(09-26-2021 10:56 PM)freshtop Wrote:  

(09-26-2021 10:43 PM)WKUApollo Wrote:  

(09-26-2021 10:41 PM)freshtop Wrote:  

(09-26-2021 09:08 PM)topper1296 Wrote:  For the people that don't know....when the "new side" was built (the side on the top of the pic), they did the engineering and architecture work to be able to add a second deck to expand the capacity to ~45k if we ever need it.

Initial plans called for a structure on the Big Red Way endzone side that would have gone over the road. I think that would have allowed fo.r an upper deck to hit 45k, without that structure i think it is more like 35k.

That's what I'd heard. Just an upper deck on the new side to get to 40k would have to be a deck that holds 18,000..more than both decks on the old side.

Yep, an upper deck for about 8k on new side and a berm/stands behind the endzone for 2k and we are in the neighborhood of 35k (standing room included). I think it would be a bit hasty to push something like that right now though. Focus on the indoor practice facility and pressbox reno first.

Here is where the 45k number came from.

Quote:Selig said the new portion of the stadium was erected in a fashion that could eventually allow WKU to place an upper deck atop the new side. Such an expansion would increase the stadium’s capacity to as many as 45,000 seats.

“Eventually, when we get to that point where we expand Houchens-Smith to 40 or 45,000 seats, absolutely,” he said. “We can then be in a position where this particular game makes a lot of sense to play in Bowling Green.

“The design work has been done, the architectural work has been done to allow for future expansion of Houchens-Smith Stadium.”

http://www.bgdailynews.com/sports/selig-...6b4a5.html

(09-26-2021 11:40 PM)topper1296 Wrote:  

(09-26-2021 10:56 PM)freshtop Wrote:  

(09-26-2021 10:43 PM)WKUApollo Wrote:  

(09-26-2021 10:41 PM)freshtop Wrote:  

(09-26-2021 09:08 PM)topper1296 Wrote:  For the people that don't know....when the "new side" was built (the side on the top of the pic), they did the engineering and architecture work to be able to add a second deck to expand the capacity to ~45k if we ever need it.

Initial plans called for a structure on the Big Red Way endzone side that would have gone over the road. I think that would have allowed fo.r an upper deck to hit 45k, without that structure i think it is more like 35k.

That's what I'd heard. Just an upper deck on the new side to get to 40k would have to be a deck that holds 18,000..more than both decks on the old side.

Yep, an upper deck for about 8k on new side and a berm/stands behind the endzone for 2k and we are in the neighborhood of 35k (standing room included). I think it would be a bit hasty to push something like that right now though. Focus on the indoor practice facility and pressbox reno first.

Here is where the 45k number came from.

Quote:Selig said the new portion of the stadium was erected in a fashion that could eventually allow WKU to place an upper deck atop the new side. Such an expansion would increase the stadium’s capacity to as many as 45,000 seats.

“Eventually, when we get to that point where we expand Houchens-Smith to 40 or 45,000 seats, absolutely,” he said. “We can then be in a position where this particular game makes a lot of sense to play in Bowling Green.

“The design work has been done, the architectural work has been done to allow for future expansion of Houchens-Smith Stadium.”

http://www.bgdailynews.com/sports/selig-...6b4a5.html

I honestly dont think any fan over the age of 40 will have to worry about seeing that get finished in their lifetime. One thing I know for 100% sure...

if it was done it would be done correctly. I know with Gary appearance mattered, a lot. I think that will carry on at Western, from looking at any new building that's put up. Its important for things to look like they fit in and not put up cheaply or cheap looking. It's one reason why Houchen-Smith Stadium built in the 60s still has that "fits in" feel to it. Where some stadiums build in the 80s looks old and ran down.

Another CUSA school that thinks like that is UNCC and their campus and Western's has a lot of the same feel.

But Western will never need to add more seats because attendance is dropping in all sports and I think that will continue. Today 25 to 30k is about the prefect size for a G5 football stadium.

One other thing...never ever ever take Wood at what he says as 100% fact. My take on Wood is he talks around things and gives his version of what they mean.

The quote isn't wrong, but it was factoring in the end zone seating that was scratched. There is no way to add an upper deck to the new side that would hold 22k people.

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(09-26-2021 08:26 AM)herdfan129 Wrote:  ODU attendance looked terrible on TV. Maybe 8k from what I saw.

Granted I didn’t turn on the WKU game until late 4th quarter but there stadium wasn’t even close to full. Looked like 18k maybe? Did a bunch of people leave early?

When did you turn on the game? First half was pretty good, home side gets fuller than the away side. 2nd half was tough cause a lot of folks gave up on the team down 35-7. There were like 5K students there so 8K is a big big underestimation.

(09-27-2021 12:12 AM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(09-26-2021 11:40 PM)topper1296 Wrote:  

(09-26-2021 10:56 PM)freshtop Wrote:  

(09-26-2021 10:43 PM)WKUApollo Wrote:  

(09-26-2021 10:41 PM)freshtop Wrote:  Initial plans called for a structure on the Big Red Way endzone side that would have gone over the road. I think that would have allowed fo.r an upper deck to hit 45k, without that structure i think it is more like 35k.

That's what I'd heard. Just an upper deck on the new side to get to 40k would have to be a deck that holds 18,000..more than both decks on the old side.

Yep, an upper deck for about 8k on new side and a berm/stands behind the endzone for 2k and we are in the neighborhood of 35k (standing room included). I think it would be a bit hasty to push something like that right now though. Focus on the indoor practice facility and pressbox reno first.

Here is where the 45k number came from.

Quote:Selig said the new portion of the stadium was erected in a fashion that could eventually allow WKU to place an upper deck atop the new side. Such an expansion would increase the stadium’s capacity to as many as 45,000 seats.

“Eventually, when we get to that point where we expand Houchens-Smith to 40 or 45,000 seats, absolutely,” he said. “We can then be in a position where this particular game makes a lot of sense to play in Bowling Green.

“The design work has been done, the architectural work has been done to allow for future expansion of Houchens-Smith Stadium.”

http://www.bgdailynews.com/sports/selig-...6b4a5.html

I honestly dont think any fan over the age of 40 will have to worry about seeing that get finished in their lifetime. One thing I know for 100% sure...

if it was done it would be done correctly. I know with Gary appearance mattered, a lot. I think that will carry on at Western, from looking at any new building that's put up. Its important for things to look like they fit in and not put up cheaply or cheap looking. It's one reason why Houchen-Smith Stadium built in the 60s still has that "fits in" feel to it. Where some stadiums build in the 80s looks old and ran down.

Another CUSA school that thinks like that is UNCC and their campus and Western's has a lot of the same feel.

But Western will never need to add more seats because attendance is dropping in all sports and I think that will continue. Today 25 to 30k is about the prefect size for a G5 football stadium.

One other thing...never ever ever take Wood at what he says as 100% fact. My take on Wood is he talks around things and gives his version of what they mean.

Yep I agree, walked the UNCC campus a few years ago and certainly the buildings and set up reminded me a lot of WKU's campus minus the big hill of course.

(09-26-2021 08:27 AM)herdfan129 Wrote:  La Tech fans look silly after all the trash talking of Louisiana attendance and talking about mid week games killing attendance then having 15k there on a Sat night lol

LA Tech didn't look near as silly as Marshall did losing its' 2nd consecutive game under its' brand new coach. Any buyer's remorse yet?

I won't pretend Tech doesn't have attendance issues right now. But until Skip Holtz can deliver a better product on the field, or the administration does something about it, things won't change. But it really doesn't matter anyway, because, 1) it's not hurting Tech's ability to recruit, and 2) Tech's "money people" are sticking with it, and still donating big, and 3) Tech doesn't have "suitors" to impress, who are looking to extend a new conference invitation anyway.

(09-26-2021 10:50 AM)winston70 Wrote:  Impressive crowd WKU - our attendance has sucked so far this season...

WKU has an exciting product this year. That's what matters.

I hope the stars align and we can take Holtz off your hands.

(09-27-2021 10:50 AM)JCMiner Wrote:  I hope the stars align and we can take Holtz off your hands.

He's done a lot for Tech. Not happy with no CUSA championships, but he at least has us in the running for one every year. Outstanding bowl record also. Just needs a CUSA championship and a few P5 regular season wins. Honestly, if would've delivered on those he'd be gone by now. I do like the stability in having him as our HC. He's really built our program for future success.

(09-27-2021 12:12 AM)WKUYG Wrote:  I honestly dont think any fan over the age of 40 will have to worry about seeing that get finished in their lifetime. One thing I know for 100% sure...

if it was done it would be done correctly. I know with Gary appearance mattered, a lot. I think that will carry on at Western, from looking at any new building that's put up. Its important for things to look like they fit in and not put up cheaply or cheap looking. It's one reason why Houchen-Smith Stadium built in the 60s still has that "fits in" feel to it. Where some stadiums build in the 80s looks old and ran down.

Another CUSA school that thinks like that is UNCC and their campus and Western's has a lot of the same feel.

But Western will never need to add more seats because attendance is dropping in all sports and I think that will continue. Today 25 to 30k is about the prefect size for a G5 football stadium.

One other thing...never ever ever take Wood at what he says as 100% fact. My take on Wood is he talks around things and gives his version of what they mean.

Completely agree with you on both fronts. I don't think we will have the need to expand anytime soon (however would be a great problem to have and I'm glad we planned ahead just in case) and agreed that ~25-30k would be good for the vast majority of programs at the G5 level (or even some low level P5 programs like Vandy since I live in Nashville) since quality of fan experience matter more than quantity of fans (outside of the OSU's and Bama's of the world). In today's world, fans need a reason to come to the game vs sitting in their living room watching the game on a 70' HDTV with Dolby sound. The rise of affordable HDTV has hurt live sports attendance.

(09-27-2021 11:44 AM)topper1296 Wrote:  

(09-27-2021 12:12 AM)WKUYG Wrote:  I honestly dont think any fan over the age of 40 will have to worry about seeing that get finished in their lifetime. One thing I know for 100% sure...

if it was done it would be done correctly. I know with Gary appearance mattered, a lot. I think that will carry on at Western, from looking at any new building that's put up. Its important for things to look like they fit in and not put up cheaply or cheap looking. It's one reason why Houchen-Smith Stadium built in the 60s still has that "fits in" feel to it. Where some stadiums build in the 80s looks old and ran down.

Another CUSA school that thinks like that is UNCC and their campus and Western's has a lot of the same feel.

But Western will never need to add more seats because attendance is dropping in all sports and I think that will continue. Today 25 to 30k is about the prefect size for a G5 football stadium.

One other thing...never ever ever take Wood at what he says as 100% fact. My take on Wood is he talks around things and gives his version of what they mean.

Completely agree with you on both fronts. I don't think we will have the need to expand anytime soon (however would be a great problem to have and I'm glad we planned ahead just in case) and agreed that ~25-30k would be good for the vast majority of programs at the G5 level (or even some low level P5 programs like Vandy since I live in Nashville) since quality of fan experience matter more than quantity of fans (outside of the OSU's and Bama's of the world). In today's world, fans need a reason to come to the game vs sitting in their living room watching the game on a 70' HDTV with Dolby sound. The rise of affordable HDTV has hurt live sports attendance.

My buddy was at the Vandy vs. UGA game earlier that day and he said way more WKU fans than Vandy had. Does Vandy really deserve SEC? They have zero fans...Will never forget playing them in Bridgestone in hoops about a mile away from their campus and they literally had about 200 fans on a Sunday afternoon while WKU had 10k there..

(09-27-2021 10:02 AM)HogDawg Wrote:  

(09-26-2021 08:27 AM)herdfan129 Wrote:  La Tech fans look silly after all the trash talking of Louisiana attendance and talking about mid week games killing attendance then having 15k there on a Sat night lol

LA Tech didn't look near as silly as Marshall did losing its' 2nd consecutive game under its' brand new coach. Any buyer's remorse yet?

I won't pretend Tech doesn't have attendance issues right now. But until Skip Holtz can deliver a better product on the field, or the administration does something about it, things won't change. But it really doesn't matter anyway, because, 1) it's not hurting Tech's ability to recruit, and 2) Tech's "money people" are sticking with it, and still donating big, and 3) Tech doesn't have "suitors" to impress, who are looking to extend a new conference invitation anyway.

No buyers remorse for me. I’m still happy with Coach Huff. You can’t change an entire culture in one off-season. Of course I would love to be 4-0 and think we should be 4-0 but at our level, coaches are typically forced to learn on the job and that’s what we are seeing with coach Huff.

We are a missed FG and recovering an onside kick away from being 4-0. Hard to complain too much after the mess he took over.

I've been trying to convince everyone in EP to downsize and modernize the Sun Bowl. If we could chairback the gold sections and add pavilions on the east side of the stadium I think our capacity would drop to around 40k. Imo that's the perfect size for the Sun Bowl.

(09-27-2021 09:27 AM)WKUFan518 Wrote:  

(09-27-2021 12:12 AM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(09-26-2021 11:40 PM)topper1296 Wrote:  

(09-26-2021 10:56 PM)freshtop Wrote:  

(09-26-2021 10:43 PM)WKUApollo Wrote:  That's what I'd heard. Just an upper deck on the new side to get to 40k would have to be a deck that holds 18,000..more than both decks on the old side.

Yep, an upper deck for about 8k on new side and a berm/stands behind the endzone for 2k and we are in the neighborhood of 35k (standing room included). I think it would be a bit hasty to push something like that right now though. Focus on the indoor practice facility and pressbox reno first.

Here is where the 45k number came from.

Quote:Selig said the new portion of the stadium was erected in a fashion that could eventually allow WKU to place an upper deck atop the new side. Such an expansion would increase the stadium’s capacity to as many as 45,000 seats.

“Eventually, when we get to that point where we expand Houchens-Smith to 40 or 45,000 seats, absolutely,” he said. “We can then be in a position where this particular game makes a lot of sense to play in Bowling Green.

“The design work has been done, the architectural work has been done to allow for future expansion of Houchens-Smith Stadium.”

http://www.bgdailynews.com/sports/selig-...6b4a5.html

I honestly dont think any fan over the age of 40 will have to worry about seeing that get finished in their lifetime. One thing I know for 100% sure...

if it was done it would be done correctly. I know with Gary appearance mattered, a lot. I think that will carry on at Western, from looking at any new building that's put up. Its important for things to look like they fit in and not put up cheaply or cheap looking. It's one reason why Houchen-Smith Stadium built in the 60s still has that "fits in" feel to it. Where some stadiums build in the 80s looks old and ran down.

Another CUSA school that thinks like that is UNCC and their campus and Western's has a lot of the same feel.

But Western will never need to add more seats because attendance is dropping in all sports and I think that will continue. Today 25 to 30k is about the prefect size for a G5 football stadium.

One other thing...never ever ever take Wood at what he says as 100% fact. My take on Wood is he talks around things and gives his version of what they mean.

Yep I agree, walked the UNCC campus a few years ago and certainly the buildings and set up reminded me a lot of WKU's campus minus the big hill of course.

clt says we have rolling hills

(09-26-2021 11:40 PM)topper1296 Wrote:  

(09-26-2021 10:56 PM)freshtop Wrote:  

(09-26-2021 10:43 PM)WKUApollo Wrote:  

(09-26-2021 10:41 PM)freshtop Wrote:  

(09-26-2021 09:08 PM)topper1296 Wrote:  For the people that don't know....when the "new side" was built (the side on the top of the pic), they did the engineering and architecture work to be able to add a second deck to expand the capacity to ~45k if we ever need it.

Initial plans called for a structure on the Big Red Way endzone side that would have gone over the road. I think that would have allowed fo.r an upper deck to hit 45k, without that structure i think it is more like 35k.

That's what I'd heard. Just an upper deck on the new side to get to 40k would have to be a deck that holds 18,000..more than both decks on the old side.

Yep, an upper deck for about 8k on new side and a berm/stands behind the endzone for 2k and we are in the neighborhood of 35k (standing room included). I think it would be a bit hasty to push something like that right now though. Focus on the indoor practice facility and pressbox reno first.

Here is where the 45k number came from.

Quote:Selig said the new portion of the stadium was erected in a fashion that could eventually allow WKU to place an upper deck atop the new side. Such an expansion would increase the stadium’s capacity to as many as 45,000 seats.

“Eventually, when we get to that point where we expand Houchens-Smith to 40 or 45,000 seats, absolutely,” he said. “We can then be in a position where this particular game makes a lot of sense to play in Bowling Green.

“The design work has been done, the architectural work has been done to allow for future expansion of Houchens-Smith Stadium.”

http://www.bgdailynews.com/sports/selig-...6b4a5.html

If Selig said, dont believe it. Unless you think we have 25,000 seat stadium on the water that is all chair backs and the nicest stadium of its size in all of the G5.

(09-27-2021 01:15 PM)ghostofclt! Wrote:  

(09-27-2021 09:27 AM)WKUFan518 Wrote:  

(09-27-2021 12:12 AM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(09-26-2021 11:40 PM)topper1296 Wrote:  

(09-26-2021 10:56 PM)freshtop Wrote:  Yep, an upper deck for about 8k on new side and a berm/stands behind the endzone for 2k and we are in the neighborhood of 35k (standing room included). I think it would be a bit hasty to push something like that right now though. Focus on the indoor practice facility and pressbox reno first.

Here is where the 45k number came from.

Quote:Selig said the new portion of the stadium was erected in a fashion that could eventually allow WKU to place an upper deck atop the new side. Such an expansion would increase the stadium’s capacity to as many as 45,000 seats.

“Eventually, when we get to that point where we expand Houchens-Smith to 40 or 45,000 seats, absolutely,” he said. “We can then be in a position where this particular game makes a lot of sense to play in Bowling Green.

“The design work has been done, the architectural work has been done to allow for future expansion of Houchens-Smith Stadium.”

http://www.bgdailynews.com/sports/selig-...6b4a5.html

I honestly dont think any fan over the age of 40 will have to worry about seeing that get finished in their lifetime. One thing I know for 100% sure...

if it was done it would be done correctly. I know with Gary appearance mattered, a lot. I think that will carry on at Western, from looking at any new building that's put up. Its important for things to look like they fit in and not put up cheaply or cheap looking. It's one reason why Houchen-Smith Stadium built in the 60s still has that "fits in" feel to it. Where some stadiums build in the 80s looks old and ran down.

Another CUSA school that thinks like that is UNCC and their campus and Western's has a lot of the same feel.

But Western will never need to add more seats because attendance is dropping in all sports and I think that will continue. Today 25 to 30k is about the prefect size for a G5 football stadium.

One other thing...never ever ever take Wood at what he says as 100% fact. My take on Wood is he talks around things and gives his version of what they mean.

Yep I agree, walked the UNCC campus a few years ago and certainly the buildings and set up reminded me a lot of WKU's campus minus the big hill of course.

clt says we have rolling hills

loki notes that Rice had no hills so we built one.

(09-26-2021 09:08 PM)topper1296 Wrote:  For the people that don't know....when the "new side" was built (the side on the top of the pic), they did the engineering and architecture work to be able to add a second deck to expand the capacity to ~45k if we ever need it.

So your saying it's a grower...not a shower.