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Is the AAC entrance fee really 10M? I know the exit fee is but usually it’s much less to get in. Charlotte was wise to move to the AAC. I think App wouldn’t have chosen them over other options and there was only so many spots.
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(10-23-2021 07:50 PM)mturn017 Wrote:  Is the AAC entrance fee really 10M? I know the exit fee is but usually it’s much less to get in. Charlotte was wise to move to the AAC. I think App wouldn’t have chosen them over other options and there was only so many spots.

I do not believe it is. It's typically much less like you said
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(10-23-2021 04:48 PM)billings Wrote:  
(10-23-2021 12:48 PM)UTEPDallas Wrote:  Why is anybody surprised at this?

ESPN weakened the MWC in 2010 when the Pac-12 invited Utah, BYU was given a good independent deal on ESPN and TCU was invited to the Big East. The MWC’s sin? They signed with an unknown entity (CSTV) and launched the first conference network.

The Big East met a similar fate in 2011.

Fast forward to 2021 and ESPN did the same to the Big XII. The SEC was favored over the Big Ten because the former has an ESPN owned conference network and the latter doesn’t.

Is it any coincidence the same happened to C-USA? Why anyone is surprised at this point? The MWC is safe for now but for how long?

FOX and CBS haven’t done or said anything. Did anyone notice FOX didn’t say anything in regards to the Big XII when ESPN was trying to destroy one of its properties this summer? That tells you all you need to know. NBC is shutting NBC Sports this fall so now we have less options. How serious is CBS in its commitment to CBS Sports? If FOX/FS1 decides to stick with the Big Ten, the Pac-12, Big East and to a lesser extent the Big XII then it’s bad news for the G5. There’s no leverage if ESPN tells you to play on Tuesday night on ESPNU for peanuts. Where are you going to go? Facebook TV? Stadium?

The PAC is not an ESPN conference

The then Pac-10 was an ESPN property in 2010. Ditto for the 16 team Big East.

The Big Ten, Pac-12 and Big XII currently have a hybrid deal with ESPN and FOX.
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(10-23-2021 04:32 PM)DaBigBlue Wrote:  
(10-23-2021 04:17 PM)monarx Wrote:  
(10-23-2021 04:11 PM)DaBigBlue Wrote:  
(10-23-2021 03:39 PM)goliath74 Wrote:  
(10-23-2021 03:36 PM)monarx Wrote:  If SunBelt teams will in fact make $2 million each, then that’s amazing and will make the SB competitive with the MW and AAC. It’s a no brained for any CUSA team would be crazy not to join. Better geography and 1.5 mil more? Bet Charlotte is second guessing themselves if true as they may have been included as well.

Charlotte is getting the same $2M MINIMUM from AAC, so, why are they second guessing anything?

Because they have to pay $10mil to get $2mil/yr, takes 5 years to break even. What will the AAC look like in 5 years. So after 5 years they would have been ahead staying in CUSA by $2.5mil. LOL.

Exactly. And have farther to travel and other than ECU and Temple, worse teams for fan interest once Memphis, Wichita and SMU leave.

Actually it's worst, just remembered the exit CUSA fees of $3mil added to the $10mil entrance fee and they're only making $1.5mil/yr more in the ACC.
So $13mil/$1.5mil = 8.7 years to break even moving to the AAC.

I believe you are mixing up the AAC entrance fee ($2.5M) with the exit fee ($10M).
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(10-24-2021 08:24 AM)CurveItAround Wrote:  
(10-23-2021 04:32 PM)DaBigBlue Wrote:  
(10-23-2021 04:17 PM)monarx Wrote:  
(10-23-2021 04:11 PM)DaBigBlue Wrote:  
(10-23-2021 03:39 PM)goliath74 Wrote:  Charlotte is getting the same $2M MINIMUM from AAC, so, why are they second guessing anything?

Because they have to pay $10mil to get $2mil/yr, takes 5 years to break even. What will the AAC look like in 5 years. So after 5 years they would have been ahead staying in CUSA by $2.5mil. LOL.

Exactly. And have farther to travel and other than ECU and Temple, worse teams for fan interest once Memphis, Wichita and SMU leave.

Actually it's worst, just remembered the exit CUSA fees of $3mil added to the $10mil entrance fee and they're only making $1.5mil/yr more in the ACC.
So $13mil/$1.5mil = 8.7 years to break even moving to the AAC.

I believe you are mixing up the AAC entrance fee ($2.5M) with the exit fee ($10M).

Correct and if you think CUSA Is getting 3M in exit fees I have a bridge to sell you.
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RE: ESPN heavily involved.
(10-24-2021 08:39 AM)Dusky Wrote:  
(10-24-2021 08:24 AM)CurveItAround Wrote:  
(10-23-2021 04:32 PM)DaBigBlue Wrote:  
(10-23-2021 04:17 PM)monarx Wrote:  
(10-23-2021 04:11 PM)DaBigBlue Wrote:  Because they have to pay $10mil to get $2mil/yr, takes 5 years to break even. What will the AAC look like in 5 years. So after 5 years they would have been ahead staying in CUSA by $2.5mil. LOL.

Exactly. And have farther to travel and other than ECU and Temple, worse teams for fan interest once Memphis, Wichita and SMU leave.

Actually it's worst, just remembered the exit CUSA fees of $3mil added to the $10mil entrance fee and they're only making $1.5mil/yr more in the ACC.
So $13mil/$1.5mil = 8.7 years to break even moving to the AAC.

I believe you are mixing up the AAC entrance fee ($2.5M) with the exit fee ($10M).

Correct and if you think CUSA Is getting 3M in exit fees I have a bridge to sell you.

If the league dissolves, then no, but if it stays together, then the schools leaving will pay what they signed in their contracts to pay.
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(10-24-2021 08:44 AM)All4One Wrote:  
(10-24-2021 08:39 AM)Dusky Wrote:  
(10-24-2021 08:24 AM)CurveItAround Wrote:  
(10-23-2021 04:32 PM)DaBigBlue Wrote:  
(10-23-2021 04:17 PM)monarx Wrote:  Exactly. And have farther to travel and other than ECU and Temple, worse teams for fan interest once Memphis, Wichita and SMU leave.

Actually it's worst, just remembered the exit CUSA fees of $3mil added to the $10mil entrance fee and they're only making $1.5mil/yr more in the ACC.
So $13mil/$1.5mil = 8.7 years to break even moving to the AAC.

I believe you are mixing up the AAC entrance fee ($2.5M) with the exit fee ($10M).

Correct and if you think CUSA Is getting 3M in exit fees I have a bridge to sell you.

If the league dissolves, then no, but if it stays together, then the schools leaving will pay what they signed in their contracts to pay.

Or forfeit tourney cred $$ (UNT)
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(10-23-2021 07:53 PM)ShrackUAB Wrote:  
(10-23-2021 07:50 PM)mturn017 Wrote:  Is the AAC entrance fee really 10M? I know the exit fee is but usually it’s much less to get in. Charlotte was wise to move to the AAC. I think App wouldn’t have chosen them over other options and there was only so many spots.

I do not believe it is. It's typically much less like you said

Entrance fee is 2.5 mil. The AAC exit fee is 10 mil.
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(10-23-2021 03:39 PM)goliath74 Wrote:  
(10-23-2021 03:36 PM)monarx Wrote:  If SunBelt teams will in fact make $2 million each, then that’s amazing and will make the SB competitive with the MW and AAC. It’s a no brained for any CUSA team would be crazy not to join. Better geography and 1.5 mil more? Bet Charlotte is second guessing themselves if true as they may have been included as well.

Charlotte is getting the same $2M MINIMUM from AAC, so, why are they second guessing anything?

No one really knows how much AAC or Belt schools are getting. one report said AAC schools would start in the 2 mil range. My guess is new AAC schools get a 1/2 share of what the leaving schools got. that would be in the 2.25 to 2.5 million range to start, going up every year. So at the end of the deal they would be well over 4mil.
The AAC will still get better coverage by ESPN so new AAC schools will be happy with the move. Same likely will be true with Mac or Belt though on a lesser scale.
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I would lobby CBS and ante up to bid on JMU, App St, and Liberty to join Marshall, ODU, WKU, and MTSU. Move UTEP and La Tech to the MWC (football only). There should be tons of exit fees coming to all these schools to transition the western flank to the MWC and keep the Mid Atlantic rivals together. For 8th school, Army/VCU could work.

Sun Belt can stay at 10 or reload with FIU and La Tech as well.
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(10-23-2021 01:49 PM)UTEPDallas Wrote:  
(10-23-2021 01:47 PM)baruna falls Wrote:  
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(10-23-2021 11:45 AM)SowasheeEagle Wrote:  Hearing from sources connected at very high levels to the Southern Miss Athletic Department what many have suspected that ESPN was very much involved. Evidently SBC schools will receive the same payout ($2million per)as the new AAC schools and the SBC will have equal exposure on the ESPN platform.

Process started back in a July when Southern Miss AD met with the SBC and then helped drive the deal sign ESPN.

If this is indeed the case then it’s a no brainer for Marshall and ODU

How did Southern miss drive ESPN to pay more money to SBC with more mouths to feed? How did Southern miss get ESPN to give Belt AAC type exposure?

By putting brand and name recognition back into their fold. You know things that were earned on the field over decades and not just granted to a few places that had lucky geography and demographics.

This will be the ruin of the new AAC. Schools that have earned nothing got the jump over Marshall just because of where they reside, absolutely ridiculous.

Basketball will be absolutely terrible. I feel bad for Memphis. It’s C-USA 2.0 all over again. Instead of 11 dwarves it’ll be 13 this time.

That's a bit of an exaggeration. Memphis and Wichita State are NCAA-quality programs. Temple is rebuilding well, and could be NCAA-quality by 2023/24. SMU is at least NIT quality, as are UAB and UNT.

The AAC has sent an average of 3 teams to the NCAA tournament. The average may only drop to ~2.5 starting in 2024/25. The number of NIT teams from the conference will probably remain around 1.5 or 2, on average.

No longer having to compete with Houston and Cincinnati for NCAA bids will help programs like SMU and Temple to get into the tournament more often, and then recruiting improves, etc., etc.
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(10-23-2021 04:57 PM)goliath74 Wrote:  
(10-23-2021 04:11 PM)DaBigBlue Wrote:  
(10-23-2021 03:39 PM)goliath74 Wrote:  
(10-23-2021 03:36 PM)monarx Wrote:  If SunBelt teams will in fact make $2 million each, then that’s amazing and will make the SB competitive with the MW and AAC. It’s a no brained for any CUSA team would be crazy not to join. Better geography and 1.5 mil more? Bet Charlotte is second guessing themselves if true as they may have been included as well.

Charlotte is getting the same $2M MINIMUM from AAC, so, why are they second guessing anything?

Because they have to pay $10mil to get $2mil/yr, takes 5 years to break even. What will the AAC look like in 5 years. So after 5 years they would have been ahead staying in CUSA by $2.5mil. LOL.

That's $2M minimum (it's $2.5 maximum, according to some reports) and it is going up for 5 years, at which point they will be getting the same amount as other AAC teams do. Travel is no longer a reasonable criteria. And, even so, who do you want to travel to? SMU or Texas State? ECU or ODU?

By the time its scheduled to go up Memphis will be gone, likely smu. There is not team that can be added to retain that type of money. In the end all the G5's will make the same no matter what logo is on the shoulder.
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(10-24-2021 02:00 PM)Thegoldstandard Wrote:  
(10-23-2021 04:57 PM)goliath74 Wrote:  
(10-23-2021 04:11 PM)DaBigBlue Wrote:  
(10-23-2021 03:39 PM)goliath74 Wrote:  
(10-23-2021 03:36 PM)monarx Wrote:  If SunBelt teams will in fact make $2 million each, then that’s amazing and will make the SB competitive with the MW and AAC. It’s a no brained for any CUSA team would be crazy not to join. Better geography and 1.5 mil more? Bet Charlotte is second guessing themselves if true as they may have been included as well.

Charlotte is getting the same $2M MINIMUM from AAC, so, why are they second guessing anything?

Because they have to pay $10mil to get $2mil/yr, takes 5 years to break even. What will the AAC look like in 5 years. So after 5 years they would have been ahead staying in CUSA by $2.5mil. LOL.

That's $2M minimum (it's $2.5 maximum, according to some reports) and it is going up for 5 years, at which point they will be getting the same amount as other AAC teams do. Travel is no longer a reasonable criteria. And, even so, who do you want to travel to? SMU or Texas State? ECU or ODU?

By the time its scheduled to go up Memphis will be gone, likely smu. There is not team that can be added to retain that type of money. In the end all the G5's will make the same no matter what logo is on the shoulder.

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(10-23-2021 11:49 AM)All4One Wrote:  
(10-23-2021 11:45 AM)SowasheeEagle Wrote:  Hearing from sources connected at very high levels to the Southern Miss Athletic Department what many have suspected that ESPN was very much involved. Evidently SBC schools will recite s the same payout ($2million per)as the new AAC and the SBC will have equal exposure.

Process started back in a July when Southern Miss AD met with the SBC and then helped drive the deal sign ESPN.

If this is indeed the case then it’s a no brainer for Marshall and ODU

You're stating the obvious. ESPN collusion was always the primary reason this all went down for all the reasons mentioned on this forum by several people.

No, he is not stating the obvious. He is stating the opposite of that. He is saying that USM got out in front of conference realignment before the Big 12 and AAC made any moves and possibly before the SEC made moves with Texas and OK. USM's AD has been trying to get out of CUSA for a long time and he approached the Sun Belt a long time ago. Thats not stating the obvious to most. We were not reactive but proactive. We wanted to go to the Belt, not the AAC. Our AD stated when he was first hired that we wanted more regional games (among other nuggets he stated). He did what he said he was going to do and has been working on this since he was first hired 2.5 years ago. So there.
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RE: ESPN heavily involved.
(10-25-2021 09:23 PM)Reggie Favre Wrote:  
(10-23-2021 11:49 AM)All4One Wrote:  
(10-23-2021 11:45 AM)SowasheeEagle Wrote:  Hearing from sources connected at very high levels to the Southern Miss Athletic Department what many have suspected that ESPN was very much involved. Evidently SBC schools will recite s the same payout ($2million per)as the new AAC and the SBC will have equal exposure.

Process started back in a July when Southern Miss AD met with the SBC and then helped drive the deal sign ESPN.

If this is indeed the case then it’s a no brainer for Marshall and ODU

You're stating the obvious. ESPN collusion was always the primary reason this all went down for all the reasons mentioned on this forum by several people.

No, he is not stating the obvious. He is stating the opposite of that. He is saying that USM got out in front of conference realignment before the Big 12 and AAC made any moves and possibly before the SEC made moves with Texas and OK. USM's AD has been trying to get out of CUSA for a long time and he approached the Sun Belt a long time ago. Thats not stating the obvious to most. We were not reactive but proactive. We wanted to go to the Belt, not the AAC. Our AD stated when he was first hired that we wanted more regional games (among other nuggets he stated). He did what he said he was going to do and has been working on this since he was first hired 2.5 years ago. So there.

No, he said ESPN was heavily involved, and he's right. The sports media cartel used the AAC and Sun Belt to destabilize a media competitor.
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(10-25-2021 09:23 PM)Reggie Favre Wrote:  
(10-23-2021 11:49 AM)All4One Wrote:  
(10-23-2021 11:45 AM)SowasheeEagle Wrote:  Hearing from sources connected at very high levels to the Southern Miss Athletic Department what many have suspected that ESPN was very much involved. Evidently SBC schools will recite s the same payout ($2million per)as the new AAC and the SBC will have equal exposure.

Process started back in a July when Southern Miss AD met with the SBC and then helped drive the deal sign ESPN.

If this is indeed the case then it’s a no brainer for Marshall and ODU

You're stating the obvious. ESPN collusion was always the primary reason this all went down for all the reasons mentioned on this forum by several people.

No, he is not stating the obvious. He is stating the opposite of that. He is saying that USM got out in front of conference realignment before the Big 12 and AAC made any moves and possibly before the SEC made moves with Texas and OK. USM's AD has been trying to get out of CUSA for a long time and he approached the Sun Belt a long time ago. Thats not stating the obvious to most. We were not reactive but proactive. We wanted to go to the Belt, not the AAC. Our AD stated when he was first hired that we wanted more regional games (among other nuggets he stated). He did what he said he was going to do and has been working on this since he was first hired 2.5 years ago. So there.

USM to the Sunbelt was settled several months ago when they could not organize the central time zone schools in the south into a new alignment since Tech wanted no part of it. You will notice USM remained completely and totally silent as all this shufffling developed because every domino was falling into place just as they had envisioned. Notice they never partitioned the AAC for one of their spots.
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(10-26-2021 09:15 AM)high flyer Wrote:  
(10-25-2021 09:23 PM)Reggie Favre Wrote:  
(10-23-2021 11:49 AM)All4One Wrote:  
(10-23-2021 11:45 AM)SowasheeEagle Wrote:  Hearing from sources connected at very high levels to the Southern Miss Athletic Department what many have suspected that ESPN was very much involved. Evidently SBC schools will recite s the same payout ($2million per)as the new AAC and the SBC will have equal exposure.

Process started back in a July when Southern Miss AD met with the SBC and then helped drive the deal sign ESPN.

If this is indeed the case then it’s a no brainer for Marshall and ODU

You're stating the obvious. ESPN collusion was always the primary reason this all went down for all the reasons mentioned on this forum by several people.

No, he is not stating the obvious. He is stating the opposite of that. He is saying that USM got out in front of conference realignment before the Big 12 and AAC made any moves and possibly before the SEC made moves with Texas and OK. USM's AD has been trying to get out of CUSA for a long time and he approached the Sun Belt a long time ago. Thats not stating the obvious to most. We were not reactive but proactive. We wanted to go to the Belt, not the AAC. Our AD stated when he was first hired that we wanted more regional games (among other nuggets he stated). He did what he said he was going to do and has been working on this since he was first hired 2.5 years ago. So there.

USM to the Sunbelt was settled several months ago when they could not organize the central time zone schools in the south into a new alignment since Tech wanted no part of it. You will notice USM remained completely and totally silent as all this shufffling developed because every domino was falling into place just as they had envisioned. Notice they never partitioned the AAC for one of their spots.
Can't imagine any good AD not applying for AAC membership if for nothing else,more money and exposure. That's a heck of a risk to take for Southern Miss not to apply to both Sun Belt ans AAc .
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RE: ESPN heavily involved.
(10-23-2021 11:45 AM)SowasheeEagle Wrote:  Hearing from sources connected at very high levels to the Southern Miss Athletic Department what many have suspected that ESPN was very much involved. Evidently SBC schools will receive the same payout ($2million per)as the new AAC schools and the SBC will have equal exposure on the ESPN platform.

Process started back in a July when Southern Miss AD met with the SBC and then helped drive the deal sign ESPN.

If this is indeed the case then it’s a no brainer for Marshall and ODU

This is why Georgia State immediately told the AAC thanks but no thanks before any formal talks had even taken place. It's why App State, Louisiana, and Coastal Carolina never really explored moving to the AAC.

I've tried telling AAC people this. It isn't that the AAC didn't want Sun Belt schools, it's that Sun Belt schools had no financial motivation to move to the AAC. Why would you leave a tighter geographical football with some newly established rivalries, pay exit and entry fees, only to have the same media payout and the same ESPN exposure?

You wouldn't. So long as basketball improves in the Sun Belt overall, I think ODU, Marshall, and USM will be better off in the Sun Belt than they would've been in the AAC. If Marshall and ODU are so concerned about basketball, they should have no problem running the table and getting the NCAA bid which will only raise your profile more in basketball.

Look at Gonzaga. They don't have a challenging conference schedule yet they somehow have risen to be a perennial number one team in the country. The exposure of the NCAA Tournament is what matters and if Marshall and ODU are really that much better than the rest of the Belt then that's a benefit to them.

That said, you guys will also likely be playing UAPB and UTA still. Not sure if the Sun Belt will actually force them out, even if it's been said that they are. The Sun Belt with those two programs haven't been that far below C-USA in RPI the past two seasons.
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(10-26-2021 09:18 AM)baruna falls Wrote:  
(10-26-2021 09:15 AM)high flyer Wrote:  
(10-25-2021 09:23 PM)Reggie Favre Wrote:  
(10-23-2021 11:49 AM)All4One Wrote:  
(10-23-2021 11:45 AM)SowasheeEagle Wrote:  Hearing from sources connected at very high levels to the Southern Miss Athletic Department what many have suspected that ESPN was very much involved. Evidently SBC schools will recite s the same payout ($2million per)as the new AAC and the SBC will have equal exposure.

Process started back in a July when Southern Miss AD met with the SBC and then helped drive the deal sign ESPN.

If this is indeed the case then it’s a no brainer for Marshall and ODU

You're stating the obvious. ESPN collusion was always the primary reason this all went down for all the reasons mentioned on this forum by several people.

No, he is not stating the obvious. He is stating the opposite of that. He is saying that USM got out in front of conference realignment before the Big 12 and AAC made any moves and possibly before the SEC made moves with Texas and OK. USM's AD has been trying to get out of CUSA for a long time and he approached the Sun Belt a long time ago. Thats not stating the obvious to most. We were not reactive but proactive. We wanted to go to the Belt, not the AAC. Our AD stated when he was first hired that we wanted more regional games (among other nuggets he stated). He did what he said he was going to do and has been working on this since he was first hired 2.5 years ago. So there.

USM to the Sunbelt was settled several months ago when they could not organize the central time zone schools in the south into a new alignment since Tech wanted no part of it. You will notice USM remained completely and totally silent as all this shufffling developed because every domino was falling into place just as they had envisioned. Notice they never partitioned the AAC for one of their spots.
Can't imagine any good AD not applying for AAC membership if for nothing else,more money and exposure. That's a heck of a risk to take for Southern Miss not to apply to both Sun Belt ans AAc .

All of the Sun Belt programs will get as much money with the same graduated payout year over year as New AAC programs. The new Sun Belt will have the same number of linear network ESPN games as the entirety of the AAC.

So Southern Miss gets to reduce travel costs, join potential rivals in USA, Louisiana, Louisiana-Monroe, Arkansas State, and Troy while getting a higher payout and games on national TV.

Joining the AAC in that case doesn't make sense because cash is ultimately what affects the pecking order to P5. There has been an arms race in the Sun Belt but it's been more difficult to get to AAC levels due to the comparative level of exposure, which is now not going to be an issue.

AAC people seem to think that the Sun Belt will get MAC like schedules but that's not the case. There may be more Thursday and Friday games than before but the Sun Belt will have nearly as many Saturday games on linear networks. If App State, Coastal, and Louisiana win out to championship weekend the Sun Belt will have 30% of its membership in the Top 25. That leads up to the kind of Saturday Primetime match-ups that the AAC had been getting in the future.

This also tells me that ESPN doesn't have much confidence that viewership of AAC games will be more than what the new Sun Belt games they choose to broadcast.

Case in point is future conference match-up in Apo State and Marshall getting better than a million viewers in both of its match-ups the past two seasons.
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(10-26-2021 09:21 AM)ericsaid Wrote:  
(10-23-2021 11:45 AM)SowasheeEagle Wrote:  Hearing from sources connected at very high levels to the Southern Miss Athletic Department what many have suspected that ESPN was very much involved. Evidently SBC schools will receive the same payout ($2million per)as the new AAC schools and the SBC will have equal exposure on the ESPN platform.

Process started back in a July when Southern Miss AD met with the SBC and then helped drive the deal sign ESPN.

If this is indeed the case then it’s a no brainer for Marshall and ODU

This is why Georgia State immediately told the AAC thanks but no thanks before any formal talks had even taken place. It's why App State, Louisiana, and Coastal Carolina never really explored moving to the AAC.

I've tried telling AAC people this. It isn't that the AAC didn't want Sun Belt schools, it's that Sun Belt schools had no financial motivation to move to the AAC. Why would you leave a tighter geographical football with some newly established rivalries, pay exit and entry fees, only to have the same media payout and the same ESPN exposure?

You wouldn't. So long as basketball improves in the Sun Belt overall, I think ODU, Marshall, and USM will be better off in the Sun Belt than they would've been in the AAC. If Marshall and ODU are so concerned about basketball, they should have no problem running the table and getting the NCAA bid which will only raise your profile more in basketball.

Look at Gonzaga. They don't have a challenging conference schedule yet they somehow have risen to be a perennial number one team in the country. The exposure of the NCAA Tournament is what matters and if Marshall and ODU are really that much better than the rest of the Belt then that's a benefit to them.

That said, you guys will also likely be playing UAPB and UTA still. Not sure if the Sun Belt will actually force them out, even if it's been said that they are. The Sun Belt with those two programs haven't been that far below C-USA in RPI the past two seasons.
Again you are full of crap. The sun belt gets 13 million for 10 teams now. To get even 2 million per team , ESPN would have to up that to 28 million which is over double. Not going to happen

The new AAC teams are getting 2 million to start and it escalates from there through 2031

The sun belt is not going to make more than the AAC. And it's 15 games on linear ESPN for the sun belt and 40 for the AAC

Southern Miss and odu are last place teams in cusa right now. James Madison is fcs. Those adds arent going to double the exposure and revenue. Stop with your BS

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