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Here's the best part:

"The major theme I took away from that presser was that the American feels good about their ability to help develop athletic departments. Cincinnati, Houston and UCF made significant developments while AAC members, along with programs like SMU and Tulane. The league seems to believe that thanks to increased exposure and better regular season games, with time and investments, some of these new programs can make a similar leap.

I'm skeptical. After all, Conference USA tried to make a similar bet with these same programs, and that clearly didn't work out. Sleeping giants in college sports tend to stay sleeping, for a variety of reasons. But I can at least understand the logic of the argument. It's certainly possible to pull off. There's just a very, very small margin of error."

So in other words, just like CUSA they're gambling on the idea of certain programs becoming the next UCF because they're in marketz.

Cover your mouth so you don't suck our dust, AAC.

They hit paydirt with Cincy and UCF, and now think that schools like UNT and Rice have the same odds

(10-25-2021 09:44 AM)chiefsfan Wrote:  They hit paydirt with Cincy and UCF, and now think that schools like UNT and Rice have the same odds

Agree, Cincy and UCF made a huge financial commitment to get better, plus they have a fan base. UNT/UTSA are the only ones that "may" be able to do that. I had thought UAB could with their new stadium, but their actual attendance this past Saturday was pathetic. Add onto that they had a winning record, brand new stadium, homecoming, and playing a current and future conference mate.

(10-25-2021 09:58 AM)Herd6993 Wrote:  

(10-25-2021 09:44 AM)chiefsfan Wrote:  They hit paydirt with Cincy and UCF, and now think that schools like UNT and Rice have the same odds

Cincy and UCF made a huge financial commitment to get better, plus they have a fan base. UNT/UTSA are the only ones that "may" be able to do that. I had thought UAB could with their new stadium, but their actual attendance this past Saturday was pathetic. Add onto that they had a winning record, brand new stadium, homecoming, and playing a current and future conference mate.

Cinncy has been a good program the last 20 years no like the AAC took a gamble on them. Same with Houston they were in a conference with Texas and A&M. UCF did build themselves up from nothing but their enrollment is 60k or something crazy. Sure Rice was in the same conference with Houston but they have not had much success since the 50's

Fun fact Rice stadium is so old they have not made upgrades since Kennedy's lets go to space speech lol

(10-25-2021 10:08 AM)Cajun_lannister Wrote:  

(10-25-2021 09:58 AM)Herd6993 Wrote:  

(10-25-2021 09:44 AM)chiefsfan Wrote:  They hit paydirt with Cincy and UCF, and now think that schools like UNT and Rice have the same odds

Cincy and UCF made a huge financial commitment to get better, plus they have a fan base. UNT/UTSA are the only ones that "may" be able to do that. I had thought UAB could with their new stadium, but their actual attendance this past Saturday was pathetic. Add onto that they had a winning record, brand new stadium, homecoming, and playing a current and future conference mate.

Cinncy has been a good program the last 20 years no like the AAC took a gamble on them. Same with Houston they were in the big 8 with Texas and A&M. UCF did build themselves up from nothing but their enrollment is 60k or something crazy.

Houston was in the Southwest Conference with Texas and A&M.

I bet N Texas didn’t have 7,000 fans there last Sat. The AAC is going to build that into a UC??

What's remarkable to me is that Mike Aresco's first year as a commissioner had 15 teams playing basketball in his league. The only one that will still be playing basketball in his conference by 2023 or 2024 will be USF. And Temple will be the only other one still in from his first year that played football.

Heck, even from his first year when the league was called "The American" (2013-14), the only remaining programs will be USF, Temple, Memphis, and SMU.

Louisville, Rutgers, UConn, Cincinnati, UCF, and Houston will have left directly from the AAC. Not from the Big East. From the AAC.

Not to mention that Memphis, SMU, and USF could be gone soon, too, to the Big 12. Navy could decide it's had enough. Wichita State could have eyes on the A-10.

It's as much of a revolving door as C-USA.

I like my chances with a far more stable Sun Belt built on rivalries and reasonable travel.

(10-25-2021 10:09 AM)OsageJ Wrote:  

(10-25-2021 10:08 AM)Cajun_lannister Wrote:  

(10-25-2021 09:58 AM)Herd6993 Wrote:  

(10-25-2021 09:44 AM)chiefsfan Wrote:  They hit paydirt with Cincy and UCF, and now think that schools like UNT and Rice have the same odds

Cincy and UCF made a huge financial commitment to get better, plus they have a fan base. UNT/UTSA are the only ones that "may" be able to do that. I had thought UAB could with their new stadium, but their actual attendance this past Saturday was pathetic. Add onto that they had a winning record, brand new stadium, homecoming, and playing a current and future conference mate.

Cinncy has been a good program the last 20 years no like the AAC took a gamble on them. Same with Houston they were in the big 8 with Texas and A&M. UCF did build themselves up from nothing but their enrollment is 60k or something crazy.

Houston was in the Southwest Conference with Texas and A&M.

Yeah I made the edit I mixed them up

(10-25-2021 09:44 AM)chiefsfan Wrote:  They hit paydirt with Cincy and UCF, and now think that schools like UNT and Rice have the same odds

When in reality Cincy and UCF moving to the XII is going to put more downward recruiting pressure on the market programs.

(10-25-2021 10:11 AM)Cinciflame Wrote:  I bet N Texas didn’t have 7,000 fans there last Sat. The AAC is going to build that into a UC??

They will fill it up when big travelers UAB, Charlotte and FAU roll into town.

(10-25-2021 09:26 AM)iStoopify Wrote:  Here's the best part:

"The major theme I took away from that presser was that the American feels good about their ability to help develop athletic departments. Cincinnati, Houston and UCF made significant developments while AAC members, along with programs like SMU and Tulane. The league seems to believe that thanks to increased exposure and better regular season games, with time and investments, some of these new programs can make a similar leap.

I'm skeptical. After all, Conference USA tried to make a similar bet with these same programs, and that clearly didn't work out. Sleeping giants in college sports tend to stay sleeping, for a variety of reasons. But I can at least understand the logic of the argument. It's certainly possible to pull off. There's just a very, very small margin of error."

The AAC wants, or at least believes the new C-USA additions will improve over time with investments. Didn't they cut all of the new members in for half shares for 10 years? Seems to be a bit at odds.

(10-25-2021 10:27 AM)Kit-Cat Wrote:  

(10-25-2021 09:44 AM)chiefsfan Wrote:  They hit paydirt with Cincy and UCF, and now think that schools like UNT and Rice have the same odds

When in reality Cincy and UCF moving to the XII is going to put more downward recruiting pressure on the market programs.

Allegedly, being near airports helps them with the transfer portal...

Winning doesn't matter, just being near an airport.