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RE: Mountain West talking expansion
(10-15-2021 02:41 PM)MinerInWisconsin Wrote:  
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(10-15-2021 02:13 PM)olliebaba Wrote:  As good as UTEP's prestige as a Tier One University makes it look scholastically now I don't think our sports programs garner any interest. Cusa for one is not a proponent for UTEP. They would rather not have to travel all the way to El Paso and I don't blame them as UTEP also has to travel to the other schools. UTEP would fit in perfectly in the MW but they don't want us. It comes down to egos from those MW schools. It's just like the poorest person who makes a little more money than the other poor doofus thinking that they are better. Look at the schools already in the MW, none of them could/should have their nose in the air concerning UTEP as they're in the same boat. I know that us Miner fans feel for Enemas U. the same as the MW members feel about us, we think we're above them.

The only thing that will come out of all these expansions is that UTEP can use that money from the exiting teams. Ifus I'm wrong and the MW has changed their minds about admitting us (I doubt it) then they should wait until the exiting Cusa teams pay up and then we can afford the exit fee and entrance fee ourselves to the MW.

AD's in the mwc have made it clear they want big populated areas in Texas. That starts with dfw and Houston. Then comes San Antonio.

Yeah but Marty Robbins wrote one of my favorite country songs ever and it's not about Houston or DFW.
Alright, I love that song too. Maybe I should send it to all the mwc leaders so El Paso is in their heads. Could work.

I have always preferred the "sequel", El Paso City
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RE: Mountain West talking expansion
(10-15-2021 03:44 PM)LaTechBanjo Wrote:  
(10-15-2021 03:32 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  Tech fan really seems to be hoping for a lifeline that doesn't involve the horror of the Sun-Belt looking like the best option.

Tech was in the WAC for 12 years with 6 current members of the MWC.

By all accounts, Tech had a great relationship with the other WAC members but geography was a huge issue after SMU, Tulsa, and Rice left. We left on good terms when the WAC was gutted.

If they dip into Texas and bring in 3+ schools, then I actually see how Tech would be an easy option for the MWC.

The MWC is for certain a better option than both C-USA and the Sun-Belt. I'm saying I highly doubt they are interested and if both they and the AAC take bites out of C-USA there's going to be a really tough decision for La Tech to make.
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RE: Mountain West talking expansion
(10-15-2021 03:51 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  
(10-15-2021 03:44 PM)LaTechBanjo Wrote:  
(10-15-2021 03:32 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  Tech fan really seems to be hoping for a lifeline that doesn't involve the horror of the Sun-Belt looking like the best option.

Tech was in the WAC for 12 years with 6 current members of the MWC.

By all accounts, Tech had a great relationship with the other WAC members but geography was a huge issue after SMU, Tulsa, and Rice left. We left on good terms when the WAC was gutted.

If they dip into Texas and bring in 3+ schools, then I actually see how Tech would be an easy option for the MWC.

The MWC is for certain a better option than both C-USA and the Sun-Belt. I'm saying I highly doubt they are interested and if both they and the AAC take bites out of C-USA there's going to be a really tough decision for La Tech to make.
I would relish the opportunity to have to choose between AAC and MWC. Only time will tell how this is going to play out. Exciting times.
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RE: Mountain West talking expansion
(10-15-2021 04:00 PM)pilot172000 Wrote:  
(10-15-2021 03:51 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  
(10-15-2021 03:44 PM)LaTechBanjo Wrote:  
(10-15-2021 03:32 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  Tech fan really seems to be hoping for a lifeline that doesn't involve the horror of the Sun-Belt looking like the best option.

Tech was in the WAC for 12 years with 6 current members of the MWC.

By all accounts, Tech had a great relationship with the other WAC members but geography was a huge issue after SMU, Tulsa, and Rice left. We left on good terms when the WAC was gutted.

If they dip into Texas and bring in 3+ schools, then I actually see how Tech would be an easy option for the MWC.

The MWC is for certain a better option than both C-USA and the Sun-Belt. I'm saying I highly doubt they are interested and if both they and the AAC take bites out of C-USA there's going to be a really tough decision for La Tech to make.
I would relish the opportunity to have to choose between AAC and MWC. Only time will tell how this is going to play out. Exciting times.

I'd relish the opportunity for ECU to have to choose from the ACC and the SEC, but I have a feeling there's a lot better chance you are going to be choosing between an even further gutted C-USA or the Sun-Belt.
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RE: Mountain West talking expansion
(10-15-2021 04:10 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  
(10-15-2021 04:00 PM)pilot172000 Wrote:  
(10-15-2021 03:51 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  
(10-15-2021 03:44 PM)LaTechBanjo Wrote:  
(10-15-2021 03:32 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  Tech fan really seems to be hoping for a lifeline that doesn't involve the horror of the Sun-Belt looking like the best option.

Tech was in the WAC for 12 years with 6 current members of the MWC.

By all accounts, Tech had a great relationship with the other WAC members but geography was a huge issue after SMU, Tulsa, and Rice left. We left on good terms when the WAC was gutted.

If they dip into Texas and bring in 3+ schools, then I actually see how Tech would be an easy option for the MWC.

The MWC is for certain a better option than both C-USA and the Sun-Belt. I'm saying I highly doubt they are interested and if both they and the AAC take bites out of C-USA there's going to be a really tough decision for La Tech to make.
I would relish the opportunity to have to choose between AAC and MWC. Only time will tell how this is going to play out. Exciting times.

I'd relish the opportunity for ECU to have to choose from the ACC and the SEC, but I have a feeling there's a lot better chance you are going to be choosing between an even further gutted C-USA or the Sun-Belt.

You sir are going to be the first ******* I will thumb my nose at when things go our way. You contrarian little twit.
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RE: Mountain West talking expansion
(10-15-2021 02:15 PM)herdfan129 Wrote:  Dear baby Jesus, please let the MWC take all of the Texas teams....not just for us, but for them too.

Amen.
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RE: Mountain West talking expansion
(10-15-2021 02:50 PM)GreenBison Wrote:  
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(10-15-2021 01:50 PM)pilot172000 Wrote:  Its coming. How the AAC chooses will determine how bad the MWC guts CUSA.

If he's smart (and so far he hasn't indicated that he is) Thompson would go ahead and invite UTSA and UNT now instead on waiting for the AAC to make the first move. The MWC isn't going to gut CUSA on it's own. It will be a combination of conferences gutting CUSA.

You know UTEP and NMSU has reached out to the MWC. I would think UTSA and UNT has done the same. If the conference loses Boise St I would think they would want to add three schools and it would be pretty simple to add UNT, UTSA, and UTEP. It would probably also allow Thompson to get the current payout intact and maybe even CBS/Fox to add a little money to the coffers.
They are actually waiting to see what cards the AAC plays. If the AAC picks all Eastern teams, that would put Tulsa and SMU as the only schools West of the Mississippi. They could then poach them and grab two others out of the CUSA West. The AAC would then have to choose between what's left of the CUSA West or to leave everything West of Tulane and Memphis. If the AAC grabs two from CUSA West, they can grab who they choose from the rest including Rice, UNT, UTSA, Tech or UTEP.

If I was MW I would invite the CUSA West schools that the AAC is talking too, forcing the AAC to pick the left overs and further weakening the AAC.

That's what he'll do.
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RE: Mountain West talking expansion
(10-15-2021 04:33 PM)Ourland Wrote:  
(10-15-2021 02:50 PM)GreenBison Wrote:  
(10-15-2021 02:45 PM)pilot172000 Wrote:  
(10-15-2021 02:41 PM)HiddenDragon Wrote:  
(10-15-2021 01:50 PM)pilot172000 Wrote:  Its coming. How the AAC chooses will determine how bad the MWC guts CUSA.

If he's smart (and so far he hasn't indicated that he is) Thompson would go ahead and invite UTSA and UNT now instead on waiting for the AAC to make the first move. The MWC isn't going to gut CUSA on it's own. It will be a combination of conferences gutting CUSA.

You know UTEP and NMSU has reached out to the MWC. I would think UTSA and UNT has done the same. If the conference loses Boise St I would think they would want to add three schools and it would be pretty simple to add UNT, UTSA, and UTEP. It would probably also allow Thompson to get the current payout intact and maybe even CBS/Fox to add a little money to the coffers.
They are actually waiting to see what cards the AAC plays. If the AAC picks all Eastern teams, that would put Tulsa and SMU as the only schools West of the Mississippi. They could then poach them and grab two others out of the CUSA West. The AAC would then have to choose between what's left of the CUSA West or to leave everything West of Tulane and Memphis. If the AAC grabs two from CUSA West, they can grab who they choose from the rest including Rice, UNT, UTSA, Tech or UTEP.

If I was MW I would invite the CUSA West schools that the AAC is talking too, forcing the AAC to pick the left overs and further weakening the AAC.

That's what he'll do.

Which makes me feel like he is already talking to UTSA and Rice. They would rather not spend the cash to get into the AAC if the MWC is an option. In a way I don't blame them, but I feel like the AAC with ESPN's backing is the better long term bet. Especially if the requirement to get in is updating facilities. Updated facilities would mean a higher standards and a competitive advantage over those in the MWC or CUSA.
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RE: Mountain West talking expansion
(10-15-2021 03:16 PM)HiddenDragon Wrote:  
(10-15-2021 02:45 PM)pilot172000 Wrote:  
(10-15-2021 02:41 PM)HiddenDragon Wrote:  
(10-15-2021 01:50 PM)pilot172000 Wrote:  Its coming. How the AAC chooses will determine how bad the MWC guts CUSA.

If he's smart (and so far he hasn't indicated that he is) Thompson would go ahead and invite UTSA and UNT now instead on waiting for the AAC to make the first move. The MWC isn't going to gut CUSA on it's own. It will be a combination of conferences gutting CUSA.

You know UTEP and NMSU has reached out to the MWC. I would think UTSA and UNT has done the same. If the conference loses Boise St I would think they would want to add three schools and it would be pretty simple to add UNT, UTSA, and UTEP. It would probably also allow Thompson to get the current payout intact and maybe even CBS/Fox to add a little money to the coffers.
They are actually waiting to see what cards the AAC plays. If the AAC picks all Eastern teams, that would put Tulsa and SMU as the only schools West of the Mississippi. They could then poach them and grab two others out of the CUSA West. The AAC would then have to choose between what's left of the CUSA West or to leave everything West of Tulane and Memphis. If the AAC grabs two from CUSA West, they can grab who they choose from the rest including Rice, UNT, UTSA, Tech or UTEP.

So unless the AAC is on the verge of collapsing I don't see either Tulsa or SMU paying a 10 million dollar exit fee to join the MWC. And not that they couldn't afford it but I just don't see them doing it, especially SMU.

The MWC could still add UNT and UTSA now and wait to see what the AAC does.

No AAC school is leaving. None of them will pay a $10mil exit fee to make similar money. The MWC has its eye on UTSA, Rice, and North Texas. Thompson has to gauge interest from those schools because he doesn't want to invite one that is already favoring the AAC. Personally, I'd rather Rice be in the MWC. I don't like Aresco, and the MWC is a more stable conference.
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RE: Mountain West talking expansion
(10-15-2021 03:24 PM)pilot172000 Wrote:  
(10-15-2021 03:20 PM)Side.Show.Joe Wrote:  
(10-15-2021 02:15 PM)herdfan129 Wrote:  Dear baby Jesus, please let the MWC take all of the Texas teams....not just for us, but for them too.

Thompson and the MWC isn't interested in taking all of the Texas schools. I think only the two mentioned in the article are going to be thrown a lifeline.

The numbers for adding a third Texas program doesn't really work, but a third Texas program might find their way into the mix, but only they really sell Thompson on their commitment to growing in the MWC. That's my take anyway.

They will need 4 teams to get to 16. UNT, UTSA, Rice and Tech would all be together regionally as a pod. That is 3 workable travel games for the group together. If not Tech or UTSA then UTEP. Tech played in the WAC like this for years and loved it. Having three Texas teams in the fold would have Tech jumping at it if offered. Then again Tech going into the AAC is a possibility because it means Tulsa and SMU would have a bridge to the rest of the AAC. Who really knows?

I hope it happens, but I doubt they go to 16. I'd love to be in a pod with UTSA, North Texas, and Louisiana Tech. Life couldn't get much better than that.
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IMO, this puts pressure on the AAC to take RICE. Huge market (more than San A.) for RECRUITS, student recruits, and media. This of course would require the Owls to guarantee increases in athletics monies. They would also be a better "fit" with the other AAC privates. Rice fan comments-- what do you hear/know?


Additionally, this threat from the MW might get the AAC to add TWO teams from Texas if they want to reduce the MW influence in the Lone Star state and force them to take their third or fourth choice. Taking two would also show a strong commitment to SMU, Tulsa, and even Wichita St. making them less likely to consider shifting to the MW.


A strong move by the AAC into Texas (two new teams) might even be enough to scare off the MW if they are on the fence about Texas.
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RE: Mountain West talking expansion
(10-15-2021 04:41 PM)Ourland Wrote:  
(10-15-2021 03:24 PM)pilot172000 Wrote:  
(10-15-2021 03:20 PM)Side.Show.Joe Wrote:  
(10-15-2021 02:15 PM)herdfan129 Wrote:  Dear baby Jesus, please let the MWC take all of the Texas teams....not just for us, but for them too.

Thompson and the MWC isn't interested in taking all of the Texas schools. I think only the two mentioned in the article are going to be thrown a lifeline.

The numbers for adding a third Texas program doesn't really work, but a third Texas program might find their way into the mix, but only they really sell Thompson on their commitment to growing in the MWC. That's my take anyway.

They will need 4 teams to get to 16. UNT, UTSA, Rice and Tech would all be together regionally as a pod. That is 3 workable travel games for the group together. If not Tech or UTSA then UTEP. Tech played in the WAC like this for years and loved it. Having three Texas teams in the fold would have Tech jumping at it if offered. Then again Tech going into the AAC is a possibility because it means Tulsa and SMU would have a bridge to the rest of the AAC. Who really knows?

I hope it happens, but I doubt they go to 16. I'd love to be in a pod with UTSA, North Texas, and Louisiana Tech. Life couldn't get much better than that.
I feel stronger about 16 than I do 14 for several reasons. One is the fact that the pod situation is the only way that it would be long term feasible for two Texas teams. CBS is going to want larger CST markets so why not pick three with SA, Houston and Dallas? The fourth team would be either UTEP or Tech who both have a long standing history with teams in the MWC (WAC).
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RE: Mountain West talking expansion
(10-15-2021 04:37 PM)pilot172000 Wrote:  
(10-15-2021 04:33 PM)Ourland Wrote:  
(10-15-2021 02:50 PM)GreenBison Wrote:  
(10-15-2021 02:45 PM)pilot172000 Wrote:  
(10-15-2021 02:41 PM)HiddenDragon Wrote:  If he's smart (and so far he hasn't indicated that he is) Thompson would go ahead and invite UTSA and UNT now instead on waiting for the AAC to make the first move. The MWC isn't going to gut CUSA on it's own. It will be a combination of conferences gutting CUSA.

You know UTEP and NMSU has reached out to the MWC. I would think UTSA and UNT has done the same. If the conference loses Boise St I would think they would want to add three schools and it would be pretty simple to add UNT, UTSA, and UTEP. It would probably also allow Thompson to get the current payout intact and maybe even CBS/Fox to add a little money to the coffers.
They are actually waiting to see what cards the AAC plays. If the AAC picks all Eastern teams, that would put Tulsa and SMU as the only schools West of the Mississippi. They could then poach them and grab two others out of the CUSA West. The AAC would then have to choose between what's left of the CUSA West or to leave everything West of Tulane and Memphis. If the AAC grabs two from CUSA West, they can grab who they choose from the rest including Rice, UNT, UTSA, Tech or UTEP.

If I was MW I would invite the CUSA West schools that the AAC is talking too, forcing the AAC to pick the left overs and further weakening the AAC.

That's what he'll do.

Which makes me feel like he is already talking to UTSA and Rice. They would rather not spend the cash to get into the AAC if the MWC is an option. In a way I don't blame them, but I feel like the AAC with ESPN's backing is the better long term bet. Especially if the requirement to get in is updating facilities. Updated facilities would mean a higher standards and a competitive advantage over those in the MWC or CUSA.

I have heard from a very credible source on Parliament that the Rice AD is having very serious discussions with donors and board members about renovating Rice Stadium. It's no coincidence. Something is going on. We're trying to increase our budget and renovate our stadium to meet the standards of the AAC or MWC. Rice would never to hit up athletic donors unless something drastic was in the works.
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RE: Mountain West talking expansion
(10-15-2021 03:20 PM)Side.Show.Joe Wrote:  
(10-15-2021 02:15 PM)herdfan129 Wrote:  

Thompson and the MWC isn't interested in taking all of the Texas schools. I think only the two mentioned in the article are going to be thrown a lifeline.

The numbers for adding a third Texas program doesn't really work, but a third Texas program might find their way into the mix, but only they really sell Thompson on their commitment to growing in the MWC. That's my take anyway.

Ourland... I'm hearing similar things about Rice.
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RE: Mountain West talking expansion
(10-15-2021 04:47 PM)Ourland Wrote:  
(10-15-2021 04:37 PM)pilot172000 Wrote:  
(10-15-2021 04:33 PM)Ourland Wrote:  
(10-15-2021 02:50 PM)GreenBison Wrote:  
(10-15-2021 02:45 PM)pilot172000 Wrote:  They are actually waiting to see what cards the AAC plays. If the AAC picks all Eastern teams, that would put Tulsa and SMU as the only schools West of the Mississippi. They could then poach them and grab two others out of the CUSA West. The AAC would then have to choose between what's left of the CUSA West or to leave everything West of Tulane and Memphis. If the AAC grabs two from CUSA West, they can grab who they choose from the rest including Rice, UNT, UTSA, Tech or UTEP.

If I was MW I would invite the CUSA West schools that the AAC is talking too, forcing the AAC to pick the left overs and further weakening the AAC.

That's what he'll do.

Which makes me feel like he is already talking to UTSA and Rice. They would rather not spend the cash to get into the AAC if the MWC is an option. In a way I don't blame them, but I feel like the AAC with ESPN's backing is the better long term bet. Especially if the requirement to get in is updating facilities. Updated facilities would mean a higher standards and a competitive advantage over those in the MWC or CUSA.

I have heard from a very credible source on Parliament that the Rice AD is having very serious discussions with donors and board members about renovating Rice Stadium. It's no coincidence. Something is going on. We're trying to increase our budget and renovate our stadium to meet the standards of the AAC or MWC. Rice would never to hit up athletic donors unless something drastic was in the works.

Things are about to get very interesting.
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RE: Mountain West talking expansion
(10-15-2021 04:26 PM)pilot172000 Wrote:  
(10-15-2021 04:10 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  
(10-15-2021 04:00 PM)pilot172000 Wrote:  
(10-15-2021 03:51 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  
(10-15-2021 03:44 PM)LaTechBanjo Wrote:  Tech was in the WAC for 12 years with 6 current members of the MWC.

By all accounts, Tech had a great relationship with the other WAC members but geography was a huge issue after SMU, Tulsa, and Rice left. We left on good terms when the WAC was gutted.

If they dip into Texas and bring in 3+ schools, then I actually see how Tech would be an easy option for the MWC.

The MWC is for certain a better option than both C-USA and the Sun-Belt. I'm saying I highly doubt they are interested and if both they and the AAC take bites out of C-USA there's going to be a really tough decision for La Tech to make.
I would relish the opportunity to have to choose between AAC and MWC. Only time will tell how this is going to play out. Exciting times.

I'd relish the opportunity for ECU to have to choose from the ACC and the SEC, but I have a feeling there's a lot better chance you are going to be choosing between an even further gutted C-USA or the Sun-Belt.

You sir are going to be the first ******* I will thumb my nose at when things go our way. You contrarian little twit.

A Sun Belt with USM and Marshall joining would be great for La Tech. Feel free to thumb your nose when that happens.
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RE: Mountain West talking expansion
(10-15-2021 04:45 PM)pilot172000 Wrote:  
(10-15-2021 04:41 PM)Ourland Wrote:  
(10-15-2021 03:24 PM)pilot172000 Wrote:  
(10-15-2021 03:20 PM)Side.Show.Joe Wrote:  
(10-15-2021 02:15 PM)herdfan129 Wrote:  Dear baby Jesus, please let the MWC take all of the Texas teams....not just for us, but for them too.

Thompson and the MWC isn't interested in taking all of the Texas schools. I think only the two mentioned in the article are going to be thrown a lifeline.

The numbers for adding a third Texas program doesn't really work, but a third Texas program might find their way into the mix, but only they really sell Thompson on their commitment to growing in the MWC. That's my take anyway.

They will need 4 teams to get to 16. UNT, UTSA, Rice and Tech would all be together regionally as a pod. That is 3 workable travel games for the group together. If not Tech or UTSA then UTEP. Tech played in the WAC like this for years and loved it. Having three Texas teams in the fold would have Tech jumping at it if offered. Then again Tech going into the AAC is a possibility because it means Tulsa and SMU would have a bridge to the rest of the AAC. Who really knows?

I hope it happens, but I doubt they go to 16. I'd love to be in a pod with UTSA, North Texas, and Louisiana Tech. Life couldn't get much better than that.
I feel stronger about 16 than I do 14 for several reasons. One is the fact that the pod situation is the only way that it would be long term feasible for two Texas teams. CBS is going to want larger CST markets so why not pick three with SA, Houston and Dallas? The fourth team would be either UTEP or Tech who both have a long standing history with teams in the MWC (WAC).

You know what happened last time it came down to LA Tech and UTEP.
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RE: Mountain West talking expansion
(10-15-2021 05:07 PM)JCMiner Wrote:  
(10-15-2021 04:45 PM)pilot172000 Wrote:  
(10-15-2021 04:41 PM)Ourland Wrote:  
(10-15-2021 03:24 PM)pilot172000 Wrote:  
(10-15-2021 03:20 PM)Side.Show.Joe Wrote:  Thompson and the MWC isn't interested in taking all of the Texas schools. I think only the two mentioned in the article are going to be thrown a lifeline.

The numbers for adding a third Texas program doesn't really work, but a third Texas program might find their way into the mix, but only they really sell Thompson on their commitment to growing in the MWC. That's my take anyway.

They will need 4 teams to get to 16. UNT, UTSA, Rice and Tech would all be together regionally as a pod. That is 3 workable travel games for the group together. If not Tech or UTSA then UTEP. Tech played in the WAC like this for years and loved it. Having three Texas teams in the fold would have Tech jumping at it if offered. Then again Tech going into the AAC is a possibility because it means Tulsa and SMU would have a bridge to the rest of the AAC. Who really knows?

I hope it happens, but I doubt they go to 16. I'd love to be in a pod with UTSA, North Texas, and Louisiana Tech. Life couldn't get much better than that.
I feel stronger about 16 than I do 14 for several reasons. One is the fact that the pod situation is the only way that it would be long term feasible for two Texas teams. CBS is going to want larger CST markets so why not pick three with SA, Houston and Dallas? The fourth team would be either UTEP or Tech who both have a long standing history with teams in the MWC (WAC).

You know what happened last time it came down to LA Tech and UTEP.

We sure do. And it better not happen again! 05-mafia

In all seriousness, I hope the dominoes fall in both our favors this time around. In spite of a game this weekend and what happened "last time"...I definitely like UTEP.
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RE: Mountain West talking expansion
(10-15-2021 05:10 PM)chuckk3 Wrote:  
(10-15-2021 05:07 PM)JCMiner Wrote:  
(10-15-2021 04:45 PM)pilot172000 Wrote:  
(10-15-2021 04:41 PM)Ourland Wrote:  
(10-15-2021 03:24 PM)pilot172000 Wrote:  They will need 4 teams to get to 16. UNT, UTSA, Rice and Tech would all be together regionally as a pod. That is 3 workable travel games for the group together. If not Tech or UTSA then UTEP. Tech played in the WAC like this for years and loved it. Having three Texas teams in the fold would have Tech jumping at it if offered. Then again Tech going into the AAC is a possibility because it means Tulsa and SMU would have a bridge to the rest of the AAC. Who really knows?

I hope it happens, but I doubt they go to 16. I'd love to be in a pod with UTSA, North Texas, and Louisiana Tech. Life couldn't get much better than that.
I feel stronger about 16 than I do 14 for several reasons. One is the fact that the pod situation is the only way that it would be long term feasible for two Texas teams. CBS is going to want larger CST markets so why not pick three with SA, Houston and Dallas? The fourth team would be either UTEP or Tech who both have a long standing history with teams in the MWC (WAC).

You know what happened last time it came down to LA Tech and UTEP.

We sure do. And it better not happen again! 05-mafia

In all seriousness, I hope the dominoes fall in both our favors this time around. In spite of a game this weekend and what happened "last time"...I definitely like UTEP.

Yea we were very lucky and it was the perfect storm. I’ve said it before that the perfect storm could be brewing again. If Dimel really has this turned around and if we hit Golding on our basketball hire. The only major difference is football doesn't have the huge crowds from the past. Even though this week could see around 30k according to sources. There is a lot of excitement around basketball and season ticket sales are strong. We're expecting the Don to return to 8k average.

In case y'all do get picked for the MW hopefully you can afford a better equipment truck. Maybe work a deal with ODU. Someone said they saw it stalled on the side of i10 outside of El Paso. The road trips are going to be much longer than that.
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RE: Mountain West talking expansion
Okay....based upon input from SSJ and others, the MWC will likely add a maximum of 2 from Texas, to go to 14 schools total:
- UNT
- UTSA


Also, based upon what the AAC needs to do to block the MWC out of Houston, the AAC will add 4 schools overall, 2 in the West and 2 in the East, to go to 12 schools total:
- Rice
- LA Tech
- UAB
- FAU


- Rice will be a perfect fit for the privates; (SMU, Tulane & Tulsa). Rice allows the AAC to keep its' presence in Houston, and **** blocks the MWC from the Houston market.

- The key will be getting Rice financially committed to the AAC. I suspect the discussions with Rice will center around how to "bend the rules" so Rice can be added to the AAC without forcing the Owls to make wholesale changes in their athletic facilities. Likewise, I'm sure Rice is astutely using the MWC's interest in Rice as leverage against the AAC. I expect the AAC and Rice to reach a compromise.

- In addition to great geography, LA Tech is a good athletic and academic fit. Much like the private schools, Tech is a small enrollment school, and has shared a conference with all 4 privates previously. Tech brings good facilities, and competitive athletic programs in football, basketball and baseball.

- UAB and FAU are obvious picks for the AAC East.

- USM likely moves to the Sunbelt for geographic reasons. Moving to the Belt will put Troy, South Alabama, ULL, ULM and the 2 Georgia schools on USM's doorstep.
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