(10-29-2021 01:55 PM)iStoopify Wrote:  

(10-29-2021 01:53 PM)Dirty Myrtle Wrote:  

(10-29-2021 01:51 PM)iStoopify Wrote:  

(10-29-2021 01:37 PM)Appvette Wrote:  

(10-29-2021 01:05 PM)Dirty Myrtle Wrote:  Before Chadwell/McCall, we were what, 3 seasons into being in the FBS?? Before that, in about 14 seasons, we'd become a perennial FCS playoff team and made the semi-final I believe the year before moving up. 8 total conference championships in 17 seasons. So where you got that we were ever a bottom feeder is beyond me. Jealous because ya'll had a 100+ year headstart and we've already caught you.

Lol @ Coastal's program being on the same level as App.

Right? Get back to me when you win a legit championship lmao

Ok. and you do the same.

No idea what this means. We won the last two championship games and the two championships before that. You have half of one with an asterisk.

No idea what this means. In 13 seasons in the FCS, we won 7 conference championships. In 5 full seasons in the FBC, we’ve won 1. There are no asterisks on any of our championships. I think what makes you so jealous is how much we’ve been able to accomplish in such a short time, whereas it took your team 77 seasons to accomplish anything of note.

(10-29-2021 02:17 PM)Dirty Myrtle Wrote:  I think what makes you so jealous is how much we’ve been able to accomplish in such a short time, whereas it took your team 77 seasons to accomplish anything of note.

Not my fight, but I want to point out that I've heard that line of reasoning from dozens of fanbases, from FAU to GSU, and a number of other moveups and startups that have a few good seasons. The logic breaks down when you factor in the front loaded nature of exponential gains and how different the college football landscape is today than it was when APP (or Troy for that matter) began playing college football.

Might I add that you're saying the words "accomplish anything of note" to a fan of one of the most storied programs in college football. Nonsense.

Not that Coastal isn't a very good program. They are, but your argument has no basis in reality.

(10-29-2021 02:44 PM)TroyFootball05 Wrote:  but your argument has no basis in reality.

I agree with what you are saying but trying to reason with some of the smack talkers is a futile endeavor.

(10-29-2021 02:44 PM)TroyFootball05 Wrote:  

(10-29-2021 02:17 PM)Dirty Myrtle Wrote:  I think what makes you so jealous is how much we’ve been able to accomplish in such a short time, whereas it took your team 77 seasons to accomplish anything of note.

Not my fight, but I want to point out that I've heard that line of reasoning from dozens of fanbases, from FAU to GSU, and a number of other moveups and startups that have a few good seasons. The logic breaks down when you factor in the front loaded nature of exponential gains and how different the college football landscape is today than it was when APP (or Troy for that matter) began playing college football.

Might I add that you're saying the words "accomplish anything of note" to a fan of one of the most storied programs in college football. Nonsense.

Not that Coastal isn't a very good program. They are, but your argument has no basis in reality.

hmmm. I'm trying to figure out how you think 8 conference championships in 17 seasons is "a few good seasons". Without looking, I wonder if any other team in this conference has won conference championships 48% of the seasons of their existence. Do you think so? Should I check?

(10-29-2021 02:15 PM)JuicyMullet Wrote:  

(10-29-2021 02:10 PM)TheAppalachianState Wrote:  Coastal loses 1 real non-covid game and the attendance is abysmal?! Go figure, can’t wait for App to get their SEC invite

Wut?

App to the SEC, we are a perennial program. Just makes sense imo

(10-29-2021 03:28 PM)Dirty Myrtle Wrote:  

(10-29-2021 02:44 PM)TroyFootball05 Wrote:  

(10-29-2021 02:17 PM)Dirty Myrtle Wrote:  I think what makes you so jealous is how much we’ve been able to accomplish in such a short time, whereas it took your team 77 seasons to accomplish anything of note.

Not my fight, but I want to point out that I've heard that line of reasoning from dozens of fanbases, from FAU to GSU, and a number of other moveups and startups that have a few good seasons. The logic breaks down when you factor in the front loaded nature of exponential gains and how different the college football landscape is today than it was when APP (or Troy for that matter) began playing college football.

Might I add that you're saying the words "accomplish anything of note" to a fan of one of the most storied programs in college football. Nonsense.

Not that Coastal isn't a very good program. They are, but your argument has no basis in reality.

hmmm. I'm trying to figure out how you think 8 conference championships in 17 seasons is "a few good seasons". Without looking, I wonder if any other team in this conference has won conference championships 48% of the seasons of their existence. Do you think so? Should I check?

hmmm. Let me see. When you were winning conference championships, who was winning national championships? Who was it? Should I check? Without looking, how many FBS conference championships does APP STATE have? How many does Coastal have?

When you break it down, its 2 outright FCS conference championships in 17 years and 0 outright FBS conference championships in five years. The shared tiles are impressive, but you guys are not on the level of NDSU or APP, and not the world beaters you make yourselves out to be. Even GS has 6 FCS national championships in 15 years, where Coastal never even made it to the NCG. APP STATE is the flagship program of the Sun Belt until proven otherwise.

I don't think APP or any other Sun Belt fans give a **** about how quickly you were able to cobble together Big South conference championships. Its a troll comment with zero validity.

(10-29-2021 04:16 PM)TroyFootball05 Wrote:  

(10-29-2021 03:28 PM)Dirty Myrtle Wrote:  

(10-29-2021 02:44 PM)TroyFootball05 Wrote:  

(10-29-2021 02:17 PM)Dirty Myrtle Wrote:  I think what makes you so jealous is how much we’ve been able to accomplish in such a short time, whereas it took your team 77 seasons to accomplish anything of note.

Not my fight, but I want to point out that I've heard that line of reasoning from dozens of fanbases, from FAU to GSU, and a number of other moveups and startups that have a few good seasons. The logic breaks down when you factor in the front loaded nature of exponential gains and how different the college football landscape is today than it was when APP (or Troy for that matter) began playing college football.

Might I add that you're saying the words "accomplish anything of note" to a fan of one of the most storied programs in college football. Nonsense.

Not that Coastal isn't a very good program. They are, but your argument has no basis in reality.

hmmm. I'm trying to figure out how you think 8 conference championships in 17 seasons is "a few good seasons". Without looking, I wonder if any other team in this conference has won conference championships 48% of the seasons of their existence. Do you think so? Should I check?

hmmm. Let me see. When you were winning conference championships, who was winning national championships? Who was it? Should I check? Without looking, how many FBS conference championships does APP STATE have? How many does Coastal have?

When you break it down, its 2 outright FCS conference championships in 17 years and 0 outright FBS conference championships in five years. The shared tiles are impressive, but you guys are not on the level of NDSU or APP, and not the world beaters you make yourselves out to be. Even GS has 6 FCS national championships in 15 years, where Coastal never even made it to the NCG. APP STATE is the flagship program of the Sun Belt until proven otherwise.

I don't think APP or any other Sun Belt fans give a **** about how quickly you were able to cobble together Big South conference championships. Its a troll comment with zero validity.

I like this guy......

App State and Troy have always had a healthy respect for each other and it obviously shows through here often. I think Coastal fans sometimes get way ahead of themselves in the respect category, you guys have a good football team right now. However, keep in mind it takes more than one coach or a couple good recruiting classes to maintain that. Each program will have ups and downs but respect and tradition are the two things that will carry it, you guys just haven't built that yet at no fault of your own since it takes time.

(10-29-2021 04:16 PM)TroyFootball05 Wrote:  

(10-29-2021 03:28 PM)Dirty Myrtle Wrote:  

(10-29-2021 02:44 PM)TroyFootball05 Wrote:  

(10-29-2021 02:17 PM)Dirty Myrtle Wrote:  I think what makes you so jealous is how much we’ve been able to accomplish in such a short time, whereas it took your team 77 seasons to accomplish anything of note.

Not my fight, but I want to point out that I've heard that line of reasoning from dozens of fanbases, from FAU to GSU, and a number of other moveups and startups that have a few good seasons. The logic breaks down when you factor in the front loaded nature of exponential gains and how different the college football landscape is today than it was when APP (or Troy for that matter) began playing college football.

Might I add that you're saying the words "accomplish anything of note" to a fan of one of the most storied programs in college football. Nonsense.

Not that Coastal isn't a very good program. They are, but your argument has no basis in reality.

hmmm. I'm trying to figure out how you think 8 conference championships in 17 seasons is "a few good seasons". Without looking, I wonder if any other team in this conference has won conference championships 48% of the seasons of their existence. Do you think so? Should I check?

hmmm. Let me see. When you were winning conference championships, who was winning national championships? Who was it? Should I check? Without looking, how many FBS conference championships does APP STATE have? How many does Coastal have?

When you break it down, its 2 outright FCS conference championships in 17 years and 0 outright FBS conference championships in five years. The shared tiles are impressive, but you guys are not on the level of NDSU or APP, and not the world beaters you make yourselves out to be. Even GS has 6 FCS national championships in 15 years, where Coastal never even made it to the NCG. APP STATE is the flagship program of the Sun Belt until proven otherwise.

I don't think APP or any other Sun Belt fans give a **** about how quickly you were able to cobble together Big South conference championships. Its a troll comment with zero validity.

Yeah, and as I stated already, it took App State 77 seasons to win their first FCS National Championship. We made the playoff semi-final and nearly beat North Dakota State at their place in our 13th season. You really want to argue we wouldn't have won National Championships had we not existed many many decades longer? sure, it's easy to tell yourself when there's no way to prove it. But I challenge you to find a program that has accomplished more than we have in 18 seasons. Keep beating App State on the back for accomplishing those things when they literally had a 100+ year headstart.

(10-29-2021 04:16 PM)TroyFootball05 Wrote:  

(10-29-2021 03:28 PM)Dirty Myrtle Wrote:  

(10-29-2021 02:44 PM)TroyFootball05 Wrote:  

(10-29-2021 02:17 PM)Dirty Myrtle Wrote:  I think what makes you so jealous is how much we’ve been able to accomplish in such a short time, whereas it took your team 77 seasons to accomplish anything of note.

Not my fight, but I want to point out that I've heard that line of reasoning from dozens of fanbases, from FAU to GSU, and a number of other moveups and startups that have a few good seasons. The logic breaks down when you factor in the front loaded nature of exponential gains and how different the college football landscape is today than it was when APP (or Troy for that matter) began playing college football.

Might I add that you're saying the words "accomplish anything of note" to a fan of one of the most storied programs in college football. Nonsense.

Not that Coastal isn't a very good program. They are, but your argument has no basis in reality.

hmmm. I'm trying to figure out how you think 8 conference championships in 17 seasons is "a few good seasons". Without looking, I wonder if any other team in this conference has won conference championships 48% of the seasons of their existence. Do you think so? Should I check?

hmmm. Let me see. When you were winning conference championships, who was winning national championships? Who was it? Should I check? Without looking, how many FBS conference championships does APP STATE have? How many does Coastal have?

When you break it down, its 2 outright FCS conference championships in 17 years and 0 outright FBS conference championships in five years. The shared tiles are impressive, but you guys are not on the level of NDSU or APP, and not the world beaters you make yourselves out to be. Even GS has 6 FCS national championships in 15 years, where Coastal never even made it to the NCG. APP STATE is the flagship program of the Sun Belt until proven otherwise.

I don't think APP or any other Sun Belt fans give a **** about how quickly you were able to cobble together Big South conference championships. Its a troll comment with zero validity.

This has to be the coldest most truthful comment. DAMN SON - JUST PUTTEM IN A BODY BAG!!

Troy05 is a huckle bearer.

These fans hate to admit it but the SunBelt wouldn't be getting this respect without Coastal's efforts either. So I guess you can discredit and put down all you want, but we all know the truth.

(10-29-2021 04:35 PM)Dirty Myrtle Wrote:  But I challenge you to find a program that has accomplished more than we have in 18 seasons.

I can and I will. South Florida founded football in 1997, and was ranked #2 FBS in their 10th season ever, and by their 13th season had beaten 7 FBS Top 25 teams: Louisville (2005), West Virginia (2006, 2007, 2009), Auburn (2007), Kansas (2008) and Florida State (2009). Now you tell me, how does a handful of Big South championships where you only won two of them outright have more notoriety than what South Florida did in a shorter amount of time? you know, since you seem to be obsessed with doing thing quickly.

(10-29-2021 04:58 PM)TealNation Wrote:  These fans hate to admit it but the SunBelt wouldn't be getting this respect without Coastal's efforts either. So I guess you can discredit and put down all you want, but we all know the truth.

Coastal plays a large part in our conference's perception, and we're glad to have them. But many of your fans are full of it. When you wanted to cancel a game last season that could help us get bowl eligible, it was the ultimate **** *** to Troy fans. Many of you guys only care about Coastal, and the rest of the conference be damned. When players like Teddy Gallagher send cocky DMs to opposing QBs before they even have a chance to play a down, it reveals something about the culture of Coastal Football. Now you can say it's not all fans and players, and it's probably not even most, but it's enough to piss a guy like me off, who almost never gets into the weeds on this board.

(10-29-2021 04:58 PM)TroyFootball05 Wrote:  

(10-29-2021 04:35 PM)Dirty Myrtle Wrote:  But I challenge you to find a program that has accomplished more than we have in 18 seasons.

I can and I will. South Florida founded football in 1997, and was ranked #2 FBS in their 10th season ever, and by their 13th season had beaten 7 FBS Top 25 teams: Louisville (2005), West Virginia (2006, 2007, 2009), Auburn (2007), Kansas (2008) and Florida State (2009). Now you tell me, how does a handful of Big South championships where you only won two of them outright have more notoriety than what South Florida did in a shorter amount of time? you know, since you seem to be obsessed with doing thing quickly.

Ok, so by their 13th season, USF had beaten 7 ranked FBS teams. Ok. So last year, our 5th season in FBS, we beat 2 ranked FBS teams. So you’re saying it’s unlikely that in 6.5 more seasons, we won’t beat 5 more ranked teams??? We’ll see, but I’d say it’d be pretty ridiculous to bet against that happening.

(10-29-2021 04:58 PM)TealNation Wrote:  These fans hate to admit it but the SunBelt wouldn't be getting this respect without Coastal's efforts either. So I guess you can discredit and put down all you want, but we all know the truth.

You better thank your grandfather - Troy, your daddy - App, and uncle ULL and Ark St for building a foundation first whipper snapper. Now run to the cellar and bring me some bourbon.

(10-29-2021 05:10 PM)TroyFootball05 Wrote:  

(10-29-2021 04:58 PM)TealNation Wrote:  These fans hate to admit it but the SunBelt wouldn't be getting this respect without Coastal's efforts either. So I guess you can discredit and put down all you want, but we all know the truth.

Coastal plays a large part in our conference's perception, and we're glad to have them. But many of your fans are full of it. When you wanted to cancel a game last season that could help us get bowl eligible, it was the ultimate **** *** to Troy fans. Many of you guys only care about Coastal, and the rest of the conference be damned. When players like Teddy Gallagher send cocky DMs to opposing QBs before they even have a chance to play a down, it reveals something about the culture of Coastal Football. Now you can say it's not all fans and players, and it's probably not even most, but it's enough to piss a guy like me off, who almost never gets into the weeds on this board.

That’s a total farce. You postponed the game for Covid + “other injuries”. No other team in the country was allowed to use Covid as an excuse to cover for “other injuries”. Then, we were forced to play you on a date that all 10 ADs AND Gill had agreed would be a bye week so the 2 CCG teams could avoid Covid. So your team was allowed to post pone a game for reasons that never should have been allowed. And then your team was allowed to force us to play a game that was totally meaningless, and never should have been played.

So to give a five win Troy team a chance to become bowl eligible, we should sacrifice our bye week, to play y’all, while Louisiana sat at home and prepared for us for an extra week. That is a ridiculous argument you were trying to make

(10-29-2021 05:12 PM)Dirty Myrtle Wrote:  

(10-29-2021 04:58 PM)TroyFootball05 Wrote:  

(10-29-2021 04:35 PM)Dirty Myrtle Wrote:  But I challenge you to find a program that has accomplished more than we have in 18 seasons.

I can and I will. South Florida founded football in 1997, and was ranked #2 FBS in their 10th season ever, and by their 13th season had beaten 7 FBS Top 25 teams: Louisville (2005), West Virginia (2006, 2007, 2009), Auburn (2007), Kansas (2008) and Florida State (2009). Now you tell me, how does a handful of Big South championships where you only won two of them outright have more notoriety than what South Florida did in a shorter amount of time? you know, since you seem to be obsessed with doing thing quickly.

Ok, so by their 13th season, USF had beaten 7 ranked FBS teams. Ok. So last year, our 5th season in FBS, we beat 2 ranked FBS teams. So you’re saying it’s unlikely that in 6.5 more seasons, we won’t beat 5 more ranked teams??? We’ll see, but I’d say it’d be pretty ridiculous to bet against that happening.

It all goes in cycles. Ask Ark St and Troy fans. Enjoy you’re time at the top.


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(10-29-2021 05:12 PM)Dirty Myrtle Wrote:  

(10-29-2021 04:58 PM)TroyFootball05 Wrote:  

(10-29-2021 04:35 PM)Dirty Myrtle Wrote:  But I challenge you to find a program that has accomplished more than we have in 18 seasons.

I can and I will. South Florida founded football in 1997, and was ranked #2 FBS in their 10th season ever, and by their 13th season had beaten 7 FBS Top 25 teams: Louisville (2005), West Virginia (2006, 2007, 2009), Auburn (2007), Kansas (2008) and Florida State (2009). Now you tell me, how does a handful of Big South championships where you only won two of them outright have more notoriety than what South Florida did in a shorter amount of time? you know, since you seem to be obsessed with doing thing quickly.

Ok, so by their 13th season, USF had beaten 7 ranked FBS teams. Ok. So last year, our 5th season in FBS, we beat 2 ranked FBS teams. So you’re saying it’s unlikely that in 6.5 more seasons, we won’t beat 5 more ranked teams??? We’ll see, but I’d say it’d be pretty ridiculous to bet against that happening.

I want you to re-read what you just wrote, and ask yourself why I've been saying what I've been saying.

They did all of that in their first 13 seasons, when you didn't beat your first ranked FBS team until last season. This is your argument, and you don't even realize it. You are arguing with two versions of yourself.

Ok, so you want to change the rules and not use your time in FCS. I heard that, and I respect that. Now ask yourself, in the five years you've been FBS, how many conference titles do you have, and how many did APP have in their first five years?

Here's one for the road. How many conference titles did Troy have in their first five years in the Sun Belt? How many does Coastal have?

(10-29-2021 05:18 PM)Dirty Myrtle Wrote:  

(10-29-2021 05:10 PM)TroyFootball05 Wrote:  

(10-29-2021 04:58 PM)TealNation Wrote:  These fans hate to admit it but the SunBelt wouldn't be getting this respect without Coastal's efforts either. So I guess you can discredit and put down all you want, but we all know the truth.

Coastal plays a large part in our conference's perception, and we're glad to have them. But many of your fans are full of it. When you wanted to cancel a game last season that could help us get bowl eligible, it was the ultimate **** *** to Troy fans. Many of you guys only care about Coastal, and the rest of the conference be damned. When players like Teddy Gallagher send cocky DMs to opposing QBs before they even have a chance to play a down, it reveals something about the culture of Coastal Football. Now you can say it's not all fans and players, and it's probably not even most, but it's enough to piss a guy like me off, who almost never gets into the weeds on this board.

That’s a total farce. You postponed the game for Covid + “other injuries”. No other team in the country was allowed to use Covid as an excuse to cover for “other injuries”. Then, we were forced to play you on a date that all 10 ADs AND Gill had agreed would be a bye week so the 2 CCG teams could avoid Covid. So your team was allowed to post pone a game for reasons that never should have been allowed. And then your team was allowed to force us to play a game that was totally meaningless, and never should have been played.

So to give a five win Troy team a chance to become bowl eligible, we should sacrifice our bye week, to play y’all, while Louisiana sat at home and prepared for us for an extra week. That is a ridiculous argument you were trying to make

It isn't a farce. We had no offensive linemen. Yes, it was COVID plus injuries, but had COVID not been a factor we would have had enough to play. Many other teams did the exact same thing, they just didn't call it that. You try playing a game with an entire position group out, especially one responsible for keeping the QB from getting seriously injured.

Let me reiterate, when you say "a game that was totally meaningless" and by your own words "to give a five win Troy team a chance to become bowl eligible", and you still don't understand why conference mates have a bad taste in their mouths toward some Coastal fans, I can do nothing for you. I really don't know how else to say it.

(10-29-2021 05:30 PM)TroyFootball05 Wrote:  

(10-29-2021 05:18 PM)Dirty Myrtle Wrote:  

(10-29-2021 05:10 PM)TroyFootball05 Wrote:  

(10-29-2021 04:58 PM)TealNation Wrote:  These fans hate to admit it but the SunBelt wouldn't be getting this respect without Coastal's efforts either. So I guess you can discredit and put down all you want, but we all know the truth.

Coastal plays a large part in our conference's perception, and we're glad to have them. But many of your fans are full of it. When you wanted to cancel a game last season that could help us get bowl eligible, it was the ultimate **** *** to Troy fans. Many of you guys only care about Coastal, and the rest of the conference be damned. When players like Teddy Gallagher send cocky DMs to opposing QBs before they even have a chance to play a down, it reveals something about the culture of Coastal Football. Now you can say it's not all fans and players, and it's probably not even most, but it's enough to piss a guy like me off, who almost never gets into the weeds on this board.

That’s a total farce. You postponed the game for Covid + “other injuries”. No other team in the country was allowed to use Covid as an excuse to cover for “other injuries”. Then, we were forced to play you on a date that all 10 ADs AND Gill had agreed would be a bye week so the 2 CCG teams could avoid Covid. So your team was allowed to post pone a game for reasons that never should have been allowed. And then your team was allowed to force us to play a game that was totally meaningless, and never should have been played.

So to give a five win Troy team a chance to become bowl eligible, we should sacrifice our bye week, to play y’all, while Louisiana sat at home and prepared for us for an extra week. That is a ridiculous argument you were trying to make

It isn't a farce. We had no offensive linemen. Yes, it was COVID plus injuries, but had COVID not been a factor we would have had enough to play. Many other teams did the exact same thing, they just didn't call it that. You try playing a game with an entire position group out, especially one responsible for keeping the QB from getting seriously injured.

Let me reiterate, when you say "a game that was totally meaningless" and by your own words "to give a five win Troy team a chance to become bowl eligible", and you still don't understand why conference mates have a bad taste in their mouths toward some Coastal fans, I can do nothing for you. I really don't know how else to say it.

Name one other team that was allowed to use “other injuries” as an excuse to postpone games. Grayson was out of the game last year vs Georgia Southern, should we have postponed for “other injuries”???

Then, you completely skip over the FACT that the week before the CCG was NOT meant to be a rescheduling week, or a week for a Troy to become bowl eligible. It was AGREED TO by Gill and ALL 10 SCHOOLS that it would be a bye week for the 2 division winners. Gill and Troy were selfishly allowed to thumb their noses at this agreement to force Coastal to play a game that had NO BEARING on the conference outcome. It was decided, sorry you weren’t eligible for a bowl, should’ve played harder. But we’re supposed to give up our bye week and give Louisiana an extra week to prepare because YOU weren’t bowl eligible and wanted to postpone a game for “other injuries”???

That ^^^ is what I’ll never understand about Louisiana fans’ animosity towards Coastal… they blame CCU for the CCG cancellation when who they SHOULD have been blaming was Gill and Troy for forcing Coastal to play a game day that everyone agreed would be a bye week for division winners. That’s fact.