(09-15-2021 04:03 PM)ballantyneapp Wrote:  

(09-15-2021 02:06 PM)BirdofParadise Wrote:  

(09-15-2021 01:30 PM)ballantyneapp Wrote:  

(09-15-2021 01:22 PM)Dirty Myrtle Wrote:  

(09-15-2021 01:11 PM)iStoopify Wrote:  Coastal isn’t going. Your football program to date has not proven last year was not a fluke and that you did not catch lightning in a bottle with your coach. This is not a dig. What happens when chadwell leaves? App has sustained through 3 consecutive years with a coaching change. A lot of programs would be dead right now.

Not sure why you think you know what we will do more than I do, but I know for a fact that behind the scenes there’s already talk about making a campaign for joining the AAC. Where a school goes has a lot more to do with things other than just football or where a program happens to be at the present moment. Coastal is growing. The plan is to expand enrollment from current 11k to 16k-17k. As I already said, Myrtle Beach is one of the fastest growing areas in the US. Our golf program produced Dustin Johnson. Our baseball program won a National Championship. Our basketball program has made it to numerous NCAA tournaments and the soccer team is ranked pretty much every year. And then there’s the multi-billionaire donor….again, it’s not speculation….I PROMISE you that if App State leaves, Coastal leaves too. You can take that to the bank and It has little to do with just one good year in football.

Where would Coastal go if the AAC is not an option? The CUSA? Probably without UAB and Marshall if they are adding App. Apps biggest drawback is that we are a regional university. Coastal is a MUCH lower ranked regional Uni. Nobody gives a **** about college golf and soccer, almost nobody cares about college baseball. Even without App the SBC east would be better than CUSA -marshall and UAB. It just doesn't make any sense.

That's one of the worst takes in any thread.

i know that is anathema to many on this board, but baseball is a crappy boring sport.

So is soccer. Who wants to watch a bunch of guys run around and bounce a ball off their heads. Women maybe but guys?

(09-15-2021 04:03 PM)ballantyneapp Wrote:  

(09-15-2021 02:06 PM)BirdofParadise Wrote:  

(09-15-2021 01:30 PM)ballantyneapp Wrote:  

(09-15-2021 01:22 PM)Dirty Myrtle Wrote:  

(09-15-2021 01:11 PM)iStoopify Wrote:  Coastal isn’t going. Your football program to date has not proven last year was not a fluke and that you did not catch lightning in a bottle with your coach. This is not a dig. What happens when chadwell leaves? App has sustained through 3 consecutive years with a coaching change. A lot of programs would be dead right now.

Not sure why you think you know what we will do more than I do, but I know for a fact that behind the scenes there’s already talk about making a campaign for joining the AAC. Where a school goes has a lot more to do with things other than just football or where a program happens to be at the present moment. Coastal is growing. The plan is to expand enrollment from current 11k to 16k-17k. As I already said, Myrtle Beach is one of the fastest growing areas in the US. Our golf program produced Dustin Johnson. Our baseball program won a National Championship. Our basketball program has made it to numerous NCAA tournaments and the soccer team is ranked pretty much every year. And then there’s the multi-billionaire donor….again, it’s not speculation….I PROMISE you that if App State leaves, Coastal leaves too. You can take that to the bank and It has little to do with just one good year in football.

Where would Coastal go if the AAC is not an option? The CUSA? Probably without UAB and Marshall if they are adding App. Apps biggest drawback is that we are a regional university. Coastal is a MUCH lower ranked regional Uni. Nobody gives a **** about college golf and soccer, almost nobody cares about college baseball. Even without App the SBC east would be better than CUSA -marshall and UAB. It just doesn't make any sense.

That's one of the worst takes in any thread.

i know that is anathema to many on this board, but baseball is a crappy boring sport.

If you're not competitive, yes. But if you make it a revenue generator, make it family friendly and give people an experience instead of being a (traditionally not good) baseball team, it's great.

Louisiana generates more revenue out of baseball than men's basketball.

I'm not trying to knock Coastal. I LOVE Myrtle Beach and will be buying a home there soon. I also love Coastal, have a lot of friends who went there, and a few who even played there.

BUT

There is no chance at all that Coastal ends up in the AAC UNLESS....Memphis leaves, SMU Tulsa go to the MWC and it leaves the conference with

ECU
Temple
USF
Tulane

And they all decide to build that dream Eastern based G5 conference from the shell of the AAC. Even then, I don't see any way in the world Coastal gets invited, but there would be a small chance under this extreme scenario.

(09-15-2021 04:01 PM)Fanof49ASU Wrote:  I can’t see the interest they’d have in App. I can’t see Wichita St staying for their basketball.
I do see it with ULL and possibly Georgia St.

So you see them going after Louisiana basketball?

Hehe.

That's a good one. According to someone here Gillin and Aresco have already talked. No one knows what that means. Gillin says App is happy in the Sun Belt and that there is no better place to be for App, as well as being in a position to make the Sun Belt stronger. However, if the AAC comes calling, and Marshall is going, I don't see App turning down the opportunity because the next up could be and probably would be someone else from the Sun Belt.

As it stands now, without the three schools that just left, the AAC is a weaker football conference than the Sun Belt. With the teams many believe that they will add, the Sun Belt is still a stronger football conference, especially if we trade Georgia State for Marshall.

There isn't going to be a windfall of cash and recruits because some urban universities decide to go to a depleted AAC either. The remaining schools have only slightly more appeal than C-USA and even then you run the risk of a disjointed mess of programs with little or no history, or tradition of success.

Bringing in Charlotte and GSU would be the equivalent of FCS call-ups in my opinion.

(09-15-2021 01:45 PM)CardinalBlackTrojan Wrote:  KEY POINT:

Mike Aresco and the American Athletic AD's and Presidents are going to try and appeal to Wichita State, Memphis, and Temple as much as they possibly can. All three of those schools will absolutely, undoubtedly defect if a group of schools with no basketball power/tradition are brought in.

Especially Wichita State and Memphis. They are basketball powerhouses. They WILL NOT let themselves share a conference with schools that put a small budget toward basketball and that don't even compete for NCAA at-large bids.

UAB will undoubtedly be the #1 invite. They have the football and basketball needed to fit, and they already have existing rivalries with most of the AAC schools.

In this sense, the best teams to bring in for basketball are based on last year's net ranking:

North Texas 59
La. Tech 76
Western Kentucky 81
UAB 83
Liberty 86
Marshall 88

Some of these may not be candidates, and I realize we must take into account more than 1 year. Liberty has won their conference and made the tournament 3 straight years. Other teams have had success over many years.

If you think they’re making a choice even half way based on basketball I have a bridge in Brooklyn to sell you.

(09-15-2021 05:48 PM)BirdofParadise Wrote:  

(09-15-2021 04:03 PM)ballantyneapp Wrote:  

(09-15-2021 02:06 PM)BirdofParadise Wrote:  

(09-15-2021 01:30 PM)ballantyneapp Wrote:  

(09-15-2021 01:22 PM)Dirty Myrtle Wrote:  Not sure why you think you know what we will do more than I do, but I know for a fact that behind the scenes there’s already talk about making a campaign for joining the AAC. Where a school goes has a lot more to do with things other than just football or where a program happens to be at the present moment. Coastal is growing. The plan is to expand enrollment from current 11k to 16k-17k. As I already said, Myrtle Beach is one of the fastest growing areas in the US. Our golf program produced Dustin Johnson. Our baseball program won a National Championship. Our basketball program has made it to numerous NCAA tournaments and the soccer team is ranked pretty much every year. And then there’s the multi-billionaire donor….again, it’s not speculation….I PROMISE you that if App State leaves, Coastal leaves too. You can take that to the bank and It has little to do with just one good year in football.

Where would Coastal go if the AAC is not an option? The CUSA? Probably without UAB and Marshall if they are adding App. Apps biggest drawback is that we are a regional university. Coastal is a MUCH lower ranked regional Uni. Nobody gives a **** about college golf and soccer, almost nobody cares about college baseball. Even without App the SBC east would be better than CUSA -marshall and UAB. It just doesn't make any sense.

That's one of the worst takes in any thread.

i know that is anathema to many on this board, but baseball is a crappy boring sport.

If you're not competitive, yes. But if you make it a revenue generator, make it family friendly and give people an experience instead of being a (traditionally not good) baseball team, it's great.

Louisiana generates more revenue out of baseball than men's basketball.

I care WAY more about Louisiana Baseball than I do Basketball…crazy but we love it down here.

(09-15-2021 07:39 PM)Big Buds Wrote:  

(09-15-2021 05:48 PM)BirdofParadise Wrote:  

(09-15-2021 04:03 PM)ballantyneapp Wrote:  

(09-15-2021 02:06 PM)BirdofParadise Wrote:  

(09-15-2021 01:30 PM)ballantyneapp Wrote:  Where would Coastal go if the AAC is not an option? The CUSA? Probably without UAB and Marshall if they are adding App. Apps biggest drawback is that we are a regional university. Coastal is a MUCH lower ranked regional Uni. Nobody gives a **** about college golf and soccer, almost nobody cares about college baseball. Even without App the SBC east would be better than CUSA -marshall and UAB. It just doesn't make any sense.

That's one of the worst takes in any thread.

i know that is anathema to many on this board, but baseball is a crappy boring sport.

If you're not competitive, yes. But if you make it a revenue generator, make it family friendly and give people an experience instead of being a (traditionally not good) baseball team, it's great.

Louisiana generates more revenue out of baseball than men's basketball.

I care WAY more about Louisiana Baseball than I do Basketball…crazy but we love it down here.

Same can be said in Hattiesburg

(09-15-2021 07:39 PM)Big Buds Wrote:  

(09-15-2021 05:48 PM)BirdofParadise Wrote:  

(09-15-2021 04:03 PM)ballantyneapp Wrote:  

(09-15-2021 02:06 PM)BirdofParadise Wrote:  

(09-15-2021 01:30 PM)ballantyneapp Wrote:  Where would Coastal go if the AAC is not an option? The CUSA? Probably without UAB and Marshall if they are adding App. Apps biggest drawback is that we are a regional university. Coastal is a MUCH lower ranked regional Uni. Nobody gives a **** about college golf and soccer, almost nobody cares about college baseball. Even without App the SBC east would be better than CUSA -marshall and UAB. It just doesn't make any sense.

That's one of the worst takes in any thread.

i know that is anathema to many on this board, but baseball is a crappy boring sport.

If you're not competitive, yes. But if you make it a revenue generator, make it family friendly and give people an experience instead of being a (traditionally not good) baseball team, it's great.

Louisiana generates more revenue out of baseball than men's basketball.

I care WAY more about Louisiana Baseball than I do Basketball…crazy but we love it down here.

Nothing wrong with that. It's just a culture thing. I'd say the warm weather helps with that. Our baseball teams practice in the snow and then spend the first month playing road games in the south while waiting for the weather up here to get better lol

I would say Troy cares about baseball more than basketball. We had a good season in 2017 but have had more mediocre seasons than great seasons here recently

(09-15-2021 11:39 AM)BeatWestern! Wrote:  

(09-15-2021 11:33 AM)Troy_Fan_15 Wrote:  The AAC has the following in terms of geography

Northeast
Temple (Philadelphia)
Navy

Southeast
ECU (Greensboro)
South Florida (Tampa)
Tulane (New Orleans)
Memphis

Southwest
SMU (Dallas/Ft. Worth)
Tulsa

Midwest
Wichita State

Thinking of academics,, location, etc.

Rice, UTSA, St. Louis BB, UMass, and then some MWC make sense to court first.

Rice, UTSA help the Southwest region grow and adds 2 major Texas markets (which does hold significance whether we believe it should or not)

UMass helps in the Northeast with Temple and Navy.

St. Louis adds a solid basketball program to the Midwest with WSU.

Then MWC teams expand you in into the West. Add a few teams and you really do have a coast to coast, top to bottom American Athletic Conference.

Does it excite me, personally, heck no. Do I think it's the best strategy, heck no. There might be a demand for a conference like this though.

FYI, ECU is in Greenville, NC.

As a Greensboro resident I will be happy to have a 3rd school from the UNC system in the city. That would put us at 60,000+ college students for Greensboro. But I have not heard of any plans to move ECU and Tobacco money used to move campuses across the state is both gone and was only used for privates like Wake Forest and Duke :-)

(09-15-2021 08:32 PM)Troy_Fan_15 Wrote:  I would say Troy cares about baseball more than football. We had a good season in 2017 but have had more mediocre seasons than great seasons here recently

What??? How do you figure that??

Football has always been Troy's primary sport. Baseball is certainly of importance, but nowhere remotely close to football.

(09-15-2021 09:24 PM)CardinalBlackTrojan Wrote:  

(09-15-2021 08:32 PM)Troy_Fan_15 Wrote:  I would say Troy cares about baseball more than football. We had a good season in 2017 but have had more mediocre seasons than great seasons here recently

What??? How do you figure that??

Football has always been Troy's primary sport. Baseball is certainly of importance, but nowhere remotely close to football.

I have no idea why I wrote football. I mean't basketball. That is the second crazy mistake I made today haha. I'll edit the original.