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^^^ Truth
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USF is going to be fine, The biggest thing they did was made some bad coaching hires. UCF got lucky and made some good ones. That can change very quickly for either school.
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(09-15-2021 07:01 AM)goodknightfl Wrote:  USF is going to be fine, The biggest thing they did was made some bad coaching hires. UCF got lucky and made some good ones. That can change very quickly for either school.

This ^^^^^. Getting the OCS built on campus will help too. At least get it under construction if they can before the next realignment move in 2024 / 2025. If it is, USF will certainly be on the next B-12 expansion list as a travel partner to UCF and further exposure into the Florida TV and recruiting market. 07-coffee3
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(09-14-2021 07:46 PM)mtmedlin Wrote:  
(09-14-2021 05:00 PM)RobUCF Wrote:  
(09-14-2021 03:49 PM)mtmedlin Wrote:  Thats a very UCF look at it. Youve never been in a higher conference. GO ahead and be in the BIg 12 for a few years and when the PAC comes and guts them, then will your fans be pumped about USF, Memphis, Tulane and SMU being added?

I bet youll have a hard time being pumped about it. Its incredibly easy to snipe from a distance when you have never experienced it.

To be clear, were building at the rate we are because the Big 12 has had us in their final list twice now. We had a meeting with them and though no promises were made, it was made very clear as to what they need to see in order for us to get in.

Our commitment will be well over $200 million for new football facilities. From what I am hearing the OCS will be in the $200-250 million range. That number will be a combined facility. Originally the stadium and the Football operations center were going to be 2 buildings. Now it appears it will be 1 due to cost savings.

USF is probably one of the most fiscally conservative schools in the nation. Its why we have been able to be the fastest rising academic institute in the US. (US news said this, not me) and to amass a $700 million endowment, which is very high for a school started in the 1950s. If we are investing that kind of money, its not for an unplanned future. Weve been told and were acting.

And that's a very USF way to look at it, which is the likely the primary reason we received a B12 invite over you. An OCS is not just a building, it's a way to get your fans and alumni on campus and to develop a fan base. Sure, premium amenities matter, but they are less important than developing your fans. I graduated UCF before they built an OCS and after graduating did not attend one game in the old Citrus Bowl. When I went back for my first game in our OCS, it just felt different, it brought me pride and the feeling that I was still part of the University. This year I am hoping to get my son on campus for the first time. Your fans have never realized what they are missing, but get it built and it will come to them.

Nobody is arguing to the different but UCF fans as usual have a point of view that just doesn’t recognize the massive difference. We could acknowledge the 19 year head start in football that UCF had. You should have beat us into the big East. Almost two decades later your getting into a better conference… it’s a bit late but you are just now doing what you should have been doing in the past.

We could talk about why UCF got in. We could go over some very questionable actions that helped you.

Or we can just leave a usf thread to be about usf and realize that UCF didn’t have an IPF, a football performance center or an OCS when their program was 25 years old.

We’re fine. There isn’t some huge shift we need to do and we don’t lack some special thing… we’re 19 years younger as a program. You should have gotten in over us. Hell, you should have never lost to us, ever.

So again, congrats. We’ll be just fine.

Don't get all bent out of shape. We are discussing the the article that got posted in this thread.

So the article upon which this thread was started implies that adding facilities will be key to getting an invite to a bigger conference, and I agree that it is A key but not THE key. The point of my posts are to question whether for usf, without embracing their place in the AAC will facilities be enough. I question that even if you build the facilities, if the fans do not come out to the games against AAC competition, usf will not be that attractive of a candidate for expansion. to be blunt, many usf fans I have interacted with over the last 8 years or so have believed their program was too good for the AAC. They just could not get excited about playing Temple etc. Despite not winning a single thing in the last 7 years, they still look down their noses at the AAC. It is all over your message boards and even in this thread someone referenced it. For those fans will adding an OCS make a difference to have them support AAC play?

Stop with the UCF did something questionable stuff nonsense. It is untrue and a distraction from the question of fan culture. Does usf have the culture to support their team no matter what conference they are in? Because that is a part of what makes the program attractive. There are many UCF fans, despite being accepted to the B12 that are waiting for the rug to be pulled out from under them because that has been our history time and again. We are prepared for it. Is usf prepared for it?
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(09-14-2021 07:46 PM)mtmedlin Wrote:  
(09-14-2021 05:00 PM)RobUCF Wrote:  
(09-14-2021 03:49 PM)mtmedlin Wrote:  Thats a very UCF look at it. Youve never been in a higher conference. GO ahead and be in the BIg 12 for a few years and when the PAC comes and guts them, then will your fans be pumped about USF, Memphis, Tulane and SMU being added?

I bet youll have a hard time being pumped about it. Its incredibly easy to snipe from a distance when you have never experienced it.

To be clear, were building at the rate we are because the Big 12 has had us in their final list twice now. We had a meeting with them and though no promises were made, it was made very clear as to what they need to see in order for us to get in.

Our commitment will be well over $200 million for new football facilities. From what I am hearing the OCS will be in the $200-250 million range. That number will be a combined facility. Originally the stadium and the Football operations center were going to be 2 buildings. Now it appears it will be 1 due to cost savings.

USF is probably one of the most fiscally conservative schools in the nation. Its why we have been able to be the fastest rising academic institute in the US. (US news said this, not me) and to amass a $700 million endowment, which is very high for a school started in the 1950s. If we are investing that kind of money, its not for an unplanned future. Weve been told and were acting.

And that's a very USF way to look at it, which is the likely the primary reason we received a B12 invite over you. An OCS is not just a building, it's a way to get your fans and alumni on campus and to develop a fan base. Sure, premium amenities matter, but they are less important than developing your fans. I graduated UCF before they built an OCS and after graduating did not attend one game in the old Citrus Bowl. When I went back for my first game in our OCS, it just felt different, it brought me pride and the feeling that I was still part of the University. This year I am hoping to get my son on campus for the first time. Your fans have never realized what they are missing, but get it built and it will come to them.

Nobody is arguing to the different but UCF fans as usual have a point of view that just doesn’t recognize the massive difference. We could acknowledge the 19 year head start in football that UCF had. You should have beat us into the big East. Almost two decades later your getting into a better conference… it’s a bit late but you are just now doing what you should have been doing in the past.

We could talk about why UCF got in. We could go over some very questionable actions that helped you.

Or we can just leave a usf thread to be about usf and realize that UCF didn’t have an IPF, a football performance center or an OCS when their program was 25 years old.

We’re fine. There isn’t some huge shift we need to do and we don’t lack some special thing… we’re 19 years younger as a program. You should have gotten in over us. Hell, you should have never lost to us, ever.

So again, congrats. We’ll be just fine.

Don't get all bent out of shape. We are discussing the the article that got posted in this thread.

So the article upon which this thread was started implies that adding facilities will be key to getting an invite to a bigger conference, and I agree that it is A key but not THE key. The point of my posts are to question whether for usf, without embracing their place in the AAC will facilities be enough. I question that even if you build the facilities, if the fans do not come out to the games against AAC competition, usf will not be that attractive of a candidate for expansion. to be blunt, many usf fans I have interacted with over the last 8 years or so have believed their program was too good for the AAC. They just could not get excited about playing Temple etc. Despite not winning a single thing in the last 7 years, they still look down their noses at the AAC. It is all over your message boards and even in this thread someone referenced it. For those fans will adding an OCS make a difference to have them support AAC play?

Stop with the UCF did something questionable stuff nonsense. It is untrue and a distraction from the question of fan culture. Does usf have the culture to support their team no matter what conference they are in? Because that is a part of what makes the program attractive. There are many UCF fans, despite being accepted to the B12 that are waiting for the rug to be pulled out from under them because that has been our history time and again. We are prepared for it. Is usf prepared for it?
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(09-15-2021 02:34 PM)Noise Penalty Wrote:  
(09-14-2021 07:46 PM)mtmedlin Wrote:  
(09-14-2021 05:00 PM)RobUCF Wrote:  
(09-14-2021 03:49 PM)mtmedlin Wrote:  Thats a very UCF look at it. Youve never been in a higher conference. GO ahead and be in the BIg 12 for a few years and when the PAC comes and guts them, then will your fans be pumped about USF, Memphis, Tulane and SMU being added?

I bet youll have a hard time being pumped about it. Its incredibly easy to snipe from a distance when you have never experienced it.

To be clear, were building at the rate we are because the Big 12 has had us in their final list twice now. We had a meeting with them and though no promises were made, it was made very clear as to what they need to see in order for us to get in.

Our commitment will be well over $200 million for new football facilities. From what I am hearing the OCS will be in the $200-250 million range. That number will be a combined facility. Originally the stadium and the Football operations center were going to be 2 buildings. Now it appears it will be 1 due to cost savings.

USF is probably one of the most fiscally conservative schools in the nation. Its why we have been able to be the fastest rising academic institute in the US. (US news said this, not me) and to amass a $700 million endowment, which is very high for a school started in the 1950s. If we are investing that kind of money, its not for an unplanned future. Weve been told and were acting.

And that's a very USF way to look at it, which is the likely the primary reason we received a B12 invite over you. An OCS is not just a building, it's a way to get your fans and alumni on campus and to develop a fan base. Sure, premium amenities matter, but they are less important than developing your fans. I graduated UCF before they built an OCS and after graduating did not attend one game in the old Citrus Bowl. When I went back for my first game in our OCS, it just felt different, it brought me pride and the feeling that I was still part of the University. This year I am hoping to get my son on campus for the first time. Your fans have never realized what they are missing, but get it built and it will come to them.

Nobody is arguing to the different but UCF fans as usual have a point of view that just doesn’t recognize the massive difference. We could acknowledge the 19 year head start in football that UCF had. You should have beat us into the big East. Almost two decades later your getting into a better conference… it’s a bit late but you are just now doing what you should have been doing in the past.

We could talk about why UCF got in. We could go over some very questionable actions that helped you.

Or we can just leave a usf thread to be about usf and realize that UCF didn’t have an IPF, a football performance center or an OCS when their program was 25 years old.

We’re fine. There isn’t some huge shift we need to do and we don’t lack some special thing… we’re 19 years younger as a program. You should have gotten in over us. Hell, you should have never lost to us, ever.

So again, congrats. We’ll be just fine.

Don't get all bent out of shape. We are discussing the the article that got posted in this thread.

So the article upon which this thread was started implies that adding facilities will be key to getting an invite to a bigger conference, and I agree that it is A key but not THE key. The point of my posts are to question whether for usf, without embracing their place in the AAC will facilities be enough. I question that even if you build the facilities, if the fans do not come out to the games against AAC competition, usf will not be that attractive of a candidate for expansion. to be blunt, many usf fans I have interacted with over the last 8 years or so have believed their program was too good for the AAC. They just could not get excited about playing Temple etc. Despite not winning a single thing in the last 7 years, they still look down their noses at the AAC. It is all over your message boards and even in this thread someone referenced it. For those fans will adding an OCS make a difference to have them support AAC play?

Stop with the UCF did something questionable stuff nonsense. It is untrue and a distraction from the question of fan culture. Does usf have the culture to support their team no matter what conference they are in? Because that is a part of what makes the program attractive. There are many UCF fans, despite being accepted to the B12 that are waiting for the rug to be pulled out from under them because that has been our history time and again. We are prepared for it. Is usf prepared for it?

USF has been in FCS,Independent,CUSA,BigEast and AAC. It has had enough support in all when winning. So yes to your question
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(09-14-2021 02:34 PM)Poseidon Wrote:  
(09-13-2021 04:03 PM)mtmedlin Wrote:  By the next round of expansion we will have built a $3 million locker room, $22 million IPF, an massive football operations center and a stadium. We still will have the highest academics outside of Tulane and a top 11 market.

I am happy we didnt make it this time. IT would have only set us up to be a bottom dweller. This motivated our fanbase, administration and power brokers in our state. It literally may be the best thing ever for us... better than the Big East.

It often takes a slap or death scare to wake an organization out of complacency.

In 2003 the then Tulane president and some of the board tried to move Tulane to DII sports. The fan, donors, and other board member were forced stand up. They did and the tide was turned though it took a while to reach the shore beacuse the president stayed around for alomost a decade longer, but the borad changed and became very football friendly composed of pro Tulane football folks as well as pro-fooball big whigs like Gayle Benson(owner of the Saints) and Jill Glazer(wife of the Bucs owner). Sicnce then we have hired a better AD, moved into an OCS, and upgraded facilities where our small campus footprint has allowed. The stated realistic goal of the atheletic department's major teans is to have our athletic programs rank up there with our academic ranking(top 40) . Tulane athletics, particually football, since 2014 has commited itself being yop 40 and not just feilding a team mirrioring Rice like it did from 99-2013.

---Also the fmr Tulane president who tried kill Tulane football is now on the UConn Board of Trustees. We'll see how that works out......

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Quote:Stop with the UCF did something questionable stuff nonsense. It is untrue and a distraction from the question of fan culture.

Setting everything aside and without snark.

USF fans have to put up with UCF fans claiming we blocked their entry into the Big East. There is no proof. At all. Just the word of a disgraced espn reporter who has an ax to grind.

On the opposite end, when USF fans mention your dirty past, we’re told it isn’t true.
1. Your school was placed in NCAA probation for cheating.
2. While on probation, you got caught again. In total, 7 years of probation.
3. Your BBall coach got a three year “show cause” for cheating.
4. Your AD was fired for actively participating in it.
5. Your school misappropriated over $120 million in funds, in order to expand to become the largest university, instead of using the funds for what the state allocated.

There’s more. A lot more I could go into but I am honestly not trying to start a fight.
I am simply pointing out that USF fans CONSTANTLY have to deal with a lie and your fans are rabid about pushing it. When we point out things, like I did above, which are public record, and factually accurate and absolutely proveable by an easy internet search, we’re told it’s lies.

It’s not. I can go get all the Orlando sentinel links to everything I said. There were full investigations. I can post their results which 100% prove everything I said.

Not a single person can actually provide any proof about our “blocking ucf”. There’s one report from Brett McMurphy. A fired and disgraced reporter.

Can ya see how absolutely frustrating this is?

As far as culture, I get where you’re going and the answer is yes. We needed a kick in the ass and we got it, but many will need to watch what they wished for. Just as UCF was a beast waiting for their time, USF has all the same advantages, and now we’re moving in the right direction. Maybe one day our schools paths will cross again.
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(09-15-2021 03:53 PM)mtmedlin Wrote:  
Quote:Stop with the UCF did something questionable stuff nonsense. It is untrue and a distraction from the question of fan culture.

Setting everything aside and without snark.

USF fans have to put up with UCF fans claiming we blocked their entry into the Big East. There is no proof. At all. Just the word of a disgraced espn reporter who has an ax to grind.

On the opposite end, when USF fans mention your dirty past, we’re told it isn’t true.
1. Your school was placed in NCAA probation for cheating.
2. While on probation, you got caught again. In total, 7 years of probation.
3. Your BBall coach got a three year “show cause” for cheating.
4. Your AD was fired for actively participating in it.
5. Your school misappropriated over $120 million in funds, in order to expand to become the largest university, instead of using the funds for what the state allocated.

There’s more. A lot more I could go into but I am honestly not trying to start a fight.
I am simply pointing out that USF fans CONSTANTLY have to deal with a lie and your fans are rabid about pushing it. When we point out things, like I did above, which are public record, and factually accurate and absolutely proveable by an easy internet search, we’re told it’s lies.

It’s not. I can go get all the Orlando sentinel links to everything I said. There were full investigations. I can post their results which 100% prove everything I said.

Not a single person can actually provide any proof about our “blocking ucf”. There’s one report from Brett McMurphy. A fired and disgraced reporter.

Can ya see how absolutely frustrating this is?

As far as culture, I get where you’re going and the answer is yes. We needed a kick in the ass and we got it, but many will need to watch what they wished for. Just as UCF was a beast waiting for their time, USF has all the same advantages, and now we’re moving in the right direction. Maybe one day our schools paths will cross again.

I used to believe the same thing as you about Judy, however obviously you have not been paying attention. In the last couple of weeks lots of people who covered the Big East has come out and flat out said that Judy blackballed UCF at every turn. those sources quoted league officials and presidents. There is absolutely no question to me that this is fact. Now there was plenty wrong with the Big East, but it is clear that Judy blocked UCF at every turn.

As for the stuff in your list, I don't think anyone says it is not true, I think they say it had no real substance except for what Keith Tribble did. So I guess it was an advantage that he got caught and fired because he was awful. The rest of the so called violations were a joke. You lost all credibility when you listed the misappropriations of funds. That was a joke too as it would turn out that every school (including UF and usf) did the same thing with those kinds of funds. So much so that they changed the rules.

Anyway none of this had anything to do with UCF being picked over usf. I hope usf can get it together. Life is more fun with a villain
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Show me any direct quotes with names. I’ve been tracking this for decades and nobody has ever gotten a confirmed quote, a shred of evidence or a single email. Nothing.

It all goes back to Brett McMurphys lie. Massive circular reporting.

The absolute truth is the catholic 7 and Notre Dame only wanted high academic schools and fought against anyone. It wasn’t just UCF. It was every school. Until they finally let TCU in but with the stipulation that Nova could also move up.

USF couldn’t have stopped it. The second the catholic 7 voted against someone, it was done. That was the whole ballgame.
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And of course a UCF fan wouldn’t think all the dirty **** y’all did wasn’t an advantage. You lost all credibility when you denied any semblance of neutrality.

But let’s allow this thread to go back to its intent, since we obviously wont agree.
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(09-15-2021 03:53 PM)mtmedlin Wrote:  
Quote:Stop with the UCF did something questionable stuff nonsense. It is untrue and a distraction from the question of fan culture.

Setting everything aside and without snark.

USF fans have to put up with UCF fans claiming we blocked their entry into the Big East. There is no proof. At all. Just the word of a disgraced espn reporter who has an ax to grind.

On the opposite end, when USF fans mention your dirty past, we’re told it isn’t true.
1. Your school was placed in NCAA probation for cheating.
2. While on probation, you got caught again. In total, 7 years of probation.
3. Your BBall coach got a three year “show cause” for cheating.
4. Your AD was fired for actively participating in it.
5. Your school misappropriated over $120 million in funds, in order to expand to become the largest university, instead of using the funds for what the state allocated.

There’s more. A lot more I could go into but I am honestly not trying to start a fight.
I am simply pointing out that USF fans CONSTANTLY have to deal with a lie and your fans are rabid about pushing it. When we point out things, like I did above, which are public record, and factually accurate and absolutely proveable by an easy internet search, we’re told it’s lies.

It’s not. I can go get all the Orlando sentinel links to everything I said. There were full investigations. I can post their results which 100% prove everything I said.

Not a single person can actually provide any proof about our “blocking ucf”. There’s one report from Brett McMurphy. A fired and disgraced reporter.

Can ya see how absolutely frustrating this is?

As far as culture, I get where you’re going and the answer is yes. We needed a kick in the ass and we got it, but many will need to watch what they wished for. Just as UCF was a beast waiting for their time, USF has all the same advantages, and now we’re moving in the right direction. Maybe one day our schools paths will cross again.

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(09-13-2021 04:03 PM)mtmedlin Wrote:  By the next round of expansion we will have built a $3 million locker room, $22 million IPF, an massive football operations center and a stadium. We still will have the highest academics outside of Tulane and a top 11 market.

I am happy we didnt make it this time. IT would have only set us up to be a bottom dweller. This motivated our fanbase, administration and power brokers in our state. It literally may be the best thing ever for us... better than the Big East.

Follow UH plan and you will bypass UCF!05-stirthepot
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(09-15-2021 03:53 PM)mtmedlin Wrote:  
Quote:Stop with the UCF did something questionable stuff nonsense. It is untrue and a distraction from the question of fan culture.

Setting everything aside and without snark.

USF fans have to put up with UCF fans claiming we blocked their entry into the Big East. There is no proof. At all. Just the word of a disgraced espn reporter who has an ax to grind.

On the opposite end, when USF fans mention your dirty past, we’re told it isn’t true.
1. Your school was placed in NCAA probation for cheating.
2. While on probation, you got caught again. In total, 7 years of probation.
3. Your BBall coach got a three year “show cause” for cheating.
4. Your AD was fired for actively participating in it.
5. Your school misappropriated over $120 million in funds, in order to expand to become the largest university, instead of using the funds for what the state allocated.

There’s more. A lot more I could go into but I am honestly not trying to start a fight.
I am simply pointing out that USF fans CONSTANTLY have to deal with a lie and your fans are rabid about pushing it. When we point out things, like I did above, which are public record, and factually accurate and absolutely proveable by an easy internet search, we’re told it’s lies.

It’s not. I can go get all the Orlando sentinel links to everything I said. There were full investigations. I can post their results which 100% prove everything I said.

Not a single person can actually provide any proof about our “blocking ucf”. There’s one report from Brett McMurphy. A fired and disgraced reporter.

Can ya see how absolutely frustrating this is?

As far as culture, I get where you’re going and the answer is yes. We needed a kick in the ass and we got it, but many will need to watch what they wished for. Just as UCF was a beast waiting for their time, USF has all the same advantages, and now we’re moving in the right direction. Maybe one day our schools paths will cross again.

Everyone has a history. usf has also gotten in trouble for misusing funds to build stuff on campus and basketball recruiting violations. Pretty much every P5 school probably has some sort of violation as well.

You totally ignore the point though. You guys have always thought you were better than us and better than this despite literally never winning a single thing of significance on the field in football. Hell you haven't even ever played for a conference title. The entitlement is embarrassingly laughable. You aren't better than the Temples and ECUs that come to your stadium and you hold your nose and blame them for attendance. usf is getting left behind because your admins don't invest in athletics and you have no real fan support. Fix both please because as much as I love to hate on our rival, I do want you to move up with us.
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(09-15-2021 08:26 PM)mtmedlin Wrote:  Show me any direct quotes with names. I’ve been tracking this for decades and nobody has ever gotten a confirmed quote, a shred of evidence or a single email. Nothing.

It all goes back to Brett McMurphys lie. Massive circular reporting.

The absolute truth is the catholic 7 and Notre Dame only wanted high academic schools and fought against anyone. It wasn’t just UCF. It was every school. Until they finally let TCU in but with the stipulation that Nova could also move up.

USF couldn’t have stopped it. The second the catholic 7 voted against someone, it was done. That was the whole ballgame.

Confirms Judy blocked UCF
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(09-16-2021 09:42 AM)Noise Penalty Wrote:  
(09-15-2021 08:26 PM)mtmedlin Wrote:  Show me any direct quotes with names. I’ve been tracking this for decades and nobody has ever gotten a confirmed quote, a shred of evidence or a single email. Nothing.

It all goes back to Brett McMurphys lie. Massive circular reporting.

The absolute truth is the catholic 7 and Notre Dame only wanted high academic schools and fought against anyone. It wasn’t just UCF. It was every school. Until they finally let TCU in but with the stipulation that Nova could also move up.

USF couldn’t have stopped it. The second the catholic 7 voted against someone, it was done. That was the whole ballgame.

Confirms Judy blocked UCF

He's just going to say its a lie and that Brett McMurphy made up the whole rumor and its all lies.

Easier to stick your head in the sand and call everyone a liar than to believe there might be some truth to it.
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OMG isn’t there another thread dealing with this old BS story?
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Let FAMU upset usf this week... Inject it straight into my veins...
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(09-16-2021 10:12 AM)ArmoredUpKnight Wrote:  Let FAMU upset usf this week... Inject it straight into my veins...

LOL. Love that hate and insecurity that just seeing USF has upon so many of UCF supporters.
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(09-16-2021 09:43 AM)MagicKnightmare Wrote:  
(09-16-2021 09:42 AM)Noise Penalty Wrote:  
(09-15-2021 08:26 PM)mtmedlin Wrote:  Show me any direct quotes with names. I’ve been tracking this for decades and nobody has ever gotten a confirmed quote, a shred of evidence or a single email. Nothing.

It all goes back to Brett McMurphys lie. Massive circular reporting.

The absolute truth is the catholic 7 and Notre Dame only wanted high academic schools and fought against anyone. It wasn’t just UCF. It was every school. Until they finally let TCU in but with the stipulation that Nova could also move up.

USF couldn’t have stopped it. The second the catholic 7 voted against someone, it was done. That was the whole ballgame.

Confirms Judy blocked UCF

He's just going to say its a lie and that Brett McMurphy made up the whole rumor and its all lies.

Easier to stick your head in the sand and call everyone a liar than to believe there might be some truth to it.

He made up a lie that UCF fans went to him and told him on Twitter that I’ve been disowned by UCF fans and I’ll believe any lie because I said the same. That should tell you all you need to know.
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