(10-03-2021 03:09 PM)Cubanbull1 Wrote:  

(10-03-2021 03:01 PM)GoOwls111 Wrote:  

(10-03-2021 02:53 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:  

(10-03-2021 02:50 PM)GoOwls111 Wrote:  Liberty deserve a full membership invite, good athletics all around.

Deserves got nothing to do with it.

[/Clint Eastwood voice]

SOOOOO. don't add Liberty because you hate what they stand for? Isn't that illegal? There's a name for that.

Freedom of Choice. Conferences are free to associate with who they want.

That's right, conferences making the decisions, not a bulletin board making the decisions.

(10-03-2021 06:19 PM)sfink16 Wrote:  

(10-03-2021 03:09 PM)Cubanbull1 Wrote:  

(10-03-2021 03:01 PM)GoOwls111 Wrote:  

(10-03-2021 02:53 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:  

(10-03-2021 02:50 PM)GoOwls111 Wrote:  Liberty deserve a full membership invite, good athletics all around.

Deserves got nothing to do with it.

[/Clint Eastwood voice]

SOOOOO. don't add Liberty because you hate what they stand for? Isn't that illegal? There's a name for that.

Freedom of Choice. Conferences are free to associate with who they want.

That's right, conferences making the decisions, not a bulletin board making the decisions.

Exactly. None of us will decide.

It's funny how some peoples minds work, as far as I can tell, Liberty hasn't done anything that remotely compares to the Penn State scandal, the Baylor scandal and the FSU scandal... Just to name a few, and yet all the hypocrites here would jump to kiss their A$$ES in order to be in a conference with them.

(10-03-2021 05:59 PM)bluebacker Wrote:  Would be a good move but the soy eating PC crowd won't have it. I hope they do get added then the soy eaters can go run their mouths at the Liberty fans and get their asses kicked.

Head injuries suck

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(10-03-2021 06:22 PM)GoOwls111 Wrote:  It's funny how some peoples minds work, as far as I can tell, Liberty has done anything that remotely compares to the Penn State candle, the Baylor candle and the FSU candle... Just to name a few, and yet all the hypocrites here would jump to kiss their A$$ES in order to be in a conference with them.

+2 - Absolutely! And I have no idea what Liberty has done to piss many off here to begin with, nor do I care. It's not like were looking for deity-like members as conference mates. Those who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.

To follow up on the "hypocritical" behavior of some...

If you don't believe me, 3 of our loudest fanbases are about to embrace Baylor.

(10-03-2021 06:34 PM)GoOwls111 Wrote:  To follow up on the "hypocritical" behavior of some...

If you don't believe me, 3 of our loudest fanbases are about to embrace Baylor.

None of us here will make the decision on whether Liberty gets into AAC or not.

So relax and just wait for the announcements

(10-03-2021 06:22 PM)GoOwls111 Wrote:  It's funny how some peoples minds work, as far as I can tell, Liberty has done anything that remotely compares to the Penn State scandal, the Baylor scandal and the FSU scandal... Just to name a few, and yet all the hypocrites here would jump to kiss their A$$ES in order to be in a conference with them.

BAM! Nailed it.

(10-03-2021 06:22 PM)GoOwls111 Wrote:  It's funny how some peoples minds work, as far as I can tell, Liberty has done anything that remotely compares to the Penn State scandal, the Baylor scandal and the FSU scandal... Just to name a few, and yet all the hypocrites here would jump to kiss their A$$ES in order to be in a conference with them.

Bingo.

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(10-03-2021 06:27 PM)panama Wrote:  

(10-03-2021 05:59 PM)bluebacker Wrote:  Would be a good move but the soy eating PC crowd won't have it. I hope they do get added then the soy eaters can go run their mouths at the Liberty fans and get their asses kicked.

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Fukk off.

(10-03-2021 06:40 PM)Cubanbull1 Wrote:  

(10-03-2021 06:34 PM)GoOwls111 Wrote:  To follow up on the "hypocritical" behavior of some...

If you don't believe me, 3 of our loudest fanbases are about to embrace Baylor.

None of us here will make the decision on whether Liberty gets into AAC or not.

So relax and just wait for the announcements

I would love for there to be some announcements but, it may be a minute as Plan A just blew up in Aresco's face.......

(10-03-2021 07:33 PM)bluebacker Wrote:  

(10-03-2021 06:40 PM)Cubanbull1 Wrote:  

(10-03-2021 06:34 PM)GoOwls111 Wrote:  To follow up on the "hypocritical" behavior of some...

If you don't believe me, 3 of our loudest fanbases are about to embrace Baylor.

None of us here will make the decision on whether Liberty gets into AAC or not.

So relax and just wait for the announcements

I would love for there to be some announcements but, it may be a minute as Plan A just blew up in Aresco's face.......

Well a good man has more than one plan, so we will be ok.

(10-03-2021 07:32 PM)bluebacker Wrote:  

(10-03-2021 06:27 PM)panama Wrote:  

(10-03-2021 05:59 PM)bluebacker Wrote:  Would be a good move but the soy eating PC crowd won't have it. I hope they do get added then the soy eaters can go run their mouths at the Liberty fans and get their asses kicked.

Head injuries suck

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Fukk off.

Lmao

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(10-03-2021 07:37 PM)panama Wrote:  

(10-03-2021 07:32 PM)bluebacker Wrote:  

(10-03-2021 06:27 PM)panama Wrote:  

(10-03-2021 05:59 PM)bluebacker Wrote:  Would be a good move but the soy eating PC crowd won't have it. I hope they do get added then the soy eaters can go run their mouths at the Liberty fans and get their asses kicked.

Head injuries suck

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Fukk off.

Lmao

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Maybe he needs some soy in his diet.

(10-03-2021 06:22 PM)GoOwls111 Wrote:  It's funny how some peoples minds work, as far as I can tell, Liberty has done anything that remotely compares to the Penn State scandal, the Baylor scandal and the FSU scandal... Just to name a few, and yet all the hypocrites here would jump to kiss their A$$ES in order to be in a conference with them.

This is not hard and has been mentioned 50 times. Your real question is why will no group of conference presidents invite them.

They have 100k online students. They use tuition like an ATM. All things being equal, Presidents decide and cultural, institutional and geographic fit trumps everything until you get desperate. Liberty's operational model differs enough that Presidents who are used to research, liberal arts or even access missions will not like theirs. The SEC just added two schools that look like the rest of their schools. The Sun Belt is likely going to do the same. Liberty does not look, sound or act like anyone else in FBS. And that's why they will stay independent.

They are not getting invited because the AAC is not desperate and their are other options out there that look and sound like the voting schools. It may not be the answer you WANT but that IS the answer.

Now if someone can explain why ECU fans in particular and some other fans are playing Teddy Pendergast waiting for Liberty to show up?

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(10-03-2021 07:38 PM)Cubanbull1 Wrote:  

(10-03-2021 07:37 PM)panama Wrote:  

(10-03-2021 07:32 PM)bluebacker Wrote:  

(10-03-2021 06:27 PM)panama Wrote:  

(10-03-2021 05:59 PM)bluebacker Wrote:  Would be a good move but the soy eating PC crowd won't have it. I hope they do get added then the soy eaters can go run their mouths at the Liberty fans and get their asses kicked.

Head injuries suck

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Fukk off.

Lmao

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Maybe he needs some soy in his diet.

You know how it is. Internet is full of guys playing Quien es mas Macho from the safety of their bedroom.

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(10-03-2021 07:40 PM)panama Wrote:  All things being equal, Presidents decide and cultural, institutional and geographic fit trumps everything until you get desperate.

No argument here.

Quote:the AAC is not desperate

Hmmm. Maybe not Liberty-level desperate, but… the last couple months have been a very stressful time for the AAC. Nobody can seriously claim that Aresco &co. saw this coming, or were prepared for it. And they still don’t really know what to do.

Quote:and there are other options out there that look and sound like the voting schools.

but those options keep telling the AAC “No, thank you.”

(10-03-2021 07:40 PM)panama Wrote:  

(10-03-2021 06:22 PM)GoOwls111 Wrote:  It's funny how some peoples minds work, as far as I can tell, Liberty has done anything that remotely compares to the Penn State scandal, the Baylor scandal and the FSU scandal... Just to name a few, and yet all the hypocrites here would jump to kiss their A$$ES in order to be in a conference with them.

This is not hard and has been mentioned 50 times. Your real question is why will no group of conference presidents invite them.

They have 100k online students. They use tuition like an ATM. All things being equal, Presidents decide and cultural, institutional and geographic fit trumps everything until you get desperate. Liberty's operational model differs enough that Presidents who are used to research, liberal arts or even access missions will not like theirs. The SEC just added two schools that look like the rest of their schools. The Sun Belt is likely going to do the same. Liberty does not look, sound or act like anyone else in FBS. And that's why they will stay independent.

They are not getting invited because the AAC is not desperate and their are other options out there that look and sound like the voting schools. It may not be the answer you WANT but that IS the answer.

Now if someone can explain why ECU fans in particular and some other fans are playing Teddy Pendergast waiting for Liberty to show up?

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This response, and reviewing their website, confuses me even more, since they contradict one another. See: https://www.liberty.edu/news/2021/09/30/...-families/

Granted neither your explanation , nor the website provide enough detail but according to wikipedia (verified?) Liberty has 15,000 residential and 80,000 online. Tulsa, for example, has less then 4,000 students total. So what's your point?

(10-03-2021 07:55 PM)Cardiff Wrote:  

(10-03-2021 07:40 PM)panama Wrote:  All things being equal, Presidents decide and cultural, institutional and geographic fit trumps everything until you get desperate.

No argument here.

Quote:the AAC is not desperate

Hmmm.

Quote:and there are other options out there that look and sound like the voting schools.

but those options keep telling the AAC “No, thank you.”

Well since you root for Marshall and UAB, that’s good news for you because neither of those two will say No if invited.

(10-03-2021 08:00 PM)Cubanbull1 Wrote:  

(10-03-2021 07:55 PM)Cardiff Wrote:  

(10-03-2021 07:40 PM)panama Wrote:  All things being equal, Presidents decide and cultural, institutional and geographic fit trumps everything until you get desperate.

No argument here.

Quote:the AAC is not desperate

Hmmm.

Quote:and there are other options out there that look and sound like the voting schools.

but those options keep telling the AAC “No, thank you.”

Well since you root for Marshall and UAB, that’s good news for you because neither of those two will say No if invited.

You can say that again. And I do think UAB is all in. That gets AAC to 9 in all sports. Question is where do they go from there…