It'll be 9. I don't see any possible way they drop to 8

https://amp.star-telegram.com/sports/col...62644.html

Jackson

Interesting read: 1-3 divisions

I don't like the idea of pods. At all. Sorry. The only way that would work is if we expanded to 16, and even then, I don't like it.

(03-20-2022 10:56 AM)GeminiCoog Wrote:  I don't like the idea of pods. At all. Sorry. The only way that would work is if we expanded to 16, and even then, I don't like it.

Once you get to 16 pods are absolutely incredible. Before 16 no way.

I heard from a reliable source the league will be going to a 12 division format

(03-20-2022 03:26 PM)WhoseHouse? Wrote:  I heard from a reliable source the league will be going to a 12 division format

for 14 teams?

(03-21-2022 02:48 PM)Huan Wrote:  

(03-20-2022 03:26 PM)WhoseHouse? Wrote:  I heard from a reliable source the league will be going to a 12 division format

for 14 teams?

For 11

No divisions. No pods (unless we're @ 16). Just protected rivalries and rotate the rest. Top two finishers play in the conference title game. Tie breakers determined by coach's poll.

I do believe there's merit to an 8 game conference schedule- A.K.A. the SEC model. More scheduling freedom for out-of-conference rivalries and a better chance for bottom dwellers to reach bowl eligibility. More bowl eligible teams = more money.

Interesting…

(03-22-2022 06:04 PM)BraveKnight Wrote:  

Interesting…

I like it. BYU-Baylor has potential to become a great rivalry and frequent road games within driving distance of Nauvoo, Illinois and Jackson County, Missouri. :)

Keep the legacy Big 8 together and give them access to Texas with the @Baylor game every other year, plus TCU, Houston, and Texas Tech as part of the cross-division rotation. Stack the cross-division schedules pretty easily and keep the legacy Big 12 schools in Texas every year.

(03-22-2022 06:32 PM)YNot Wrote:  

(03-22-2022 06:04 PM)BraveKnight Wrote:  

Interesting…

I like it. BYU-Baylor has potential to become a great rivalry and frequent road games within driving distance of Nauvoo, Illinois and Jackson County, Missouri. :)

Keep the legacy Big 8 together and give them access to Texas with the @Baylor game every other year, plus TCU, Houston, and Texas Tech as part of the cross-division rotation. Stack the cross-division schedules pretty easily and keep the legacy Big 12 schools in Texas every year.

Meh. It's just alphabetical with the existing members, then the new additions tacked onto the front and back.

First, it's been well publicized that there has been no discussion by the schools regarding divisions and won't be until meetings later this year.

Second, it's alphabetical by the school name. Baylor University is under B. The University of Houston is under U, then H. Doesn't reflect too well for the education level of the person who posted that and the school they support that this wasn't obvious to them. Yes, they listed themselves first instead of alphabetically, but that's the lone exception.

You mix a bit of Cincy, WV, and UCF in one bowl, stir thoroughly. Then in separate bowl add some OK state, BYU, and Kansas

https://theathletic.com/3222097/2022/03/...ed_article
This shares some in depth insight into our discussion. Very interesting.

I’m in the camp that says that those aren’t the divisions. TCU-Baylor ought to be in the same division or protected crossover.

There’s also the fact that BYU listed themselves first, then the rest of the old members alphabetically, then the other 3 new schools alphabetically.

I think 2 have to be added in order to maintain the rivalries of the “more original 6”: ISU, Kan, KSt, OKs, Bay, TTU

The remaining “non-brand-new 2”, WV and TCU can spit the difference, where, TCU goes with “orig 6” and WV gets “better travel than (current) Big12-10” with UC, UCF, USF, Hou, BYU and SMU or Memphis. Even with BYU in Mountaineer’s division, WV will still have better travel than current.

Classics Div: ISU, Kan, KSt, OKs, TTU, Bay, TCU

Greats(?) Div: WV, Cin, UCF, USF, Hou, BYU, SMU or Mem

(04-09-2022 11:40 AM)Fresno Fanatic Wrote:  I think 2 have to be added in order to maintain the rivalries of the “more original 6”: ISU, Kan, KSt, OKs, Bay, TTU

The remaining “non-brand-new 2”, WV and TCU can spit the difference, where, TCU goes with “orig 6” and WV gets “better travel than (current) Big12-10” with UC, UCF, USF, Hou, BYU and SMU or Memphis. Even with BYU in Mountaineer’s division, WV will still have better travel than current.

Classics Div: ISU, Kan, KSt, OKs, TTU, Bay, TCU

Greats(?) Div: WV, Cin, UCF, USF, Hou, BYU, SMU or Mem

(If Big 12 decides to)Go to 16 like the SEC, then…

East: WV, Cin, UCF, USF, Mem, Tulane, Hou, SMU

West: BYU, ISU, Kan, KSt, OKs, TTU, Bay, TCU

Looks very good to me! I’d rather have Tulane than Boise or Colorado State, honestly. And I’m not saying that ONLY because I don’t want MW raided. Seriously!…New Orleans better than Fort Collins or Idaho. And, although Tulane has less football-upside than CSU and Boise, I think basketball would flourish. And I think geography trumps the smidgen(!) less (overall)football power.

Give the 4 newest of newbies a smaller slice of the conference revenue pie to compensate…they’d gladly be ok with that, all things considered. Just give them what they have currently plus enough to keep good coaches and better recruiting budgets…their increase in home game attendance (revenue) would also be there for them.

Edit: Ok, Mountaineers won’t like that (initial) football SOS…so!…swap BYU and UWV for football divisions only. Then! Steal Creighton from Big East, add in VCU and Saint Louis for 19 basketball/other-oly teams. Do single round robin in basketball for 18 games (don’t go to 20 game conference basketball season like everyone else is talking of so 2 more good OOC games can be scheduled). WV in that football division, only! football!, would be travel budget manageable. And MUCH better than their current conference travel budget.

(04-09-2022 12:59 PM)Fresno Fanatic Wrote:  

(04-09-2022 11:40 AM)Fresno Fanatic Wrote:  I think 2 have to be added in order to maintain the rivalries of the “more original 6”: ISU, Kan, KSt, OKs, Bay, TTU

The remaining “non-brand-new 2”, WV and TCU can spit the difference, where, TCU goes with “orig 6” and WV gets “better travel than (current) Big12-10” with UC, UCF, USF, Hou, BYU and SMU or Memphis. Even with BYU in Mountaineer’s division, WV will still have better travel than current.

Classics Div: ISU, Kan, KSt, OKs, TTU, Bay, TCU

Greats(?) Div: WV, Cin, UCF, USF, Hou, BYU, SMU or Mem

(If Big 12 decides to)Go to 16 like the SEC, then…

East: WV, Cin, UCF, USF, Mem, Tulane, Hou, SMU

West: BYU, ISU, Kan, KSt, OKs, TTU, Bay, TCU

Looks very good to me! I’d rather have Tulane than Boise or Colorado State, honestly. And I’m not saying that ONLY because I don’t want MW raided. Seriously!…New Orleans better than Fort Collins or Idaho. And, although Tulane has less football-upside than CSU and Boise, I think basketball would flourish. And I think geography trumps the smidgen(!) less (overall)football power.

Give the 4 newest of newbies a smaller slice of the conference revenue pie to compensate…they’d gladly be ok with that, all things considered. Just give them what they have currently plus enough to keep good coaches and better recruiting budgets…their increase in home game attendance (revenue) would also be there for them.

Edit: Ok, Mountaineers won’t like that (initial) football SOS…so!…swap BYU and UWV for football divisions only. Then! Steal Creighton from Big East, add in VCU and Saint Louis for 19 basketball/other-oly teams. Do single round robin in basketball for 18 games (don’t go to 20 game conference basketball season like everyone else is talking of so 2 more good OOC games can be scheduled). WV in that football division, only! football!, would be travel budget manageable. And MUCH better than their current conference travel budget.

On second thought, no need to “steal” Creighton, really. Have 2 divisions of 10 for non-football…

East: VCU, WV, Cin, Mem, STL, UCF, USF, Tuln, Hou

West: BYU, ISU, Kan, KSt, OKs, TTU, Bay, TCU, SMU

This way can have double round robin within divisions, then, 2 to 4 crossover games.

And have football, this…

Classics Div: WV, ISU, Kan, KSt, OKs, TTU, Bay, TCU

Greats(?) Div: BYU, SMU, Hou, Tuln, Mem, Cin, UCF, USF

A smidge extra - on top of what they’d (newbie/Greats division members) get anyway - to compensate for football travel…MAYBE!?!?

On 3rd thought, and if WV likes - and they might - could swap Houston and WV in (my) football divisions since WV would rather have Florida recruiting than texas…and they’d still have Texas, so, good reply, Houston fan.
/ @CharlieBroadway… You’re probably right. (???)

Why would any of TCU, Baylor, Tech willingly choose to have less access/visibility to the Houston market than the other Texas schools? Furthermore, just based on public comments I can see Mike Gundy pushing for Oklahoma State to be in the same division as the Texas schools for recruiting purposes.