the higher seed won by 13 points or more. In the fourth, No. 5 seed Ball State came from behind to beat No. 4 Northern Illinois.

Top-seeded Toledo (26-4, 19-1 MAC regular season) 80, No. 8 Ohio (15-14, 9-10) 67. Ohio stayed close for the first three quarters and trailed 58-53, but Toledo pulled away in the fourth quarter. Toledo guards Sophia Wiard and Quinesha Locket each had 19 points. Ohio's Cece Hooks, who scored more points in her career than any other MAC player, finished with 22 points.

No. 2 Buffalo 63 (23-8, 16-4) 63, No. 7 Western Michigan (16-14, 10-10) 49. The Buffalo defense smothered WMU, allowing only nine points in the second quarter and six in the third, and forcing 18 turnovers. Buffalo guard Dyaisha Fair led all scorers with 19 points.

No. 3 Akron (17-10, 13-7) trailed No. 6 Bowling Green (15-15, 10-10) 23-20 after the first quarter but dominated the rest of the game and won 81-67. Akron's Jordyn Dawson, the MAC player of the year, had 22 points, seven rebounds, four assists and six steals.

No. 5 Ball State (19-11, 11-8) trailed No. 4 Northern Illinois (14-15, 11-9) by 13 points four minutes into the third quarter but came back to win 60-54. BSU held Northern to 20 points in the second half. Four Ball State players scored in double figures, led by freshman guard Ally Becki with 15.

On Friday, Toledo will play Ball State at 10 a.m. and Buffalo will play Akron at about 12:30 p.m. Both games are on ESPN+.
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#1 Toledo is in some trouble losing 39-25 to Ball St. at halftime. Their shooting 14% from 3 and 32% overall compared to 33% and 52% for Ball St. The only issue is two Ball St. players have left due to injury (one just before the end of the half) and don’t appear to be coming back.
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Ball St 51 Toledo 46 going into the 4th quarter. Toledo turned up the defense and got back in the game.. I’d say it’s going to be very tough for Ball St. to hang on. Too many turnovers right now.
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Ball St. 71, Toledo 66. No1 seed is gone.
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Buffalo 54, Akron 37 with 25 seconds left in third. Looks like Buffalo vs. Ball St. tomorrow. On paper a pretty good mismatch. We will see.
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I saw a good chunk of the Buffalo quarterfinal and thought then they looked like they'd win the tournament.

Now it looks pretty likely, though, as you say, you never know.

And Kent beat Ball State twice.
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(03-11-2022 05:16 PM)cschierh Wrote:  I saw a good chunk of the Buffalo quarterfinal and thought then they looked like they'd win the tournament.

Now it looks pretty likely, though, as you say, you never know.

And Kent beat Ball State twice.

It didn’t help Ball St that two rotation players (if not starters went down today). One with an obvious knee injury that she could put no weight on as she left the floor and another who I think got her bell rung. She might play but I doubt it.
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Buffalo is by far the best team here. They defend well, they shoot well and Fair might be the best player in the league. They have raced out to a 38-37 lead at the half. Don’t know how Ball St. is hanging in there but they are. They are having one of those tournaments so far. Can’t help but be pulling for them.
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Buffalo 53, Ball St. 50 after 3. Still a game.
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