(10-28-2021 10:57 AM)All4One Wrote:  

(10-28-2021 10:54 AM)Saint3333 Wrote:  Personal insults are a nice touch, wonder why you guys can't make friends.

Is this how you always react when someone tells you difficult truths.

I'm still waiting to know what actions were allegedly taken? App State hasn't been 1-A for the length of time you specified, so it's safe to say whatever your officials were told, jt was very likely hearsay with a 100% Lafayette slant.

Lafayette slants! Now that’s all we need, to have another thread about the great food in lafayette! I personally like my slants with only a hint of roux and of course never any tomato sauce, and with a side of good boudin.

(10-28-2021 10:48 AM)FrankyP Wrote:  Fun fact: Teacher’s College, Columbia University is officially part of Columbia University.

Then why did he change it when called out on it? How about the time he pushed for a minimum budget in the Sunbelt to be $25 million and only dropped it when Dr. Bruno at ULM agreed to acquiesce to calling ULL UL? That just wreaks of sleaziness right there.

(10-28-2021 11:01 AM)pilot172000 Wrote:  

(10-28-2021 10:54 AM)Saint3333 Wrote:  Personal insults are a nice touch, wonder why you guys can't make friends.

Is this how you always react when someone tells you difficult truths.

They sure do make me feel better. I don't want to be your friend. I want you to go away. Difficult truths are part of life. WE know who we are and the path that is in front of us. It is what it is. However the constant barrage of Sunbelt posters flooding our message board with constant insults and mischaracterizations of who Tech is gets on my last nerve. We can't even follow a thread without you termites gumming it up with the same ole propaganda. As a good Christian, I am obligated to apologize for the name calling. That doesn't mean I didn't mean it, just that I shouldn't have said it.

You mentioned the SBC would have been a better option than Indy, I commented that it could have been if your school treated western member better. This remains true. I've not been rude in any post only relaying discussions that occurred. Sorry you feel I'm at fault for some reason.

(10-28-2021 11:05 AM)Saint3333 Wrote:  

(10-28-2021 11:01 AM)pilot172000 Wrote:  

(10-28-2021 10:54 AM)Saint3333 Wrote:  Personal insults are a nice touch, wonder why you guys can't make friends.

Is this how you always react when someone tells you difficult truths.

They sure do make me feel better. I don't want to be your friend. I want you to go away. Difficult truths are part of life. WE know who we are and the path that is in front of us. It is what it is. However the constant barrage of Sunbelt posters flooding our message board with constant insults and mischaracterizations of who Tech is gets on my last nerve. We can't even follow a thread without you termites gumming it up with the same ole propaganda. As a good Christian, I am obligated to apologize for the name calling. That doesn't mean I didn't mean it, just that I shouldn't have said it.

You mentioned the SBC would have been a better option than Indy, I commented that it could have been if your school treated western member better. This remains true. I've not been rude in any post only relaying discussions that occurred. Sorry you feel I'm at fault for some reason.

You are making an accusation against Tech that we mistreated Western Sunbelt members which is an outright lie. The Tech administration has a very good relationship with both ULL and ULM administrations. The hatred is purely fan driven and started when Tech chose to join the WAC instead of the Sunbelt. You are perpetuating a lie and I take that very personally. Do you like it when people spread negative lies about Appy State? Surely not.

Sorry. But I just can’t let that go. And it’s a big part why I asked my earlier question. Why do you think the ltu has a ‘good relationship’ with UL? What are you basing that on? Don’t you think that Tommy m’s presser might have put just a slight damper on that rapport? And also affected ULM and the SBC? Unless there has been attempts on ltu’s part to walk that back privately that we’re not aware of, but based on your non-answer and everything we know about this, no attempt was/has been made to clean up that mess.

(10-28-2021 11:17 AM)FrankyP Wrote:  Sorry. But I just can’t let that go. And it’s a big part why I asked my earlier question. Why do you think the ltu has a ‘good relationship’ with UL? What are you basing that on? Don’t you think that Tommy m’s presser might have put just a slight damper on that rapport? And also affected ULM and the SBC? Unless there has been attempts on ltu’s part to walk that back privately that we’re not aware of, but based on your non-answer and everything we know about this, no attempt was/has been made to clean up that mess.

Tommy's presser is of little consequence. He was half way out the door. He literally left a few months later. I didn't like Tommy and many here were the same way. It was a sound byte that has been playing in your head ever since. I know first hand that all the Presidents in the UL system get along well. ULL actually needs Tech right now to get that 65 million dollars you need to borrow. So yes, they do have a good relationship. You keep hanging yourself up on this and you don't see the full picture.

The administrations of those schools at a minimum weren't willing to fight for LA Tech to be associated with them when compared to an FCS program four states away. We can all agree with that based upon the results. Nothing I've posted is a lie based on the conversations I've had, but you aren't going to believe that, so this is my last post on the subject.

I sat in the room on the FBS study committee when our AD, Charlie Cobb, referred to the SBC as a glorified FCS conference in 2012. I cringed then as I knew that may be our best option. I'm glad we were able to walk that back and repair those relationships. Sometimes people say stupid stuff and later find out they may need them.

We may need WKU, MTSU, etc. some day and I hope your schools make the best of what remains. Good luck repairing CUSA.

(10-28-2021 11:17 AM)FrankyP Wrote:  Sorry. But I just can’t let that go. And it’s a big part why I asked my earlier question. Why do you think the ltu has a ‘good relationship’ with UL? What are you basing that on? Don’t you think that Tommy m’s presser might have put just a slight damper on that rapport? And also affected ULM and the SBC? Unless there has been attempts on ltu’s part to walk that back privately that we’re not aware of, but based on your non-answer and everything we know about this, no attempt was/has been made to clean up that mess.

Franky, I can assure it was communicated to Savoie and Bruno "there's a reason he isn't here anymore". Don't trust everything Jay Walker says as whole truth. His job is to rile the fanbase up and put a Vermillion spin on everything.

I will also second a comment from another thread that Don's > Billy's.

Well I agree that Dr Savoie no doubt has a cordial and professional rapport with all the ULS schools. I would expect noting less. But that definitely does not mean they have the kind of ‘good’ relationship that you’re implying. And please stop trying to make Tommy m just about me, or shrug it off that he was leaving, or now gone. The sooner you guys can face up to the damage that was done by his remarks the better off you will be. Especially during the very difficult situation you guys are in right now.

(10-28-2021 11:27 AM)SICemDAWGS! Wrote:  

(10-28-2021 11:17 AM)FrankyP Wrote:  Sorry. But I just can’t let that go. And it’s a big part why I asked my earlier question. Why do you think the ltu has a ‘good relationship’ with UL? What are you basing that on? Don’t you think that Tommy m’s presser might have put just a slight damper on that rapport? And also affected ULM and the SBC? Unless there has been attempts on ltu’s part to walk that back privately that we’re not aware of, but based on your non-answer and everything we know about this, no attempt was/has been made to clean up that mess.

Franky, I can assure it was communicated to Savoie and Bruno "there's a reason he isn't here anymore". Don't trust everything Jay Walker says as whole truth. His job is to rile the fanbase up and put a Vermillion spin on everything.

I will also second a comment from another thread that Don's > Billy's.

Hey sickem. So you can confirm that there was an attempt to clean up after Tommy’s presser was released? And lol Jay has never spoken about such a meeting or lack thereof at least not that I’m aware of.

Yeah Dons is waaay better than Billy’s. There is also billeauds in Broussard that is high on my list and that’s right in your neck of the woods.

(10-28-2021 11:26 AM)Saint3333 Wrote:  The administrations of those schools at a minimum weren't willing to fight for LA Tech to be associated with them when compared to an FCS program four states away. We can all agree with that based upon the results. Nothing I've posted is a lie based on the conversations I've had, but you aren't going to believe that, so this is my last post on the subject.

I sat in the room on the FBS study committee when our AD, Charlie Cobb, referred to the SBC as a glorified FCS conference in 2012. I cringed then as I knew that may be our best option. I'm glad we were able to walk that back and repair those relationships. Sometimes people say stupid stuff and later find out they may need them.

We may need WKU, MTSU, etc. some day and I hope your schools make the best of what remains. Good luck repairing CUSA.

Not sure what you are talking about in the first paragraph, so I can't speak to that. You don't know spit about Tech or Louisiana politics involved here.

(10-28-2021 11:29 AM)FrankyP Wrote:  Well I agree that Dr Savoie no doubt has a cordial and professional rapport with all the ULS schools. I would expect noting less. But that definitely does not mean they have the kind of ‘good’ relationship that you’re implying. And please stop trying to make Tommy m just about me, or shrug it off that he was leaving, or now gone. The sooner you guys can face up to the damage that was done by his remarks the better off you will be. Especially during the very difficult situation you guys are in right now.

I know for a fact that both ULM and ULL presidents are willing to support Tech getting into the Sunbelt if and when they decide to go to 16. The relationship between the three is very good as they need each other to navigate the UL system together. Tech is regrouping but not in unfamiliar territory. We do choose our own path and it sometimes comes with pitfalls. We have no major regrets on the matter. I personally did not like what Tommy said as things like that should never come out of Administrator's mouths. There is a reason he took a #2 job somewhere else. It is one thing for fans like us to say stupid stuff but for him it was wrong. I hate ULL and am free to bash them all I want, but our Administration has to be diligent in maintaining relationships inside the UL system.

(10-28-2021 11:34 AM)FrankyP Wrote:  

(10-28-2021 11:27 AM)SICemDAWGS! Wrote:  

(10-28-2021 11:17 AM)FrankyP Wrote:  Sorry. But I just can’t let that go. And it’s a big part why I asked my earlier question. Why do you think the ltu has a ‘good relationship’ with UL? What are you basing that on? Don’t you think that Tommy m’s presser might have put just a slight damper on that rapport? And also affected ULM and the SBC? Unless there has been attempts on ltu’s part to walk that back privately that we’re not aware of, but based on your non-answer and everything we know about this, no attempt was/has been made to clean up that mess.

Franky, I can assure it was communicated to Savoie and Bruno "there's a reason he isn't here anymore". Don't trust everything Jay Walker says as whole truth. His job is to rile the fanbase up and put a Vermillion spin on everything.

I will also second a comment from another thread that Don's > Billy's.

Hey sickem. So you can confirm that there was an attempt to clean up after Tommy’s presser was released? And lol Jay has never spoken about such a meeting or lack thereof at least not that I’m aware of.

Yeah Dons is waaay better than Billy’s. There is also billeauds in Broussard that is high on my list and that’s right in your neck of the woods.

I was not in the room or zoom call but was told by someone who would know no more than secondhand that it was addressed and that the presidents and Jim were content.

A lot of stuff I see come from Jay I have to roll my eyes at, and I know on RP he is seen as the end all be all and as a direct line to the administration, so apologies for assuming that's where it came from.

Billeauds isn't bad, but I prefer NuNu's locally.

Thanks sicem, that is the first I hear of this happening. Lord knows that must not have been easy but it certainly was necessary.

But we gotta disagree about Nunu’s. They’re not bad but I’ve always felt they were overrated. But they have a loyal following for sure.

Peace out.

(10-28-2021 11:34 AM)FrankyP Wrote:  

(10-28-2021 11:27 AM)SICemDAWGS! Wrote:  

(10-28-2021 11:17 AM)FrankyP Wrote:  Sorry. But I just can’t let that go. And it’s a big part why I asked my earlier question. Why do you think the ltu has a ‘good relationship’ with UL? What are you basing that on? Don’t you think that Tommy m’s presser might have put just a slight damper on that rapport? And also affected ULM and the SBC? Unless there has been attempts on ltu’s part to walk that back privately that we’re not aware of, but based on your non-answer and everything we know about this, no attempt was/has been made to clean up that mess.

Franky, I can assure it was communicated to Savoie and Bruno "there's a reason he isn't here anymore". Don't trust everything Jay Walker says as whole truth. His job is to rile the fanbase up and put a Vermillion spin on everything.

I will also second a comment from another thread that Don's > Billy's.

Hey sickem. So you can confirm that there was an attempt to clean up after Tommy’s presser was released? And lol Jay has never spoken about such a meeting or lack thereof at least not that I’m aware of.

Yeah Dons is waaay better than Billy’s. There is also billeauds in Broussard that is high on my list and that’s right in your neck of the woods.

Whoa whoa whoa whoa...stop right there.

Who the hell do you think you are sharing Billeauds with anyone? That's supposed to be a secret.

Every time I go back to Lafayette I get a case of seasoning and a sack of boudin. We literally put the seasoning on everything.

I should neg rep you for that, you jerk

(10-28-2021 10:43 AM)FrankyP Wrote:  Ok. Yet another non-answer to a simple question and instead just more BS attempts thrown out to try to deflect from the issue.

And you were my last hope in getting an answer to that question. We can now state unequivocally that no one from ruston has ever tried to walk-back the words from that presser. That means it was and remains the official stance of ltu. So at least we know that when it someone tries to shrug it off as just something the former ad said we can all know that is factually incorrect.

https://csnbbs.com/thread-899877-post-17...id17781550

He caught plenty of heat for it. Like I said, I felt like it should have been public but if you think that the Presidents of the UL System are going to harbour bad blood of the like you see on this board you are fooling yourself. 

Tech getting left out at the presidential level has much less to do with what you all are talking about and more to do with App/Marshall/ODU wanting to regionalize. 

"Dr. Reneau, what if your consultant tells you the best place for your school to be is the Sun Belt?
Reneau: "I'd fire him and hire another consultant."

That was 2001. Tech's song never changed. Tommy Boy was just the icing on the cake.

Hard for anyone to survive as an Independent unless they are religious or military because they may have more of a national interest/following:

BYU = Mormon
Notre Dame = Catholic
Liberty - Protestant

The other Independents haven't done well, but they are also schools no one literally wants (New Mex. State, UConn, UMass)

(10-28-2021 02:37 PM)BirdofParadise Wrote:  "Dr. Reneau, what if your consultant tells you the best place for your school to be is the Sun Belt?
Reneau: "I'd fire him and hire another consultant."

That was 2001. Tech's song never changed. Tommy Boy was just the icing on the cake.

In 2001 the Sun Belt had no identity. Most schools would refuse to join a brand new conference especially with the teams the Suck Belt had at that time. Middle Tennessee was largely unproven after their first 1-A season in 1999 while New Mexico State and Idaho were simply abysmal for years prior. Louisiana-Monroe wasn't any good, and UL-Lafayette under Jerry Baldwin and Arkansas State under Joe Hollis were two of the worst teams in the entire country after the Big West dissolved 1-A football after the 2000 season.

Football was driving the Belch additions in 2001. And the WAC--a far better football conference--invited Louisiana Tech.

If this is the worst anyone has on La Tech or a video of the former AD recommending teams leave the Belch for CUSA, then that's pretty petty.

(10-28-2021 11:05 AM)Saint3333 Wrote:  

(10-28-2021 11:01 AM)pilot172000 Wrote:  

(10-28-2021 10:54 AM)Saint3333 Wrote:  Personal insults are a nice touch, wonder why you guys can't make friends.

Is this how you always react when someone tells you difficult truths.

They sure do make me feel better. I don't want to be your friend. I want you to go away. Difficult truths are part of life. WE know who we are and the path that is in front of us. It is what it is. However the constant barrage of Sunbelt posters flooding our message board with constant insults and mischaracterizations of who Tech is gets on my last nerve. We can't even follow a thread without you termites gumming it up with the same ole propaganda. As a good Christian, I am obligated to apologize for the name calling. That doesn't mean I didn't mean it, just that I shouldn't have said it.

You mentioned the SBC would have been a better option than Indy, I commented that it could have been if your school treated western member better. This remains true. I've not been rude in any post only relaying discussions that occurred. Sorry you feel I'm at fault for some reason.

(10-28-2021 02:37 PM)BirdofParadise Wrote:  "Dr. Reneau, what if your consultant tells you the best place for your school to be is the Sun Belt?
Reneau: "I'd fire him and hire another consultant."

That was 2001. Tech's song never changed. Tommy Boy was just the icing on the cake.

In 2001 he was right about that. That consultant would have needed to be fired. In 2021 said consultant would be correct (but stating the obvious, so maybe you fire him anyway).