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RE: The Farewell Judy McLeod thread
(10-25-2021 08:10 PM)mturn017 Wrote:  There was the photo in the Jeep and uh…..







Video find credit goes to Engblazr

https://csnbbs.com/thread-929546-post-17...id17636870



Wow. I did an image search, wanting to see if you she looked like one of the wives at the country club in Caddyshack 2, since all the Bahamas talk in the interview gave that impression.

Woof. 3/10 would not image search again. One of the top image results? Her on SportsCenter being lauded as the first female FBS commish. Maybe CUSA should have hired for competence instead of possession of ovaries.

Also she has the Jack Nicholson Joker smile.

[Image: AOTY-MacLeod-Twitter2.jpg]
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RE: The Farewell Judy McLeod thread
those are some horror stories.... we won't miss this guy at all (warning - OT but same situation)

- sold himself as a basketball ace from the BigEast, but the league has fallen back
- seems to know almost nothing about football
- moved us onto the absolute worst streaming platform imaginable (FloSports - JMU/Delaware game replay from last Saturday...still waiting)
- and he suited up for practice...total Dukakis moment...

Adios Joey D!

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RE: The Farewell Judy McLeod thread
(10-25-2021 10:34 PM)Eagleyed Wrote:  Oh and one more. A couple of years ago Conference USA lost the contract to the Battle for Atlantis. Always had a bunch of really good schools in it and we were an auto bid. Never said what we got in return for us voluntarily getting off of it, but I know whatever it was it wasn't good enough. Contracts that force the big boys to play on neutral ground with you is worth almost any price.

I’m curious what happened here because I don’t think it was ever reported, just that one year the B4A field was leaked and everyone was like “huh, no CUSA team this year, wonder if it’s a onetime thing or if it’s permanent.” Turned out to be permanent. Did the contract come up and the parties couldn’t agree to terms? Did B4A cut it early after seeing the Maui Invitational push Chaminade to every-other-year status? Did we pull out because there wasn’t enough benefit to sending a team to (often) get swept by better competition? It would have been nice to get some closure on that. Oh well.

The one thing I will say in MacLeod’s defense is that her visit to ODU probably got us in FBS. Per a comprehensive story in the local paper, ODU was rejected in casual communications by a number of conferences, and CUSA already had Middle Tennessee, Western Kentucky and Florida Atlantic clamoring for the last spot, but eventually Britt Banowsky sent her to Norfolk on a fact-finding mission:

Quote: Perhaps the most important voice to be heard during those 6-1/2 weeks belonged to Judy MacLeod, executive associate commissioner of C-USA, who made an 18-hour visit to Norfolk on April 23.
She came, as she put it, "under the cover of darkness," on a scouting mission. If she liked what she saw, C-USA Commissioner Britt Banowsky would visit and negotiations would continue. If she didn't, ODU presumably would remain in the CAA.
MacLeod had dinner with Harnage and Selig, and the next day toured ODU's facilities and listened to a presentation from Selig and Broderick.
"I knew the athletic history," she said of ODU. "But until you get there and walk around and get a feel for things, it's hard to judge. You always have questions going in, but every question I asked had already been thoroughly contemplated. There was a plan in place. The commitment to athletics was evident from the facilities and their plans.
"I was very impressed."
Banowsky said that when MacLeod returned to conference headquarters in Irving, Texas, she was enthusiastic: "ODU is pretty cool," he said she told him.

Also some credit to USM’s president at the time, Martha Saunders, for encouraging ODU to reach out to CUSA in the first place.

History won’t remember MacLeod especially fondly but I agree with those who said that she was holding a bad hand dealt by Banowsky, particularly with regards to the media deal and ESPN **** up. I don’t know that anyone could have helped CUSA at that point.

Her biggest sin, I think, was being a private person in a position that benefits greatly from public communication. Fans wanted her to be as combative and forward as Aresco over at the AAC, but what did he do? Same thing as Banowsky/MacLeod — lost a bunch of his best programs, replaced them with market-driven gambles — but also made bombastic public comments about P6 and making runs at Big 12 schools and the top MWC schools. They all failed badly, but at least on the CUSA board people liked that he threw stuff against the wall in the public eye. I don’t see it myself but perception goes a long way.

The Marshall/Rice thing was definitely BS, but at least it gave us this:

[Image: xRw6cgBLbCH7C9jDlMo84569SzDMmGHc6xCk53Yg...426e07325a]
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RE: The Farewell Judy McLeod thread
(10-26-2021 09:56 AM)Cyniclone Wrote:  
(10-25-2021 10:34 PM)Eagleyed Wrote:  Oh and one more. A couple of years ago Conference USA lost the contract to the Battle for Atlantis. Always had a bunch of really good schools in it and we were an auto bid. Never said what we got in return for us voluntarily getting off of it, but I know whatever it was it wasn't good enough. Contracts that force the big boys to play on neutral ground with you is worth almost any price.

I’m curious what happened here because I don’t think it was ever reported, just that one year the B4A field was leaked and everyone was like “huh, no CUSA team this year, wonder if it’s a onetime thing or if it’s permanent.” Turned out to be permanent. Did the contract come up and the parties couldn’t agree to terms? Did B4A cut it early after seeing the Maui Invitational push Chaminade to every-other-year status? Did we pull out because there wasn’t enough benefit to sending a team to (often) get swept by better competition? It would have been nice to get some closure on that. Oh well.

The one thing I will say in MacLeod’s defense is that her visit to ODU probably got us in FBS. Per a comprehensive story in the local paper, ODU was rejected in casual communications by a number of conferences, and CUSA already had Middle Tennessee, Western Kentucky and Florida Atlantic clamoring for the last spot, but eventually Britt Banowsky sent her to Norfolk on a fact-finding mission:

Quote: Perhaps the most important voice to be heard during those 6-1/2 weeks belonged to Judy MacLeod, executive associate commissioner of C-USA, who made an 18-hour visit to Norfolk on April 23.
She came, as she put it, "under the cover of darkness," on a scouting mission. If she liked what she saw, C-USA Commissioner Britt Banowsky would visit and negotiations would continue. If she didn't, ODU presumably would remain in the CAA.
MacLeod had dinner with Harnage and Selig, and the next day toured ODU's facilities and listened to a presentation from Selig and Broderick.
"I knew the athletic history," she said of ODU. "But until you get there and walk around and get a feel for things, it's hard to judge. You always have questions going in, but every question I asked had already been thoroughly contemplated. There was a plan in place. The commitment to athletics was evident from the facilities and their plans.
"I was very impressed."
Banowsky said that when MacLeod returned to conference headquarters in Irving, Texas, she was enthusiastic: "ODU is pretty cool," he said she told him.

Also some credit to USM’s president at the time, Martha Saunders, for encouraging ODU to reach out to CUSA in the first place.

History won’t remember MacLeod especially fondly but I agree with those who said that she was holding a bad hand dealt by Banowsky, particularly with regards to the media deal and ESPN **** up. I don’t know that anyone could have helped CUSA at that point.

Her biggest sin, I think, was being a private person in a position that benefits greatly from public communication. Fans wanted her to be as combative and forward as Aresco over at the AAC, but what did he do? Same thing as Banowsky/MacLeod — lost a bunch of his best programs, replaced them with market-driven gambles — but also made bombastic public comments about P6 and making runs at Big 12 schools and the top MWC schools. They all failed badly, but at least on the CUSA board people liked that he threw stuff against the wall in the public eye. I don’t see it myself but perception goes a long way.

The Marshall/Rice thing was definitely BS, but at least it gave us this:

[Image: xRw6cgBLbCH7C9jDlMo84569SzDMmGHc6xCk53Yg...426e07325a]

It's not just that. It was so many things. The decline of CUSA while other conferences got better. It was losing Atlantis with no explanation and the contract was rock solid. What did we get for her backing out? I guess we will never know. The bowls we got, got worse under her. I don't care if it wasn't ESPN she should still have been able to negotiate a media deal that went up not down. Like every single other conference managed to do even FCS conferences. The fact she almost never interviewed and when she did the only time she ever got excited was when she talked about the SEC. It was what she did to keep Marshall from hosting. What she almost did to keep USM from hosting. The list is endless.
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Message from Ms. Judy 10-20-2021:

https://conferenceusa.com/news/2021/10/2...cleod.aspx
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Rumor has it that Commissioner Macleod has been spotted on the campus of UAM (University of Alaska Moosejaw.) She is meeting with Dean Wormer about the possibility of upgrading the schools indoor club flag football team to FBS. She told Dean Wormer that she feels like UAM would be a perfect fit in C-USA. When Dean Wormer pointed out that outdoor sports are not popular in subzero temperatures, Commissioner Macleod was prepared with a presentation lauding the advantage of dome stadiums like the Kibbe Dome. Commissioner Macleod is also scheduled to visit UDH (University of Dead Horse) while in Alaska. She says she is determined to find replacements for the teams that are leaving C-USA. “We will be upgrading the league with quality replacements” she stated.
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RE: The Farewell Judy McLeod thread
(10-26-2021 08:38 AM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  
(10-25-2021 08:10 PM)mturn017 Wrote:  There was the photo in the Jeep and uh…..







Video find credit goes to Engblazr

https://csnbbs.com/thread-929546-post-17...id17636870



Wow. I did an image search, wanting to see if you she looked like one of the wives at the country club in Caddyshack 2, since all the Bahamas talk in the interview gave that impression.

Woof. 3/10 would not image search again. One of the top image results? Her on SportsCenter being lauded as the first female FBS commish. Maybe CUSA should have hired for competence instead of possession of ovaries.

Also she has the Jack Nicholson Joker smile.

[Image: AOTY-MacLeod-Twitter2.jpg]

Aside from any judgements of her leadership competence...I'm more astounded at her released public photos especially being the "face" of the conference. The one photo above is rather bizarre...99% of women (actually humans in general) know how to photoshop the crap out of their photo to make themselves look appealing. Just an observation regarding poor optics.
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