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As I scan other conferences and teams, I have notice that they have a lot more traffic than our boards does. We need to start becoming more active and build this fan base. Hope to hear from all of Liberty's fans.... 02-13-banana04-rock
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ASOR

https://forums.aseaofred.com/forums/index.php

Most fans/alum are there
09-20-2021 10:04 PM
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I'm pretty busy right now but I'm here! armymike is usually the straw that stirs the drink but he's been out of commission for a long time and we hope to see him soon.
09-21-2021 06:04 AM
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How to broaden the LU bbs fan base. That's a hard one. First, is to encourage a wider spectrum of thought, discussion, agreement and disagreement. As one who has posted here many times, I've been hounded by LU fans because I did not fall lockstep with the herd in my views. Just check out my ratings and see how one LU fan has repeatedly called me a troll and left negative rating after negative rating. Requests to the board mod, to reign the poster in and remove the neg ratings have produced no action, which ends up supporting the neg posters position. With the result being intense at times PMs between myself and the board mod, with me ultimately going elsewhere and basically abandoning the LU board.

Attacking posters who support LU, that have a different position forces a lack of diversity. And isn't diversity the key to expanding any interest. Stimulating dialogue benefits those that agree and disagree. This is one reason several LU supporters post very little here, including myself. We don't want the hassle of being attacked by posters, and not supported by board leaders. Anyone following LU on others boards knows this is the case, which is unfortunate.
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09-21-2021 08:12 AM
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(09-21-2021 08:12 AM)NewTimes Wrote:  How to broaden the LU bbs fan base. That's a hard one. First, is to encourage a wider spectrum of thought, discussion, agreement and disagreement. As one who has posted here many times, I've been hounded by LU fans because I did not fall lockstep with the herd in my views. Just check out my ratings and see how one LU fan has repeatedly called me a troll and left negative rating after negative rating. Requests to the board mod, to reign the poster in and remove the neg ratings have produced no action, which ends up supporting the neg posters position. With the result being intense at times PMs between myself and the board mod, with me ultimately going elsewhere and basically abandoning the LU board.

Attacking posters who support LU, that have a different position forces a lack of diversity. And isn't diversity the key to expanding any interest. Stimulating dialogue benefits those that agree and disagree. This is one reason several LU supporters post very little here, including myself. We don't want the hassle of being attacked by posters, and not supported by board leaders. Anyone following LU on others boards knows this is the case, which is unfortunate.

Per the AUP (https://csnbbs.com/misc.php?page=aup), moderation is to be discussed in private. This is not a new policy. This is not specific to the Liberty portion of this site. I don't know why I need to remind you EVERY time, especially since you were a mod before. Any issue needs to be in the form of a PM. If you have a problem with me, go the a Super Mod (orange name, or super duper mods with red names).
09-21-2021 09:37 AM
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(09-20-2021 10:04 PM)PAmedic Wrote:  ASOR

https://forums.aseaofred.com/forums/index.php

Most fans/alum are there

That place is lame....super LU homers on there. Its like if you went to Church Camp and started talking about how great Metallica is. They don't get it, want to get it and are stuck in their ways. CSN is much more worldly than that place and I prefer to have all the FBS folks mixed together. If we just keep to ourselves in a safe space how in the world will other FBS fans get a read on us and change their opinion. And yeah going big time in FB means making big boy decisions like accepting LU's old guard is pretty f**ked in the head and we need to adapt or die.
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There was no mod discussion. Only a statement of fact. No disparaging, threating, or uncivil remarks were made. A thicker skin and support for LU fans who bring expanded views would support all. I believe you do the best that you can as you are able.

And yes, I was along with you, we were the original board mods when the LU board began. My resignation was because actions by LU admins (Jr.) of unwise statements and the lack of wise leadership displayed was deplorable. I could not defend unconscious actions by Jr. Then afterwards, when posting those views here, not following the LU unified company line, offering a critical view, I was attacked by one specific LU poster who left consistent multiple neg ratings. I requested a review of the neg ratings. The mod review allowed the neg ratings, which was an endorsement that others could take the same action. I went elsewhere.

And this thread I thought was an opportunity to express a point where the site could be expanded. When I contacted the board owner, GT Swagger, and requested to start a LU site, it was to enjoy LU sports discussions with LU fans, and to banter with opposing team fans. Somehow this has gone off the rails for me and now visits and posts to this site are seldom. As prolific a poster as ArmyMike was, his non activity is not the reason for little activity and interest on the site.

If you allow this post to go through, it will be very interested to see the response from others. As is in most situations in life, somewhere between the two extremes is the truth.
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09-21-2021 10:26 AM
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(09-21-2021 10:26 AM)NewTimes Wrote:  There was no mod discussion. Only a statement of fact. No disparaging, threating, or uncivil remarks were made. A thicker skin and support for LU fans who bring expanded views would support all. I believe you do the best that you can as you are able.

And yes, I was along with you, we were the original board mods when the LU board began. My resignation was because actions by LU admins (Jr.) of unwise statements and the lack of wise leadership displayed was deplorable. I could not defend unconscious actions by Jr. Then afterwards, when posting those views here, not following the LU unified company line, offering a critical view, I was attacked by one specific LU poster who left consistent multiple neg ratings. I requested a review of the neg ratings. The mod review allowed the neg ratings, which was an endorsement that others could take the same action. I went elsewhere.

And this thread I thought was an opportunity to express a point where the site could be expanded. When I contacted the board owner, GT Swagger, and requested to start a LU site, it was to enjoy LU sports discussions with LU fans, and to banter with opposing team fans. Somehow this has gone off the rails for me and now visits and posts to this site are seldom. As prolific a poster as ArmyMike was, his non activity is not the reason for little activity and interest on the site.

If you allow this post to go through, it will be very interested to see the response from others. As is in most situations in life, somewhere between the two extremes is the truth.

I probably called you a butthole and a tshirt fan when all this went down since that feels like something I would do. But leaving negative rep would be out of character for me. NO RAGRETS I HATE YOU ALL!!!!
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Man this thread went south quickly. We need to get along and understand that we are here to support our school/ program. I get a lot of backlash for going on other boards but I just let it go and point out that my team beat theirs by 40.... 02-13-banana02-13-banana02-13-banana
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(09-21-2021 11:02 AM)Sakatalonzo Wrote:  Man this thread went south quickly. We need to get along and understand that we are here to support our school/ program. I get a lot of backlash for going on other boards but I just let it go and point out that my team beat theirs by 40.... 02-13-banana02-13-banana02-13-banana

This hasn't gone south. Have you been in those ODU threads now those are some salty fans. They play a game they aren't willing to lose...crazy.

As for as LU, I hope it improves and with Jerry gone it should get better but we still have some crazy's that need flushed out. You can be Christian and not take it so far you give the school a bad rep.
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You know...I'm here not because I'm a hard core fan of LU, I'm just not. I'm also not a fan of organized religion in the modern age (mostly) but rather I am a 100% fan of college football. However, I do find LU's journey to FBS football and continuing relevance absolutely fascinating. As a result I do casually follow LU's path on the gridiron and started watching some games starting with the first cure bowl in 2019. LU is becoming more and more relevant every single week of every single football season...it's impressive and forces interest from casual fans. As far as posting...I think less religion, politics overall discussed (there is a place for it though...just not when discussing football) will benefit the football interest in LU football/athletics. LU is finding itself following the same (or similar) trajectory of other faith based football schools (Notre Dame, BYU, TCU, etc.) in predictably being tarred and feathered for being different then the "accepted norm" as a result. Keep winning, improving and building in general and all the arbitrary venom from others will fall by the wayside (but never disappear). And when you consistently win...you will develop venom anyway from everyone else who doesn't. Keep doing what you're doing LU and as far as posters...keep doing what you're doing but yes it is great if there is diversity of respectful opinion....because that also makes it interesting to talk about LU football.
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(09-21-2021 08:12 AM)NewTimes Wrote:  How to broaden the LU bbs fan base. That's a hard one. First, is to encourage a wider spectrum of thought, discussion, agreement and disagreement. As one who has posted here many times, I've been hounded by LU fans because I did not fall lockstep with the herd in my views. Just check out my ratings and see how one LU fan has repeatedly called me a troll and left negative rating after negative rating. Requests to the board mod, to reign the poster in and remove the neg ratings have produced no action, which ends up supporting the neg posters position. With the result being intense at times PMs between myself and the board mod, with me ultimately going elsewhere and basically abandoning the LU board.

Attacking posters who support LU, that have a different position forces a lack of diversity. And isn't diversity the key to expanding any interest. Stimulating dialogue benefits those that agree and disagree. This is one reason several LU supporters post very little here, including myself. We don't want the hassle of being attacked by posters, and not supported by board leaders. Anyone following LU on others boards knows this is the case, which is unfortunate.

(09-21-2021 10:26 AM)NewTimes Wrote:  There was no mod discussion. Only a statement of fact. No disparaging, threating, or uncivil remarks were made. A thicker skin and support for LU fans who bring expanded views would support all. I believe you do the best that you can as you are able.

And yes, I was along with you, we were the original board mods when the LU board began. My resignation was because actions by LU admins (Jr.) of unwise statements and the lack of wise leadership displayed was deplorable. I could not defend unconscious actions by Jr. Then afterwards, when posting those views here, not following the LU unified company line, offering a critical view, I was attacked by one specific LU poster who left consistent multiple neg ratings. I requested a review of the neg ratings. The mod review allowed the neg ratings, which was an endorsement that others could take the same action. I went elsewhere.

And this thread I thought was an opportunity to express a point where the site could be expanded. When I contacted the board owner, GT Swagger, and requested to start a LU site, it was to enjoy LU sports discussions with LU fans, and to banter with opposing team fans. Somehow this has gone off the rails for me and now visits and posts to this site are seldom. As prolific a poster as ArmyMike was, his non activity is not the reason for little activity and interest on the site.

If you allow this post to go through, it will be very interested to see the response from others. As is in most situations in life, somewhere between the two extremes is the truth.

I bolded some of your comments from your initial post for emphasis. Do you not see how your comments are critical of the moderation? Your quotes basically say that you were a victim of harassment and that the moderator(s) supported it so you left. That's not true and that's one reason why we don't discuss moderation in public.
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(09-21-2021 08:12 AM)NewTimes Wrote:  How to broaden the LU bbs fan base. That's a hard one. First, is to encourage a wider spectrum of thought, discussion, agreement and disagreement. As one who has posted here many times, I've been hounded by LU fans because I did not fall lockstep with the herd in my views. Just check out my ratings and see how one LU fan has repeatedly called me a troll and left negative rating after negative rating. Requests to the board mod, to reign the poster in and remove the neg ratings have produced no action, which ends up supporting the neg posters position. With the result being intense at times PMs between myself and the board mod, with me ultimately going elsewhere and basically abandoning the LU board.

Attacking posters who support LU, that have a different position forces a lack of diversity. And isn't diversity the key to expanding any interest. Stimulating dialogue benefits those that agree and disagree. This is one reason several LU supporters post very little here, including myself. We don't want the hassle of being attacked by posters, and not supported by board leaders. Anyone following LU on others boards knows this is the case, which is unfortunate.

(09-21-2021 10:26 AM)NewTimes Wrote:  There was no mod discussion. Only a statement of fact. No disparaging, threating, or uncivil remarks were made. A thicker skin and support for LU fans who bring expanded views would support all. I believe you do the best that you can as you are able.

And yes, I was along with you, we were the original board mods when the LU board began. My resignation was because actions by LU admins (Jr.) of unwise statements and the lack of wise leadership displayed was deplorable. I could not defend unconscious actions by Jr. Then afterwards, when posting those views here, not following the LU unified company line, offering a critical view, I was attacked by one specific LU poster who left consistent multiple neg ratings. I requested a review of the neg ratings. The mod review allowed the neg ratings, which was an endorsement that others could take the same action. I went elsewhere.

And this thread I thought was an opportunity to express a point where the site could be expanded. When I contacted the board owner, GT Swagger, and requested to start a LU site, it was to enjoy LU sports discussions with LU fans, and to banter with opposing team fans. Somehow this has gone off the rails for me and now visits and posts to this site are seldom. As prolific a poster as ArmyMike was, his non activity is not the reason for little activity and interest on the site.

If you allow this post to go through, it will be very interested to see the response from others. As is in most situations in life, somewhere between the two extremes is the truth.

I bolded some of your comments from your initial post for emphasis. Do you not see how your comments are critical of the moderation? Your quotes basically say that you were a victim of harassment and that the moderator(s) supported it so you left. That's not true and that's one reason why we don't discuss moderation in public.
I am not going to get into an ongoing dialogue with mod duties, responsibilities and police power. Let's do what this board is about, talking sports. Continuing to justify one's action, or non action, only diverts all posters from discussing LU sports. Conversations complimentary and critical. With so few posting now on the LU board, and with the upward spiral of LU's success and appeal, let's engage and solicit all views. And being a successful mod does require a thick skin and sometimes letting things play out rather than a quick interaction.
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There are plenty of LU fans on ASOR. Most of them I’d prefer not to embarrass the school anymore over here.
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