For the last time, I get accused all of the time about being a homer, but it does not matter because ODU will be playing somewhere, I want to give the American a plan that I think will continue the brand tone heights and I know a lot of you will scoff. You guys absolutely made the right moves by trying to get the mountain west schools. I felt like you should have went on the offensive years ago and went after west virginia, but that's water under the bridge. What the conference needs to do now is not only boost football, but basketball as well. You also need more eyeballs and that's why I'm saying you should go after Marshall and Appalachian State for your football brand and UAB and ODU for basketball. This creates a regional balance to the conference and creates great rivalries and you guys have no idea what ODU can bring to the table for not only basketball, but this area is one of the best for football recruiting and with the world's largest naval base 5 miles down the street would mean to Navy. ODU will not be terrible in football for long and Marshall and Appalachian State play pretty good basketball and UAB plays pretty good football and I know the AAC needs baseball and again,sounding like a homer, ODU has one of the best baseball programs in the nation. I understand it's not Cincinnati Houston UCF or Boise State San Diego State Colorado State Air Force or Army, but those choices are great underrated picks and I for one think it would definitely work. So

EAST- Navy, Marshall, ODU, Temple, East Carolina, Appalachian State
WEST-Memphis, Tulsa, SMU, Tulane, UAB, South Florida
Navy does not have to go to Texas every year, but go to Texas, Florida, and/or Virginia every year, all very fertile recruiting areas and you can adjust for Wichita State in Olympic sports. Give this clear thought AAC, this could be a pretty good conference for you. Thoughts? Best of blessings to you guys and I hope it works out for you no matter which direction it goes.

This is you trying to dream up the perfect east division. Navy would not agree to that they don't want to be in a "regional" conference.

While I'm still on the "add 1 and wait to see if ESPN can sweeten the pot for the MWC teams" bus, I'll say that I've seen worse proposals. Doesn't make this one great, but I've seen worse (most notably that study that the MAC most certainly funded that was discussed yesterday).

As an ECU fan, I'm torn on ODU, having lived/worked in the area a few years when I got out of school.

Pluses:
-We do recruit the area heavily
-The number indicate that you're closer on spending to the AAC than any other CUSA program right now, which is a huge plus
-Brand new beautiful stadium that, if I remember correctly, was built to be easily expanded
-ODU definitely has a growing fanbase. I feel like ODU matched our fans in numbers when we played there a couple of years ago.

Minuses:
-Double-edged sword on recruiting. The Tidewater has been one of the biggest areas we recruit outside of NC. While we usually play second fiddle to VT (see Michael Vick), we've enjoyed an advantage over ODU as the "tweener" in that area. Bringing ODU up could put us on a more level playing field for recruits.
-Similar argument for eyeballs. VT and ECU are the biggest draws in the area, and the Tidewater is also our biggest TV market outside of NC. Promoting ODU could shift some of those eyeballs.

For those reasons, my vote would be, similar to VT's approach, to just schedule you guys more often for Tidewater recruiting purposes. It's honestly the only reason VT scheduled us so much before ODU was an FBS team. Not that you guys are there, we're both scheduling you instead of each other.

(10-07-2021 06:01 AM)jaybird44 Wrote:  For the last time, I get accused all of the time about being a homer, but it does not matter because ODU will be playing somewhere, I want to give the American a plan that I think will continue the brand tone heights and I know a lot of you will scoff. You guys absolutely made the right moves by trying to get the mountain west schools. I felt like you should have went on the offensive years ago and went after west virginia, but that's water under the bridge. What the conference needs to do now is not only boost football, but basketball as well. You also need more eyeballs and that's why I'm saying you should go after Marshall and Appalachian State for your football brand and UAB and ODU for basketball. This creates a regional balance to the conference and creates great rivalries and you guys have no idea what ODU can bring to the table for not only basketball, but this area is one of the best for football recruiting and with the world's largest naval base 5 miles down the street would mean to Navy. ODU will not be terrible in football for long and Marshall and Appalachian State play pretty good basketball and UAB plays pretty good football and I know the AAC needs baseball and again,sounding like a homer, ODU has one of the best baseball programs in the nation. I understand it's not Cincinnati Houston UCF or Boise State San Diego State Colorado State Air Force or Army, but those choices are great underrated picks and I for one think it would definitely work. So

EAST- Navy, Marshall, ODU, Temple, East Carolina, Appalachian State
WEST-Memphis, Tulsa, SMU, Tulane, UAB, South Florida
Navy does not have to go to Texas every year, but go to Texas, Florida, and/or Virginia every year, all very fertile recruiting areas and you can adjust for Wichita State in Olympic sports. Give this clear thought AAC, this could be a pretty good conference for you. Thoughts? Best of blessings to you guys and I hope it works out for you no matter which direction it goes.

Navy doesn't HAVE to go to Texas, Navy WANTS to go to Texas. 30 states plus DC are represented on our roster - Texas is #1 with 22 players (note we enjoy larger rosters than most, since we don't have to worry about scholarship limitations, since no midshipman student-athlete is on an athletic scholarship - they are all on exactly the same ride as every other midshipman). Virginia is down at #8 on the list, but that's right above Tennessee; given our proximity to Northern Virginia, and our existing exposure in the 757, I'll keep Memphis if we're picking divisions.

b0ndsj0ns has it right. Navy Does Not Want Smaller Regional Footprint. The bigger and more national, the better.

(10-07-2021 09:07 AM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  

(10-07-2021 06:01 AM)jaybird44 Wrote:  For the last time, I get accused all of the time about being a homer, but it does not matter because ODU will be playing somewhere, I want to give the American a plan that I think will continue the brand tone heights and I know a lot of you will scoff. You guys absolutely made the right moves by trying to get the mountain west schools. I felt like you should have went on the offensive years ago and went after west virginia, but that's water under the bridge. What the conference needs to do now is not only boost football, but basketball as well. You also need more eyeballs and that's why I'm saying you should go after Marshall and Appalachian State for your football brand and UAB and ODU for basketball. This creates a regional balance to the conference and creates great rivalries and you guys have no idea what ODU can bring to the table for not only basketball, but this area is one of the best for football recruiting and with the world's largest naval base 5 miles down the street would mean to Navy. ODU will not be terrible in football for long and Marshall and Appalachian State play pretty good basketball and UAB plays pretty good football and I know the AAC needs baseball and again,sounding like a homer, ODU has one of the best baseball programs in the nation. I understand it's not Cincinnati Houston UCF or Boise State San Diego State Colorado State Air Force or Army, but those choices are great underrated picks and I for one think it would definitely work. So

EAST- Navy, Marshall, ODU, Temple, East Carolina, Appalachian State
WEST-Memphis, Tulsa, SMU, Tulane, UAB, South Florida
Navy does not have to go to Texas every year, but go to Texas, Florida, and/or Virginia every year, all very fertile recruiting areas and you can adjust for Wichita State in Olympic sports. Give this clear thought AAC, this could be a pretty good conference for you. Thoughts? Best of blessings to you guys and I hope it works out for you no matter which direction it goes.

Navy doesn't HAVE to go to Texas, Navy WANTS to go to Texas. 30 states plus DC are represented on our roster - Texas is #1 with 22 players (note we enjoy larger rosters than most, since we don't have to worry about scholarship limitations, since no midshipman student-athlete is on an athletic scholarship - they are all on exactly the same ride as every other midshipman). Virginia is down at #8 on the list, but that's right above Tennessee; given our proximity to Northern Virginia, and our existing exposure in the 757, I'll keep Memphis if we're picking divisions.

b0ndsj0ns has it right. Navy Does Not Want Smaller Regional Footprint. The bigger and more national, the better.

On the "bigger and more national the better," Memphis wants that for basketball recruiting.

Another thread in how we can be great by adding a bunch of crap teams that nobody else wants.

Don’t we have like 18….hundred of these?

And it’s posted by… yep, a fan of one of those teams. I wonder what the last thread was that was started by an actual AAC member?

(10-07-2021 09:30 AM)mtmedlin Wrote:  Another thread in how we can be great by adding a bunch of crap teams that nobody else wants.

Don’t we have like 18….hundred of these?

And it’s posted by… yep, a fan of one of those teams. I wonder what the last thread was that was started by an actual AAC member?

be nice