(09-16-2021 10:51 PM)Reverend Wrote:  

(09-16-2021 09:25 PM)Ned Low Wrote:  

(09-16-2021 08:43 PM)Reverend Wrote:  MWC teams told Aresco no a few days ago. Report will come out tomorrow San Diego newspaper has already leaked it like they always do.

Source? I’m not saying your wrong but would like some clarification.

Sure. We both have the same source I believe. If you look on the MWC board. Everything I've said would happen has within a 24 to 48 hour period. Of course a lot of guys don't like me because their homer schools gets looked down upon so they soon the narrative. Plus I did go through a phase where is troll them to piss them off. But this is correct.
But, on Monday Aresco, ESPN, and a few others including MWC teams are having a call ESPN could be trying to make a play. But realistically I don't see how an extra $1 million or two could help. Plus the AAC is in a 12 year deal which I knew would bite them in the ass eventually. The MWC contract is up in a few years. This is a SDSU beat writer. He knows his stuff.
https://twitter.com/sdutzeigler/status/1...19305?s=19

Nothing you posted there says that "they said no"... Sounds like negotiations are on going and may or may not close the deal... But they are engaged.

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(09-16-2021 07:11 PM)pesik Wrote:  also aresco has made a note that he has never talked to anyone who didn't approach first.. if that is still true, that is potential evidence

Are you an AAC conference fan or a big 12 fan?
If I made it to the big 12 I wouldn’t be obsessed with the left behinds
I don’t get you Coog fans who don’t want to be in the big 12????

(09-16-2021 08:48 PM)Poseidon Wrote:  I think adding six would be best to make up for the three we lost. Even if we drop from 7 to 6 mil it will be emougj to convine MW teams to come if we are pretty much guranteed the acces bowl slot or playoff spot as long as the confencre champ doesnt lose more that one game. It would also serve as a buffer if the big 12 came back for two more after ou/ut leave or if theyblose any.

Th e six in prefferential order would be.

Boise
Air Force
SDSU
FAU or UAB then or Marshall
CSU
a texas school

I am going to go with your numbers for ESPN. Each of the 11 members of the AAC make 7 million a year for a total of 77 million to the AAC. The AAC adds 6 new members to replace the 3 that are leaving for a total on 14 members. When the 6 new members join the AAC for each of the 14 members of the conference to still make 7 million a year, ESPN would have to increase the payout to the AAC by 21 million a year which will not happen. The best that I feel will happen is that payout remains at 77 million a year which will drop the per teams yearly payout to 5.5 million.

(09-16-2021 10:16 PM)Poseidon Wrote:  

(09-16-2021 09:46 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  

(09-16-2021 09:39 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  

(09-16-2021 09:36 PM)Poseidon Wrote:  

(09-16-2021 08:43 PM)Reverend Wrote:  MWC teams told Aresco no a few days ago. Report will come out tomorrow San Diego newspaper has already leaked it like they always do.

No problem.
Bosie would have been nice.

Now we add UAB, UTSA, FAU, Marshall or CCU and call it a day.

We would effectively take the two best CUSA schools in big cities. Keep ground in Texas, and at a esternish school who wants to win.

The only real loss is Boise.

Good to know if a 9 tells you no you’d settle for a 2.

It's getting close to last call.
Need to be re-assessing the 6s and the 4s, but I hope not to bring home a 2.

FAU has won 2/3 last CISA titles and a florida team. They are at least a 6 maybe 7.

UTSA is a 4 or 5, but they are a Texas team in a big city. AAC loves it some texas and loves it some big city.

As you said UAB is a 6.

I wish USAFA would just bit ethe bullet and join. They would be a a solid 7.

Those adds wouldn't make up for the losses but short time Tulane, USF, or SMU will fill the Houston/UCF voids. Memphis will remain a main player and ECU shouldn't be down forever. Navy will be Navy.

Ga. State is actually very interesting, their problem is they are like UCF circa 2000 not 2010. They are 3 or 4 now butncould be a wise investment, or a bust.

Any school who’s basketball program makes ECUs look good is not a 6 or a 7.

(09-16-2021 11:05 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  

(09-16-2021 10:16 PM)Poseidon Wrote:  

(09-16-2021 09:46 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  

(09-16-2021 09:39 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  

(09-16-2021 09:36 PM)Poseidon Wrote:  No problem.
Bosie would have been nice.

Now we add UAB, UTSA, FAU, Marshall or CCU and call it a day.

We would effectively take the two best CUSA schools in big cities. Keep ground in Texas, and at a esternish school who wants to win.

The only real loss is Boise.

Good to know if a 9 tells you no you’d settle for a 2.

It's getting close to last call.
Need to be re-assessing the 6s and the 4s, but I hope not to bring home a 2.

FAU has won 2/3 last CISA titles and a florida team. They are at least a 6 maybe 7.

UTSA is a 4 or 5, but they are a Texas team in a big city. AAC loves it some texas and loves it some big city.

As you said UAB is a 6.

I wish USAFA would just bit ethe bullet and join. They would be a a solid 7.

Those adds wouldn't make up for the losses but short time Tulane, USF, or SMU will fill the Houston/UCF voids. Memphis will remain a main player and ECU shouldn't be down forever. Navy will be Navy.

Ga. State is actually very interesting, their problem is they are like UCF circa 2000 not 2010. They are 3 or 4 now butncould be a wise investment, or a bust.

Any school who’s basketball program makes ECUs look good is not a 6 or a 7.

Well played. I chuckled.

(09-16-2021 10:56 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  

(09-16-2021 07:11 PM)pesik Wrote:  also aresco has made a note that he has never talked to anyone who didn't approach first.. if that is still true, that is potential evidence

Are you an AAC conference fan or a big 12 fan?
If I made it to the big 12 I wouldn’t be obsessed with the left behinds
I don’t get you Coog fans who don’t want to be in the big 12????

we do want to be in te big 12 .. there are rutgers, usc,boston college fans all here posting about expansion ..
there is obviously an interest in expansion regardless of conference

why wouldn't Houston, cincy fans who are deeply tied to the conference not be interested

here is the a popular BAYLOR youtube show talking baout aac expansion its topic people care about




i GUARANTEE YOU if ecu had been picked up you ecu fans would still be in the aac expansion talks.

whats odds is the ecu fans who want houston fans to be bitter towards to aac.... you want us to act like w are too good for the aac and unto better things,,, we arent UConn fans. we left because an opportunity came, not from trying to push out

(09-16-2021 10:58 PM)ValleyBoy Wrote:  

(09-16-2021 08:48 PM)Poseidon Wrote:  I think adding six would be best to make up for the three we lost. Even if we drop from 7 to 6 mil it will be emougj to convine MW teams to come if we are pretty much guranteed the acces bowl slot or playoff spot as long as the confencre champ doesnt lose more that one game. It would also serve as a buffer if the big 12 came back for two more after ou/ut leave or if theyblose any.

Th e six in prefferential order would be.

Boise
Air Force
SDSU
FAU or UAB then or Marshall
CSU
a texas school

I am going to go with your numbers for ESPN. Each of the 11 members of the AAC make 7 million a year for a total of 77 million to the AAC. The AAC adds 6 new members to replace the 3 that are leaving for a total on 14 members. When the 6 new members join the AAC for each of the 14 members of the conference to still make 7 million a year, ESPN would have to increase the payout to the AAC by 21 million a year which will not happen. The best that I feel will happen is that payout remains at 77 million a year which will drop the per teams yearly payout to 5.5 million.

Which meeting with ESPN were you in?

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(09-16-2021 11:41 PM)Stickboy46 Wrote:  

(09-16-2021 10:58 PM)ValleyBoy Wrote:  

(09-16-2021 08:48 PM)Poseidon Wrote:  I think adding six would be best to make up for the three we lost. Even if we drop from 7 to 6 mil it will be emougj to convine MW teams to come if we are pretty much guranteed the acces bowl slot or playoff spot as long as the confencre champ doesnt lose more that one game. It would also serve as a buffer if the big 12 came back for two more after ou/ut leave or if theyblose any.

Th e six in prefferential order would be.

Boise
Air Force
SDSU
FAU or UAB then or Marshall
CSU
a texas school

I am going to go with your numbers for ESPN. Each of the 11 members of the AAC make 7 million a year for a total of 77 million to the AAC. The AAC adds 6 new members to replace the 3 that are leaving for a total on 14 members. When the 6 new members join the AAC for each of the 14 members of the conference to still make 7 million a year, ESPN would have to increase the payout to the AAC by 21 million a year which will not happen. The best that I feel will happen is that payout remains at 77 million a year which will drop the per teams yearly payout to 5.5 million.

Which meeting with ESPN were you in?

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No ESPN meeting need to know that the 6 conference members listed by Poseidon are worth an additional 21 million a year from ESPN.

Anyone who thinks this line up will increase the AAC payout by 21 million a year is living in a dream world.

(09-17-2021 12:16 AM)ValleyBoy Wrote:  

(09-16-2021 11:41 PM)Stickboy46 Wrote:  

(09-16-2021 10:58 PM)ValleyBoy Wrote:  

(09-16-2021 08:48 PM)Poseidon Wrote:  I think adding six would be best to make up for the three we lost. Even if we drop from 7 to 6 mil it will be emougj to convine MW teams to come if we are pretty much guranteed the acces bowl slot or playoff spot as long as the confencre champ doesnt lose more that one game. It would also serve as a buffer if the big 12 came back for two more after ou/ut leave or if theyblose any.

Th e six in prefferential order would be.

Boise
Air Force
SDSU
FAU or UAB then or Marshall
CSU
a texas school

I am going to go with your numbers for ESPN. Each of the 11 members of the AAC make 7 million a year for a total of 77 million to the AAC. The AAC adds 6 new members to replace the 3 that are leaving for a total on 14 members. When the 6 new members join the AAC for each of the 14 members of the conference to still make 7 million a year, ESPN would have to increase the payout to the AAC by 21 million a year which will not happen. The best that I feel will happen is that payout remains at 77 million a year which will drop the per teams yearly payout to 5.5 million.

Which meeting with ESPN were you in?

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No ESPN meeting need to know that the 6 conference members listed by Poseidon are worth an additional 21 million a year from ESPN.

Anyone who thinks this line up will increase the AAC payout by 21 million a year is living in a dream world.

Ah... So your very definitive "will not happen" was you just pulling it out of your ass. Good to know

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(09-16-2021 09:45 PM)Monarch Pride Wrote:  

(09-16-2021 06:59 PM)GaSoEagle Wrote:  Just wondering about the odds of that happening

No, why would they. The American is like a caged rat and their moves are desperate at this point. The arrogance that they can pluck teams they want from any G5 is absurd. I’m going to thoroughly enjoy watching this play out. The American has been around for how many years? 8?

Yes. Not long at all----and yet----that 8 years would be would be longer than the ENTIRE FBS history of Old Dominion.

(09-17-2021 12:17 AM)Stickboy46 Wrote:  

(09-17-2021 12:16 AM)ValleyBoy Wrote:  

(09-16-2021 11:41 PM)Stickboy46 Wrote:  

(09-16-2021 10:58 PM)ValleyBoy Wrote:  

(09-16-2021 08:48 PM)Poseidon Wrote:  I think adding six would be best to make up for the three we lost. Even if we drop from 7 to 6 mil it will be emougj to convine MW teams to come if we are pretty much guranteed the acces bowl slot or playoff spot as long as the confencre champ doesnt lose more that one game. It would also serve as a buffer if the big 12 came back for two more after ou/ut leave or if theyblose any.

Th e six in prefferential order would be.

Boise
Air Force
SDSU
FAU or UAB then or Marshall
CSU
a texas school

I am going to go with your numbers for ESPN. Each of the 11 members of the AAC make 7 million a year for a total of 77 million to the AAC. The AAC adds 6 new members to replace the 3 that are leaving for a total on 14 members. When the 6 new members join the AAC for each of the 14 members of the conference to still make 7 million a year, ESPN would have to increase the payout to the AAC by 21 million a year which will not happen. The best that I feel will happen is that payout remains at 77 million a year which will drop the per teams yearly payout to 5.5 million.

Which meeting with ESPN were you in?

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No ESPN meeting need to know that the 6 conference members listed by Poseidon are worth an additional 21 million a year from ESPN.

Anyone who thinks this line up will increase the AAC payout by 21 million a year is living in a dream world.

Ah... So your very definitive "will not happen" was you just pulling it out of your ass. Good to know

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No but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night unlike the Motel 6 you were at last night.

(09-16-2021 10:58 PM)ValleyBoy Wrote:  

(09-16-2021 08:48 PM)Poseidon Wrote:  I think adding six would be best to make up for the three we lost. Even if we drop from 7 to 6 mil it will be emougj to convine MW teams to come if we are pretty much guranteed the acces bowl slot or playoff spot as long as the confencre champ doesnt lose more that one game. It would also serve as a buffer if the big 12 came back for two more after ou/ut leave or if theyblose any.

Th e six in prefferential order would be.

Boise
Air Force
SDSU
FAU or UAB then or Marshall
CSU
a texas school

I am going to go with your numbers for ESPN. Each of the 11 members of the AAC make 7 million a year for a total of 77 million to the AAC. The AAC adds 6 new members to replace the 3 that are leaving for a total on 14 members. When the 6 new members join the AAC for each of the 14 members of the conference to still make 7 million a year, ESPN would have to increase the payout to the AAC by 21 million a year which will not happen. The best that I feel will happen is that payout remains at 77 million a year which will drop the per teams yearly payout to 5.5 million.

We already know ESPN was willing to pay the AAC substantially more if they got the Big12 leftovers. We also know that ESPN is relatively light on west coast inventory. They lost all of their MW inventory when the MW signed with FOX/CBSSN. It wouldnt suprise me at all if ESPN was willing to ante up 21 million to pick up the top 4 MW schools.

(09-16-2021 07:05 PM)pesik Wrote:  the mwc news just came out today so nothng yet in accordance to this report, by the end of the week mwc teams will start giving statements and we'll know...
they'll either be "we arent going to the aac" or "we are going to do whats in the best interest for our institution" which is code that there is a real possibility

if you are looking for past circumstantial evidence

1) boise tried to join the aac 6 months ago
2) boise sued the mwc last year
3) the mwc wants to get rid of the sweetheart deal boise has, which is the only reason Boise chose the mwc
3) sdsu never wanted to leave the aac, and are still partial members of the aac
4) air force has said numerous times that it will one day play in the same conference as the other academies

5) CSU inquired about our empty slot after UCONN left.

(09-17-2021 12:35 AM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(09-16-2021 10:58 PM)ValleyBoy Wrote:  

(09-16-2021 08:48 PM)Poseidon Wrote:  I think adding six would be best to make up for the three we lost. Even if we drop from 7 to 6 mil it will be emougj to convine MW teams to come if we are pretty much guranteed the acces bowl slot or playoff spot as long as the confencre champ doesnt lose more that one game. It would also serve as a buffer if the big 12 came back for two more after ou/ut leave or if theyblose any.

Th e six in prefferential order would be.

Boise
Air Force
SDSU
FAU or UAB then or Marshall
CSU
a texas school

I am going to go with your numbers for ESPN. Each of the 11 members of the AAC make 7 million a year for a total of 77 million to the AAC. The AAC adds 6 new members to replace the 3 that are leaving for a total on 14 members. When the 6 new members join the AAC for each of the 14 members of the conference to still make 7 million a year, ESPN would have to increase the payout to the AAC by 21 million a year which will not happen. The best that I feel will happen is that payout remains at 77 million a year which will drop the per teams yearly payout to 5.5 million.

We already know ESPN was willing to pay the AAC substantially more if they got the Big12 leftovers. We also know that ESPN is relatively light on west coast inventory. They lost all of their MW inventory when the MW signed with FOX/CBSSN. It wouldnt suprise me at all if ESPN was willing to ante up 21 million to pick up the top 4 MW schools.

Boise, Air Force, SDSU, and Colorado State are just going to love having to play all there home games with start times of 11:00 or later EST just to fill the west coast inventory ESPN lost. You do know that might be the reason ESPN lost that inventory.

(09-16-2021 10:58 PM)ValleyBoy Wrote:  

(09-16-2021 08:48 PM)Poseidon Wrote:  I think adding six would be best to make up for the three we lost. Even if we drop from 7 to 6 mil it will be emougj to convine MW teams to come if we are pretty much guranteed the acces bowl slot or playoff spot as long as the confencre champ doesnt lose more that one game. It would also serve as a buffer if the big 12 came back for two more after ou/ut leave or if theyblose any.

Th e six in prefferential order would be.

Boise
Air Force
SDSU
FAU or UAB then or Marshall
CSU
a texas school

I am going to go with your numbers for ESPN. Each of the 11 members of the AAC make 7 million a year for a total of 77 million to the AAC. The AAC adds 6 new members to replace the 3 that are leaving for a total on 14 members. When the 6 new members join the AAC for each of the 14 members of the conference to still make 7 million a year, ESPN would have to increase the payout to the AAC by 21 million a year which will not happen. The best that I feel will happen is that payout remains at 77 million a year which will drop the per teams yearly payout to 5.5 million.

21m dollars is a drop in the bucket for the additional brands and inventory that would be added. I could argue the addition of the proposed MW teams improve the profile of the conference more so than UCF, Houston and UC did.

Man, this would be a monstrosity. Can you imagine winter doldrums and flying winter/spring sports from San Diego to Philli? Dear God.

But if Aresco can land em’ more power to em’. Hoping it’s just UAB Rice and they stop at 10. Payout per team should be maybe 1-3 million less than what it is now, which isn’t bad.

(09-16-2021 10:54 PM)Stickboy46 Wrote:  

(09-16-2021 10:51 PM)Reverend Wrote:  

(09-16-2021 09:25 PM)Ned Low Wrote:  

(09-16-2021 08:43 PM)Reverend Wrote:  MWC teams told Aresco no a few days ago. Report will come out tomorrow San Diego newspaper has already leaked it like they always do.

Source? I’m not saying your wrong but would like some clarification.

Sure. We both have the same source I believe. If you look on the MWC board. Everything I've said would happen has within a 24 to 48 hour period. Of course a lot of guys don't like me because their homer schools gets looked down upon so they soon the narrative. Plus I did go through a phase where is troll them to piss them off. But this is correct.
But, on Monday Aresco, ESPN, and a few others including MWC teams are having a call ESPN could be trying to make a play. But realistically I don't see how an extra $1 million or two could help. Plus the AAC is in a 12 year deal which I knew would bite them in the ass eventually. The MWC contract is up in a few years. This is a SDSU beat writer. He knows his stuff.
https://twitter.com/sdutzeigler/status/1...19305?s=19

Nothing you posted there says that "they said no"... Sounds like negotiations are on going and may or may not close the deal... But they are engaged.

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You're in the biggest state of delusion on this forum.

(09-17-2021 05:44 AM)RUScarlets Wrote:  Man, this would be a monstrosity. Can you imagine winter doldrums and flying winter/spring sports from San Diego to Philli? Dear God.

But if Aresco can land em’ more power to em’. Hoping it’s just UAB Rice and they stop at 10. Payout per team should be maybe 1-3 million less than what it is now, which isn’t bad.

Is San Diego to Philly that much more travel than Piscataway to Lincoln? Also, we get to go to San Diego, not Lincoln.

(09-17-2021 12:31 AM)ValleyBoy Wrote:  

(09-17-2021 12:17 AM)Stickboy46 Wrote:  

(09-17-2021 12:16 AM)ValleyBoy Wrote:  

(09-16-2021 11:41 PM)Stickboy46 Wrote:  

(09-16-2021 10:58 PM)ValleyBoy Wrote:  I am going to go with your numbers for ESPN. Each of the 11 members of the AAC make 7 million a year for a total of 77 million to the AAC. The AAC adds 6 new members to replace the 3 that are leaving for a total on 14 members. When the 6 new members join the AAC for each of the 14 members of the conference to still make 7 million a year, ESPN would have to increase the payout to the AAC by 21 million a year which will not happen. The best that I feel will happen is that payout remains at 77 million a year which will drop the per teams yearly payout to 5.5 million.

Which meeting with ESPN were you in?

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No ESPN meeting need to know that the 6 conference members listed by Poseidon are worth an additional 21 million a year from ESPN.

Anyone who thinks this line up will increase the AAC payout by 21 million a year is living in a dream world.

Ah... So your very definitive "will not happen" was you just pulling it out of your ass. Good to know

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No but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night unlike the Motel 6 you were at last night.

Trying to be funny but the truth of the matter is … ESPN has a plan to control college athletics and we can agree on that… the other fact is AAC is an ESPN property. ESPN also can addd more markets to their digital platform and grow the AAC footprint … its worth 21 million if it means picking up new markets (which they don’t have) completely and building 4 time zones… you think 21 million will stop that? Also understand many more movements are happening .. PAC12, BIG, SEC, and ACC… will make more moves… buckle up Troy fan SBC will get to pick up USM and Marshal when it’s all over Congrats …

(09-17-2021 05:44 AM)RUScarlets Wrote:  Man, this would be a monstrosity. Can you imagine winter doldrums and flying winter/spring sports from San Diego to Philli? Dear God.

But if Aresco can land em’ more power to em’. Hoping it’s just UAB Rice and they stop at 10. Payout per team should be maybe 1-3 million less than what it is now, which isn’t bad.

Where the actual F*** is “Philli”? Seriously, from a Rutgers fan? Guess you aren’t from Jersey.