(09-19-2021 05:28 PM)Frank the Tank Wrote:  

(09-19-2021 05:22 PM)panama Wrote:  

(09-19-2021 05:20 PM)Frank the Tank Wrote:  This is from Dennis Dodd’s AAC expansion story that referred to Aresco’s views of the AAC TV contract:

Quote:Sources also tell CBS Sports that ESPN could rework its media rights deal with the AAC at a lower price due to a membership composition clause in their contract.

Sources say the clause could be activated if the AAC lost UConn, Cincinnati, Houston and UCF. UConn left the AAC entirely in 2020, becoming an independent in football while joining the Big East for basketball and other sports.

AAC commissioner Mike Aresco is not worried about a reworking of the deal, persons close to those discussions tell CBS Sports. Aresco has been telling constituents that he hopes to keep the value of the conference's media rights payout equal to what it was before Cincinnati, Houston and UCF left for the Big 12. AAC schools are paid approximately $7 million annually as part of a deal signed in 2019 with ESPN.

I don’t have any bias against the AAC. However, I will fully admit to a bias against those that engage in constant puffery and overpromising, which is what Aresco has done on many issues.

Now, maybe Air Force and Colorado State end up in the AAC. I said earlier in this thread that’s plausible and there are reasons for at least Air Force to make that move regardless of the TV money. Adding Colorado-based schools is a reasonable all-sports expansion geographically, too (which still matters with the distances that are a simple reality in the West). That move would be better than any C-USA/Sun Belt options for the AAC. I think that’s all a positive development for the AAC considering their other options.

It’s simply that I don’t put any stock into what Aresco states at all. Like I’ve said, I know AAC fans seem to like the red meat and conference pumping that he throws out there (such as the P6 campaign), but to pretty much everyone else, he comes across as a used car salesman. That’s not to say that Aresco wouldn’t deserve credit if he can pull off poaching MWC schools - he would actually deserve a lot of credit there because of his *actions*. I actually want to see those actions, though.

Hating on Aresco is like having on Saban. You hate him because you wish he was YOUR coach/commisioner.

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LOL - nooooo. Greg Sankey or bringing Jim Delany back? Yes. Those that actually have power never need to *say* that they have it - they just *use* it.

You're a Illinois fan so I understand the pain and hate in your heart.

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(09-19-2021 03:35 PM)panama Wrote:  

(09-19-2021 10:16 AM)TheBigEastSucks Wrote:  

(09-19-2021 10:05 AM)bill dazzle Wrote:  

(09-19-2021 08:18 AM)Nameless Wrote:  

(09-18-2021 10:46 PM)Milwaukee Wrote:  Agree with the above, with one exception:

Navy and Wichita, combined add up to only 1 AAC FB/BB member.

It seems that the AAC wishes to add 4 new members, not 3, and they might need to add 4 to boost their ESPN revenue.

If BSU and SDSU don't switch, the question becomes, "who will"?

Another MWC school to bolster the AAC West, perhaps, or an Eastern school?

The leading MWC FB/BB options (win %), at present, may be Nevada & Utah St

Top eastern contenders: App St./VCU, Marshall, ULL, LTU, & Buffalo

btw, #14 Coastal (3-0) and UTSA (3-0) off to a strong start, and both have a P5 win under their belts.

Since Memphis may remain in the AAC for ≥3 more years, and because the AAC would probably to play a divisional schedule to cut travel costs:

AAC East:
1. Memphis
2. Temple
3. East Carolina
4. USF
5. UAB (TBD) (?)
6. Tulane or a new eastern member (TBD) (?)

AAC West:
1. SMU
2. Tulsa
3. Air Force (pending confirmation) (?)
4. Colorado State (pending confirmation) (?)
5. New western member or Tulane (TBD) (?)
6. Navy/Wichita (TBD) (?)

Serious question:

Did Jed make a new profile? Very similar posting/writing styles, lol

Milwaukee and Jed do seem to offer some similar posting qualities. But Milwaukee's style is more abbreviated and understated (no colors, for example).

I like Jed and hope that if he is Milwaukee ... he will stick to this new approach. And Milwaukee, if you're not Jed ... my bad.

We need to add full western wing to kill MWC.
Boise
SDSU
Air Force
CSU
Fresno state
Army
Then add Dayton basketball only. This gets you paid, kills MWC and is a solid league.

1) why do you want to kill a conference?

2) are you aware no college President thinks like that?

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1. Pirates pillage, plunder and give no quarter. Kind of an oxymoron question.
2. They will follow tv money and want to be with higher budget schools with better name recognition. East coast tv time will help money and recruiting.

Pac12 - "we are the conference of champions"

Frank- I don't not believe anything those PAC 12 car salesman says.. they won zero championships in football or basketball in ages. Because of that i do not believe anything their administration says, Any news that comes from them is rubbish

(09-19-2021 05:56 PM)TheBigEastSucks Wrote:  

(09-19-2021 03:35 PM)panama Wrote:  

(09-19-2021 10:16 AM)TheBigEastSucks Wrote:  

(09-19-2021 10:05 AM)bill dazzle Wrote:  

(09-19-2021 08:18 AM)Nameless Wrote:  Serious question:

Did Jed make a new profile? Very similar posting/writing styles, lol

Milwaukee and Jed do seem to offer some similar posting qualities. But Milwaukee's style is more abbreviated and understated (no colors, for example).

I like Jed and hope that if he is Milwaukee ... he will stick to this new approach. And Milwaukee, if you're not Jed ... my bad.

We need to add full western wing to kill MWC.
Boise
SDSU
Air Force
CSU
Fresno state
Army
Then add Dayton basketball only. This gets you paid, kills MWC and is a solid league.

1) why do you want to kill a conference?

2) are you aware no college President thinks like that?

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1. Pirates pillage, plunder and give no quarter. Kind of an oxymoron question.
2. They will follow tv money and want to be with higher budget schools with better name recognition. East coast tv time will help money and recruiting.

Wut

And

Wut the wut?


Lol

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(09-19-2021 05:56 PM)TheBigEastSucks Wrote:  

(09-19-2021 03:35 PM)panama Wrote:  

(09-19-2021 10:16 AM)TheBigEastSucks Wrote:  

(09-19-2021 10:05 AM)bill dazzle Wrote:  

(09-19-2021 08:18 AM)Nameless Wrote:  Serious question:

Did Jed make a new profile? Very similar posting/writing styles, lol

Milwaukee and Jed do seem to offer some similar posting qualities. But Milwaukee's style is more abbreviated and understated (no colors, for example).

I like Jed and hope that if he is Milwaukee ... he will stick to this new approach. And Milwaukee, if you're not Jed ... my bad.

We need to add full western wing to kill MWC.
Boise
SDSU
Air Force
CSU
Fresno state
Army
Then add Dayton basketball only. This gets you paid, kills MWC and is a solid league.

1) why do you want to kill a conference?

2) are you aware no college President thinks like that?

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1. Pirates pillage, plunder and give no quarter. Kind of an oxymoron question.
2. They will follow tv money and want to be with higher budget schools with better name recognition. East coast tv time will help money and recruiting.

Happy "International talk like a pirate day"

Seriously. Today. Google it.

Arghh me matey.

Heard small tidbit. Thought it was a good angle and smart to use.

One of the selling points to CSU and Air Force is that if Boise St doesn’t want to move, it’s a sign they are confident they’ll be in the Big 12 in 2024. Does CSU and AF really want to wait till that happens and watch as the MWC backfills with the likes of Utep, New Mexico State, Idaho… North Dakota…. OR they can come now and start establishing themselves in the American, their addition helps draw quality other teams, all while helping to maintain our current deal.

CSU and AF know they along with Boise and SDSU are at the top of the valuable pieces in the MWC.

Bottom line for me is that Aresco is playing with the hand he has been dealt, and I think he’s done a fine job. Nobody was going to get AAC schools to turn down invitations to leagues with bigger payouts, but he did set the remnants up for $30 million or more in exit fees, and he is apparently going to try to raid a conference that many consider our equal. If we get Boise State, it would be an impressive coup. Time will tell if that will happen, but at least we are swinging and not whining and pissing off our TV partner like Big 12 Bob.

(09-19-2021 05:20 PM)Frank the Tank Wrote:  This is from Dennis Dodd’s AAC expansion story that referred to Aresco’s views of the AAC TV contract:

Quote:Sources also tell CBS Sports that ESPN could rework its media rights deal with the AAC at a lower price due to a membership composition clause in their contract.

Sources say the clause could be activated if the AAC lost UConn, Cincinnati, Houston and UCF. UConn left the AAC entirely in 2020, becoming an independent in football while joining the Big East for basketball and other sports.

AAC commissioner Mike Aresco is not worried about a reworking of the deal, persons close to those discussions tell CBS Sports. Aresco has been telling constituents that he hopes to keep the value of the conference's media rights payout equal to what it was before Cincinnati, Houston and UCF left for the Big 12. AAC schools are paid approximately $7 million annually as part of a deal signed in 2019 with ESPN.

I don’t have any bias against the AAC. However, I will fully admit to a bias against those that engage in constant puffery and overpromising, which is what Aresco has done on many issues.

Now, maybe Air Force and Colorado State end up in the AAC. I said earlier in this thread that’s plausible and there are reasons for at least Air Force to make that move regardless of the TV money. Adding Colorado-based schools is a reasonable all-sports expansion geographically, too (which still matters with the distances that are a simple reality in the West). That move would be better than any C-USA/Sun Belt options for the AAC. I think that’s all a positive development for the AAC considering their other options.

It’s simply that I don’t put any stock into what Aresco states at all. Like I’ve said, I know AAC fans seem to like the red meat and conference pumping that he throws out there (such as the P6 campaign), but to pretty much everyone else, he comes across as a used car salesman. That’s not to say that Aresco wouldn’t deserve credit if he can pull off poaching MWC schools - he would actually deserve a lot of credit there because of his *actions*. I actually want to see those actions, though.

You have never said anything positive about the AAC, and you can say w by at by ever you want about Aresco, he said he was going to make the AAC as competitive as any conference, and putting all the P5 bias aside, he did exactly that.

Are you referring to P6? If so get over it, it has as much relevance as P5.

In my opinion you are welcomed here as long as you bring facts with you. This site for AAC fans, our opinions, and we have plenty of out own here to last a lifetime.

My "mama" used to tell me "if you cc ant say something nice, don't say anything at all".

(09-19-2021 06:49 PM)Chappy Wrote:  Bottom line for me is that Aresco is playing with the hand he has been dealt, and I think he’s done a fine job. Nobody was going to get AAC schools to turn down invitations to leagues with bigger payouts, but he did set the remnants up for $30 million or more in exit fees, and he is apparently going to try to raid a conference that many consider our equal. If we get Boise State, it would be an impressive coup. Time will tell if that will happen, but at least we are swinging and not whining and pissing off our TV partner like Big 12 Bob.

Agreed. It’s not like Aresco has this massive winning hand. We’re kinda the best of the degenerate rejects that the snooty overlords attempt to oppress. When ya got $7 million a year to offer and your competitor is double or more, what the hell was he to do?

If he pulls off getting Colorado State and Air Force, that alone is impressive as hell. It immediately makes me happier about being in this conference. If secures Army too, then he’s a mad genius. Armies viewership is higher than all AAC teams average, including the three leaving.

I almost don’t even care who the fourth is at that point.

This site is starting to smell like CNN. Wake me up when it's over.

Report: The AAC Is Targeting A Couple Of Notable Schools

https://thespun.com/mountain-west/boise-...-state-uab

(09-19-2021 05:20 PM)Frank the Tank Wrote:  This is from Dennis Dodd’s AAC expansion story that referred to Aresco’s views of the AAC TV contract:

Quote:Sources also tell CBS Sports that ESPN could rework its media rights deal with the AAC at a lower price due to a membership composition clause in their contract.

Sources say the clause could be activated if the AAC lost UConn, Cincinnati, Houston and UCF. UConn left the AAC entirely in 2020, becoming an independent in football while joining the Big East for basketball and other sports.

AAC commissioner Mike Aresco is not worried about a reworking of the deal, persons close to those discussions tell CBS Sports. Aresco has been telling constituents that he hopes to keep the value of the conference's media rights payout equal to what it was before Cincinnati, Houston and UCF left for the Big 12. AAC schools are paid approximately $7 million annually as part of a deal signed in 2019 with ESPN.

I don’t have any bias against the AAC. However, I will fully admit to a bias against those that engage in constant puffery and overpromising, which is what Aresco has done on many issues.

Now, maybe Air Force and Colorado State end up in the AAC. I said earlier in this thread that’s plausible and there are reasons for at least Air Force to make that move regardless of the TV money. Adding Colorado-based schools is a reasonable all-sports expansion geographically, too (which still matters with the distances that are a simple reality in the West). That move would be better than any C-USA/Sun Belt options for the AAC. I think that’s all a positive development for the AAC considering their other options.

It’s simply that I don’t put any stock into what Aresco states at all. Like I’ve said, I know AAC fans seem to like the red meat and conference pumping that he throws out there (such as the P6 campaign), but to pretty much everyone else, he comes across as a used car salesman. That’s not to say that Aresco wouldn’t deserve credit if he can pull off poaching MWC schools - he would actually deserve a lot of credit there because of his *actions*. I actually want to see those actions, though.

As for the bold look in the mirror chief. Aresco is a professional. You are a message board poster and random Tweeter. I’m not especially a fan of Aresco’s style but seriously Frances, lighten up and look in the mirror.

(09-19-2021 07:32 PM)LostInSpace Wrote:  

(09-19-2021 05:20 PM)Frank the Tank Wrote:  This is from Dennis Dodd’s AAC expansion story that referred to Aresco’s views of the AAC TV contract:

Quote:Sources also tell CBS Sports that ESPN could rework its media rights deal with the AAC at a lower price due to a membership composition clause in their contract.

Sources say the clause could be activated if the AAC lost UConn, Cincinnati, Houston and UCF. UConn left the AAC entirely in 2020, becoming an independent in football while joining the Big East for basketball and other sports.

AAC commissioner Mike Aresco is not worried about a reworking of the deal, persons close to those discussions tell CBS Sports. Aresco has been telling constituents that he hopes to keep the value of the conference's media rights payout equal to what it was before Cincinnati, Houston and UCF left for the Big 12. AAC schools are paid approximately $7 million annually as part of a deal signed in 2019 with ESPN.

I don’t have any bias against the AAC. However, I will fully admit to a bias against those that engage in constant puffery and overpromising, which is what Aresco has done on many issues.

Now, maybe Air Force and Colorado State end up in the AAC. I said earlier in this thread that’s plausible and there are reasons for at least Air Force to make that move regardless of the TV money. Adding Colorado-based schools is a reasonable all-sports expansion geographically, too (which still matters with the distances that are a simple reality in the West). That move would be better than any C-USA/Sun Belt options for the AAC. I think that’s all a positive development for the AAC considering their other options.

It’s simply that I don’t put any stock into what Aresco states at all. Like I’ve said, I know AAC fans seem to like the red meat and conference pumping that he throws out there (such as the P6 campaign), but to pretty much everyone else, he comes across as a used car salesman. That’s not to say that Aresco wouldn’t deserve credit if he can pull off poaching MWC schools - he would actually deserve a lot of credit there because of his *actions*. I actually want to see those actions, though.

As for the bold look in the mirror chief. Aresco is a professional. You are a message board poster and random Tweeter. I’m not especially a fan of Aresco’s style but seriously Frances, lighten up and look in the mirror.

He's also an Illinois fan.

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(09-19-2021 05:20 PM)Frank the Tank Wrote:  This is from Dennis Dodd’s AAC expansion story that referred to Aresco’s views of the AAC TV contract:

Quote:Sources also tell CBS Sports that ESPN could rework its media rights deal with the AAC at a lower price due to a membership composition clause in their contract.

Sources say the clause could be activated if the AAC lost UConn, Cincinnati, Houston and UCF. UConn left the AAC entirely in 2020, becoming an independent in football while joining the Big East for basketball and other sports.

AAC commissioner Mike Aresco is not worried about a reworking of the deal, persons close to those discussions tell CBS Sports. Aresco has been telling constituents that he hopes to keep the value of the conference's media rights payout equal to what it was before Cincinnati, Houston and UCF left for the Big 12. AAC schools are paid approximately $7 million annually as part of a deal signed in 2019 with ESPN.

I don’t have any bias against the AAC. However, I will fully admit to a bias against those that engage in constant puffery and overpromising, which is what Aresco has done on many issues.

Now, maybe Air Force and Colorado State end up in the AAC. I said earlier in this thread that’s plausible and there are reasons for at least Air Force to make that move regardless of the TV money. Adding Colorado-based schools is a reasonable all-sports expansion geographically, too (which still matters with the distances that are a simple reality in the West). That move would be better than any C-USA/Sun Belt options for the AAC. I think that’s all a positive development for the AAC considering their other options.

It’s simply that I don’t put any stock into what Aresco states at all. Like I’ve said, I know AAC fans seem to like the red meat and conference pumping that he throws out there (such as the P6 campaign), but to pretty much everyone else, he comes across as a used car salesman. That’s not to say that Aresco wouldn’t deserve credit if he can pull off poaching MWC schools - he would actually deserve a lot of credit there because of his *actions*. I actually want to see those actions, though.

What's he actually saying here that's got you buttsore? He dared say he hopes to keep the deal the same or close?

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(09-19-2021 07:10 PM)GoOwls111 Wrote:  Report: The AAC Is Targeting A Couple Of Notable Schools

https://thespun.com/mountain-west/boise-...-state-uab

That's an echo of Dodd's story. It's dated the 16th. Same teams. The article with the quotes from Thompson that (not from a thompson quote) indicate that AFA and CSU are interested but Boise and SDSU might hold tight, is the newest "news" on the matter.