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RE: CBS Sports: Regionalization concept that would realign teams...
(10-09-2021 05:41 PM)FrankyP Wrote: (10-09-2021 05:28 PM)Ewglenn Wrote: (10-09-2021 04:33 PM)FrankyP Wrote: (10-09-2021 03:55 PM)Ewglenn Wrote: Honestly, I think this is just lining up the break off of the eastern teams. They will be like “see no one wants to play along so we’re just going to do our own thing”.
Curious how this new eastern league would work. What schools, how a new conf gets bowl tie-in, tv, etc?
If the schools broke off they would retain NCAA auto bids if they can keep seven schools that have been together at least 7 years. New TV contracts and bowl tie ins aren’t too crazy to figure out. Some of the existing tie ins would go with the ‘new’ conference. I’m not talking about taking eastern SBC teams (even though I think we probably would get a few if it materialized). JMU and Liberty would jump at an opportunity. The NCAA distributes 132 per year to the G5 if there was another conference it would equate to 22 million per year per conference.
I think it would be something like this (assuming UAB to the AAC):
ODU
Charlotte
Marshall
MTSU
WKU
FAU
FIU
Liberty
JMU
Jacksonville St (if we couldn’t get any SBC teams to join)
Well, thanks. That makes the most sense of anything I’ve read about this new ‘east’ conference. But it just seems to still have many obstacles to cross it would be a long shot. But hey, who knows.
And if it would happen, and assuming that UAB (and maybe rice?) goes to the aac, and USM to the SBC, that would leave only NT, LTU, utsa and Utep in cusa. So I guess they’d have to add from independents like Liberty and JMU? They’d still need a few I guess.
If it got to that level we would eat the WAC teams.
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RE: CBS Sports: Regionalization concept that would realign teams...
(10-09-2021 05:41 PM)FrankyP Wrote: (10-09-2021 05:28 PM)Ewglenn Wrote: (10-09-2021 04:33 PM)FrankyP Wrote: (10-09-2021 03:55 PM)Ewglenn Wrote: Honestly, I think this is just lining up the break off of the eastern teams. They will be like “see no one wants to play along so we’re just going to do our own thing”.
Curious how this new eastern league would work. What schools, how a new conf gets bowl tie-in, tv, etc?
If the schools broke off they would retain NCAA auto bids if they can keep seven schools that have been together at least 7 years. New TV contracts and bowl tie ins aren’t too crazy to figure out. Some of the existing tie ins would go with the ‘new’ conference. I’m not talking about taking eastern SBC teams (even though I think we probably would get a few if it materialized). JMU and Liberty would jump at an opportunity. The NCAA distributes 132 per year to the G5 if there was another conference it would equate to 22 million per year per conference.
I think it would be something like this (assuming UAB to the AAC):
ODU
Charlotte
Marshall
MTSU
WKU
FAU
FIU
Liberty
JMU
Jacksonville St (if we couldn’t get any SBC teams to join)
Well, thanks. That makes the most sense of anything I’ve read about this new ‘east’ conference. But it just seems to still have many obstacles to cross it would be a long shot. But hey, who knows.
And if it would happen, and assuming that UAB (and maybe rice?) goes to the aac, and USM to the SBC, that would leave only NT, LTU, utsa and Utep in cusa. So I guess they’d have to add from independents like Liberty and JMU? They’d still need a few I guess.
Honestly that happening (Rice and USM) would be best case scenario for the eastern teams and worst case for the ones leftover. In that case you run into the East group having a legal say in keeping all tie-ins and retaining the name if they break off.
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RE: CBS Sports: Regionalization concept that would realign teams...
(10-09-2021 05:39 PM)All4One Wrote: (10-09-2021 05:38 PM)ghostofclt! Wrote: (10-09-2021 05:04 PM)All4One Wrote: Airport meeting in Charlotte forthcoming?
clt likes this idea
Charlotte has a nice airport! Even 20 years ago, it was enormous.
clt says just wait until the most recent renovations are complete pal!
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RE: CBS Sports: Regionalization concept that would realign teams...
(10-09-2021 05:45 PM)ghostofclt! Wrote: (10-09-2021 05:39 PM)All4One Wrote: (10-09-2021 05:38 PM)ghostofclt! Wrote: (10-09-2021 05:04 PM)All4One Wrote: Airport meeting in Charlotte forthcoming?
clt likes this idea
Charlotte has a nice airport! Even 20 years ago, it was enormous.
clt says just wait until the most recent renovations are complete pal!
Curious your thoughts on Nashville’s airport renovations.
https://www.airport-technology.com/proje...sion-plan/
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RE: CBS Sports: Regionalization concept that would realign teams...
(10-09-2021 05:19 PM)WKUApollo Wrote: (10-09-2021 05:15 PM)Hilltop75 Wrote: The only way this works is to have every school
In CUSA and the Sun Belt in a binding agreement that
Nobody accepts an AAC invite.
Then unless Aresco wanted to back fill with
Independents or FCS he would be stuck.
I would think I would have this already done
Behind the scenes before I announced this
Public meeting.
Their may be more here than you think
I was thinking the same. It's a game of chess...all these moves the last few months have been. Obviously the conference offices are saying it's a no go, but it's the schools who vote and I'd wager there have been lots and lots of talks among schools. Will it work? It's a longshot...a very long shot but we will see.
Based on history the CUSA Commissioner is playing checkers while everyone else is playing chess. The CUSA ADs have got to be looking for the best jumping/landing spot.
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RE: CBS Sports: Regionalization concept that would realign teams...
(10-09-2021 05:49 PM)Ewglenn Wrote: (10-09-2021 05:45 PM)ghostofclt! Wrote: (10-09-2021 05:39 PM)All4One Wrote: (10-09-2021 05:38 PM)ghostofclt! Wrote: (10-09-2021 05:04 PM)All4One Wrote: Airport meeting in Charlotte forthcoming?
clt likes this idea
Charlotte has a nice airport! Even 20 years ago, it was enormous.
clt says just wait until the most recent renovations are complete pal!
Curious your thoughts on Nashville’s airport renovations.
https://www.airport-technology.com/proje...sion-plan/
clt says Nashville has an adorable airport.
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10-09-2021 05:56 PM |
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RE: CBS Sports: Regionalization concept that would realign teams...
(10-09-2021 05:50 PM)Dowless Wrote: (10-09-2021 05:19 PM)WKUApollo Wrote: (10-09-2021 05:15 PM)Hilltop75 Wrote: The only way this works is to have every school
In CUSA and the Sun Belt in a binding agreement that
Nobody accepts an AAC invite.
Then unless Aresco wanted to back fill with
Independents or FCS he would be stuck.
I would think I would have this already done
Behind the scenes before I announced this
Public meeting.
Their may be more here than you think
I was thinking the same. It's a game of chess...all these moves the last few months have been. Obviously the conference offices are saying it's a no go, but it's the schools who vote and I'd wager there have been lots and lots of talks among schools. Will it work? It's a longshot...a very long shot but we will see.
Based on history the CUSA Commissioner is playing checkers while everyone else is playing chess. The CUSA ADs have got to be looking for the best jumping/landing spot.
Lol. Very true but remember, she brought in someone who is taking the lead. I'd give this chess move a 5% chance of succeeding but heck, at least we finally got something from CUSA top brass.
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RE: CBS Sports: Regionalization concept that would realign teams...
This "chess move" has as much chance of working as the AAC raid of the B12.
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RE: CBS Sports: Regionalization concept that would realign teams...
(10-09-2021 05:56 PM)ghostofclt! Wrote: (10-09-2021 05:49 PM)Ewglenn Wrote: (10-09-2021 05:45 PM)ghostofclt! Wrote: (10-09-2021 05:39 PM)All4One Wrote: (10-09-2021 05:38 PM)ghostofclt! Wrote:
clt likes this idea
Charlotte has a nice airport! Even 20 years ago, it was enormous.
clt says just wait until the most recent renovations are complete pal!
Curious your thoughts on Nashville’s airport renovations.
https://www.airport-technology.com/proje...sion-plan/
clt says Nashville has an adorable airport.
Airport envy.
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RE: CBS Sports: Regionalization concept that would realign teams...
The problem is that the conferences aren’t the ones that benefit the most from the move, unless you’re at the bottom, which makes this an interesting admission from CUSA leadership. But why would the AAC, not that far removed from rumors of adding Big 12 teams or taking it over entirely, be interested in something that makes them equal parts of a three-headed monster? Why would the Sun Belt, which obviously thinks it can get CUSA teams (and maybe AAC teams, who knows?) be willing to give up the leverage they believe they have? CUSA has nothing to lose at this point, but it also reveals the depths of their desperation.
Now what the individual schools think may be another matter, but there’s really no easy way to broach the subject without engaging in tampering.
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RE: CBS Sports: Regionalization concept that would realign teams...
(10-09-2021 05:50 PM)Dowless Wrote: (10-09-2021 05:19 PM)WKUApollo Wrote: (10-09-2021 05:15 PM)Hilltop75 Wrote: The only way this works is to have every school
In CUSA and the Sun Belt in a binding agreement that
Nobody accepts an AAC invite.
Then unless Aresco wanted to back fill with
Independents or FCS he would be stuck.
I would think I would have this already done
Behind the scenes before I announced this
Public meeting.
Their may be more here than you think
I was thinking the same. It's a game of chess...all these moves the last few months have been. Obviously the conference offices are saying it's a no go, but it's the schools who vote and I'd wager there have been lots and lots of talks among schools. Will it work? It's a longshot...a very long shot but we will see.
Based on history the CUSA Commissioner is playing checkers while everyone else is playing chess. The CUSA ADs have got to be looking for the best jumping/landing spot.
Eh, the AAC commissioner has been playing chess as though his pawns and bishops are actually all queens, and it’s not working.
We don’t know exactly what game the Belt commissioner is playing, just that he talks it well. He could be playing anything from world-class Go to single-color Candyland.
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RE: CBS Sports: Regionalization concept that would realign teams...
(10-09-2021 05:59 PM)All4One Wrote: (10-09-2021 05:56 PM)ghostofclt! Wrote: (10-09-2021 05:49 PM)Ewglenn Wrote: (10-09-2021 05:45 PM)ghostofclt! Wrote: (10-09-2021 05:39 PM)All4One Wrote: Charlotte has a nice airport! Even 20 years ago, it was enormous.
clt says just wait until the most recent renovations are complete pal!
Curious your thoughts on Nashville’s airport renovations.
https://www.airport-technology.com/proje...sion-plan/
clt says Nashville has an adorable airport.
Airport envy.
clt says Nashville is a great city for country music and bachelorette parties.
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RE: CBS Sports: Regionalization concept that would realign teams...
Aresco and Gill don't make the decisions like this. The University President's do. University Presidents might go for this.
(This post was last modified: 10-09-2021 06:29 PM by GreenBison.)
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RE: CBS Sports: Regionalization concept that would realign teams...
(10-09-2021 05:15 PM)Hilltop75 Wrote: The only way this works is to have every school
In CUSA and the Sun Belt in a binding agreement that
Nobody accepts an AAC invite.
Then unless Aresco wanted to back fill with
Independents or FCS he would be stuck.
I would think I would have this already done
Behind the scenes before I announced this
Public meeting.
Their may be more here than you think
The above post is irrational. Each individual school is going to do what’s in its own self interest rather than what is best for the conference. If your idea of a “binding agreement” between the schools was practical it could have been used to stop the Big 12 from taking 3 AAC schools. Heck had BYU, the Moutain West, and the AAC formed an alliance and signed your “binding agreement” than the Big 12 would have been in big time trouble. The CUSA schools that believe they are next in line for an AAC invite will never sign your “binding agreement” as it would be irrational and against their schools self interest to do so.
(This post was last modified: 10-09-2021 06:43 PM by sunamiwave.)
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RE: CBS Sports: Regionalization concept that would realign teams...
(10-09-2021 05:15 PM)Hilltop75 Wrote: The only way this works is to have every school
In CUSA and the Sun Belt in a binding agreement that
Nobody accepts an AAC invite.
Then unless Aresco wanted to back fill with
Independents or FCS he would be stuck.
I would think I would have this already done
Behind the scenes before I announced this
Public meeting.
Their may be more here than you think
There may be agreements to avoid the AAC, but I can tell you Delaney’s plan is DOA in the SBC. Half our schools would travel more than we are now under his plan.
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RE: CBS Sports: Regionalization concept that would realign teams...
(10-09-2021 06:23 PM)GreenBison Wrote: Aresco and Gill don't make the decisions like this. The University President's do. University Presidents might go for this.
I can tell you The SBC presidents I have contacts with have all said they want no part of this plan
I can name off 5 no votes in the SBC
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RE: CBS Sports: Regionalization concept that would realign teams...
(10-09-2021 06:38 PM)chiefsfan Wrote: (10-09-2021 06:23 PM)GreenBison Wrote: Aresco and Gill don't make the decisions like this. The University President's do. University Presidents might go for this.
I can tell you The SBC presidents I have contacts with have all said they want no part of this plan
I can name off 5 no votes in the SBC
All in the much weaker Sun Belt West Division? I wouldn't want to lose my better teams either if I were a Sun Belt West Division president.
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RE: CBS Sports: Regionalization concept that would realign teams...
(10-09-2021 06:35 PM)sunamiwave Wrote: (10-09-2021 05:15 PM)Hilltop75 Wrote: The only way this works is to have every school
In CUSA and the Sun Belt in a binding agreement that
Nobody accepts an AAC invite.
Then unless Aresco wanted to back fill with
Independents or FCS he would be stuck.
I would think I would have this already done
Behind the scenes before I announced this
Public meeting.
Their may be more here than you think
The above post is irrational. Each individual school is going to do what’s in its own self interest rather than what is best for the conference. If your idea of a “binding agreement” between the schools was practical it could have been used to stop the Big 12 from taking 3 AAC schools. Heck had BYU, the Moutain West, and the AAC formed an alliance and signed your “binding agreement” than the Big 12 would have been in big time trouble. The CUSA schools that believe they are next in line for an AAC invite will never sign your “binding agreement” as it would be irrational and against their schools self interest to do so.
Exactly. Administrators are not responsible for the success of a conference. They are responsible for the success of their university. That kind of binding agreement is basically like a GOR---in that its primary purpose is to prevent conference defections. Any school with a chance of improving their situation is unlikely to sign such a document. The AAC supposedly could have made 10 million a team if they signed a GOR. Despite the extra money---several schools refused to even consider it. I bet you can figure out which schools balked at the idea of a GOR.
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CBS Sports: Regionalization concept that would realign teams...
(10-09-2021 06:11 PM)ghostofclt! Wrote: (10-09-2021 05:59 PM)All4One Wrote: (10-09-2021 05:56 PM)ghostofclt! Wrote: (10-09-2021 05:49 PM)Ewglenn Wrote: (10-09-2021 05:45 PM)ghostofclt! Wrote: clt says just wait until the most recent renovations are complete pal!
Curious your thoughts on Nashville’s airport renovations.
https://www.airport-technology.com/proje...sion-plan/
clt says Nashville has an adorable airport.
Airport envy.
clt says Nashville is a great city for country music and bachelorette parties.
Rivals Asheville for bachelor parties.
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RE: CBS Sports: Regionalization concept that would realign teams...
(10-09-2021 07:28 PM)galojah Wrote: (10-09-2021 06:11 PM)ghostofclt! Wrote: (10-09-2021 05:59 PM)All4One Wrote: (10-09-2021 05:56 PM)ghostofclt! Wrote: (10-09-2021 05:49 PM)Ewglenn Wrote: Curious your thoughts on Nashville’s airport renovations.
https://www.airport-technology.com/proje...sion-plan/
clt says Nashville has an adorable airport.
Airport envy.
clt says Nashville is a great city for country music and bachelorette parties.
Rivals Asheville for bachelor parties.
Good lord they can have them all.
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