(10-21-2021 07:57 PM)Michael in Raleigh Wrote:  

(10-21-2021 07:45 PM)Was SoMs Eagle Wrote:  At some point you either want the best conference you can assemble or you want to break balls. LaTech would be a good addition. If there was room. Take your frustrations out on them on the field. Same with WKU. Bury the hatchet and get the best out there.

First of all, La. Tech is not all that special. They've won 10 games one time since joining FBS in 1989. They're above average. They're legends in their own minds.

Secondly, they've burned bridges over and over. No need to blather on as others have said plenty.

Third, there is no need for yet a third Louisiana school. If there needs to be a second western school, make it WKU or MTSU. Ideally there would be a Texas school, but unless we want to scoop up UTEastern New Mexico, that's not an option, either. There are plenty of schools in the Gulf Coast/Mississippi River basin states.

But the schools out east could use some closer partners. There are quality additions in Marshall and a couple others that are just as good, if not better than, La. Tech.

It is not the Sun Belt's job to save La. Tech from the consequences of their own arrogant behavior. They can show just how deep their commitment not to be with ULM and Louisiana is by going independent or continuing in a dead-man-walking CUSA.

Not even picking at nits, but just reinforcing how remote UTEP is..... El Paso is further west than 3/4 of New Mexico.

(10-22-2021 07:56 AM)sdcritter Wrote:  I think a thank you starts with Texas and Oklahoma. Funny how those ripples spread across the pond.

This.

It was power-conference moves in ~1991 that led to the creation of C-USA. Now, 30 years later, power-conference moves will apparently lead to the dissolution of C-USA.

(10-21-2021 07:45 PM)Was SoMs Eagle Wrote:  At some point you either want the best conference you can assemble or you want to break balls. LaTech would be a good addition. If there was room. Take your frustrations out on them on the field. Same with WKU. Bury the hatchet and get the best out there.

latech is toxic. And I'm not talking about the fans, even though there is some of that. Fans will do what fans do and I have zero problems with that.
However, the administration allows bush league BS about our preferred name. Witness the name shenanigans the past couple of times we were there for baseball and basketball. PA announcers calling us Lafayette USL etc. Its small and bush league. I would prefer that my university not be associated with that level of pettiness and unprofessionalism.

(10-22-2021 07:55 AM)InjunJohn86 Wrote:  

(10-22-2021 07:49 AM)Was SoMs Eagle Wrote:  I see. A lot of bad blood here. Just glad to be out of purgatory myself. Glad for the new faces. Now its time to build our program back and this is the place we can do it. Never thought I would say “thank you AAC” but a big thanks to them for indirectly getting us out of that chithole conference.

lots of bad blood and it really has nothing to do with "rivalry" but the way Tech has acted over the years on multiple occasions.

Like the year Tech refused a bowl game against ULM.?. No question La. Tech made some really bad public comments and choices over the past 10 years as they thought they found the Yellow Brick road to a pot of gold. That road just turned out to be a road to an old collapsing salt dome and the salt is now being rubbed in Bulldog wounds.

I stated on the CUSA site, if eastern and western CUSA schools get raided by AAC or MW, La Tech is in trouble. Well, guess what? My oldest son graduated there, my youngest son soon to graduate there… love the town, quintessential small town college town and they have really done a good job building up campus infrastructure, regardless of where the money came from, they used the money right.

But,,, while La. Tech was beating their chest and very publicly trashed the SBC, ULM quietly built loyalty to the SBC and now geography and the past are haunting Bulldog nation. Never say never to Tech in SBC as they have had quality wins in the past, BUT, it will take lots of (as Jimmy Buffet says), mea culpa, , mea culpa, moxi mea culpa on Techs part and then I don’t know if they will have a chance as a 3rd Louisiana school in the conference. Well played ULM, NOT SO TECH.

(10-20-2021 09:31 PM)slycat Wrote:  

(10-20-2021 09:27 PM)Usajags Wrote:  LaTech has been independent before, they may do it again. If, TxSt were to head west to the MW or jump in the WAC when they go FBS, I could see Tech getting a look. Of course I’m old enough to still think of the Tim Rattay days of LaTech as just a couple years ago, and think of them as that team. And that’s not reality.

If we jump to the WAC go I will finally give up on TXST.

Same here lol. Frankly I'd rather us just drop football and go all in on basketball than move down to FCS

(10-22-2021 06:47 AM)rokamortis Wrote:  

(10-21-2021 07:45 PM)Was SoMs Eagle Wrote:  At some point you either want the best conference you can assemble or you want to break balls. LaTech would be a good addition. If there was room. Take your frustrations out on them on the field. Same with WKU. Bury the hatchet and get the best out there.

We have a good thing and don’t need to add any toxicity.

Toxicity . . great choice of words. Tech Fans bring so much toxicity with them that it overshadows any benefits they might also bring. I am sick of that toxicity and do not ever want it back in the Conference.

Tech has made their bed and now they must lie in it.

(10-22-2021 08:26 AM)ragin4u Wrote:  

(10-21-2021 07:45 PM)Was SoMs Eagle Wrote:  At some point you either want the best conference you can assemble or you want to break balls. LaTech would be a good addition. If there was room. Take your frustrations out on them on the field. Same with WKU. Bury the hatchet and get the best out there.

latech is toxic. And I'm not talking about the fans, even though there is some of that. Fans will do what fans do and I have zero problems with that.
However, the administration allows bush league BS about our preferred name. Witness the name shenanigans the past couple of times we were there for baseball and basketball. PA announcers calling us Lafayette USL etc. Its small and bush league. I would prefer that my university not be associated with that level of pettiness and unprofessionalism.

Bingo. Fans are one thing but when you see the entire admin of laturd not just tolerate the petty and childish behavior of their worst fans that is very much a different thing. Those people are toxic and the least we have to do with them the better off we will all be.

(10-22-2021 08:50 AM)Bobcat2013 Wrote:  

(10-20-2021 09:31 PM)slycat Wrote:  

(10-20-2021 09:27 PM)Usajags Wrote:  LaTech has been independent before, they may do it again. If, TxSt were to head west to the MW or jump in the WAC when they go FBS, I could see Tech getting a look. Of course I’m old enough to still think of the Tim Rattay days of LaTech as just a couple years ago, and think of them as that team. And that’s not reality.

If we jump to the WAC go I will finally give up on TXST.

Same here lol. Frankly I'd rather us just drop football and go all in on basketball than move down to FCS

Even as Bad as we’ve Been . . For as Long as it’s Been, I think it’s safe to say we ain’t goin’ Back.

We lost at the FCS level . .. in the Southland
We lost at the FBS level . . . in the WAC
. . and we’ve continued losing at the FBS level . . In The Sun Belt.

No we’re not going back . . . We’re gonna stay right here, and keep losing . . . cause we’re on a roll, and it’s what we do.

(10-22-2021 07:49 AM)Was SoMs Eagle Wrote:  I see. A lot of bad blood here. Just glad to be out of purgatory myself. Glad for the new faces. Now its time to build our program back and this is the place we can do it. Never thought I would say “thank you AAC” but a big thanks to them for indirectly getting us out of that chithole conference.

I am so darn happy that USM is joining us. USM is awesome !!

I have admired and respected USM for decades and I know this is going to be an awesome Conference home for all of us.

(10-20-2021 09:35 PM)cyc46 Wrote:  

(10-20-2021 09:27 PM)Usajags Wrote:  LaTech has been independent before, they may do it again. If, TxSt were to head west to the MW or jump in the WAC when they go FBS, I could see Tech getting a look. Of course I’m old enough to still think of the Tim Rattay days of LaTech as just a couple years ago, and think of them as that team. And that’s not reality.

So you remember Troy Edwards?

I wouldn’t mind Tech coming to the SBC but I know there is a complex history there. I do love to hate Tech tho and I’d miss the opportunity to watch my Eagles destroy them.

I still have nightmares about Rattay to Edwards . . . Tech is one of our longtime rivals - but as I understand it they refuse to schedule stAte in any sport.

(10-22-2021 08:40 AM)garmen1960 Wrote:  

(10-22-2021 07:55 AM)InjunJohn86 Wrote:  

(10-22-2021 07:49 AM)Was SoMs Eagle Wrote:  I see. A lot of bad blood here. Just glad to be out of purgatory myself. Glad for the new faces. Now its time to build our program back and this is the place we can do it. Never thought I would say “thank you AAC” but a big thanks to them for indirectly getting us out of that chithole conference.

lots of bad blood and it really has nothing to do with "rivalry" but the way Tech has acted over the years on multiple occasions.

Like the year Tech refused a bowl game against ULM.?. No question La. Tech made some really bad public comments and choices over the past 10 years as they thought they found the Yellow Brick road to a pot of gold. That road just turned out to be a road to an old collapsing salt dome and the salt is now being rubbed in Bulldog wounds.

I stated on the CUSA site, if eastern and western CUSA schools get raided by AAC or MW, La Tech is in trouble. Well, guess what? My oldest son graduated there, my youngest son soon to graduate there… love the town, quintessential small town college town and they have really done a good job building up campus infrastructure, regardless of where the money came from, they used the money right.

But,,, while La. Tech was beating their chest and very publicly trashed the SBC, ULM quietly built loyalty to the SBC and now geography and the past are haunting Bulldog nation. Never say never to Tech in SBC as they have had quality wins in the past, BUT, it will take lots of (as Jimmy Buffet says), mea culpa, , mea culpa, moxi mea culpa on Techs part and then I don’t know if they will have a chance as a 3rd Louisiana school in the conference. Well played ULM, NOT SO TECH.

The biggest mistake ULM made when it jumped to D-1/FBS was not getting affiliated with a conference at the onset. We were independent for 11 years and it did us no favors with the way college football was at that time. It hurt us from the start and follow that with three presidents in a row who felt athletics weren't that important meant we regressed when we really couldn't afford to. We'd see glimpses of greatness but would never reach it. Our new president has a completely different attitude and it shows. Things are happening.

Joining the SBC as a football member in 2005 (?) as an original member was the best thing that happened to ULM. We have been loyal to the conference and have never caused waves. We're here to stay. We've had posters here who have openly wanted to dump us yet we've never said that about any other member school. We're glad to be here. I think it's great if Marshall and USM join in...not only will it improve the SBC, it'll also improve ULM.

Are they this delusional in person, or is this just a message board thing? It's literally like they haven't had access to TV or Internet and believe the year is 2008.

(10-22-2021 09:03 AM)WinstonTheWolf Wrote:  

(10-20-2021 09:35 PM)cyc46 Wrote:  

(10-20-2021 09:27 PM)Usajags Wrote:  LaTech has been independent before, they may do it again. If, TxSt were to head west to the MW or jump in the WAC when they go FBS, I could see Tech getting a look. Of course I’m old enough to still think of the Tim Rattay days of LaTech as just a couple years ago, and think of them as that team. And that’s not reality.

So you remember Troy Edwards?

I wouldn’t mind Tech coming to the SBC but I know there is a complex history there. I do love to hate Tech tho and I’d miss the opportunity to watch my Eagles destroy them.

I still have nightmares about Rattay to Edwards . . . Tech is one of our longtime rivals - but as I understand it they refuse to schedule stAte in any sport.

I'm pretty confident we were blocked by most of this previous version of CUSA. Since UNT and others left the SBC, we haven't been able to get any sort of scheduling done against that conference in just about any sport. Marshall, FAU, UTEP, UAB, and USM scheduled us some in Olympic sports, but that's all I can remember. Only football games we got were bowl games against MTSU and FIU.

(10-22-2021 09:04 AM)SOT1977 Wrote:  

(10-22-2021 08:40 AM)garmen1960 Wrote:  

(10-22-2021 07:55 AM)InjunJohn86 Wrote:  

(10-22-2021 07:49 AM)Was SoMs Eagle Wrote:  I see. A lot of bad blood here. Just glad to be out of purgatory myself. Glad for the new faces. Now its time to build our program back and this is the place we can do it. Never thought I would say “thank you AAC” but a big thanks to them for indirectly getting us out of that chithole conference.

lots of bad blood and it really has nothing to do with "rivalry" but the way Tech has acted over the years on multiple occasions.

Like the year Tech refused a bowl game against ULM.?. No question La. Tech made some really bad public comments and choices over the past 10 years as they thought they found the Yellow Brick road to a pot of gold. That road just turned out to be a road to an old collapsing salt dome and the salt is now being rubbed in Bulldog wounds.

I stated on the CUSA site, if eastern and western CUSA schools get raided by AAC or MW, La Tech is in trouble. Well, guess what? My oldest son graduated there, my youngest son soon to graduate there… love the town, quintessential small town college town and they have really done a good job building up campus infrastructure, regardless of where the money came from, they used the money right.

But,,, while La. Tech was beating their chest and very publicly trashed the SBC, ULM quietly built loyalty to the SBC and now geography and the past are haunting Bulldog nation. Never say never to Tech in SBC as they have had quality wins in the past, BUT, it will take lots of (as Jimmy Buffet says), mea culpa, , mea culpa, moxi mea culpa on Techs part and then I don’t know if they will have a chance as a 3rd Louisiana school in the conference. Well played ULM, NOT SO TECH.

The biggest mistake ULM made when it jumped to D-1/FBS was not getting affiliated with a conference at the onset. We were independent for 11 years and it did us no favors with the way college football was at that time. It hurt us from the start and follow that with three presidents in a row who felt athletics weren't that important meant we regressed when we really couldn't afford to. We'd see glimpses of greatness but would never reach it. Our new president has a completely different attitude and it shows. Things are happening.

Joining the SBC as a football member in 2005 (?) as an original member was the best thing that happened to ULM. We have been loyal to the conference and have never caused waves. We're here to stay. We've had posters here who have openly wanted to dump us yet we've never said that about any other member school. We're glad to be here. I think it's great if Marshall and USM join in...not only will it improve the SBC, it'll also improve ULM.

ULM helped build SBC Football from scratch. Without ULM it probably would not have happened. I have always been glad to have you guys in the Conference. A big . . Thank you, ULM !!

(10-22-2021 09:04 AM)SOT1977 Wrote:  

(10-22-2021 08:40 AM)garmen1960 Wrote:  

(10-22-2021 07:55 AM)InjunJohn86 Wrote:  

(10-22-2021 07:49 AM)Was SoMs Eagle Wrote:  I see. A lot of bad blood here. Just glad to be out of purgatory myself. Glad for the new faces. Now its time to build our program back and this is the place we can do it. Never thought I would say “thank you AAC” but a big thanks to them for indirectly getting us out of that chithole conference.

lots of bad blood and it really has nothing to do with "rivalry" but the way Tech has acted over the years on multiple occasions.

Like the year Tech refused a bowl game against ULM.?. No question La. Tech made some really bad public comments and choices over the past 10 years as they thought they found the Yellow Brick road to a pot of gold. That road just turned out to be a road to an old collapsing salt dome and the salt is now being rubbed in Bulldog wounds.

I stated on the CUSA site, if eastern and western CUSA schools get raided by AAC or MW, La Tech is in trouble. Well, guess what? My oldest son graduated there, my youngest son soon to graduate there… love the town, quintessential small town college town and they have really done a good job building up campus infrastructure, regardless of where the money came from, they used the money right.

But,,, while La. Tech was beating their chest and very publicly trashed the SBC, ULM quietly built loyalty to the SBC and now geography and the past are haunting Bulldog nation. Never say never to Tech in SBC as they have had quality wins in the past, BUT, it will take lots of (as Jimmy Buffet says), mea culpa, , mea culpa, moxi mea culpa on Techs part and then I don’t know if they will have a chance as a 3rd Louisiana school in the conference. Well played ULM, NOT SO TECH.

The biggest mistake ULM made when it jumped to D-1/FBS was not getting affiliated with a conference at the onset. We were independent for 11 years and it did us no favors with the way college football was at that time. It hurt us from the start and follow that with three presidents in a row who felt athletics weren't that important meant we regressed when we really couldn't afford to. We'd see glimpses of greatness but would never reach it. Our new president has a completely different attitude and it shows. Things are happening.

Joining the SBC as a football member in 2005 (?) as an original member was the best thing that happened to ULM. We have been loyal to the conference and have never caused waves. We're here to stay. We've had posters here who have openly wanted to dump us yet we've never said that about any other member school. We're glad to be here. I think it's great if Marshall and USM join in...not only will it improve the SBC, it'll also improve ULM.

In Athletic analogy, ULM is the Vanderbilt of the SBC. A loyal team that occasionally pulls a football rabbit out of its hat and competes. Come a long way you have on such a small budget. Your coaching staff is an eclectic group of well known names who have come together, not for prestigious settings, but to see if they can build a big something out of not so big resources. Now that’s what college football should be all about.

(10-22-2021 09:10 AM)ericsaid Wrote:  Are they this delusional in person, or is this just a message board thing? It's literally like they haven't had access to TV or Internet and believe the year is 2008.

Like most fan bases, you get all types. A lot I meet understand the stupidity of ULM and Tech not playing every year. But you do find quite a few that go beyond the typical "we are better than you" back and forth and they actually believe they are so much superior, not only to ULM but the rest of the SBC. To the point of thinking that if ULM and Tech were to play it should be a 2 for 1, as if they were an SEC team. Unfortunately, the admin, major donors, and the vocal posters fall into the later "we are superior" category. I liken it to someone who grew up with you, poor. Then they land a decent job, start living beyond their means, and then look down their nose at you. Job goes away, they fall on hard times, but still think they are superior and maintain airs as their bank account empties.

(10-22-2021 09:04 AM)SOT1977 Wrote:  

(10-22-2021 08:40 AM)garmen1960 Wrote:  

(10-22-2021 07:55 AM)InjunJohn86 Wrote:  

(10-22-2021 07:49 AM)Was SoMs Eagle Wrote:  I see. A lot of bad blood here. Just glad to be out of purgatory myself. Glad for the new faces. Now its time to build our program back and this is the place we can do it. Never thought I would say “thank you AAC” but a big thanks to them for indirectly getting us out of that chithole conference.

lots of bad blood and it really has nothing to do with "rivalry" but the way Tech has acted over the years on multiple occasions.

Like the year Tech refused a bowl game against ULM.?. No question La. Tech made some really bad public comments and choices over the past 10 years as they thought they found the Yellow Brick road to a pot of gold. That road just turned out to be a road to an old collapsing salt dome and the salt is now being rubbed in Bulldog wounds.

I stated on the CUSA site, if eastern and western CUSA schools get raided by AAC or MW, La Tech is in trouble. Well, guess what? My oldest son graduated there, my youngest son soon to graduate there… love the town, quintessential small town college town and they have really done a good job building up campus infrastructure, regardless of where the money came from, they used the money right.

But,,, while La. Tech was beating their chest and very publicly trashed the SBC, ULM quietly built loyalty to the SBC and now geography and the past are haunting Bulldog nation. Never say never to Tech in SBC as they have had quality wins in the past, BUT, it will take lots of (as Jimmy Buffet says), mea culpa, , mea culpa, moxi mea culpa on Techs part and then I don’t know if they will have a chance as a 3rd Louisiana school in the conference. Well played ULM, NOT SO TECH.

The biggest mistake ULM made when it jumped to D-1/FBS was not getting affiliated with a conference at the onset. We were independent for 11 years and it did us no favors with the way college football was at that time. It hurt us from the start and follow that with three presidents in a row who felt athletics weren't that important meant we regressed when we really couldn't afford to. We'd see glimpses of greatness but would never reach it. Our new president has a completely different attitude and it shows. Things are happening.

Joining the SBC as a football member in 2005 (?) as an original member was the best thing that happened to ULM. We have been loyal to the conference and have never caused waves. We're here to stay. We've had posters here who have openly wanted to dump us yet we've never said that about any other member school. We're glad to be here. I think it's great if Marshall and USM join in...not only will it improve the SBC, it'll also improve ULM.

SOT, as a Cajun fan, I obviously have said some unkind things about ULM. That being said, the Warhawks have no doubt been a good conference mate and have been very consistent in their unwavering support of all things SBC. Even as regards the Cajuns, ULM as an institution has supported our branding efforts as much as any other school in the conference, even though that support has not been popular with many of their fans and supporters.

I can assure you that institutionally UL has your back, regardless of what some of our fans say.

There is no question La. Tech would make the three major men's sports better.

There is also no question that doesn't make them worthy of joining our league.

For all reasons previously mentioned.

I was a student at “USL” from 1975 - 1979, and loved playing Tech.. Some of my greatest football memories were playing Tech, and USM…
I do feel for tech and hate to run their noses in the ground while they are looking ahead to unknown times…. I would love to start playing tech again, but I do not think there is room for 3 Louisiana teams in the SBC…

As a student and Alumni I was a big proponent of the name change to the University of Louisiana, and for some reason Tech supporters wont call us UL or Louisiana…. They have a great school and a great athletic program, but comparing us and them is like comparing Apples and Oranges….

Different towns, different cultures, different programs..

I wish tech the best…

(10-22-2021 09:04 AM)SOT1977 Wrote:  

(10-22-2021 08:40 AM)garmen1960 Wrote:  

(10-22-2021 07:55 AM)InjunJohn86 Wrote:  

(10-22-2021 07:49 AM)Was SoMs Eagle Wrote:  I see. A lot of bad blood here. Just glad to be out of purgatory myself. Glad for the new faces. Now its time to build our program back and this is the place we can do it. Never thought I would say “thank you AAC” but a big thanks to them for indirectly getting us out of that chithole conference.

lots of bad blood and it really has nothing to do with "rivalry" but the way Tech has acted over the years on multiple occasions.

Like the year Tech refused a bowl game against ULM.?. No question La. Tech made some really bad public comments and choices over the past 10 years as they thought they found the Yellow Brick road to a pot of gold. That road just turned out to be a road to an old collapsing salt dome and the salt is now being rubbed in Bulldog wounds.

I stated on the CUSA site, if eastern and western CUSA schools get raided by AAC or MW, La Tech is in trouble. Well, guess what? My oldest son graduated there, my youngest son soon to graduate there… love the town, quintessential small town college town and they have really done a good job building up campus infrastructure, regardless of where the money came from, they used the money right.

But,,, while La. Tech was beating their chest and very publicly trashed the SBC, ULM quietly built loyalty to the SBC and now geography and the past are haunting Bulldog nation. Never say never to Tech in SBC as they have had quality wins in the past, BUT, it will take lots of (as Jimmy Buffet says), mea culpa, , mea culpa, moxi mea culpa on Techs part and then I don’t know if they will have a chance as a 3rd Louisiana school in the conference. Well played ULM, NOT SO TECH.

The biggest mistake ULM made when it jumped to D-1/FBS was not getting affiliated with a conference at the onset. We were independent for 11 years and it did us no favors with the way college football was at that time. It hurt us from the start and follow that with three presidents in a row who felt athletics weren't that important meant we regressed when we really couldn't afford to. We'd see glimpses of greatness but would never reach it. Our new president has a completely different attitude and it shows. Things are happening.

Joining the SBC as a football member in 2005 (?) as an original member was the best thing that happened to ULM. We have been loyal to the conference and have never caused waves. We're here to stay. We've had posters here who have openly wanted to dump us yet we've never said that about any other member school. We're glad to be here. I think it's great if Marshall and USM join in...not only will it improve the SBC, it'll also improve ULM.

ULM joined the Sunbelt in 2001 as a football member. We were a 1A/FBS Independent from 94-2000. Before that they were routinely an FCS/1AA powerhouse along with Marshall, Ga Southern, etc.