(10-04-2021 10:27 AM)UNT15 Wrote: (10-04-2021 10:15 AM)LRdawg Wrote: (10-04-2021 07:42 AM)WKUFan518 Wrote: Let the American dissolve! Seriously though, cannot see anyone taking UTSA with that middle school gym unless they have plans in place for a legit basketball arena....
Also their baseball stadium.
UT-Austin keeps their thumb on their system schools. They definitely don't want UTSA or UTEP to get too big (same for Texas State, but that's because they're too close. State is a separate system, but their BOR is beholden to UT).
this is not remotely true at all
1. UTD qualified for NRUF funding 2 or 3 years ago the first school to do so since Texas Tech and UH about 9 years ago
UTA just qualified this year.......UTSA will qualify in 3 or 4 years max so the UT System has worked through their system members in a methodical way to get then qualified for that funding well ahead of north Texas state
2. The UT System has their administrative cost covered by PUF distributions.....the other UT System members that participate in the PUF (not all system members do) have their formula infrastructure funding also covered by the PUF instead of general state revenues
AFTER those expenses are covered UT Austin gets their additional "excellence funding"
recently the UT System worked it where a number of administrative staff at their system universities were pulled up to the "system level" while still remaining on their individual campuses and serving in their same position on those campuses
the result of this was the individual universities now had money freed up in their budgets that were paying those on campus administrators to instead fund other things (like additional classroom faculty) and the other result was the increased system budget came at the expense of "excellence funding" for UT Austin because those cost for those administrative staff are now on the system budget covered by PUF funding prior to Austin "excellence funding"
3. the UT System has a program in place where the Austin campus fundraising staff mentor the staff at other universities in the system to help leverage their knowledge from decades of successful fundraising......this has especially helped UTD
4. Austin scheduled UTEP and UTSA in the OOC for a number of years to keep that OOC cost for games within the system instead of out of state especially
5. because of the structure of the Texas State System their system does not have as much control of their individual universities as the other university systems in Texas......the members of the Texas State System lobby The Texas Legislature individually for their needs instead of the system doing it for them like all the other university systems in Texas
thus in spite of your comment about being "beholden" to the UT System being nonsense in general it would be that much more difficult for the Texas State System to control Texas State University because that university lobbies the legislature for their needs independently and not through the system
6. Texas State was not even classifies as an emerging research university by The State of Texas when the NRUF and TRIP programs started now not only are they classified as that they are pretty much ahead of north Texas state and UTEP in terms of qualifying for NRUF funding and should qualify about the same time as UTSA or a couple of years after.....and most likely before UTEP and north Texas state
7. Texas State has added a number of PhD programs and the entire Round Rock health campus starting in 2005......hardly something that would be "allowed" if they were being "held back" by The UT System
8. if anyone needs to worry about being "held back" it is the Denton branch campus of the north Texas state system that is being bled dry by idiot dallas proper politicians that use the bonding capacity of the north Texas state system to build failed dallas campuses and provisionally (and still struggling) law schools which waste valuable higher ed dollars on unneeded economic development projects (that fail) and that sucks up bond capacity from the main campus that is the main reason that capacity exist.....in addition to charging inflated system overhead to the Denton campus to keep clost lower to the other failed system members in dallas proper....you know like moving the system computing capacity and administration out of Denton and down to dallas and then jacking up the charged cost for that "service".......pretty much the opposite of what the UT System did as described above
or building more space at the failed dallas campus against the recommendation of the THECB and doing so with "system dollars"......of course The State of Texas only funds "systems" at a very limited level so there are not free "system dollars" those dollars were inflated system service cost to Denton and system bonding capacity backed by the Denton enrollment......they did the same for the law school as well.....which is why it took a long time to get business building and even longer for an arts building built in Denton and the SRB had a chain link fence around it for so long before it could be renovated......and the fashion program was moved into a TShack instead of a building when their old building was taken to be demoed for the student union expansion......down in dallas at that failed campus they have so much extra space they rent out most of it to DCCCD and still build new buildings.....in Denton they put off renovation of research space, new buildings for popular programs and drag in Tshacks for others
and they spend $15.5 million in student money on athletics per year BEYOND student approved fees......which is twice what and UTSA Texas State spend beyond student approved fees....and actually brag about it like that is impressive