(11-11-2021 08:48 PM)We Are the Dukes of JMU Wrote: Assuming we finish the season behind Villanova in the CAA and get an at-large as expected, can we just withdraw from CAA Football and play in the playoffs as an independent? It’s a separate conference legally. I would prefer to play our ESPN games with no CAA logos in sight.
I feel you but I think that's a short-term pleasure/long-term pain kind of thing. We just need to be the bigger party in this situation, let our CAA membership end, and join the Sun Belt with our reputation intact. Long-term, people will remember our class.
(11-11-2021 08:48 PM)We Are the Dukes of JMU Wrote: Assuming we finish the season behind Villanova in the CAA and get an at-large as expected, can we just withdraw from CAA Football and play in the playoffs as an independent? It’s a separate conference legally. I would prefer to play our ESPN games with no CAA logos in sight.
I feel you but I think that's a short-term pleasure/long-term pain kind of thing. We just need to be the bigger party in this situation, let our CAA membership end, and join the Sun Belt with our reputation intact. Long-term, people will remember our class.
I agree. My emotions say to stick it to the CAA as hard as we can, but long term we will be proud of being the "bigger person". Thankfully, the vibe I get from our admin in general is that they will take the high road while standing up for our athletes as best they can. That said, I feel terrible for the athletes...
I think the best revenge is remembering that they are the ones stuck in a dying conference.
(11-12-2021 09:17 AM)BSKB 24 Wrote: I predict that after our move is over, the CAA will change their by-laws moving forward and remove this stupid penalty. Book it!
I don't want to take the high road. I very much hope the athletes go to court and as I've stated previously I will donate to their legal expenses.
I never knew the CAA and it's Presidents could be so mean and petty. It is blatantly obvious they don't like JMU. Good riddance.
Shame because especially in football, JMU was the only school making the conference relevant. Good chance the CAA becomes a 1-2 bid league in the FCS playoffs when we leave
I have no doubt that the rule will be done away with sometime soon, probably very quietly and without any fanfare or what not. I would think that the CAA would not want to have the whole issue revisited when they do away with the rule.
I don't have any problem with the students doing (almost) whatever they want. Just keep it classy. I think the admin will support them. They allowed them to have a protest on the field Saturday, for example. What JMU does as an institution and what the athletes do as individuals are two different things.
(11-12-2021 09:30 AM)Dukes94 Wrote: I don't have any problem with the students doing (almost) whatever they want. Just keep it classy. I think the admin will support them. They allowed them to have a protest on the field Saturday, for example. What JMU does as an institution and what the athletes do as individuals are two different things.
I'd love to see a similar protest on the nationally televised UVA game.
Putting women's volleyball logo w/ 10-4 (their record) on the side of football helmets as they get left off CAA Championship brackets. Not sure if I've thought this through enough but something along those lines where it gets picked up on our run to a Football Championship this year. maybe men's soccer the next week. Maybe just put the records on the side of the helmet for all the current aggrieved teams. message would get through. I imagine the football team would love the extra push to rep for the whole school. And completely stomp every opponent in the ground. No mercy rules or foot off the gas when up 4 touchdowns.
Maybe design a patch with all the affected sports (soccer logo, volleyball logo, etc.) and add it to football & basketball jerseys where it could get some exposure and mentions. Not super petty...but get the point across and sting the CAA heads when they have to see it. Also give a shout out to the fellow athletes and let them know we care about their plight as a University and fellow Dukes. A new rally cry.
I'm feeling kind of petty and vindictive now. i don't want anything low-class, but I would like to "throw a punch" at the CAA. Alger and Bourne's final line in their release about the Sun Belt obviously being the right move after the CAA's decision was on point.
I'd love to see the CAA logos painted over for the playoffs with big blue circles with NCAA in them. no harm no foul. Heck they put them on opposite sides of the CAA logos on the field anyway for those games.. NCAA doesnt allow any advertisement by local companys and JMU has to cover up those or take them down. They made them cover the Glo-Fiber logos on the coaches headsets last year with NCAA/FCS stickers for TV viewing peep not to get local ads,, so petty.
Is JMU still eligible for money from the garbage media deal? If so, JMU may play nice until the end of the spring. If they covered up the logo, the CAA could take that as a hostile act and could get legal. I get that JMU would most likely win, but JMU would have to pay for their own legal fees and if CAA wants to be really vindictive, they could play this out in the legal system for a long time costing JMU a lot of money.
As much as I hate it, JMU should still be the good guy when it comes to the logos.
Aside from that, discredit everything the conference does by blowing every opponent out. Players put up godly numbers without mention by the conference. Win the regular season and deny us the playoffs. Every time that happens, the worse the CAA will look.
Once we leave the CAA, they are dead to us. No games. No pay days. Nothing.
(11-12-2021 02:15 PM)Dukes94 Wrote: Absolutely none of this is going to happen...but the admin will monitor the situation. They've had their excitement and now it's time for a nap.
(11-12-2021 09:17 AM)BSKB 24 Wrote: I predict that after our move is over, the CAA will change their by-laws moving forward and remove this stupid penalty. Book it!
I don't want to take the high road. I very much hope the athletes go to court and as I've stated previously I will donate to their legal expenses.
I agree and said that earlier, as soon as the dust settles they’ll quietly make that bi-law go away or change it substantially. Also, as I pointed out the CAAs legal fees will need to be paid by JMU so I don’t see the school presenting any case, they’ve moved on. I also assume any logos, patches, or helmet logos would have to be approved by the CAA and/or NCAA so I don’t see any of that happening. The conference bi-laws indicate how logos and conference logos are to be displayed. I think the best we could hope for would be every single player somehow hit the field with an inadvertent grass or mud stain in the same exact spot.
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Place a fake fire hydrant on the CAA logo on the field and lead Duke Dawg (the actual English Bulldog) to it to relieve himself. Should be a Top Ten Play of the Day on ESPN.
(11-12-2021 02:12 PM)JMad03 Wrote: Is JMU still eligible for money from the garbage media deal? If so, JMU may play nice until the end of the spring. If they covered up the logo, the CAA could take that as a hostile act and could get legal. I get that JMU would most likely win, but JMU would have to pay for their own legal fees and if CAA wants to be really vindictive, they could play this out in the legal system for a long time costing JMU a lot of money.
As much as I hate it, JMU should still be the good guy when it comes to the logos. Aside from that, discredit everything the conference does by blowing every opponent out. Players put up godly numbers without mention by the conference. Win the regular season and deny us the playoffs. Every time that happens, the worse the CAA will look.
Once we leave the CAA, they are dead to us. No games. No pay days. Nothing.
I say we go full Major League. Get cardboard cutouts of all of the CAA presidents who voted to ban our players and peal off a section of clothing every time a JMU team wins a conference game.
(11-12-2021 02:15 PM)Dukes94 Wrote: Absolutely none of this is going to happen...but the admin will monitor the situation. They've had their excitement and now it's time for a nap.
Really? You're the worst, dude.
I am. I really am.
I was different back in the day. Around '92 or so, we drove to an away hoops game at Mason. JMU won at the buzzer when Kent Culuko tipped in a miss layup. My friend's car, a Plymouth K-car, for some reason had a loudspeaker under the hood. We were driving out of the parking lot at the Patriot Center harassing the Mason students at high volume after the win. One of them told us to go back to the country or something, implying Harrisonburg was a hick town and thus JMU was a hick college. I told her, over the loudspeaker, to be quiet or I'd shove a corn cob up her rear end.
That kind of stupid stuff happened all the time. We always sat on the end line behind the basket and gave the away team hell. Lost our voices. Almost got kicked out by the refs. I'm sure I'd be at one of the games today raging on the CAA if I were 19 again.
(11-12-2021 02:12 PM)JMad03 Wrote: Is JMU still eligible for money from the garbage media deal? If so, JMU may play nice until the end of the spring. If they covered up the logo, the CAA could take that as a hostile act and could get legal. I get that JMU would most likely win, but JMU would have to pay for their own legal fees and if CAA wants to be really vindictive, they could play this out in the legal system for a long time costing JMU a lot of money.
As much as I hate it, JMU should still be the good guy when it comes to the logos. Aside from that, discredit everything the conference does by blowing every opponent out. Players put up godly numbers without mention by the conference. Win the regular season and deny us the playoffs. Every time that happens, the worse the CAA will look.
Once we leave the CAA, they are dead to us. No games. No pay days. Nothing.
I say we go full Major League. Get cardboard cutouts of all of the CAA presidents who voted to ban our players and peal off a section of clothing every time a JMU team wins a conference game.
At least that team owner was a milf. Seeing those old prez f#%cks nakid would be torturing us, not them.