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RE: The new American Athletic Conference
(09-21-2021 11:34 PM)Milwaukee Wrote:  
(09-21-2021 11:20 PM)NoQuarterBrigade Wrote:  What about this? This is with the assumption that Boise stays put where they are because of the expected future Big12 invite. And I don’t feel confident about San Diego State coming, unless there are a number of other Mountain West schools brought into the mix.

So that leaves us with this. I think we will be at 12 football schools. Army and VCU are the big question marks. If we could get them both, I think we should try to go after two more solid basketball schools that carry baseball as well since we are losing so much with the departing schools.

Hesitant to grab two more football schools at this time, until we absolutely need to get them. Maybe two more later if we have more departures.

East
Army / VCU
ECU
Memphis
Temple
UAB
USF
Maybe Dayton here for basketball
West
Air Force
Colorado State
Navy / Wichita State
SMU
Tulane
Tulsa
And maybe Saint Louis here for basketball

That may be your best effort yet.

If Army's a no-go, substitute App. State or Coastal (whichever would do FB-only)

Otherwise, this might be close to what we can expect to see, though I would prefer Marshall, ULL, LTU, and Buffalo to UAB.

I like how you've penciled in Dayton and St. Louis (noting that one of those could equally go to a Loyola-Chicago).

If the AAC doesn't add enough good basketball schools, it will fall behind the "Major 7" BB conferences. . Crucially, being a "Major 7" (like the Big East) may be the only thing that keeps the American from being described as a "mid-major" conference.

Being referred to as a "mid-major" would be the kiss of death for the AAC.
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Am really sorry to break this to ya....but the AAC has always been known as a mid major thruout the country. The only talk of "Major 7" is from AAC bent articles. Most of the country has never even heard of a Major 7. I understand this is an AAC board so I get the rah-rah stuff. Just giving you a bit of a dose of, "REAL", reality.
And with the new conf.....well....I don't have to tell ya where that will lie in the pecking order of the BB world. You all already know.
The conf needed BSU for football and SDSU for basketball plus has a very good football team but even if they got them-----Mid major.
You realize the AAC is on par with the A-10 in pecking order of conf's---right?
Both were then and are now mid majors but it ain't the death knell.
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RE: The new American Athletic Conference
(09-21-2021 11:48 PM)BigHouston Wrote:  
(09-21-2021 11:26 AM)40smokingcannon Wrote:  Are you guys ready for this? Here you go.

Temple
Memphis
USF
E Carolina
App State
Southern Miss
Georgia St
Army/VCU

Navy/Wichita St
SMU
Tulsa
Colorado St
Air Force
UTSA
Tulane
UNLV

All good markets (even ECU is 102)
3 Academies
California, Texas, Florida recruiting
Inventory in all time zones
Definite Power conference

It’s been reported that San Diego State along with Boise are staying put so I would replace them with App State.

Never really been impressed with UAB... To me they’re a big risk... I would eliminate them from the list and ink Southern Miss in UAB’s spot instead.

I honestly believe if Southern Miss was in a better league they’re football program will revive instantly.

https://sicem365.com/s/10554/big-12-expa...-vs-big-12
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(09-22-2021 06:44 AM)goliath74 Wrote:  Someone should explain to me, a non-AAC fan, why all the talk of the demise of this conference? "So and so won't save this conference", "AAC is dead", etc.

Really? There's some sort of existential threat to AAC if the MWC 4 do not join?

According to the Henny Pennies and the nervous Nellies, perhaps, but not to the rest.
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(09-21-2021 11:51 PM)NoQuarterBrigade Wrote:  
(09-21-2021 11:34 PM)Milwaukee Wrote:  
(09-21-2021 11:20 PM)NoQuarterBrigade Wrote:  What about this? This is with the assumption that Boise stays put where they are because of the expected future Big12 invite. And I don’t feel confident about San Diego State coming, unless there are a number of other Mountain West schools brought into the mix.

So that leaves us with this. I think we will be at 12 football schools. Army and VCU are the big question marks. If we could get them both, I think we should try to go after two more solid basketball schools that carry baseball as well since we are losing so much with the departing schools.

Hesitant to grab two more football schools at this time, until we absolutely need to get them. Maybe two more later if we have more departures.

East
Army / VCU
ECU
Memphis
Temple
UAB
USF
Maybe Dayton here for basketball
West
Air Force
Colorado State
Navy / Wichita State
SMU
Tulane
Tulsa
And maybe Saint Louis here for basketball

That may be your best effort yet.

If Army's a no-go, substitute App. State or Coastal (whichever would do FB-only)

Otherwise, this might be close to what we can expect to see, though I would prefer Marshall, ULL, LTU, and Buffalo to UAB.

I like how you've penciled in Dayton and St. Louis (noting that one of those could equally go to a Loyola-Chicago).

If the AAC doesn't add enough good basketball schools, it will fall behind the "Major 7" BB conferences. . Crucially, being a "Major 7" (like the Big East) may be the only thing that keeps the American from being described as a "mid-major" conference.

Being referred to as a "mid-major" would be the kiss of death for the AAC.
Yeah basketball concerns me. We can’t focus too much on football. We are losing some good basketball programs. I was thinking Dayton and Saint Louis because of the association with VCU. Maybe they’ll come altogether. Hesitant on Loyola, because they have a new coach. Will they begin to fade again?

WKU would give You pretty Good Basketball and good competitive Football
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The new American Athletic Conference
(09-22-2021 08:28 PM)goldeneagle21 Wrote:  
(09-21-2021 11:48 PM)BigHouston Wrote:  
(09-21-2021 11:26 AM)40smokingcannon Wrote:  Are you guys ready for this? Here you go.

Temple
Memphis
USF
E Carolina
App State
Southern Miss
Georgia St
Army/VCU

Navy/Wichita St
SMU
Tulsa
Colorado St
Air Force
UTSA
Tulane
UNLV

All good markets (even ECU is 102)
3 Academies
California, Texas, Florida recruiting
Inventory in all time zones
Definite Power conference

It’s been reported that San Diego State along with Boise are staying put so I would replace them with App State.

Never really been impressed with UAB... To me they’re a big risk... I would eliminate them from the list and ink Southern Miss in UAB’s spot instead.

I honestly believe if Southern Miss was in a better league they’re football program will revive instantly.

https://sicem365.com/s/10554/big-12-expa...-vs-big-12


Haha he took this out

“Back to Chapter 2, other than Memphis and Boise State being more than on the radar, look for visits and/or discussion with Tulane, SMU and possibly even Southern Mississippi. Some of you will wonder why? Well, I did too, but I'm being told there's a method to this madness and while most don't see or understand any eyeballs help with SMU...ESPN likes SMU's presence in the Dallas market.”
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RE: The new American Athletic Conference
(09-22-2021 08:03 PM)Seurat Wrote:  
(09-21-2021 11:34 PM)Milwaukee Wrote:  
(09-21-2021 11:20 PM)NoQuarterBrigade Wrote:  What about this? This is with the assumption that Boise stays put where they are because of the expected future Big12 invite. And I don’t feel confident about San Diego State coming, unless there are a number of other Mountain West schools brought into the mix.

So that leaves us with this. I think we will be at 12 football schools. Army and VCU are the big question marks. If we could get them both, I think we should try to go after two more solid basketball schools that carry baseball as well since we are losing so much with the departing schools.

Hesitant to grab two more football schools at this time, until we absolutely need to get them. Maybe two more later if we have more departures.

East
Army / VCU
ECU
Memphis
Temple
UAB
USF
Maybe Dayton here for basketball
West
Air Force
Colorado State
Navy / Wichita State
SMU
Tulane
Tulsa
And maybe Saint Louis here for basketball

That may be your best effort yet.

If Army's a no-go, substitute App. State or Coastal (whichever would do FB-only)

Otherwise, this might be close to what we can expect to see, though I would prefer Marshall, ULL, LTU, and Buffalo to UAB.

I like how you've penciled in Dayton and St. Louis (noting that one of those could equally go to a Loyola-Chicago).

If the AAC doesn't add enough good basketball schools, it will fall behind the "Major 7" BB conferences. . Crucially, being a "Major 7" (like the Big East) may be the only thing that keeps the American from being described as a "mid-major" conference.

Being referred to as a "mid-major" would be the kiss of death for the AAC.
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Am really sorry to break this to ya....but the AAC has always been known as a mid major thruout the country. The only talk of "Major 7" is from AAC bent articles. Most of the country has never even heard of a Major 7. I understand this is an AAC board so I get the rah-rah stuff. Just giving you a bit of a dose of, "REAL", reality.
And with the new conf.....well....I don't have to tell ya where that will lie in the pecking order of the BB world. You all already know.
The conf needed BSU for football and SDSU for basketball plus has a very good football team but even if they got them-----Mid major.
You realize the AAC is on par with the A-10 in pecking order of conf's---right?
Both were then and are now mid majors but it ain't the death knell.

OMG…I hate all of these stupid labels in college athletics such as Power 5, Major 7, mid major, and group of five. I hate them all. They do so much harm. They affect recruiting, rankings, conference realignment, etc. If you have a certain label associated with you and your school or conference, you are automatically looked at in a negative way regardless of how well you’ve performed. If you have the group of five or the mid major label on you, you’re at a disadvantage from the start. There is nothing “REAL” about these labels, they’re just labels, and they’ve created a “REAL” crap load of problems in college athletics. Take this “REAL” you talk about elsewhere. We are very aware of reality around here.
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RE: The new American Athletic Conference
(09-22-2021 08:28 PM)goldeneagle21 Wrote:  
(09-21-2021 11:48 PM)BigHouston Wrote:  
(09-21-2021 11:26 AM)40smokingcannon Wrote:  Are you guys ready for this? Here you go.

Temple
Memphis
USF
E Carolina
App State
Southern Miss
Georgia St
Army/VCU

Navy/Wichita St
SMU
Tulsa
Colorado St
Air Force
UTSA
Tulane
UNLV

All good markets (even ECU is 102)
3 Academies
California, Texas, Florida recruiting
Inventory in all time zones
Definite Power conference

It’s been reported that San Diego State along with Boise are staying put so I would replace them with App State.

Never really been impressed with UAB... To me they’re a big risk... I would eliminate them from the list and ink Southern Miss in UAB’s spot instead.

I honestly believe if Southern Miss was in a better league they’re football program will revive instantly.

https://sicem365.com/s/10554/big-12-expa...-vs-big-12

I'm not completely sold on the notion that the B12 is adding schools anytime soon. I think media companies are going to want to see viewership numbers, otherwise the conferences will end up diluting their teams shares.
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RE: The new American Athletic Conference
(09-22-2021 11:37 PM)Fishpro10987 Wrote:  
(09-22-2021 08:28 PM)goldeneagle21 Wrote:  
(09-21-2021 11:48 PM)BigHouston Wrote:  
(09-21-2021 11:26 AM)40smokingcannon Wrote:  Are you guys ready for this? Here you go.

Temple
Memphis
USF
E Carolina
App State
Southern Miss
Georgia St
Army/VCU

Navy/Wichita St
SMU
Tulsa
Colorado St
Air Force
UTSA
Tulane
UNLV

All good markets (even ECU is 102)
3 Academies
California, Texas, Florida recruiting
Inventory in all time zones
Definite Power conference

It’s been reported that San Diego State along with Boise are staying put so I would replace them with App State.

Never really been impressed with UAB... To me they’re a big risk... I would eliminate them from the list and ink Southern Miss in UAB’s spot instead.

I honestly believe if Southern Miss was in a better league they’re football program will revive instantly.

https://sicem365.com/s/10554/big-12-expa...-vs-big-12

I'm not completely sold on the notion that the B12 is adding schools anytime soon. I think media companies are going to want to see viewership numbers, otherwise the conferences will end up diluting their teams shares.

I agree. While the remaining 8 B-12 schools may want to be more proactive in their membership numbers now without UT/OU (who were consistently against it in the past), the added schools from the AAC have also consistently been against expanded membership in the AAC. This might create a prevailing view that additional expansion will not be undertaken unless it adds value rather than security & stability being the primary concerns when the AAC schools were added. There is also the hope among the B-12 that a poor PAC TV contract coming in '23 might give the B-12 the opportunity to poach a couple of PAC schools effectively eliminating the addition of Boise & Memphis.
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RE: The new American Athletic Conference
(09-22-2021 11:35 PM)NoQuarterBrigade Wrote:  
(09-22-2021 08:03 PM)Seurat Wrote:  
(09-21-2021 11:34 PM)Milwaukee Wrote:  
(09-21-2021 11:20 PM)NoQuarterBrigade Wrote:  What about this? This is with the assumption that Boise stays put where they are because of the expected future Big12 invite. And I don’t feel confident about San Diego State coming, unless there are a number of other Mountain West schools brought into the mix.

So that leaves us with this. I think we will be at 12 football schools. Army and VCU are the big question marks. If we could get them both, I think we should try to go after two more solid basketball schools that carry baseball as well since we are losing so much with the departing schools.

Hesitant to grab two more football schools at this time, until we absolutely need to get them. Maybe two more later if we have more departures.

East
Army / VCU
ECU
Memphis
Temple
UAB
USF
Maybe Dayton here for basketball
West
Air Force
Colorado State
Navy / Wichita State
SMU
Tulane
Tulsa
And maybe Saint Louis here for basketball

That may be your best effort yet.

If Army's a no-go, substitute App. State or Coastal (whichever would do FB-only)

Otherwise, this might be close to what we can expect to see, though I would prefer Marshall, ULL, LTU, and Buffalo to UAB.

I like how you've penciled in Dayton and St. Louis (noting that one of those could equally go to a Loyola-Chicago).

If the AAC doesn't add enough good basketball schools, it will fall behind the "Major 7" BB conferences. . Crucially, being a "Major 7" (like the Big East) may be the only thing that keeps the American from being described as a "mid-major" conference.

Being referred to as a "mid-major" would be the kiss of death for the AAC.
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Am really sorry to break this to ya....but the AAC has always been known as a mid major thruout the country. The only talk of "Major 7" is from AAC bent articles. Most of the country has never even heard of a Major 7. I understand this is an AAC board so I get the rah-rah stuff. Just giving you a bit of a dose of, "REAL", reality.
And with the new conf.....well....I don't have to tell ya where that will lie in the pecking order of the BB world. You all already know.
The conf needed BSU for football and SDSU for basketball plus has a very good football team but even if they got them-----Mid major.
You realize the AAC is on par with the A-10 in pecking order of conf's---right?
Both were then and are now mid majors but it ain't the death knell.

OMG…I hate all of these stupid labels in college athletics such as Power 5, Major 7, mid major, and group of five. I hate them all. They do so much harm. They affect recruiting, rankings, conference realignment, etc. If you have a certain label associated with you and your school or conference, you are automatically looked at in a negative way regardless of how well you’ve performed. If you have the group of five or the mid major label on you, you’re at a disadvantage from the start. There is nothing “REAL” about these labels, they’re just labels, and they’ve created a “REAL” crap load of problems in college athletics. Take this “REAL” you talk about elsewhere. We are very aware of reality around here.
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That whole last post was pretty on the mark.
No wonder you don't like the label the AAC and others have as a mid major.
Just so ya know....I, (or most anyone else), don't use the term Major 7.
But....hey...you brought it up. I simply called you on it. That's a label I would never even think to bring up.
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RE: The new American Athletic Conference
(09-23-2021 10:43 AM)Seurat Wrote:  
(09-22-2021 11:35 PM)NoQuarterBrigade Wrote:  
(09-22-2021 08:03 PM)Seurat Wrote:  
(09-21-2021 11:34 PM)Milwaukee Wrote:  
(09-21-2021 11:20 PM)NoQuarterBrigade Wrote:  What about this? This is with the assumption that Boise stays put where they are because of the expected future Big12 invite. And I don’t feel confident about San Diego State coming, unless there are a number of other Mountain West schools brought into the mix.

So that leaves us with this. I think we will be at 12 football schools. Army and VCU are the big question marks. If we could get them both, I think we should try to go after two more solid basketball schools that carry baseball as well since we are losing so much with the departing schools.

Hesitant to grab two more football schools at this time, until we absolutely need to get them. Maybe two more later if we have more departures.

East
Army / VCU
ECU
Memphis
Temple
UAB
USF
Maybe Dayton here for basketball
West
Air Force
Colorado State
Navy / Wichita State
SMU
Tulane
Tulsa
And maybe Saint Louis here for basketball

That may be your best effort yet.

If Army's a no-go, substitute App. State or Coastal (whichever would do FB-only)

Otherwise, this might be close to what we can expect to see, though I would prefer Marshall, ULL, LTU, and Buffalo to UAB.

I like how you've penciled in Dayton and St. Louis (noting that one of those could equally go to a Loyola-Chicago).

If the AAC doesn't add enough good basketball schools, it will fall behind the "Major 7" BB conferences. . Crucially, being a "Major 7" (like the Big East) may be the only thing that keeps the American from being described as a "mid-major" conference.

Being referred to as a "mid-major" would be the kiss of death for the AAC.
____________________________________________________________________
Am really sorry to break this to ya....but the AAC has always been known as a mid major thruout the country. The only talk of "Major 7" is from AAC bent articles. Most of the country has never even heard of a Major 7. I understand this is an AAC board so I get the rah-rah stuff. Just giving you a bit of a dose of, "REAL", reality.
And with the new conf.....well....I don't have to tell ya where that will lie in the pecking order of the BB world. You all already know.
The conf needed BSU for football and SDSU for basketball plus has a very good football team but even if they got them-----Mid major.
You realize the AAC is on par with the A-10 in pecking order of conf's---right?
Both were then and are now mid majors but it ain't the death knell.

OMG…I hate all of these stupid labels in college athletics such as Power 5, Major 7, mid major, and group of five. I hate them all. They do so much harm. They affect recruiting, rankings, conference realignment, etc. If you have a certain label associated with you and your school or conference, you are automatically looked at in a negative way regardless of how well you’ve performed. If you have the group of five or the mid major label on you, you’re at a disadvantage from the start. There is nothing “REAL” about these labels, they’re just labels, and they’ve created a “REAL” crap load of problems in college athletics. Take this “REAL” you talk about elsewhere. We are very aware of reality around here.
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That whole last post was pretty on the mark.
No wonder you don't like the label the AAC and others have as a mid major.
Just so ya know....I, (or most anyone else), don't use the term Major 7.
But....hey...you brought it up. I simply called you on it. That's a label I would never even think to bring up.
No. I never used it. It was the other poster replying to my post, but okay.
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RE: The new American Athletic Conference
(09-22-2021 11:35 PM)NoQuarterBrigade Wrote:  
(09-21-2021 11:34 PM)Milwaukee Wrote:  If the AAC doesn't add enough good basketball schools, it will fall behind the "Major 7" BB conferences. . Crucially, being a "Major 7" (like the Big East) may be the only thing that keeps the American from being described as a "mid-major" conference.

Being referred to as a "mid-major" would be the kiss of death for the AAC.
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Am really sorry to break this to ya....but the AAC has always been known as a mid major thruout the country. The only talk of "Major 7" is from AAC bent articles.

That's misinformation, No Quarter, and it's very easily disproven.

What I wrote was well sourced, and you were simply mistaken.

.

The "Major 7" has definitely been a "thing" on CBS Sports and ESPN and among other leading journalists.

It isn't just of interest to AAC fans. It's also of great interest to Big East fans.


Examples of sources:

"Adding Wichita State means the AAC must now be counted as a 'Major 7' conference"

https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/adding-wichita-state-means-the-aac-must-be-counted-as-a-major-7-conference/

.


"How we rank the top seven conferences in college basketball"


ESPN - Feb 19, 2019. (This article ranked the AAC as the #6 conference).

https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basket...basketball

.

There is an entire website devoted to covering the mid-major conferences (midmajormadness.com). According to them, the AAC is not a mid-major conference.


Mid-Major Teams by Conference

Their list of mid-major teams includes teams from the 24 conferences not including the P5, Big East, and American Athletic Conferences.

https://www.midmajormadness.com/pages/mi...conference

.


From Commissioner Aresco's standpoint, it would be a good thing for AAC fans to promote the conference, rather than to put it down.

I try to to do what I can to give the conference a bit of a boost - - not with opinions, but with the facts.

.

The concern that I mentioned is that if the AAC doesn't reload with high quality basketball schools, it could all too easily lose its Major 7 stature, which it has enjoyed in recent years.

That concern is very real, especially given the fact that there was only one AAC team in the 2021 NCAA "Field of 64," for the first time since the inception of the AAC.

On the positive side, however, the AAC did rank #7 among the conferences in the Massey Basketball Composite Rankings last season. Houston's trip to the Elite Eight and Memphis' NIT Championship couldn't have come at a much better time.

It also seems much more likely that there will be three AAC teams in the 2022 NCAA tournament, which has been the conference's historical average.

What happens next is up to the AAC. They can go forward as a major or as a mid-major conference in the eyes of major sports journalism.
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RE: The new American Athletic Conference
(09-22-2021 08:03 PM)Seurat Wrote:  
(09-21-2021 11:34 PM)Milwaukee Wrote:  
(09-21-2021 11:20 PM)NoQuarterBrigade Wrote:  What about this? This is with the assumption that Boise stays put where they are because of the expected future Big12 invite. And I don’t feel confident about San Diego State coming, unless there are a number of other Mountain West schools brought into the mix.

So that leaves us with this. I think we will be at 12 football schools. Army and VCU are the big question marks. If we could get them both, I think we should try to go after two more solid basketball schools that carry baseball as well since we are losing so much with the departing schools.

Hesitant to grab two more football schools at this time, until we absolutely need to get them. Maybe two more later if we have more departures.

East
Army / VCU
ECU
Memphis
Temple
UAB
USF
Maybe Dayton here for basketball
West
Air Force
Colorado State
Navy / Wichita State
SMU
Tulane
Tulsa
And maybe Saint Louis here for basketball

That may be your best effort yet.

If Army's a no-go, substitute App. State or Coastal (whichever would do FB-only)

Otherwise, this might be close to what we can expect to see, though I would prefer Marshall, ULL, LTU, and Buffalo to UAB.

I like how you've penciled in Dayton and St. Louis (noting that one of those could equally go to a Loyola-Chicago).

If the AAC doesn't add enough good basketball schools, it will fall behind the "Major 7" BB conferences. . Crucially, being a "Major 7" (like the Big East) may be the only thing that keeps the American from being described as a "mid-major" conference.

Being referred to as a "mid-major" would be the kiss of death for the AAC.
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Am really sorry to break this to ya....but the AAC has always been known as a mid major thruout the country. The only talk of "Major 7" is from AAC bent articles. Most of the country has never even heard of a Major 7. I understand this is an AAC board so I get the rah-rah stuff. Just giving you a bit of a dose of, "REAL", reality.
And with the new conf.....well....I don't have to tell ya where that will lie in the pecking order of the BB world. You all already know.
The conf needed BSU for football and SDSU for basketball plus has a very good football team but even if they got them-----Mid major.
You realize the AAC is on par with the A-10 in pecking order of conf's---right?
Both were then and are now mid majors but it ain't the death knell.


You either cluelessly don't understand the difference between "power," "major" and "mid-major" college hoops conferences — or you do and you're lamely trash talking.
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RE: The new American Athletic Conference
(09-23-2021 11:47 AM)NoQuarterBrigade Wrote:  
(09-23-2021 10:43 AM)Seurat Wrote:  
(09-22-2021 11:35 PM)NoQuarterBrigade Wrote:  
(09-22-2021 08:03 PM)Seurat Wrote:  
(09-21-2021 11:34 PM)Milwaukee Wrote:  That may be your best effort yet.

If Army's a no-go, substitute App. State or Coastal (whichever would do FB-only)

Otherwise, this might be close to what we can expect to see, though I would prefer Marshall, ULL, LTU, and Buffalo to UAB.

I like how you've penciled in Dayton and St. Louis (noting that one of those could equally go to a Loyola-Chicago).

If the AAC doesn't add enough good basketball schools, it will fall behind the "Major 7" BB conferences. . Crucially, being a "Major 7" (like the Big East) may be the only thing that keeps the American from being described as a "mid-major" conference.

Being referred to as a "mid-major" would be the kiss of death for the AAC.
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Am really sorry to break this to ya....but the AAC has always been known as a mid major thruout the country. The only talk of "Major 7" is from AAC bent articles. Most of the country has never even heard of a Major 7. I understand this is an AAC board so I get the rah-rah stuff. Just giving you a bit of a dose of, "REAL", reality.
And with the new conf.....well....I don't have to tell ya where that will lie in the pecking order of the BB world. You all already know.
The conf needed BSU for football and SDSU for basketball plus has a very good football team but even if they got them-----Mid major.
You realize the AAC is on par with the A-10 in pecking order of conf's---right?
Both were then and are now mid majors but it ain't the death knell.

OMG…I hate all of these stupid labels in college athletics such as Power 5, Major 7, mid major, and group of five. I hate them all. They do so much harm. They affect recruiting, rankings, conference realignment, etc. If you have a certain label associated with you and your school or conference, you are automatically looked at in a negative way regardless of how well you’ve performed. If you have the group of five or the mid major label on you, you’re at a disadvantage from the start. There is nothing “REAL” about these labels, they’re just labels, and they’ve created a “REAL” crap load of problems in college athletics. Take this “REAL” you talk about elsewhere. We are very aware of reality around here.
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That whole last post was pretty on the mark.
No wonder you don't like the label the AAC and others have as a mid major.
Just so ya know....I, (or most anyone else), don't use the term Major 7.
But....hey...you brought it up. I simply called you on it. That's a label I would never even think to bring up.
No. I never used it. It was the other poster replying to my post, but okay.
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My mistake.
I was addressing that particular quote. If it wasn't yours, I apologize.
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RE: The new American Athletic Conference
(09-24-2021 07:25 AM)Seurat Wrote:  
(09-23-2021 11:47 AM)NoQuarterBrigade Wrote:  
(09-23-2021 10:43 AM)Seurat Wrote:  
(09-22-2021 11:35 PM)NoQuarterBrigade Wrote:  
(09-22-2021 08:03 PM)Seurat Wrote:  ____________________________________________________________________
Am really sorry to break this to ya....but the AAC has always been known as a mid major thruout the country. The only talk of "Major 7" is from AAC bent articles. Most of the country has never even heard of a Major 7. I understand this is an AAC board so I get the rah-rah stuff. Just giving you a bit of a dose of, "REAL", reality.
And with the new conf.....well....I don't have to tell ya where that will lie in the pecking order of the BB world. You all already know.
The conf needed BSU for football and SDSU for basketball plus has a very good football team but even if they got them-----Mid major.
You realize the AAC is on par with the A-10 in pecking order of conf's---right?
Both were then and are now mid majors but it ain't the death knell.

OMG…I hate all of these stupid labels in college athletics such as Power 5, Major 7, mid major, and group of five. I hate them all. They do so much harm. They affect recruiting, rankings, conference realignment, etc. If you have a certain label associated with you and your school or conference, you are automatically looked at in a negative way regardless of how well you’ve performed. If you have the group of five or the mid major label on you, you’re at a disadvantage from the start. There is nothing “REAL” about these labels, they’re just labels, and they’ve created a “REAL” crap load of problems in college athletics. Take this “REAL” you talk about elsewhere. We are very aware of reality around here.
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That whole last post was pretty on the mark.
No wonder you don't like the label the AAC and others have as a mid major.
Just so ya know....I, (or most anyone else), don't use the term Major 7.
But....hey...you brought it up. I simply called you on it. That's a label I would never even think to bring up.
No. I never used it. It was the other poster replying to my post, but okay.
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My mistake.
I was addressing that particular quote. If it wasn't yours, I apologize.

No problem.
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