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Big 12 Expansion Report
Very late last night, I visited the board and found a post with a link to a Big 12 expansion report. It was quite lengthy and professionally done by Altimore Collins and dated 9/30/2021.

I cannot seem to find that post today. Was it deleted? Was this the right forum?
10-02-2021 11:27 AM
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Big 12 Expansion Report
This is the AAC forum
10-02-2021 11:29 AM
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RE: Big 12 Expansion Report
Its in the Off Topic section. But I'll repost it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=stVThj9R_q4

A fascinating look at all the expansion candidates for the BIG XII and the criteria by which one might choose a school.

After watching it the common thought is Memphis and Boise State are next up, but they actually rank quite low (because of very poor academic ranking).
10-02-2021 11:47 AM
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RE: Big 12 Expansion Report
It was from this board. I have never visited the Big 12 board on CSNbbs.

Maybe it was posted by mistake and deleted. I was hoping it would trigger some interesting discussion.
10-02-2021 11:56 AM
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RE: Big 12 Expansion Report
(10-02-2021 11:56 AM)Kandy Atz Wrote:  It was from this board. I have never visited the Big 12 board on CSNbbs.

Maybe it was posted by mistake and deleted. I was hoping it would trigger some interesting discussion.

It’s on the College Realignment board as well
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RE: Big 12 Expansion Report
(10-02-2021 11:47 AM)namssa Wrote:  Its in the Off Topic section. But I'll repost it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=stVThj9R_q4

A fascinating look at all the expansion candidates for the BIG XII and the criteria by which one might choose a school.

After watching it the common thought is Memphis and Boise State are next up, but they actually rank quite low (because of very poor academic ranking).

I did find the hard copy, so apparently I did download it.

Thank you.
10-02-2021 12:06 PM
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RE: Big 12 Expansion Report
This may be the report

https://youtu.be/stVThj9R_q4
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RE: Big 12 Expansion Report
https://www.dropbox.com/s/j2sdsqbm5qtu16...0.pdf?dl=0

Here is the download of the entire report.
10-02-2021 02:00 PM
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RE: Big 12 Expansion Report
It's an interesting video. I only think the Big 12 would expand right now if Kansas leaves and possibly Oklahoma State. Other than that, we're probably good. But the Big Ten has to be enticed by adding Kansas & Missouri in the next TV rights deal and the easy and obvious back-fill for the SEC is Oklahoma State.
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RE: Big 12 Expansion Report
(10-02-2021 02:00 PM)namssa Wrote:  https://www.dropbox.com/s/j2sdsqbm5qtu16...0.pdf?dl=0

Here is the download of the entire report.

It’s reports like this that remind me that no matter what fans say, USF is in a really good spot.
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RE: Big 12 Expansion Report
I posted this on the realignment board, but as someone who skimmed through the report and didn’t watch the video:

According to that report people are really sleeping on USF and SMU for future additions. Furthermore, if Tulane could ever get it rolling watch out.

It just reinforces FTT’s mantra of thinking like a university president rather than a fan. I also had no idea Memphis is changing presidents. Tiger fans would know better than me but I wonder if it’s to their benefit that there is no more expansion until that new prez is settled in.

I know all of this talk centers around athletics, but I’d find it hard to believe that Big 12 presidents wouldn’t look at those institutional fit and academic charts and not want to add to the academic reputation of the conference. Much like the AAC must decide if it wants to favor football, basketball, or academics the next round of Big 12 expansion may come down to a similar decision: institutional fit or football?
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(10-02-2021 04:56 PM)Charlie Broadway Wrote:  I posted this on the realignment board, but as someone who skimmed through the report and didn’t watch the video:

According to that report people are really sleeping on USF and SMU for future additions. Furthermore, if Tulane could ever get it rolling watch out.

It just reinforces FTT’s mantra of thinking like a university president rather than a fan. I also had no idea Memphis is changing presidents. Tiger fans would know better than me but I wonder if it’s to their benefit that there is no more expansion until that new prez is settled in.

I know all of this talk centers around athletics, but I’d find it hard to believe that Big 12 presidents wouldn’t look at those institutional fit and academic charts and not want to add to the academic reputation of the conference. Much like the AAC must decide if it wants to favor football, basketball, or academics the next round of Big 12 expansion may come down to a similar decision: institutional fit or football?

Institutional fit has a strong pull.
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(10-02-2021 05:09 PM)Fishpro10987 Wrote:  
(10-02-2021 04:56 PM)Charlie Broadway Wrote:  I posted this on the realignment board, but as someone who skimmed through the report and didn’t watch the video:

According to that report people are really sleeping on USF and SMU for future additions. Furthermore, if Tulane could ever get it rolling watch out.

It just reinforces FTT’s mantra of thinking like a university president rather than a fan. I also had no idea Memphis is changing presidents. Tiger fans would know better than me but I wonder if it’s to their benefit that there is no more expansion until that new prez is settled in.

I know all of this talk centers around athletics, but I’d find it hard to believe that Big 12 presidents wouldn’t look at those institutional fit and academic charts and not want to add to the academic reputation of the conference. Much like the AAC must decide if it wants to favor football, basketball, or academics the next round of Big 12 expansion may come down to a similar decision: institutional fit or football?

Institutional fit has a strong pull.

Congrats on the win! I should’ve also mentioned Temple is another school identified as an institutional fit obviously.
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(10-02-2021 05:20 PM)Charlie Broadway Wrote:  
(10-02-2021 05:09 PM)Fishpro10987 Wrote:  
(10-02-2021 04:56 PM)Charlie Broadway Wrote:  I posted this on the realignment board, but as someone who skimmed through the report and didn’t watch the video:

According to that report people are really sleeping on USF and SMU for future additions. Furthermore, if Tulane could ever get it rolling watch out.

It just reinforces FTT’s mantra of thinking like a university president rather than a fan. I also had no idea Memphis is changing presidents. Tiger fans would know better than me but I wonder if it’s to their benefit that there is no more expansion until that new prez is settled in.

I know all of this talk centers around athletics, but I’d find it hard to believe that Big 12 presidents wouldn’t look at those institutional fit and academic charts and not want to add to the academic reputation of the conference. Much like the AAC must decide if it wants to favor football, basketball, or academics the next round of Big 12 expansion may come down to a similar decision: institutional fit or football?

Institutional fit has a strong pull.

Congrats on the win! I should’ve also mentioned Temple is another school identified as an institutional fit obviously.

Yes it was. Sports was considered its weakness in those graphics. We lost all our momentum after Rhule left. Would love to gain it back.
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RE: Big 12 Expansion Report
(10-02-2021 04:56 PM)Charlie Broadway Wrote:  I posted this on the realignment board, but as someone who skimmed through the report and didn’t watch the video:

According to that report people are really sleeping on USF and SMU for future additions. Furthermore, if Tulane could ever get it rolling watch out.

It just reinforces FTT’s mantra of thinking like a university president rather than a fan. I also had no idea Memphis is changing presidents. Tiger fans would know better than me but I wonder if it’s to their benefit that there is no more expansion until that new prez is settled in.

I know all of this talk centers around athletics, but I’d find it hard to believe that Big 12 presidents wouldn’t look at those institutional fit and academic charts and not want to add to the academic reputation of the conference. Much like the AAC must decide if it wants to favor football, basketball, or academics the next round of Big 12 expansion may come down to a similar decision: institutional fit or football?

I think SMU and USF have a really good chance. Both being big rivalry games, monster markets, top level academics… we fit better than Boise does by far.

Boise just got beat by Nevada… got a feeling their successful run is coming to an end. If it does, then you have a tiny market and a long trip.
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