Anyone who mentions UConn and UMass as football-only additions to this league needs to be banned from the forum for stupidity.

If my team was still going to be in CUSA, I’d want the following:

North Dakota State
Montana
New Mexico St.
Sam Houston
UTEP
Louisiana Tech

WKU
MTSU
FIU
Liberty
Missouri St
Southern Illinois

My goodness Judy, why is she still employed? I just don’t understand. You all need to get a new commissioner ASAP. I suspect the teams that left, were leaving her as much as pursuing “better” options.

My choices would be LU first, which would be ironic since not taking them to begin with likely doomed CUSA. I doubt they’d join now. After that, I’d try to see if you could poach EKU and Tx St, though it’d be hard taking from others with more stability and money at the moment. And NMSU. So maybe you just take three football call ups to keep the league alive (Jax St?, Mo St? Nichols St.) and focus on CUSAs main strength now… BASKETBALL. WKU, MT, LaTech, FIU and UTEP is the core of a great basketball league. Add in fGCU, Belmont, and Murray St. and it becomes VERY GOOD.

So basically survive for football and be a killer hoops league.

Full members:UTEP, FIU, LaTech, WKU, MT, Jax St, MoSt, NMSU, Nichols St.
Olympic members: FGCU, Belmont, and Murray St.

That could be a two bid basketball league that’s a lot of fun. And good enough to draw in some of those teams. Focus on your basketball strength, stay in the spotlight and build excitement and the brand that way. I think that’s what I’d do.

(10-23-2021 11:14 PM)HERDDDDD Wrote:  McNeese State, Sam Houston, Tarleton, Abilene Christian, New Mexico State. These are the teams I’ve read through.

Good job reading!

(10-24-2021 08:28 AM)All4One Wrote:  

(10-24-2021 08:14 AM)Sakatalonzo Wrote:  

(10-23-2021 11:27 PM)shizzle787 Wrote:  If the MAC does not expand, C-USA will survive. NMSU will join and I honestly believe Liberty will change their tune. At that point, you would only need one FCS call up: Sam Houston State. However, I see the league going to 10 to stabilize against future raids by inviting Jacksonville State and Missouri State.

West: NMSU, UTEP, SHSU, LaTech, MSU
East: FIU, JSU, Liberty, WKU, MTSU

That would also be a pretty solid mid-major in basketball, potentially a 2-bid league some years.

Sorry Bud, my inside man at Liberty has confirmed that Liberty has turned down talks with C-USA and have no intentions of any affiliation.

Weird that in just 3 years how the TABLES have turn and now it's Liberty Saying "No Thanks"

Meh. After losing to ULM and nearly losing to North Texas, it's not like Liberty was ever going to a NY6 Bowl anyways. I guess there's always the Cure Bowl. Better than nothing, right?

lol... Good Morning bro... Hope you enjoyed college yesterday and get a chance to watch the NFL today...

now to our topic. Yes you are right. we are struggling right now. happens...

and yes we may get the cure bowl. who knows. but what I do know


Is that Liberty is in a better position now than 3 years ago. We may not be in a NY6 bowl now but it won't be long before we are fighting for a spot. The more we win the more shade we get. Love It.....

(10-24-2021 08:43 AM)Sakatalonzo Wrote:  

(10-24-2021 08:28 AM)All4One Wrote:  

(10-24-2021 08:14 AM)Sakatalonzo Wrote:  

(10-23-2021 11:27 PM)shizzle787 Wrote:  If the MAC does not expand, C-USA will survive. NMSU will join and I honestly believe Liberty will change their tune. At that point, you would only need one FCS call up: Sam Houston State. However, I see the league going to 10 to stabilize against future raids by inviting Jacksonville State and Missouri State.

West: NMSU, UTEP, SHSU, LaTech, MSU
East: FIU, JSU, Liberty, WKU, MTSU

That would also be a pretty solid mid-major in basketball, potentially a 2-bid league some years.

Sorry Bud, my inside man at Liberty has confirmed that Liberty has turned down talks with C-USA and have no intentions of any affiliation.

Weird that in just 3 years how the TABLES have turn and now it's Liberty Saying "No Thanks"

Meh. After losing to ULM and nearly losing to North Texas, it's not like Liberty was ever going to a NY6 Bowl anyways. I guess there's always the Cure Bowl. Better than nothing, right?

lol... Good Morning bro... Hope you enjoyed college yesterday and get a chance to watch the NFL today...

now to our topic. Yes you are right. we are struggling right now. happens...

and yes we may get the cure bowl. who knows. but what I do know


Is that Liberty is in a better position now than 3 years ago. We may not be in a NY6 bowl now but it won't be long before we are fighting for a spot. The more we win the more shade we get. Love It.....

You are not Notre Dame, and unless you're in a conference, you won't compete for a NY6 bid access spot. Liberty's only shot at a NY6 bowl is to go undefeated against a schedule of teams like Oklahoma, Alabama, and Ohio State and finish in the Top 10 in the nation to possibly receive an at-large bid.

(10-23-2021 11:14 PM)HERDDDDD Wrote:  McNeese State, Sam Houston, Tarleton, Abilene Christian, New Mexico State. These are the teams I’ve read through the week that the conference is pursuing.. Now my question do they plan on any schools to help FIU, WKU and MTSU? None of these work for them. I know these schools would help UTEP and LaTech but is Judy gonna throw the others a bone or what?

I’d have to imagine Judy has made a lot more contacts besides those 5 schools. Besides NMSU, none of those schools are remotely ready to play D1 football anyway. But the advantage of those schools is that they are close together which will absolutely help the FIUs and WKUs with travel costs. With NMSU in the conference, one plane ride to the El Paso area will get you two conferences games. That’s a lot better than flying your team to El Paso, then to Shreveport, and then back home. In that same way, picking schools like Tarleton St. and Abilene Christian will also help because they are also close together. That might even make them more appealing to ADs than Missouri St. which may be more prepared to jump but is alone on an island.

And yeah, I know how nauseating it sounds to even mention those schools as a part of C-USA. I feel for y’all. I really do.

Who exactly in the East is looking to transition to FBS that would fit well in the C-USA footprint?

(10-24-2021 12:20 AM)TOPSTRAIGHT Wrote:  Chattanooga passes the location and facilities eye test-- but don't know if they would move up. Metro (MSA) for Chattanooga is now about 560,000 and enrollment is over 10,000. I think that area is really growing. It would be easy travel for JSU, MT, WKU. Jacksonville State as a rival and travel partner for Chattanooga. You get the bonus of dipping into Ga., Ala., and TN recruiting grounds. This would give you three Eastern, five Central, and two Mountain time zone schools for media. JSU is also only 1hr 17m from Birmingham.

MT to CHAT----- 1hr 39m
WKU to CHAT--- 3 hrs
JSU to CHAT---- 1hr 51m

C-USA East*

WKU
MT
FIU
JSU
CHAT

*assuming Liberty says no a second time.

You're gonna need to add an hour on that trip to Chattanooga cause they are in the Eastern Time Zone. While I like the University of (puke on UT) Chattanooga and have had some grandkids who graduated from that fine institution; I can't imagine the Behemoth in Knoxville every allowing the smaller UTC to move up to Division 1 in FB. But, I likewise didn't imagine 9 CUSA programs departing our conference.

I would think that any additions, fcs, fbs or olympic sports only, would need assurances from the remaining 5 schools that they are going to be around long enough for the conference to be reestablished and on firm footing. It is a 2 year process to transition from fcs to fbs so those schools could at that time invite more schools if WKU and MT depart for greener pastures.

(10-24-2021 09:29 AM)MinerInWisconsin Wrote:  I would think that any additions, fcs, fbs or olympic sports only, would need assurances from the remaining 5 schools that they are going to be around long enough for the conference to be reestablished and on firm footing. It is a 2 year process to transition from fcs to fbs so those schools could at that time invite more schools if WKU and MT depart for greener pastures.

Exit fee is the only assurance any conference has to offer.

I know some of our Western colleagues despise Eastern Ky. But, I'm old enough to remember when EKU was a pretty formidable FB team (during our OVC days) with All American receiver Roger Bird (Byrd SP) and with legendary Coach Roy Kidd. Chattanooga would put a crimp in MT's already abysmal (in-state) recruiting since we seem to always recruit a few boyz from East Tennessee. Nevertheless, I'd welcome both cause I thing they would help us and Western put some butts in seats. And, it would show me Judy hasn't totally abandoned her responsibilities. Not sure about Jacksonville State (although they have occasionally been giant killers) as an FCS move up.

(10-24-2021 08:20 AM)Sakatalonzo Wrote:  I still do not understand how, C-USA just sat on their hands and waited to be taken. I mean I believe any one of us on their thread would have had 3 different plans in place for every situation. I mean at lest would have been pro-active and began calling Sunbelt teams as soon as I heard AAC was in trouble. Criminal charges should be brought by the remaining school or at a least a lawsuit for her actions.

How do you know none of these things didn’t happen? Just because it didn’t become the outcome, doesn’t mean it wasn’t tried.


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They could have invited Houston Baptist, but WKU already poached them.

(10-24-2021 08:20 AM)Sakatalonzo Wrote:  I still do not understand how, C-USA just sat on their hands and waited to be taken. I mean I believe any one of us on their thread would have had 3 different plans in place for every situation. I mean at lest would have been pro-active and began calling Sunbelt teams as soon as I heard AAC was in trouble. Criminal charges should be brought by the remaining school or at a least a lawsuit for her actions.

C-USA was fractured into East and West camps. I think you will see from the post mortems that most schools were busy positioning themselves for another conference long before UT and Oklahoma made their move. This is the only reason I can think of that the 14 schools did not act proactively much sooner.

(10-24-2021 08:33 AM)All4One Wrote:  Anyone who mentions UConn and UMass as football-only additions to this league needs to be banned from the forum for stupidity.

All4One, is MT tied at the hip with WKU. Because everyone assumes if the MAC expands it would be a MT and WKU. Even thou UMass sucks in football with a young team and coaching staff, our other sports are good and we do have a good soccer program. UMass could make an all out push for the MAC with WK pairing could appease the basketball fans enough to make it happen. We have a Q & A with the AD this week and if not out to pool, intend to ask some hard questions.

Has anybody have a what the conference will look like with MT and not WKU?

(10-24-2021 10:54 AM)Steve1981 Wrote:  

(10-24-2021 08:33 AM)All4One Wrote:  Anyone who mentions UConn and UMass as football-only additions to this league needs to be banned from the forum for stupidity.

All4One, is MT tied at the hip with WKU. Because everyone assumes if the MAC expands it would be a MT and WKU. Even thou UMass sucks in football with a young team and coaching staff, our other sports are good and we do have a good soccer program. UMass could make an all out push for the MAC with WK pairing could appease the basketball fans enough to make it happen. We have a Q & A with the AD this week and if not out to pool, intend to ask some hard questions.

Has anybody have a what the conference will look like with MT and not WKU?

It should appear that Middle Tennessee and Western Kentucky are somehow tied together based on what I see from those schools' fans and the school movements themselves, but that is irrelevant. UMass' REAL sports play in the Atlantic 10. A football-only invite does absolutely nothing to help Conference USA. Nothing. Same goes for UConn. Nothing.

(10-24-2021 11:00 AM)All4One Wrote:  

(10-24-2021 10:54 AM)Steve1981 Wrote:  

(10-24-2021 08:33 AM)All4One Wrote:  Anyone who mentions UConn and UMass as football-only additions to this league needs to be banned from the forum for stupidity.

All4One, is MT tied at the hip with WKU. Because everyone assumes if the MAC expands it would be a MT and WKU. Even thou UMass sucks in football with a young team and coaching staff, our other sports are good and we do have a good soccer program. UMass could make an all out push for the MAC with WK pairing could appease the basketball fans enough to make it happen. We have a Q & A with the AD this week and if not out to pool, intend to ask some hard questions.

Has anybody have a what the conference will look like with MT and not WKU?

It should appear that Middle Tennessee and Western Kentucky are somehow tied together based on what I see from those schools' fans and the school movements themselves, but that is irrelevant. UMass' REAL sports play in the Atlantic 10. A football-only invite does absolutely nothing to help Conference USA. Nothing. Same goes for UConn. Nothing.

I feel like the MAC would be more interested in pairing MTSU and WKU instead of UMASS. We’re not necessarily tied at the hip but both will fight to include the other.

(10-24-2021 08:33 AM)All4One Wrote:  Anyone who mentions UConn and UMass as football-only additions to this league needs to be banned from the forum for stupidity.

Much better than Tarleton St or McNeese St.

(10-24-2021 08:23 AM)All4One Wrote:  

(10-24-2021 08:08 AM)Side.Show.Joe Wrote:  

(10-23-2021 11:14 PM)HERDDDDD Wrote:  McNeese State, Sam Houston, Tarleton, Abilene Christian, New Mexico State. These are the teams I’ve read through the week that the conference is pursuing.. Now my question do they plan on any schools to help FIU, WKU and MTSU? None of these work for them. I know these schools would help UTEP and LaTech but is Judy gonna throw the others a bone or what?

Judy is an idiot. C-USA needs to target NMSU and add UConn and UMass as football only programs. The remaining 5 presidents need to fire Judy before she can finish sinking C-USA.

Coming from a fan of a school that isn't being screwed by realignment, the notion of adding two schools like UConn and UMass as football-only members, which does nothing to help CUSA stay FBS, is insulting.

Why insulting?

The MWC benefits by having Hawaii as a FB-only school.

The AAC benefits by having Navy as a FB member & Wichita St. as a non-FB member.

True, they wouldn't help CUSA meet the 8 full-member requirement, but they would help in a different way by tapping into the large northeastern viewership markets. That's important because viewership translates into broadcasting revenue.

Thanks, and All4One, it would be an all sports bid as CUSA 8 stayed together

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