(09-20-2021 05:54 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  

(09-20-2021 05:51 PM)Cubanbull1 Wrote:  

(09-20-2021 05:48 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  

(09-20-2021 05:46 PM)Cubanbull1 Wrote:  

(09-20-2021 05:40 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  Can’t read it, pay wall.

Edit: just used a vpn and the article makes no mention of anything you claim.


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LOL. Oh really it doesn’t? Read the part about what happens to the Big East. I won’t copy paste on here. But is very clear

Ya it lacks details and leaves it a throway line. No mention either way about UCF or wether usf was involved.


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I see so you choose to ignore the part about the Pitt AD pushing to decline the ESPN offer while working with ACC, but you believe the part about USF being the one that blocked the tv deal by blocking UCF.
It is very clear from that article that it was Pitt who blocked that ESPN TV deal, it had nothing to do with USF or UCF that’s why that’s not even mentioned

I mean sure they could have lead the charge but they could have also been motivated by some of the demands of USF. You’re bleacher report article even mentioned that Pitt was open to other options besides leaving. What if one of those was one USF wasn’t comfortable with and so pitt said screw it and left.

Like I said we will never know the truth.


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Hey, tin foil hat guy. USF had nothing to do with turning down the contract. Do some research before spouting nonsense. Pitt, and Cuse were begging for an ACC invite. Your alternate facts are garbage.

(09-20-2021 06:14 PM)rtaylor Wrote:  

(09-20-2021 05:54 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  

(09-20-2021 05:51 PM)Cubanbull1 Wrote:  

(09-20-2021 05:48 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  

(09-20-2021 05:46 PM)Cubanbull1 Wrote:  LOL. Oh really it doesn’t? Read the part about what happens to the Big East. I won’t copy paste on here. But is very clear

Ya it lacks details and leaves it a throway line. No mention either way about UCF or wether usf was involved.


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I see so you choose to ignore the part about the Pitt AD pushing to decline the ESPN offer while working with ACC, but you believe the part about USF being the one that blocked the tv deal by blocking UCF.
It is very clear from that article that it was Pitt who blocked that ESPN TV deal, it had nothing to do with USF or UCF that’s why that’s not even mentioned

I mean sure they could have lead the charge but they could have also been motivated by some of the demands of USF. You’re bleacher report article even mentioned that Pitt was open to other options besides leaving. What if one of those was one USF wasn’t comfortable with and so pitt said screw it and left.

Like I said we will never know the truth.


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Hey, tin foil hat guy. USF had nothing to do with turning down the contract. Do some research before spouting nonsense. Pitt, and Cuse were begging for an ACC invite. Your alternate facts are garbage.

Im just going by what’s currently being reported by insides about the situation. Blame them not me I guess McMurphy is a tin foil hat guy? And why do you care one way or the other?


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(09-20-2021 06:16 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  

(09-20-2021 06:14 PM)rtaylor Wrote:  

(09-20-2021 05:54 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  

(09-20-2021 05:51 PM)Cubanbull1 Wrote:  

(09-20-2021 05:48 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  Ya it lacks details and leaves it a throway line. No mention either way about UCF or wether usf was involved.


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I see so you choose to ignore the part about the Pitt AD pushing to decline the ESPN offer while working with ACC, but you believe the part about USF being the one that blocked the tv deal by blocking UCF.
It is very clear from that article that it was Pitt who blocked that ESPN TV deal, it had nothing to do with USF or UCF that’s why that’s not even mentioned

I mean sure they could have lead the charge but they could have also been motivated by some of the demands of USF. You’re bleacher report article even mentioned that Pitt was open to other options besides leaving. What if one of those was one USF wasn’t comfortable with and so pitt said screw it and left.

Like I said we will never know the truth.


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Hey, tin foil hat guy. USF had nothing to do with turning down the contract. Do some research before spouting nonsense. Pitt, and Cuse were begging for an ACC invite. Your alternate facts are garbage.

Im just going by what’s currently being reported by insides about the situation. Blame them not me I guess McMurphy is a tin foil hat guy? And why do you care one way or the other?


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I could ask you the same question.

(09-20-2021 06:44 PM)rtaylor Wrote:  

(09-20-2021 06:16 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  

(09-20-2021 06:14 PM)rtaylor Wrote:  

(09-20-2021 05:54 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  

(09-20-2021 05:51 PM)Cubanbull1 Wrote:  I see so you choose to ignore the part about the Pitt AD pushing to decline the ESPN offer while working with ACC, but you believe the part about USF being the one that blocked the tv deal by blocking UCF.
It is very clear from that article that it was Pitt who blocked that ESPN TV deal, it had nothing to do with USF or UCF that’s why that’s not even mentioned

I mean sure they could have lead the charge but they could have also been motivated by some of the demands of USF. You’re bleacher report article even mentioned that Pitt was open to other options besides leaving. What if one of those was one USF wasn’t comfortable with and so pitt said screw it and left.

Like I said we will never know the truth.


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Hey, tin foil hat guy. USF had nothing to do with turning down the contract. Do some research before spouting nonsense. Pitt, and Cuse were begging for an ACC invite. Your alternate facts are garbage.

Im just going by what’s currently being reported by insides about the situation. Blame them not me I guess McMurphy is a tin foil hat guy? And why do you care one way or the other?


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I could ask you the same question.

I only care because UH doesn’t get into the big 12 if things went different.


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UCF-USF fans are always fun

(09-20-2021 06:16 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  

(09-20-2021 06:14 PM)rtaylor Wrote:  

(09-20-2021 05:54 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  

(09-20-2021 05:51 PM)Cubanbull1 Wrote:  

(09-20-2021 05:48 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  Ya it lacks details and leaves it a throway line. No mention either way about UCF or wether usf was involved.


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I see so you choose to ignore the part about the Pitt AD pushing to decline the ESPN offer while working with ACC, but you believe the part about USF being the one that blocked the tv deal by blocking UCF.
It is very clear from that article that it was Pitt who blocked that ESPN TV deal, it had nothing to do with USF or UCF that’s why that’s not even mentioned

I mean sure they could have lead the charge but they could have also been motivated by some of the demands of USF. You’re bleacher report article even mentioned that Pitt was open to other options besides leaving. What if one of those was one USF wasn’t comfortable with and so pitt said screw it and left.

Like I said we will never know the truth.


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Hey, tin foil hat guy. USF had nothing to do with turning down the contract. Do some research before spouting nonsense. Pitt, and Cuse were begging for an ACC invite. Your alternate facts are garbage.

Im just going by what’s currently being reported by insides about the situation. Blame them not me I guess McMurphy is a tin foil hat guy? And why do you care one way or the other?


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You do know McMurohy was fired from espn for making up sources and stealing other people’s work, right?
But sure, believe him and not the massive mound of evidence to the contrary.
Pitt and Cuse were in charge of contract negotiations. Not usf. This isn’t even difficult to research. Try this thing called google. It’s gonna tell ya all you need to know.

It seems unlikely that the AAC would make a decision on which schools to add based on whether or not they had a campus stadium.

CSU: Would be invited, regardless of where they play home FB games.

AF: Would be invited, regardless of where they play home FB games.

UAB: Would be invited, regardless of where they play home FB games.

SDSU: Would be invited, regardless of where they play home FB games.

BSU: Would be invited, regardless of where they play home FB games.

(09-20-2021 07:50 PM)CLTPirate Wrote:  UCF-USF fans are always fun

Some of their fans are so super cool… the rest act like your typical frat boy with a D average and the analytic ability of a goat.

You can feed them facts and they’ll crap out ignorant opinions like a machine.

(09-20-2021 03:07 PM)Fishpro10987 Wrote:  

(09-20-2021 01:52 PM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  

(09-20-2021 11:45 AM)vick mike Wrote:  Yes, an on campus stadium for Temple would be a huge plus for the program. It would improve recruiting and indicate the University’s commitment to football and athletics. It would improve student and alumni engagement with campus. A UCF type stadium would go a long way and be a less expensive option than steel, masonry and concrete.
Why hasn’t it happened?
1.Neighborhood and political resistance.
2. Small but loud anti-athletics students (stadium stompers)
3. Lack of institutional fortitude (see 1 & 2)
4. Local journalistic antagonism towards Temple football (many reporters believe Temple should stick to rowing and basketball, since football is covered by psu and the Eagles)
These are not insignificant obstacles. Additionally, Temples urban campus offers design and construction difficulties. However, Temple faced similar obstacles when they built the Liacoras Center for basketball. Maybe our new president, who among other accomplishments was an athlete at Stanford, will be a proponent.

Wow. If you re-wrote that post, and changed out Memphis for each instance of Temple, the post would be just as true. We are in the same boat. Exactly.

How far is Liberty Bowl (Fed Ex field) from your campus?

About 1.5 - 2mi

(09-20-2021 08:06 PM)mtmedlin Wrote:  

(09-20-2021 07:50 PM)CLTPirate Wrote:  UCF-USF fans are always fun

Some of their fans are so super cool… the rest act like your typical frat boy with a D average and the analytic ability of a goat.

You can feed them facts and they’ll crap out ignorant opinions like a machine.

Frat boys don't wear cargo shorts though.

(09-20-2021 10:02 PM)ncbeta Wrote:  

(09-20-2021 08:06 PM)mtmedlin Wrote:  

(09-20-2021 07:50 PM)CLTPirate Wrote:  UCF-USF fans are always fun

Some of their fans are so super cool… the rest act like your typical frat boy with a D average and the analytic ability of a goat.

You can feed them facts and they’ll crap out ignorant opinions like a machine.

Frat boys don't wear cargo shorts though.

Moved into construction and they are awesome

(09-20-2021 10:02 PM)ncbeta Wrote:  

(09-20-2021 08:06 PM)mtmedlin Wrote:  

(09-20-2021 07:50 PM)CLTPirate Wrote:  UCF-USF fans are always fun

Some of their fans are so super cool… the rest act like your typical frat boy with a D average and the analytic ability of a goat.

You can feed them facts and they’ll crap out ignorant opinions like a machine.

Frat boys don't wear cargo shorts though.

We’re in Florida, nearly everyone owns cargo shorts.

Hell, I own more flops than shoes.

It was Pitt that torpedoed the BE TV deal. Those of us that actually followed the BE back then remember. Pitt and Cuse then turned around and stabbed BE in back after turning down TV deal. USF had nothing to do with killing TV deal.

We were there witnessing every move when it actually happened unlike some of you.

Brett McMurphy has a major axe to grind with USF. He hates USF to this day and tries to belittle or downplay USF at every opportunity. Brett was a former USF beat writer who had a major beef with Jim Leavitt, and wrote the story that got Leavitt fired.

(09-20-2021 10:15 AM)swagsurfer11 Wrote:  The ticket to moving up!

https://www.underdogdynasty.com/2021/9/1...nXMRTffWSw

Haven't read the article but I agree about building on campus stadiums. I think USF should have and still should build their own on campus bounce house. Temple unfortunately doesn't have the room in their urban neighborhood to build their own.

(09-20-2021 09:24 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(09-20-2021 03:07 PM)Fishpro10987 Wrote:  

(09-20-2021 01:52 PM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  

(09-20-2021 11:45 AM)vick mike Wrote:  Yes, an on campus stadium for Temple would be a huge plus for the program. It would improve recruiting and indicate the University’s commitment to football and athletics. It would improve student and alumni engagement with campus. A UCF type stadium would go a long way and be a less expensive option than steel, masonry and concrete.
Why hasn’t it happened?
1.Neighborhood and political resistance.
2. Small but loud anti-athletics students (stadium stompers)
3. Lack of institutional fortitude (see 1 & 2)
4. Local journalistic antagonism towards Temple football (many reporters believe Temple should stick to rowing and basketball, since football is covered by psu and the Eagles)
These are not insignificant obstacles. Additionally, Temples urban campus offers design and construction difficulties. However, Temple faced similar obstacles when they built the Liacoras Center for basketball. Maybe our new president, who among other accomplishments was an athlete at Stanford, will be a proponent.

Wow. If you re-wrote that post, and changed out Memphis for each instance of Temple, the post would be just as true. We are in the same boat. Exactly.

How far is Liberty Bowl (Fed Ex field) from your campus?

About 1.5 - 2mi

According to Google Maps, from the Old Richardson Towers to the LB is 2.5 miles.
Not walkable for 95% of the student body, nor would they want to anyway.

And for the sake of clarity, It's not "FedEx field". As a matter of fact, the stadium naming rights belong to AutoZone, and the field is "Rex Dockery field". Now... FedEx Park! That's our baseball field on South Campus.

FedEx Forum, where we play basketball is way tha hell down on Beale Street, somewhere between 7 and 8 miles, depending on which route you choose.

(09-20-2021 10:59 PM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  It was Pitt that torpedoed the BE TV deal. Those of us that actually followed the BE back then remember. Pitt and Cuse then turned around and stabbed BE in back after turning down TV deal. USF had nothing to do with killing TV deal.

We were there witnessing every move when it actually happened unlike some of you.

Brett McMurphy has a major axe to grind with USF. He hates USF to this day and tries to belittle or downplay USF at every opportunity. Brett was a former USF beat writer who had a major beef with Jim Leavitt, and wrote the story that got Leavitt fired.

Just curious because I hear from USF fans alot - why does McMurphy have an axe to grind with USF? I know he was the first to report Leavitt's assault of one of his players which led to him getting fired. So I would think that Leavitt would have an axe to grind against McMurphy along with the USF fanbase. But why the other way around?

(09-21-2021 02:52 PM)RobUCF Wrote:  

(09-20-2021 10:59 PM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  It was Pitt that torpedoed the BE TV deal. Those of us that actually followed the BE back then remember. Pitt and Cuse then turned around and stabbed BE in back after turning down TV deal. USF had nothing to do with killing TV deal.

We were there witnessing every move when it actually happened unlike some of you.

Brett McMurphy has a major axe to grind with USF. He hates USF to this day and tries to belittle or downplay USF at every opportunity. Brett was a former USF beat writer who had a major beef with Jim Leavitt, and wrote the story that got Leavitt fired.

Just curious because I hear from USF fans alot - why does McMurphy have an axe to grind with USF? I know he was the first to report Leavitt's assault of one of his players which led to him getting fired. So I would think that Leavitt would have an axe to grind against McMurphy along with the USF fanbase. But why the other way around?

I liked Leavitt but he at times had an abrasive personality and got into it with Brett. I heard a rumor about Brett getting pretty mouthy and then USF limiting his access.
Our fans got tired of his constant negativity when he was our local paper guy and he dug his heels in. As a fanbase we roasted him and he roasted us. It was such a messed up scenario.

No matter what we did, Brett would t acknowledge the good. There’s other rumors about interactions with Brett but I don’t have any first hand accounts on them so I don’t spread it.

The man is toxic now. He went from being on ESPN to not even being able to get his old Tampa job back. He works for some network I’ve never heard of.

Personally, I’ve met Brett on two occasions. Both times he came across as condescending and as if he didn’t or shouldn’t be at the event. I’ve met so many reporters in the area and in Orlando. Guys like Torello and Bianchi, no matter what you think of their writing, both are cordial when you meet them.
Not Brett. 100% dick all the time.

(09-21-2021 05:31 AM)BigEastMike Wrote:  

(09-20-2021 10:15 AM)swagsurfer11 Wrote:  The ticket to moving up!

https://www.underdogdynasty.com/2021/9/1...nXMRTffWSw

Haven't read the article but I agree about building on campus stadiums. I think USF should have and still should build their own on campus bounce house. Temple unfortunately doesn't have the room in their urban neighborhood to build their own.

We could make it happen with some more support.

(09-20-2021 02:28 PM)mtmedlin Wrote:  We already are building a IPF before UCF ever did ...

WTF are you talking about?

UCF built the first IPF in the STATE and it opened in 2005 (just 9 years after UCF joined the Div I-A Independent ranks as planning/funding was done during UCF's last year in the MAC).

(09-20-2021 07:50 PM)CLTPirate Wrote:  UCF-USF fans are always fun

Yes, they hate hearing "I told you so".