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(10-13-2021 01:41 PM)Michael in Raleigh Wrote:  Kind of crazy thought I had.

I wonder if the Sun Belt would consider just going ahead and inviting Southern Miss and make it a formality, like tomorrow, if indeed both sides want each other. A second, or third and fourth, new member could be announced later.

The Sun Belt has reason to be a bit insulted that, with the AAC, SB, and C-USA territories all overlapping the same regions, C-USA only sent a letter to the AAC. The SB could take it as a slap in the face and just go ahead and take one of their own, which really is no different than what C-USA did to the SB with FIVE schools.

It would be petty. And it would be a gamble without a second school completely lined up. But it would also exert strength and tell the CFB world the SB it is to be taken seriously.

Possible if USM wants to but it can’t happen until the AAC officially says no to regionalization
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(10-13-2021 02:53 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  
(10-13-2021 01:41 PM)Michael in Raleigh Wrote:  Kind of crazy thought I had.

I wonder if the Sun Belt would consider just going ahead and inviting Southern Miss and make it a formality, like tomorrow, if indeed both sides want each other. A second, or third and fourth, new member could be announced later.

The Sun Belt has reason to be a bit insulted that, with the AAC, SB, and C-USA territories all overlapping the same regions, C-USA only sent a letter to the AAC. The SB could take it as a slap in the face and just go ahead and take one of their own, which really is no different than what C-USA did to the SB with FIVE schools.

It would be petty. And it would be a gamble without a second school completely lined up. But it would also exert strength and tell the CFB world the SB it is to be taken seriously.

Possible if USM wants to but it can’t happen until the AAC officially says no to regionalization

You mean officially say no to that hair brain plan that they've already all but said no to or no to regionalizing by adding teams that close in the geography gaps?
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(10-13-2021 02:56 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  
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(10-13-2021 01:41 PM)Michael in Raleigh Wrote:  Kind of crazy thought I had.

I wonder if the Sun Belt would consider just going ahead and inviting Southern Miss and make it a formality, like tomorrow, if indeed both sides want each other. A second, or third and fourth, new member could be announced later.

The Sun Belt has reason to be a bit insulted that, with the AAC, SB, and C-USA territories all overlapping the same regions, C-USA only sent a letter to the AAC. The SB could take it as a slap in the face and just go ahead and take one of their own, which really is no different than what C-USA did to the SB with FIVE schools.

It would be petty. And it would be a gamble without a second school completely lined up. But it would also exert strength and tell the CFB world the SB it is to be taken seriously.

Possible if USM wants to but it can’t happen until the AAC officially says no to regionalization

You mean officially say no to that hair brain plan that they've already all but said no to or no to regionalizing by adding teams that close in the geography gaps?

I’m talking about the more formal no response from the presidents
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(10-13-2021 11:48 AM)geauxcajuns Wrote:  I’m hearing UAB is getting cold feet. Mainly due to future instability of the AAC. They want to be in a league with Memphis. The AAC is less appealing to them if Memphis isn’t there.

The real question is, is it worth the exit/entrance fee to join a league as a short term solution?

The SBC is the most stable G5 conference and is continuing to improve. I’m sure there are discussions ongoing between who the SBC and AAC are willing to take on. But there is an outside chance the SBC adds 4. Most likely 2, I’m just ready for it to be over….at least for another 3-5 years.

Yes, not only the huge exit/entry fees to move from any conf to the aac, but also the huge necessary budget increases and worst of all the huge exit fees should you want to leave the aac if it implodes further. I can’t think of many G5 schools that could afford all of those risks but I suppose time will tell. The really great thing for UL is the fantastic leadership we have in place. If we are offered and both Dr Savoie and Dr Maggard feel it is the right move, I will know that they are a much better position to judge than we are and fully suppport what they decide to do.
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(10-13-2021 01:41 PM)Michael in Raleigh Wrote:  Kind of crazy thought I had.

I wonder if the Sun Belt would consider just going ahead and inviting Southern Miss and make it a formality, like tomorrow, if indeed both sides want each other. A second, or third and fourth, new member could be announced later.

The Sun Belt has reason to be a bit insulted that, with the AAC, SB, and C-USA territories all overlapping the same regions, C-USA only sent a letter to the AAC. The SB could take it as a slap in the face and just go ahead and take one of their own, which really is no different than what C-USA did to the SB with FIVE schools.

It would be petty. And it would be a gamble without a second school completely lined up. But it would also exert strength and tell the CFB world the SB it is to be taken seriously.

. . . my thoughts exactly, pull the trigger. Seems like both sides want it, no reason that I can see to wait on “what other conference(s) want.”
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(10-13-2021 03:17 PM)Bobcat87 Wrote:  
(10-13-2021 01:41 PM)Michael in Raleigh Wrote:  Kind of crazy thought I had.

I wonder if the Sun Belt would consider just going ahead and inviting Southern Miss and make it a formality, like tomorrow, if indeed both sides want each other. A second, or third and fourth, new member could be announced later.

The Sun Belt has reason to be a bit insulted that, with the AAC, SB, and C-USA territories all overlapping the same regions, C-USA only sent a letter to the AAC. The SB could take it as a slap in the face and just go ahead and take one of their own, which really is no different than what C-USA did to the SB with FIVE schools.

It would be petty. And it would be a gamble without a second school completely lined up. But it would also exert strength and tell the CFB world the SB it is to be taken seriously.

. . . my thoughts exactly, pull the trigger. Seems like both sides want it, no reason that I can see to wait on “what other conference(s) want.”

I'm kind of starting to wonder: DO both sides want it? Is one side or both sides getting cold feet?

(10-13-2021 02:53 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  Possible if USM wants to but it can’t happen until the AAC officially says no to regionalization.

You know far more than I do about all this stuff, but why must USM or the SB wait on the AAC, or on AAC presidents.
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If there is mutual interest, SBC should absolutely go ahead and add USM at this point. Shouldn't hurt to also help get the ball rolling with the inevitable.
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(10-13-2021 11:37 AM)BeatWestern! Wrote:  Most of this realignment should be sorted out by the end of the month.

A new solid AAC expansion rumor by the end of the month.
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(10-13-2021 01:24 PM)RamblinRedWolf Wrote:  
(10-13-2021 01:08 PM)SouthJags2012 Wrote:  Can this all be over already

I think even if AAC and Sunbelt made their moves today, realignment won't be over (especially not with Big 12 lingering on expanding further)

Yeah, I was more talking about this round of negotiations. Realignment is always going to be happening. Death, taxes, and realignment talks in college athletics are the guarantees in life.
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(10-13-2021 11:48 AM)geauxcajuns Wrote:  I’m hearing UAB is getting cold feet. Mainly due to future instability of the AAC. They want to be in a league with Memphis. The AAC is less appealing to them if Memphis isn’t there.

The real question is, is it worth the exit/entrance fee to join a league as a short term solution?

The SBC is the most stable G5 conference and is continuing to improve. I’m sure there are discussions ongoing between who the SBC and AAC are willing to take on. But there is an outside chance the SBC adds 4. Most likely 2, I’m just ready for it to be over….at least for another 3-5 years.

If UAb is ready to turn them down, the AAC is in real trouble. UAb would have jumped 3 weeks ago. If the AAC fails to find some warm bodies to start filling these holes, it could get real interesting.

I could still see App going to be with ECU, if that happened, UNCC would probably be a go as well. And the AAC will look more like the baby ACC they will eventually become.
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(10-13-2021 03:34 PM)Michael in Raleigh Wrote:  
(10-13-2021 03:17 PM)Bobcat87 Wrote:  
(10-13-2021 01:41 PM)Michael in Raleigh Wrote:  Kind of crazy thought I had.

I wonder if the Sun Belt would consider just going ahead and inviting Southern Miss and make it a formality, like tomorrow, if indeed both sides want each other. A second, or third and fourth, new member could be announced later.

The Sun Belt has reason to be a bit insulted that, with the AAC, SB, and C-USA territories all overlapping the same regions, C-USA only sent a letter to the AAC. The SB could take it as a slap in the face and just go ahead and take one of their own, which really is no different than what C-USA did to the SB with FIVE schools.

It would be petty. And it would be a gamble without a second school completely lined up. But it would also exert strength and tell the CFB world the SB it is to be taken seriously.

. . . my thoughts exactly, pull the trigger. Seems like both sides want it, no reason that I can see to wait on “what other conference(s) want.”

I'm kind of starting to wonder: DO both sides want it? Is one side or both sides getting cold feet?

(10-13-2021 02:53 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  Possible if USM wants to but it can’t happen until the AAC officially says no to regionalization.

You know far more than I do about all this stuff, but why must USM or the SB wait on the AAC, or on AAC presidents.

USM needs to be seen by boosters as at least trying to get into a league with the AAC schools somehow.
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(10-13-2021 01:18 PM)freshtop Wrote:  
(10-13-2021 01:08 PM)SouthJags2012 Wrote:  Can this all be over already

Who knows if it will ever be over, but I don't know that we get a real reprieve until 2025 (or whenever the dust settles on OU/UT actually leaving the Big 12). Gonna be a rollercoaster of knives in backs until then.

I just love the fact the Sun Belt just gave CUSA the hand from a position of power. A decade ago the Belt was going to fold up in some folk's opinion with realignment.
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(10-13-2021 04:16 PM)Usajags Wrote:  
(10-13-2021 11:48 AM)geauxcajuns Wrote:  I’m hearing UAB is getting cold feet. Mainly due to future instability of the AAC. They want to be in a league with Memphis. The AAC is less appealing to them if Memphis isn’t there.

The real question is, is it worth the exit/entrance fee to join a league as a short term solution?

The SBC is the most stable G5 conference and is continuing to improve. I’m sure there are discussions ongoing between who the SBC and AAC are willing to take on. But there is an outside chance the SBC adds 4. Most likely 2, I’m just ready for it to be over….at least for another 3-5 years.

If UAb is ready to turn them down, the AAC is in real trouble. UAb would have jumped 3 weeks ago. If the AAC fails to find some warm bodies to start filling these holes, it could get real interesting.

I could still see App going to be with ECU, if that happened, UNCC would probably be a go as well. And the AAC will look more like the baby ACC they will eventually become.

I could dream up a scenario where the SBC goes to 16.

Invites sent to:
ECU
Marshall
WKU
UAB
UTSA
USM

Scheduling pods.

NE:
ECU
Marshall
Appalachian St
Coastal

East:
GaSo
GaSt
Troy
South Al

North:
WKU
UAB
stAte
ULM

South:
USM
Louisiana
UTSA
TxSt

Play a 9 game conference schedule.
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(10-13-2021 03:34 PM)Michael in Raleigh Wrote:  
(10-13-2021 03:17 PM)Bobcat87 Wrote:  
(10-13-2021 01:41 PM)Michael in Raleigh Wrote:  Kind of crazy thought I had.

I wonder if the Sun Belt would consider just going ahead and inviting Southern Miss and make it a formality, like tomorrow, if indeed both sides want each other. A second, or third and fourth, new member could be announced later.

The Sun Belt has reason to be a bit insulted that, with the AAC, SB, and C-USA territories all overlapping the same regions, C-USA only sent a letter to the AAC. The SB could take it as a slap in the face and just go ahead and take one of their own, which really is no different than what C-USA did to the SB with FIVE schools.

It would be petty. And it would be a gamble without a second school completely lined up. But it would also exert strength and tell the CFB world the SB it is to be taken seriously.

. . . my thoughts exactly, pull the trigger. Seems like both sides want it, no reason that I can see to wait on “what other conference(s) want.”

I'm kind of starting to wonder: DO both sides want it? Is one side or both sides getting cold feet?

(10-13-2021 02:53 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  Possible if USM wants to but it can’t happen until the AAC officially says no to regionalization.

You know far more than I do about all this stuff, but why must USM or the SB wait on the AAC, or on AAC presidents.

Hope you’re wrong about the cold feet. I think Southern Miss is perfect for The Belt. I really don’t see them in the mix for the aac, so like you, I’m like let’s get her done.

. . . unless as you’ve suggested cold feet are in play . . . I don’t see why we’d be hesitant, and if you believe S. Miss fans, they certainly are looking for the exit.
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(10-13-2021 03:51 PM)SouthJags2012 Wrote:  
(10-13-2021 01:24 PM)RamblinRedWolf Wrote:  
(10-13-2021 01:08 PM)SouthJags2012 Wrote:  Can this all be over already

I think even if AAC and Sunbelt made their moves today, realignment won't be over (especially not with Big 12 lingering on expanding further)

Yeah, I was more talking about this round of negotiations. Realignment is always going to be happening. Death, taxes, and realignment talks in college athletics are the guarantees in life.

. . . you forgot, “the check’s in the mail.”
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How about we just convince the AAC they need TxSt, then we add USM, Marshall and ECU and stop at 12??? I mean that makes as much sense as any other idea on here.
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(10-13-2021 04:46 PM)Usajags Wrote:  How about we just convince the AAC they need TxSt, then we add USM, Marshall and ECU and stop at 12??? I mean that makes as much sense as any other idea on here.


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(10-13-2021 04:46 PM)Usajags Wrote:  How about we just convince the AAC they need TxSt, then we add USM, Marshall and ECU and stop at 12??? I mean that makes as much sense as any other idea on here.


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(10-13-2021 04:19 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  
(10-13-2021 03:34 PM)Michael in Raleigh Wrote:  
(10-13-2021 03:17 PM)Bobcat87 Wrote:  
(10-13-2021 01:41 PM)Michael in Raleigh Wrote:  Kind of crazy thought I had.

I wonder if the Sun Belt would consider just going ahead and inviting Southern Miss and make it a formality, like tomorrow, if indeed both sides want each other. A second, or third and fourth, new member could be announced later.

The Sun Belt has reason to be a bit insulted that, with the AAC, SB, and C-USA territories all overlapping the same regions, C-USA only sent a letter to the AAC. The SB could take it as a slap in the face and just go ahead and take one of their own, which really is no different than what C-USA did to the SB with FIVE schools.

It would be petty. And it would be a gamble without a second school completely lined up. But it would also exert strength and tell the CFB world the SB it is to be taken seriously.

. . . my thoughts exactly, pull the trigger. Seems like both sides want it, no reason that I can see to wait on “what other conference(s) want.”

I'm kind of starting to wonder: DO both sides want it? Is one side or both sides getting cold feet?

(10-13-2021 02:53 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  Possible if USM wants to but it can’t happen until the AAC officially says no to regionalization.

You know far more than I do about all this stuff, but why must USM or the SB wait on the AAC, or on AAC presidents.

USM needs to be seen by boosters as at least trying to get into a league with the AAC schools somehow.

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Smart thinking. Thanks.
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(10-13-2021 05:12 PM)Michael in Raleigh Wrote:  
(10-13-2021 04:19 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  
(10-13-2021 03:34 PM)Michael in Raleigh Wrote:  
(10-13-2021 03:17 PM)Bobcat87 Wrote:  
(10-13-2021 01:41 PM)Michael in Raleigh Wrote:  Kind of crazy thought I had.

I wonder if the Sun Belt would consider just going ahead and inviting Southern Miss and make it a formality, like tomorrow, if indeed both sides want each other. A second, or third and fourth, new member could be announced later.

The Sun Belt has reason to be a bit insulted that, with the AAC, SB, and C-USA territories all overlapping the same regions, C-USA only sent a letter to the AAC. The SB could take it as a slap in the face and just go ahead and take one of their own, which really is no different than what C-USA did to the SB with FIVE schools.

It would be petty. And it would be a gamble without a second school completely lined up. But it would also exert strength and tell the CFB world the SB it is to be taken seriously.

. . . my thoughts exactly, pull the trigger. Seems like both sides want it, no reason that I can see to wait on “what other conference(s) want.”

I'm kind of starting to wonder: DO both sides want it? Is one side or both sides getting cold feet?

(10-13-2021 02:53 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  Possible if USM wants to but it can’t happen until the AAC officially says no to regionalization.

You know far more than I do about all this stuff, but why must USM or the SB wait on the AAC, or on AAC presidents.

USM needs to be seen by boosters as at least trying to get into a league with the AAC schools somehow.

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Smart thinking. Thanks.

I think most have come over to the idea of the Sunbelt. Be nice if we could join up and have a period of stability and growth.
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