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RE: Liberty & NMSU & FCS members Jacksonville State & SHSU to CUSA
(11-01-2021 08:40 PM)MUHERD76 Wrote: That is good news. Happy for UTEP, La Tech and FIU. I guess they now wait and see if WKU and MTSU really leave. They have a big decision to make. Stay, play and continue recruiting in a Southern Conference or got the MAC route? Missouri State would be a nice addition to this group as well. Will be interesting to see what WKU and MTSU actually do.
1. WKU
2. MTSU
3, La Tech
4. FIU
5, LIberty
6. UTEP
7. New Mexico State
8. Jacksonville State
9. Sam Houston State
Maybe add Missouri State if they are willing?
Not bad a situation. A lot of people don't realize how close Marshall was to staying in CUSA.
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RE: Liberty & NMSU & FCS members Jacksonville State & SHSU to CUSA
Quote:These are the schools I've been hearing for the past couple of days though Liberty is a little bit of a surprise. My understanding is that was still lukewarm at best.
I think it's not so shocking due to Liberty's serious ethical problems that arose recently. Joining a conference (even if bad) would bring stability to their sports programs to weather the storm. That is my only guess as to why they would want to.
That said, I think too many people are Hastily taking Liberty joining + 2 ranked FCS teams with a foreseen FBS future (like many who already bolted) = "the place to be" for a current or leaving CUSA team.
Just making CUSA survive doesn't = stay-stay-stay. For the short-run, I could see the immediate benefit, yeah. But we know WKY & MTSU weren't walking out due to a theoretical 100% chance CUSA was folding.
Now, if CUSA somehow magically took teams from the MW & MAC along with that -- then, yeah, I could Obviously see them wanting to stay. But instead, everyone's been jumping ship. I don't think anyone's thinking "OH, you got that Jerry Falwell college that's run into ethical problems coming in, along with some new FCS teams that we knew you'd Have to get to survive? Oh no, we can't leave!"
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RE: Liberty & NMSU & FCS members Jacksonville State & SHSU to CUSA
These are the best additions possible. If true nicely done.
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RE: Liberty & NMSU & FCS members Jacksonville State & SHSU to CUSA
(11-01-2021 08:38 PM)WKUYG Wrote: Marshall, ODU, Western, Middle, Tech, UTEP, FIU, NMST...
Any 2 or all 4 of the below
Liberty
JMU
Jacksonville St
SHSU
the bottom would have been very small in both Basketball and football and a very good core group of 5 to 6 that could and would be in the top of the G5
Thanks...
Marshall & ODU, I have a feeling in a few short years a few schools will be regretting not sticking it out. Western one of those if we go with the MAC
Nah..... We want to be in an Eastern/Southern league with ODU, JMU, App, Coastal, Georgia Southern etc. That's were are alumni are, its where we recruit and its some of our oldest rivals. No regrets from us. I promise. The real decision is what will you guys will do? If you are having second thoughts, you might want to get on the horn with your AD/President before they sign the dotted line for the MAC.
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RE: Liberty & NMSU & FCS members Jacksonville State & SHSU to CUSA
(11-01-2021 08:45 PM)MUHERD76 Wrote: (11-01-2021 08:38 PM)WKUYG Wrote: Marshall, ODU, Western, Middle, Tech, UTEP, FIU, NMST...
Any 2 or all 4 of the below
Liberty
JMU
Jacksonville St
SHSU
the bottom would have been very small in both Basketball and football and a very good core group of 5 to 6 that could and would be in the top of the G5
Thanks...
Marshall & ODU, I have a feeling in a few short years a few schools will be regretting not sticking it out. Western one of those if we go with the MAC
Nah..... We want to be in an Eastern/Southern league with ODU, JMU, App, Coastal, Georgia Southern etc. That's were are alumni are, its where we recruit and its some of our oldest rivals. No regrets from us. I promise. The real decision is what will you guys will do? If you are having second thoughts, you might want to get on the horn with your AD/President before they sign the dotted line for the MAC.
Most of Marshall alumni are in Florida where we have six alumni chapters. Don't be surprise to see another Florida Alumni Chapter to be starting within a year.
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RE: Liberty & NMSU & FCS members Jacksonville State & SHSU to CUSA
Good looking conference. Now get a good commissioner.
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RE: Liberty & NMSU & FCS members Jacksonville State & SHSU to CUSA
Happy for UTEP, FIU, and the puppies. Glad to see not-Judy make the best decision she could all things considered.
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RE: Liberty & NMSU & FCS members Jacksonville State & SHSU to CUSA
(11-01-2021 08:51 PM)Noodles Wrote: Good looking conference. Now get a good commissioner.
I can't see the current commissioner staying, even if I think there is only so much she could do based on money and exposure differences BUT she sure didn't come off as trying to grow the conference and work for exposure and money to upgrade it.
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RE: Liberty & NMSU & FCS members Jacksonville State & SHSU to CUSA
(11-01-2021 08:37 PM)Side.Show.Joe Wrote: Texas already has 12 FBS programs in our state. We do not want or need another. Most G5 programs within the state of Texas will frown upon C-USA if the conference calls up SHSU from the FCS.
Quite frankly we don't care. I bet SHSU would beat UNT if they played Saturday.
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RE: Liberty & NMSU & FCS members Jacksonville State & SHSU to CUSA
(11-01-2021 08:45 PM)Big Buds Wrote: These are the best additions possible. If true nicely done.
Still hoping for NDSU, SDSU and MoSt
I think CUSA should go for 10-12 full members to hedge against future raids.
With 12, they should seek a scheduling agreement with the big 12 and or the MWC
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MUHERD76
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RE: Liberty & NMSU & FCS members Jacksonville State & SHSU to CUSA
(11-01-2021 08:23 PM)WKUYG Wrote: (11-01-2021 08:15 PM)WKUApollo Wrote: (11-01-2021 08:14 PM)BKTopper Wrote: Great adds. Crisis instantly (mostly) avoided. I do wonder who the 8th could be, though?
Technically, WKU & MTSU are still in CUSA and haven't been invited anywhere else.
That right there looks like a decent 9 school conference and with in 3 years the 2 FCS schools would be better than 75% of those that left. Basketball and football
Honestly I would rather build with these schools than join the MAC
Yeah and if you guys can get Missouri State, that would be a great travel partner for WKU and MTSU. And they bring a great history of basketball.
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RE: Liberty & NMSU & FCS members Jacksonville State & SHSU to CUSA
(11-01-2021 08:55 PM)JCMiner Wrote: (11-01-2021 08:37 PM)Side.Show.Joe Wrote: Texas already has 12 FBS programs in our state. We do not want or need another. Most G5 programs within the state of Texas will frown upon C-USA if the conference calls up SHSU from the FCS.
Quite frankly we don't care. I bet SHSU would beat UNT if they played Saturday.
No doubt. And us too.
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RE: Liberty & NMSU & FCS members Jacksonville State & SHSU to CUSA
(11-01-2021 08:23 PM)WKUYG Wrote: (11-01-2021 08:15 PM)WKUApollo Wrote: (11-01-2021 08:14 PM)BKTopper Wrote: Great adds. Crisis instantly (mostly) avoided. I do wonder who the 8th could be, though?
Technically, WKU & MTSU are still in CUSA and haven't been invited anywhere else.
That right there looks like a decent 9 school conference and with in 3 years the 2 FCS schools would be better than 75% of those that left. Basketball and football
Honestly I would rather build with these schools than join the MAC
It isn't a bad lineup all things considered, but I will take the MAC. It doesn't solve the leadership problem, geography problem, or media problem. I hope everything works out for any current C-USA member who remains, but I still hope we get a MAC invite and accept it.
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MUHERD76
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RE: Liberty & NMSU & FCS members Jacksonville State & SHSU to CUSA
(11-01-2021 08:49 PM)Flat Tire 2 Wrote: (11-01-2021 08:45 PM)MUHERD76 Wrote: (11-01-2021 08:38 PM)WKUYG Wrote: Marshall, ODU, Western, Middle, Tech, UTEP, FIU, NMST...
Any 2 or all 4 of the below
Liberty
JMU
Jacksonville St
SHSU
the bottom would have been very small in both Basketball and football and a very good core group of 5 to 6 that could and would be in the top of the G5
Thanks...
Marshall & ODU, I have a feeling in a few short years a few schools will be regretting not sticking it out. Western one of those if we go with the MAC
Nah..... We want to be in an Eastern/Southern league with ODU, JMU, App, Coastal, Georgia Southern etc. That's were are alumni are, its where we recruit and its some of our oldest rivals. No regrets from us. I promise. The real decision is what will you guys will do? If you are having second thoughts, you might want to get on the horn with your AD/President before they sign the dotted line for the MAC.
Most of Marshall alumni are in Florida where we have six alumni chapters. Don't be surprise to see another Florida Alumni Chapter to be starting within a year.
No doubt. Our Alumni base in Myrtle Beach area is huge also. And getting bigger. Wouldn't be surprised to see another one starting in that area at some point as well.
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RE: Liberty & NMSU & FCS members Jacksonville State & SHSU to CUSA
Saw a report out of New Mexico just now saying that NMSU would be football only.
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RE: Liberty & NMSU & FCS members Jacksonville State & SHSU to CUSA
(11-01-2021 08:17 PM)GaSoEagle Wrote: Could this keep MTSU and WKU in CUSA?
I wonder if MTSU and WKU thought they were getting out of 3 million dollar exit fee because CUSA would fold. Now that is not the case and I wonder if it changes their thinking. I'd love to have them back.
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RE: Liberty & NMSU & FCS members Jacksonville State & SHSU to CUSA
(11-01-2021 09:00 PM)MUHERD76 Wrote: (11-01-2021 08:49 PM)Flat Tire 2 Wrote: (11-01-2021 08:45 PM)MUHERD76 Wrote: (11-01-2021 08:38 PM)WKUYG Wrote: Marshall, ODU, Western, Middle, Tech, UTEP, FIU, NMST...
Any 2 or all 4 of the below
Liberty
JMU
Jacksonville St
SHSU
the bottom would have been very small in both Basketball and football and a very good core group of 5 to 6 that could and would be in the top of the G5
Thanks...
Marshall & ODU, I have a feeling in a few short years a few schools will be regretting not sticking it out. Western one of those if we go with the MAC
Nah..... We want to be in an Eastern/Southern league with ODU, JMU, App, Coastal, Georgia Southern etc. That's were are alumni are, its where we recruit and its some of our oldest rivals. No regrets from us. I promise. The real decision is what will you guys will do? If you are having second thoughts, you might want to get on the horn with your AD/President before they sign the dotted line for the MAC.
Most of Marshall alumni are in Florida where we have six alumni chapters. Don't be surprise to see another Florida Alumni Chapter to be starting within a year.
No doubt. Our Alumni base in Myrtle Beach area is huge also. And getting bigger. Wouldn't be surprised to see another one starting in that area at some point as well.
I just moved out of that area. The Myrtle Beach alumni is smaller in number of members than at least four of the Florida chapters. We have no alumni club in the nearby Wilmington area. Just sayin.
Now if you count the alumni who vacation in MB, that is a different story.
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RE: Liberty & NMSU & FCS members Jacksonville State & SHSU to CUSA
(11-01-2021 09:01 PM)Blue Raider Dave Wrote: Saw a report out of New Mexico just now saying that NMSU would be football only.
UALR and UTA for olympic sports?
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RE: Liberty & NMSU & FCS members Jacksonville State & SHSU to CUSA
(11-01-2021 09:01 PM)Blue Raider Dave Wrote: Saw a report out of New Mexico just now saying that NMSU would be football only.
I have a hard time believing that. Will be interesting to follow over the week
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RE: Liberty & NMSU & FCS members Jacksonville State & SHSU to CUSA
(11-01-2021 08:59 PM)freshtop Wrote: (11-01-2021 08:23 PM)WKUYG Wrote: (11-01-2021 08:15 PM)WKUApollo Wrote: (11-01-2021 08:14 PM)BKTopper Wrote: Great adds. Crisis instantly (mostly) avoided. I do wonder who the 8th could be, though?
Technically, WKU & MTSU are still in CUSA and haven't been invited anywhere else.
That right there looks like a decent 9 school conference and with in 3 years the 2 FCS schools would be better than 75% of those that left. Basketball and football
Honestly I would rather build with these schools than join the MAC
It isn't a bad lineup all things considered, but I will take the MAC. It doesn't solve the leadership problem, geography problem, or media problem. I hope everything works out for any current C-USA member who remains, but I still hope we get a MAC invite and accept it.
I have a feeling that a MAC affiliation for WKU may not be such a good thing long-term. Especially considering you guys typically recruit the south and its probably where the majority of your alumni are. I can tell you from experience that those October/November games in Michigan, Northern Ohio, Buffalo etc can be brutal. And I mean brutal cold. Unless you are from that area and are recruiting that area, its hard for a kid in the south to want to commit and play up north. Just saying..
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