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SB Bowl Affiliations
Newbie from JMU here. What are the top bowls with current SB contracts? Where do you hope your teams end up? Any rumors on any changes that may be coming to include higher profile bowls to the SB portfolio?
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RE: SB Bowl Affiliations
Bowl games are locked in until 2023-2024 season. So this will change before JMU gets to go bowling.

Right now SBC Champ is placed by ESPN in their Bowl Pool.

SBC #2 - New Orleans Bowl
SBC #3 - ESPN Bowl Pool
SBC #4 - ESPN Bowl Pool
SBC #5 - Mobile Bowl
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RE: SB Bowl Affiliations
Currently, there are five bowl tie ins. The champion is not assigned one bowl game. It's just a selection order.

First, if the SB champion is the highest ranked G5 champion by the CFP, they go to a NY6 bowl.

Barring that, this is the order of selection:

1) ESPN-owned bowl game
2) New Orleans Bowl (vs. C-USA)
3) ESPN-owned bowl game
4) ESPN-owned bowl game
5) Mobile bowl game (currently called the Lending Tree Bowl) (vs. MAC)

ESPN-owned bowl games include Myrtle Beach, Cure (Orlando's MLS stadium), Camellia (Montgomery, AL), Frisco (north of Dallas, same stadium as FCS Championship), First Responder (SMU's stadium in Dallas), Boca Raton, Idaho Potato (Boise),
and New Mexico (Albequerque). Most of these will be against C-USA or the MAC, some may be against the AAC, and the westernmost two would be against the MW.

I'm hoping that with the addition of four schools, we will get at least two additional tie-ins, keeping it at half the conference having bowl tie ins. One of the new ones I would hope can be against a P5 team, the other against archrival AAC. We have enough against the MAC and C-USA.
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(11-08-2021 09:41 AM)Yosef Himself Wrote:  Bowl games are locked in until 2023-2024 season. So this will change before JMU gets to go bowling.

Right now SBC Champ is placed by ESPN in their Bowl Pool.

SBC #2 - New Orleans Bowl
SBC #3 - ESPN Bowl Pool
SBC #4 - ESPN Bowl Pool
SBC #5 - Mobile Bowl

If realignment comes before that date, I have to assume that there will be some re-negotiation. If C-USA football programs come in 2022, taking us to 13 and C-USA to 11, there would be a de facto shift, regardless of contracts, as C-USA would be unlikely to fill 7 bowl slots.
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RE: SB Bowl Affiliations
With 14 teams the Sun Belt will be allowed to sign contracts with 7 bowls.

I bet half will be ESPN bowl pool slots to ensure a better matchup but we'll likely keep direct tie-ins with NOLA and Mobile. Maybe ESPN will grant the conference with a guaranteed slot in a regional bowl like Birmingham.

However, ESPN could try to make one of their ESPN Event bowls (Like the Cure Bowl) into a premiere G5 slot featuring either two ranked G5s, two Conference Champs, or G5vP5
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(11-08-2021 09:54 AM)Yosef Himself Wrote:  With 14 teams the Sun Belt will be allowed to sign contracts with 7 bowls.

I bet half will be ESPN bowl pool slots to ensure a better matchup but we'll likely keep direct tie-ins with NOLA and Mobile. Maybe ESPN will grant the conference with a guaranteed slot in a regional bowl like Birmingham.

However, ESPN could try to make one of their ESPN Event bowls (Like the Cure Bowl) into a premiere G5 slot featuring either two ranked G5s, two Conference Champs, or G5vP5

That is almost a central location for most of the 14 SB schools:
Troy - 2 hr 10 min
Georgia St - 2 hr 10 min
USM - 3 hr 20 min
USA - 3 hr 45 min
Ark St - 4 hr 40 min
ULM - 5 hr
Georgia Southern - 5 hr 15 min
UL - 6 hr 30 min
App St - 6 hr 30 min
CCU - 7 hr 30 min
Marshall - 7 hr 45 min
JMU - 9 hr
ODU - 10 hr 45 min
Texas St - 12 hr 15 min
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Barring upsets, it looks like we will fill only four bowl slots this year.
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(11-08-2021 09:51 AM)Michael in Raleigh Wrote:  Currently, there are five bowl tie ins. The champion is not assigned one bowl game. It's just a selection order.

First, if the SB champion is the highest ranked G5 champion by the CFP, they go to a NY6 bowl.

Barring that, this is the order of selection:

1) ESPN-owned bowl game
2) New Orleans Bowl (vs. C-USA)
3) ESPN-owned bowl game
4) ESPN-owned bowl game
5) Mobile bowl game (currently called the Lending Tree Bowl) (vs. MAC)

ESPN-owned bowl games include Myrtle Beach, Cure (Orlando's MLS stadium), Camellia (Montgomery, AL), Frisco (north of Dallas, same stadium as FCS Championship), First Responder (Cotton Bowl Stadium in Dallas), Boca Raton, Idaho Potato (Boise),
and New Mexico (Albequerque). Most of these will be against C-USA or the MAC, some may be against the AAC, and the westernmost two would be against the MW.

I'm hoping that with the addition of four schools, we will get at least two additional tie-ins, keeping it at half the conference having bowl tie ins. One of the new ones I would hope can be against a P5 team, the other against archrival AAC. We have enough against the MAC and C-USA.

A lot of JMU fans are tired of Frisco and wished the championship game would rotate or flat out move. It'd be pretty funny if our first bowl ends up in Frisco after some "woohoo, no more trips to Frisco!" type reactions as one of many reasons to be excited for the move.
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RE: SB Bowl Affiliations
(11-08-2021 02:41 PM)KickItToScotty Wrote:  
(11-08-2021 09:51 AM)Michael in Raleigh Wrote:  Currently, there are five bowl tie ins. The champion is not assigned one bowl game. It's just a selection order.

First, if the SB champion is the highest ranked G5 champion by the CFP, they go to a NY6 bowl.

Barring that, this is the order of selection:

1) ESPN-owned bowl game
2) New Orleans Bowl (vs. C-USA)
3) ESPN-owned bowl game
4) ESPN-owned bowl game
5) Mobile bowl game (currently called the Lending Tree Bowl) (vs. MAC)

ESPN-owned bowl games include Myrtle Beach, Cure (Orlando's MLS stadium), Camellia (Montgomery, AL), Frisco (north of Dallas, same stadium as FCS Championship), First Responder (Cotton Bowl Stadium in Dallas), Boca Raton, Idaho Potato (Boise),
and New Mexico (Albequerque). Most of these will be against C-USA or the MAC, some may be against the AAC, and the westernmost two would be against the MW.

I'm hoping that with the addition of four schools, we will get at least two additional tie-ins, keeping it at half the conference having bowl tie ins. One of the new ones I would hope can be against a P5 team, the other against archrival AAC. We have enough against the MAC and C-USA.

A lot of JMU fans are tired of Frisco and wished the championship game would rotate or flat out move. It'd be pretty funny if our first bowl ends up in Frisco after some "woohoo, no more trips to Frisco!" type reactions as one of many reasons to be excited for the move.

Frisco is okay but is a little too spread out to make it a fun destination for the FCS ship. I still remain bummed about 2008 and not being able to go to Chattanooga, which I hear was actually a pretty good destination town for the game.
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RE: SB Bowl Affiliations
(11-08-2021 03:49 PM)All Dukes_All Day Wrote:  
(11-08-2021 02:41 PM)KickItToScotty Wrote:  
(11-08-2021 09:51 AM)Michael in Raleigh Wrote:  Currently, there are five bowl tie ins. The champion is not assigned one bowl game. It's just a selection order.

First, if the SB champion is the highest ranked G5 champion by the CFP, they go to a NY6 bowl.

Barring that, this is the order of selection:

1) ESPN-owned bowl game
2) New Orleans Bowl (vs. C-USA)
3) ESPN-owned bowl game
4) ESPN-owned bowl game
5) Mobile bowl game (currently called the Lending Tree Bowl) (vs. MAC)

ESPN-owned bowl games include Myrtle Beach, Cure (Orlando's MLS stadium), Camellia (Montgomery, AL), Frisco (north of Dallas, same stadium as FCS Championship), First Responder (Cotton Bowl Stadium in Dallas), Boca Raton, Idaho Potato (Boise),
and New Mexico (Albequerque). Most of these will be against C-USA or the MAC, some may be against the AAC, and the westernmost two would be against the MW.

I'm hoping that with the addition of four schools, we will get at least two additional tie-ins, keeping it at half the conference having bowl tie ins. One of the new ones I would hope can be against a P5 team, the other against archrival AAC. We have enough against the MAC and C-USA.

A lot of JMU fans are tired of Frisco and wished the championship game would rotate or flat out move. It'd be pretty funny if our first bowl ends up in Frisco after some "woohoo, no more trips to Frisco!" type reactions as one of many reasons to be excited for the move.

Frisco is okay but is a little too spread out to make it a fun destination for the FCS ship. I still remain bummed about 2008 and not being able to go to Chattanooga, which I hear was actually a pretty good destination town for the game.

The game is always a blast so really any complaint about the venue for me isn't a major one, somewhere that's cool to be aside from the game is just a nice bonus. Honestly the list of places I'd really be excited about isn't all that long anyway so if we weren't gonna really luck out and have the championship moved to Vegas then at least Chattanooga was easily drivable and Frisco was cheap to fly to. I was only 14 for the Chattanooga trip(actually the ride out was on my 14th birthday lol) and was sick so tough to judge there, but Frisco was alright the first time. Return trips just would've been nice to have some variety and I'd imagine NDSU fans feel that way even more.

Now with bowls at least there'll be some variety even if it's still not often anywhere I really care much about personally. A lot of them listed here are places I've never been though so hey, potential! 02-13-banana
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(11-08-2021 04:19 PM)KickItToScotty Wrote:  
(11-08-2021 03:49 PM)All Dukes_All Day Wrote:  
(11-08-2021 02:41 PM)KickItToScotty Wrote:  
(11-08-2021 09:51 AM)Michael in Raleigh Wrote:  Currently, there are five bowl tie ins. The champion is not assigned one bowl game. It's just a selection order.

First, if the SB champion is the highest ranked G5 champion by the CFP, they go to a NY6 bowl.

Barring that, this is the order of selection:

1) ESPN-owned bowl game
2) New Orleans Bowl (vs. C-USA)
3) ESPN-owned bowl game
4) ESPN-owned bowl game
5) Mobile bowl game (currently called the Lending Tree Bowl) (vs. MAC)

ESPN-owned bowl games include Myrtle Beach, Cure (Orlando's MLS stadium), Camellia (Montgomery, AL), Frisco (north of Dallas, same stadium as FCS Championship), First Responder (Cotton Bowl Stadium in Dallas), Boca Raton, Idaho Potato (Boise),
and New Mexico (Albequerque). Most of these will be against C-USA or the MAC, some may be against the AAC, and the westernmost two would be against the MW.

I'm hoping that with the addition of four schools, we will get at least two additional tie-ins, keeping it at half the conference having bowl tie ins. One of the new ones I would hope can be against a P5 team, the other against archrival AAC. We have enough against the MAC and C-USA.

A lot of JMU fans are tired of Frisco and wished the championship game would rotate or flat out move. It'd be pretty funny if our first bowl ends up in Frisco after some "woohoo, no more trips to Frisco!" type reactions as one of many reasons to be excited for the move.

Frisco is okay but is a little too spread out to make it a fun destination for the FCS ship. I still remain bummed about 2008 and not being able to go to Chattanooga, which I hear was actually a pretty good destination town for the game.

The game is always a blast so really any complaint about the venue for me isn't a major one, somewhere that's cool to be aside from the game is just a nice bonus. Honestly the list of places I'd really be excited about isn't all that long anyway so if we weren't gonna really luck out and have the championship moved to Vegas then at least Chattanooga was easily drivable and Frisco was cheap to fly to. I was only 14 for the Chattanooga trip(actually the ride out was on my 14th birthday lol) and was sick so tough to judge there, but Frisco was alright the first time. Return trips just would've been nice to have some variety and I'd imagine NDSU fans feel that way even more.

Now with bowls at least there'll be some variety even if it's still not often anywhere I really care much about personally. A lot of them listed here are places I've never been though so hey, potential! 02-13-banana

I agree. Myrtle Beach is obviously one of the top destinations and I imagine that it will essentially be a de-facto Sun Belt East game based on geography of the teams.

New Orleans is obviously a cool destination and even Mobile would be a nice break from the cold weather most of our fans and alums will be experiencing in late December/early January, with the added bonus of the AL gulf shores being very close.
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(11-08-2021 04:30 PM)All Dukes_All Day Wrote:  I agree. Myrtle Beach is obviously one of the top destinations and I imagine that it will essentially be a de-facto Sun Belt East game based on geography of the teams.

New Orleans is obviously a cool destination and even Mobile would be a nice break from the cold weather most of our fans and alums will be experiencing in late December/early January, with the added bonus of the AL gulf shores being very close.

Yeah, Boca Raton and New Orleans are the two that really stand out to me. Myrtle Beach kinda, but more appealing for regular season games at Coastal than a December bowl game... I do have a nice wetsuit though! lol
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Mobile and Montgomery put on a pretty great show for their bowl games.
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(11-08-2021 03:49 PM)All Dukes_All Day Wrote:  
(11-08-2021 02:41 PM)KickItToScotty Wrote:  
(11-08-2021 09:51 AM)Michael in Raleigh Wrote:  Currently, there are five bowl tie ins. The champion is not assigned one bowl game. It's just a selection order.

First, if the SB champion is the highest ranked G5 champion by the CFP, they go to a NY6 bowl.

Barring that, this is the order of selection:

1) ESPN-owned bowl game
2) New Orleans Bowl (vs. C-USA)
3) ESPN-owned bowl game
4) ESPN-owned bowl game
5) Mobile bowl game (currently called the Lending Tree Bowl) (vs. MAC)

ESPN-owned bowl games include Myrtle Beach, Cure (Orlando's MLS stadium), Camellia (Montgomery, AL), Frisco (north of Dallas, same stadium as FCS Championship), First Responder (Cotton Bowl Stadium in Dallas), Boca Raton, Idaho Potato (Boise),
and New Mexico (Albequerque). Most of these will be against C-USA or the MAC, some may be against the AAC, and the westernmost two would be against the MW.

I'm hoping that with the addition of four schools, we will get at least two additional tie-ins, keeping it at half the conference having bowl tie ins. One of the new ones I would hope can be against a P5 team, the other against archrival AAC. We have enough against the MAC and C-USA.

A lot of JMU fans are tired of Frisco and wished the championship game would rotate or flat out move. It'd be pretty funny if our first bowl ends up in Frisco after some "woohoo, no more trips to Frisco!" type reactions as one of many reasons to be excited for the move.

Frisco is okay but is a little too spread out to make it a fun destination for the FCS ship. I still remain bummed about 2008 and not being able to go to Chattanooga, which I hear was actually a pretty good destination town for the game.

Good place to watch a game, for sure. I wouldn't say that it's a destination city, for me.
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I'd like too see the SBC get a bowl vs. a P5.

It's been nice to beat up on the CUSA and MAC teams, but it's time to change it up some.
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NY6 is the chance..for now, or a strong SBC team will be playing a 4 loss P5 - I'm not sure thats a better look unless it's a school with a lot of cache
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RE: SB Bowl Affiliations
(11-08-2021 05:23 PM)ericsaid Wrote:  
(11-08-2021 03:49 PM)All Dukes_All Day Wrote:  
(11-08-2021 02:41 PM)KickItToScotty Wrote:  
(11-08-2021 09:51 AM)Michael in Raleigh Wrote:  Currently, there are five bowl tie ins. The champion is not assigned one bowl game. It's just a selection order.

First, if the SB champion is the highest ranked G5 champion by the CFP, they go to a NY6 bowl.

Barring that, this is the order of selection:

1) ESPN-owned bowl game
2) New Orleans Bowl (vs. C-USA)
3) ESPN-owned bowl game
4) ESPN-owned bowl game
5) Mobile bowl game (currently called the Lending Tree Bowl) (vs. MAC)

ESPN-owned bowl games include Myrtle Beach, Cure (Orlando's MLS stadium), Camellia (Montgomery, AL), Frisco (north of Dallas, same stadium as FCS Championship), First Responder (Cotton Bowl Stadium in Dallas), Boca Raton, Idaho Potato (Boise),
and New Mexico (Albequerque). Most of these will be against C-USA or the MAC, some may be against the AAC, and the westernmost two would be against the MW.

I'm hoping that with the addition of four schools, we will get at least two additional tie-ins, keeping it at half the conference having bowl tie ins. One of the new ones I would hope can be against a P5 team, the other against archrival AAC. We have enough against the MAC and C-USA.

A lot of JMU fans are tired of Frisco and wished the championship game would rotate or flat out move. It'd be pretty funny if our first bowl ends up in Frisco after some "woohoo, no more trips to Frisco!" type reactions as one of many reasons to be excited for the move.

Frisco is okay but is a little too spread out to make it a fun destination for the FCS ship. I still remain bummed about 2008 and not being able to go to Chattanooga, which I hear was actually a pretty good destination town for the game.

Good place to watch a game, for sure. I wouldn't say that it's a destination city, for me.

My wife and I went to Chattanooga in August for a weekend getaway without kids. We thought it was fantastic. Plenty to do. We stayed two nights. Could've easily stayed three or four without running out of things to do.
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(11-08-2021 11:08 PM)CardinalBlackTrojan Wrote:  I'd like too see the SBC get a bowl vs. a P5.

It's been nice to beat up on the CUSA and MAC teams, but it's time to change it up some.

It would be nice but I don't want our conference champion playing a 6-6 team from the new Big XII or whatever.

I like having the SBC #1 play the #1 of a peer conference, if they miss the NY6 bowl
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New Orleans is a great spot to spend 3-4 nights prior to the bowl.
Mobile has a lot of things to do downtown and a lot of it is tied into the bowl.
There's plenty to do in Myrtle Beach, especially if you play golf.
I learned during the baseball tournament last year that Downtown Montgomery can be a lot of fun.
Orlando has the mouse.

All of our bowl tie ins are great.

I wish we would have had a few extra days in Dallas last year for the First Responder Bowl, but COVID killed that. (BTW. that game is at the SMU stadium not the Cotton Bowl.

The only other one that isn't out west is Boca and I'm not thrilled with it. Definitely not a college football town. The FAU stadium is nice, however.
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(11-09-2021 11:23 AM)Troy_Fan_15 Wrote:  
(11-08-2021 11:08 PM)CardinalBlackTrojan Wrote:  I'd like too see the SBC get a bowl vs. a P5.

It's been nice to beat up on the CUSA and MAC teams, but it's time to change it up some.

It would be nice but I don't want our conference champion playing a 6-6 team from the new Big XII or whatever.

I like having the SBC #1 play the #1 of a peer conference, if they miss the NY6 bowl

Yes preferably conference winners of SBC and AAC
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