(09-13-2021 05:58 PM)Casanova Wrote:  https://mobile.twitter.com/dennisdoddcbs...9491204102

Apparently the USC job is Fickell’s to turn down. Would be awesome for Cincy fans if he stayed, but Michigan State is much different than USC. Will be interesting

What happens when a Mid-West man, born, bred, and raised goes to Southern California to try to resurrect a program using what works in Ohio?

He gets fired on a tarmac in two years.

I could see Brian Kelly leaving, I was barely surprised. I could see Butch Jones leaving and anyone with half a brain cell seen it coming. I don't expect a coach to stay anywhere too long, its a journey man profession but, Fickell seems different. He turned down head coaching jobs to remain an assistant at Ohio State under his predecessor, the guy who came in after his mentor was fired, and decided to work UNDER him for SIX more years. Luke made his interest in the Cincinnati job known. Nobody knew or expected Luke to want to be a head coach, he never shown much desire before. Luke interviewed at WVU and MSU because he had actual strong connection there. Dantonio (was one of Luke mentors and was a part of trying to get Luke to replace him at MSU) and WVU had Gordon Gee who was there essentially there the whole time Fickell was at OSU. Bohn isn't Gee or Dantonio and there relationship was merely a work relationship nothing more.

USC is outside of what I believe Fickell would ever want to do. The reason why he took the Cincinnati job is because his wife was a strong supporter (may even suggested he take a look at the opportunity) because it was close to "home" and she had family nearby. I believe Fickell is a man of stability and he enjoys the underdog role. While at OSU he would routinely recruit and convince OSU on taking chances on lower ranked players. I believe he wants to punch his way to the top I think he enjoy accolades of being "one of the few". He was a 3 time state wrestling champ something he takes pride in and "one of the few" to do it.

I just don't believe a man who enjoys building an underdog would be in a rush to run to USC. I don't think he'd be in a rush to run anywhere and I think any decision would be a big decision for him to make. I personally feel like Marcus Freeman left because he realized Luke Fickell isn't leaving anytime soon. I truly believe Freeman thought Fickell would leave soon and would be a shoo in for the UC job and it never happened.

Kelly isn’t taking on a rebuild at 60 years old. His ego couldn’t handle it.

(09-15-2021 04:17 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  Kelly isn’t taking on a rebuild at 60 years old. His ego couldn’t handle it.

At USC? Kelly would not take this job because of his age?

He would not have the recruiting restrictions he has at ND in a hotbed of talent. If the contract is right, he is there.

He gone

He's never going to have a situation where he's this marketable. He has to make a move for his career. UC will not further his career. I'm sure he loves being at UC, but it's not USC/Ohio State/whatever. Memphis lost Fuentes and Norville for the same reason. I don't what team he will pick but he'll be picking one of them. B12 is more unstable than the AAC. Everything is a mess right now. He's a hot commodity.

(09-15-2021 07:42 PM)sierrajip Wrote:  

(09-15-2021 04:17 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  Kelly isn’t taking on a rebuild at 60 years old. His ego couldn’t handle it.

At USC? Kelly would not take this job because of his age?

He would not have the recruiting restrictions he has at ND in a hotbed of talent. If the contract is right, he is there.

The recruiting restrictions at ND are largely an urban myth.

He’s not leaving ND for another college gig.

And Fickell isn’t going to USC. Penn State might worry me a little if Franklin leaves but OSU and ND are the only 2 jobs where I’d expect him to make a move.

(09-13-2021 05:33 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  

(09-13-2021 05:13 PM)Bear Catlett Wrote:  If he didn't go to Michigan St., he's not going to USC.

I don't know if he'd take the job or not, but USC is A LOT better job than Michigan State. I mean not comparable.

Yes, USC is a top-5 blue-blood with all the resources in the world.

Way better job than MSU - or Cincinnati.

But who knows what motivates someone?

(09-16-2021 08:48 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(09-13-2021 05:33 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  

(09-13-2021 05:13 PM)Bear Catlett Wrote:  If he didn't go to Michigan St., he's not going to USC.

I don't know if he'd take the job or not, but USC is A LOT better job than Michigan State. I mean not comparable.

Yes, USC is a top-5 blue-blood with all the resources in the world.

Way better job than MSU - or Cincinnati.

But who knows what motivates someone?

The new USC coach will be LA native and KC Chief's OC Eric Beiniemy. A dark horse will be Coach Prime, with a top level staff built around him. USC needs to go big and with flash.

(09-16-2021 08:56 AM)triplegood Wrote:  

(09-16-2021 08:48 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(09-13-2021 05:33 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  

(09-13-2021 05:13 PM)Bear Catlett Wrote:  If he didn't go to Michigan St., he's not going to USC.

I don't know if he'd take the job or not, but USC is A LOT better job than Michigan State. I mean not comparable.

Yes, USC is a top-5 blue-blood with all the resources in the world.

Way better job than MSU - or Cincinnati.

But who knows what motivates someone?

The new USC coach will be LA native and KC Chief's OC Eric Beiniemy. A dark horse will be Coach Prime, with a top level staff built around him. USC needs to go big and with flash.

IMO, going big with flash, especially in terms of hiring "USC family" has been part of USC's problem. Kind of like Georgetown in basketball - we keep insisting on hiring people connected to the glory days of John Thompson, which was going on 40 years ago.

To me, Bienemy would be a bad choice. Someone like Fikell would be a good choice. And I don't like USC, LOL.

(09-16-2021 08:48 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(09-13-2021 05:33 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  

(09-13-2021 05:13 PM)Bear Catlett Wrote:  If he didn't go to Michigan St., he's not going to USC.

I don't know if he'd take the job or not, but USC is A LOT better job than Michigan State. I mean not comparable.

Yes, USC is a top-5 blue-blood with all the resources in the world.

Way better job than MSU - or Cincinnati.

But who knows what motivates someone?

Exactly...it's not that we're comparing the quality of program, because there is no comparison there.

Michigan State was a job we were all worried about for quite some time as a place where Fickell might head, a Midwestern program of some repute, values defense, allows him to retain all of his recruiting contacts, a two hour drive from all of both his and Amy's extended families, a relatively decent Catholic school system, etc.. That may are saying "He didn't go to MSU so he won't go to USC" is those people looking at the fact that MSU was the kind of job that 'made sense' for Fickell to leave to, especially given that they offered him nearly double what he was making at the time (prior to the extension he signed last spring), and he didn't leave. It makes many think there really, truly, are only like 1-3 jobs out there that he would leave for...and rebuilding a program, thousands of miles away from home, in a place he has never recruited, and in a market that requires you to be EXTREMELY media forward (something he is not huge on), doesn't make as much sense as Michigan State did. At the end of the day...he could absolutely go to USC, but it would be odd given that he turned down MSU, a job that made a ton of sense knowing what many of us have learned about Fickell throughout his 5-year tenure at UC.

(09-16-2021 08:09 AM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  

(09-15-2021 07:42 PM)sierrajip Wrote:  

(09-15-2021 04:17 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  Kelly isn’t taking on a rebuild at 60 years old. His ego couldn’t handle it.

At USC? Kelly would not take this job because of his age?

He would not have the recruiting restrictions he has at ND in a hotbed of talent. If the contract is right, he is there.

The recruiting restrictions at ND are largely an urban myth.

He’s not leaving ND for another college gig.

And Fickell isn’t going to USC. Penn State might worry me a little if Franklin leaves but OSU and ND are the only 2 jobs where I’d expect him to make a move.

Pretty much... We have some restrictions, but nothing that prevents us from competing at the highest level.

I just get tired of the lazy takes from both fans of other schools and the national media. Everyone wants to compare Fickell to every other coach who has jumped for bigger jobs, but very few actually consider the fact that each coach's personality and desire is unique. Will Fickell leave UC for a bigger job someday? Probably. But unlike most up-and-coming coaches, he is in no hurry to do so. Family will absolutely come first in any decision Fickell makes, and he takes a very calculated approach to every decision. The school has to be a fit in terms of culture, recruiting, and ability to win championships. More importantly, it has to be in a location that his wife Amy will sign off on. I just can't see the Fickell family packing up and moving to LA. Stranger things have happened, but I put the likelihood of this one as very small. Also, the Bohn connection is overblown. Fickell and Bohn weren't especially close, and Bohn wasn't well liked by everyone at UC. The connection makes it more likely that Bohn will try to court Fickell, but I don't think it makes it anymore likely that Fickell takes the USC job.

(09-14-2021 12:26 PM)GoOwls111 Wrote:  

(09-14-2021 12:00 PM)robertfoshizzle Wrote:  

(09-14-2021 10:18 AM)GoOwls111 Wrote:  

(09-13-2021 06:26 PM)UCGrad1992 Wrote:  USC AD Bohn will make a phone call to Fick. That part is certain. A lot of names will initially be thrown around but don't count out the guy they named as interim also.

If Luke Fichkell doesn't take USC job Franklin will...

Fickell will not pass up on Penn State.

But Ficckell probably will take the USC job.

You wish that would happen. You want everyone else to share in your misery, as evidenced by your consistently bitter and negative posts about other programs in the AAC.

Nope, you still don't get it... Just classless UC... "BIG XII" banner... I felt the same way when Rutgers replaced the BIG EAST logos with the big 10 even before official acceptance into the big 10.

When has UC been anything but transparent. UC was determined to get in a larger conference by all means necessary -- even if it meant stepping over the steaming corpse of its AAC conference-mates. As for the BIG XII banner -- that's branding. Maybe Temple should try it because it well help with their MAC application.

(09-16-2021 12:30 PM)robertfoshizzle Wrote:  I just get tired of the lazy takes from both fans of other schools and the national media. Everyone wants to compare Fickell to every other coach who has jumped for bigger jobs, but very few actually consider the fact that each coach's personality and desire is unique. Will Fickell leave UC for a bigger job someday? Probably. But unlike most up-and-coming coaches, he is in no hurry to do so. Family will absolutely come first in any decision Fickell makes, and he takes a very calculated approach to every decision. The school has to be a fit in terms of culture, recruiting, and ability to win championships. More importantly, it has to be in a location that his wife Amy will sign off on. I just can't see the Fickell family packing up and moving to LA. Stranger things have happened, but I put the likelihood of this one as very small. Also, the Bohn connection is overblown. Fickell and Bohn weren't especially close, and Bohn wasn't well liked by everyone at UC. The connection makes it more likely that Bohn will try to court Fickell, but I don't think it makes it anymore likely that Fickell takes the USC job.

Fickell is not going to USC in my opinion.

But every successful team in this league said nearly the same thing as your just did at some point in time just before losing their coach to a blue blood. So there is that

I dont think he goes to USC, but I bet he gets a good raise at UC.

Don't worry guys, she's not like all the other girls.

I don't know the financial terms, but the USC head coaching gig would be very difficult to take a pass on. Go AAC!!

I can tell ya Brian Kelly isn’t going anywhere. Brian grew up a ND fan and this is his dream job, and that’s not your typical BS answer many give.

He truly wanted ND more than anything and got it. As long as he keeps winning, he will retire at ND. Alumni are happy with him… well, as happy as any alumni base that isn’t Alabama. They all complain but they love Brian.

(09-17-2021 03:29 PM)mtmedlin Wrote:  I can tell ya Brian Kelly isn’t going anywhere. Brian grew up a ND fan and this is his dream job, and that’s not your typical BS answer many give.

He truly wanted ND more than anything and got it. As long as he keeps winning, he will retire at ND. Alumni are happy with him… well, as happy as any alumni base that isn’t Alabama. They all complain but they love Brian.

If Kelly left Notre Dame, it would only be on the eve of that school's most important ever bowl game. To show his true colors, he'd also show up at ND's team dinner with a body guard and wearing a USC tie.