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RE: Comparative attendance
(09-16-2021 06:55 AM)JB04 Wrote:  Obviously if we had Big 10 opponents playing in Huskies Stadium our attendance would be more competitive like Illinois or Northwestern. Imagine if Wisconsin or Iowa were coming to Huskies Stadium instead of Ball State or EMU. 03-cloud9

exactly a better conference schedule guarantees bigger teams coming in every year, not a bottom level p5 team once every 5 years. Not going to get into the b10 (use any power conference you prefer), but if we were then UM, UW, Iowa, etc are at HS every couple of years. that alone puts more people in the seats.
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Toledo attendance today doesn't look any better than our's last weekend.
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(09-18-2021 06:36 PM)epasnoopy Wrote:  Toledo attendance today doesn't look any better than our's last weekend.

Toledo announces 21,783 in attendance for their game. I'm guessing 8,000 of them were hiding outside the stadium.
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Michigan announced 106k fans for their game. That did not seem like the case being there.
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I think NIU must be the only school that undercounts attendance.
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(09-19-2021 06:14 PM)Dog Fan Wrote:  I think NIU must be the only school that undercounts attendance.

Fans waiting in line for hot dogs don’t get counted.
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(09-15-2021 03:39 PM)DiehardHuskie Wrote:  I went to the Illinois v Nebraska game a few weeks back. Tickets to that game were cheaper than west side reserved seats in HS. I bought tickets through the U of I website, not a broker.

Division leading Chicago White Sox tickets are available for $6 per ticket, or around $10 including fees.
But if one decides to walk up to watch the Huskies one has to shell out $23 per ticket. That's basically $100 bucks for a family of 4, and doesn't include hot dogs or cokes. For comparison, the Sox have family pack deal that for $15 includes game ticket, a hot dog, a drink and chips.)

So .... how is our walk-up ticket sales? I wonder why!
How is the trend in game day ticket sales? Athletics have made mistake after mistake in everything related to gaining attendance. Let's not forget STF's bright idea to move the homecoming game from early October where attendance was always the highest or second highest (next to opening day) to get people to attend the later games. Instead you still have a drop off in attendance in the later games, and now even home coming is not that great an attendance day.
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RE: Comparative attendance
(09-23-2021 09:58 AM)chihuskie Wrote:  
(09-15-2021 03:39 PM)DiehardHuskie Wrote:  I went to the Illinois v Nebraska game a few weeks back. Tickets to that game were cheaper than west side reserved seats in HS. I bought tickets through the U of I website, not a broker.

Division leading Chicago White Sox tickets are available for $6 per ticket, or around $10 including fees.
But if one decides to walk up to watch the Huskies one has to shell out $23 per ticket. That's basically $100 bucks for a family of 4, and doesn't include hot dogs or cokes. For comparison, the Sox have family pack deal that for $15 includes game ticket, a hot dog, a drink and chips.)

So .... how is our walk-up ticket sales? I wonder why!
How is the trend in game day ticket sales? Athletics have made mistake after mistake in everything related to gaining attendance. Let's not forget STF's bright idea to move the homecoming game from early October where attendance was always the highest or second highest (next to opening day) to get people to attend the later games. Instead you still have a drop off in attendance in the later games, and now even home coming is not that great an attendance day.

If they lower NIU single game walkup tickets to dirt cheap then there is no sense in anyone buying season tickets for more per ticket. Why pay $85 for season tickets on East side or $132 for season tickets on West side when you could just buy single game tickets for $10 (or $60 for 6 games)?
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I watched the Buffalo/Coastal Carolina game on demand last night. They reported "ATTENDANCE: 16,739", doubt if I saw more than 7000-9000 in any shot during the game. We need to up our reporting by whatever method the neighbors are...
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RE: Comparative attendance
If everyone else is cheating on attendance reporting we should be too. Seems pretty simple.

For what it's worth, ticket demand for basically all entertainment events is down right now from what I'm seeing. NFL, concerts, NBA/NHL, etc.

Covid probably accelerated an already existing trend of less people being interested in in-person events.
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(09-23-2021 12:34 PM)epasnoopy Wrote:  
(09-23-2021 09:58 AM)chihuskie Wrote:  
(09-15-2021 03:39 PM)DiehardHuskie Wrote:  I went to the Illinois v Nebraska game a few weeks back. Tickets to that game were cheaper than west side reserved seats in HS. I bought tickets through the U of I website, not a broker.

Division leading Chicago White Sox tickets are available for $6 per ticket, or around $10 including fees.
But if one decides to walk up to watch the Huskies one has to shell out $23 per ticket. That's basically $100 bucks for a family of 4, and doesn't include hot dogs or cokes. For comparison, the Sox have family pack deal that for $15 includes game ticket, a hot dog, a drink and chips.)

So .... how is our walk-up ticket sales? I wonder why!
How is the trend in game day ticket sales? Athletics have made mistake after mistake in everything related to gaining attendance. Let's not forget STF's bright idea to move the homecoming game from early October where attendance was always the highest or second highest (next to opening day) to get people to attend the later games. Instead you still have a drop off in attendance in the later games, and now even home coming is not that great an attendance day.

If they lower NIU single game walkup tickets to dirt cheap then there is no sense in anyone buying season tickets for more per ticket. Why pay $85 for season tickets on East side or $132 for season tickets on West side when you could just buy single game tickets for $10 (or $60 for 6 games)?
'cuz you get a guaranteed seat location -- get to sit with multiple friends-- know the people around you -- parking perks, other perks, and just the knowledge that you are helping the program.

But at the end of the day, the ultimate goal is to win games. And to win games you need revenue to hire best coaches, fund recruiting, etc. So maximizing revenue is the intermediate goal. To earn that revenue you sell a product. The product that you are selling to gain revenue is intercollegiate athletics. Intercollegiate athletics is fan enthusiasm. Fan enthusiasm means fans at the venue. So, to win (ultimate goal) you need fans at the venue (immediate goal). So, who is assigned to accomplish the task of getting fans at the venue and how is that person doing?

Answer: I don't know who-- so by default, it's STF.

How is he doing? By any objective measure-- horribly.

He has made big mistakes since day one. And they continue. He is simply lost. I am not saying he is not trying or does not care. But he is arrogant, doesn't know the market, and doesn't seem to care a whole lot about the average fan, quite frankly. And that has contributed greatly to the decline in attendance.
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(09-23-2021 02:41 PM)clcfball11 Wrote:  If everyone else is cheating on attendance reporting we should be too. Seems pretty simple.

For what it's worth, ticket demand for basically all entertainment events is down right now from what I'm seeing. NFL, concerts, NBA/NHL, etc.

Covid probably accelerated an already existing trend of less people being interested in in-person events.
This is true. Years ago they made the event itself a TV show and in stadium fans were just background props. Remember when we would have to freeze our asses off (players and fans) waiting for a TV timeout to end---- and it went on and on ... but again, the landscape is what it is--- SFT needs to maximize our potential. He is not (in terms of garnering attendance.)
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(09-23-2021 02:46 PM)chihuskie Wrote:  
(09-23-2021 12:34 PM)epasnoopy Wrote:  
(09-23-2021 09:58 AM)chihuskie Wrote:  
(09-15-2021 03:39 PM)DiehardHuskie Wrote:  I went to the Illinois v Nebraska game a few weeks back. Tickets to that game were cheaper than west side reserved seats in HS. I bought tickets through the U of I website, not a broker.

Division leading Chicago White Sox tickets are available for $6 per ticket, or around $10 including fees.
But if one decides to walk up to watch the Huskies one has to shell out $23 per ticket. That's basically $100 bucks for a family of 4, and doesn't include hot dogs or cokes. For comparison, the Sox have family pack deal that for $15 includes game ticket, a hot dog, a drink and chips.)

So .... how is our walk-up ticket sales? I wonder why!
How is the trend in game day ticket sales? Athletics have made mistake after mistake in everything related to gaining attendance. Let's not forget STF's bright idea to move the homecoming game from early October where attendance was always the highest or second highest (next to opening day) to get people to attend the later games. Instead you still have a drop off in attendance in the later games, and now even home coming is not that great an attendance day.

If they lower NIU single game walkup tickets to dirt cheap then there is no sense in anyone buying season tickets for more per ticket. Why pay $85 for season tickets on East side or $132 for season tickets on West side when you could just buy single game tickets for $10 (or $60 for 6 games)?
'cuz you get a guaranteed seat location -- get to sit with multiple friends-- know the people around you -- parking perks, other perks, and just the knowledge that you are helping the program.

The entire east grandstands are general admission. You could buy 4 tickets at $10 each and sit next to your friends anyway. Or based on all the open seats on west side at Wyoming game you could do the same thing. Does anyone actually make sure people are sitting in the correct seats on the West side, except for maybe the chairback section?
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(09-23-2021 03:12 PM)epasnoopy Wrote:  
(09-23-2021 02:46 PM)chihuskie Wrote:  
(09-23-2021 12:34 PM)epasnoopy Wrote:  
(09-23-2021 09:58 AM)chihuskie Wrote:  
(09-15-2021 03:39 PM)DiehardHuskie Wrote:  I went to the Illinois v Nebraska game a few weeks back. Tickets to that game were cheaper than west side reserved seats in HS. I bought tickets through the U of I website, not a broker.

Division leading Chicago White Sox tickets are available for $6 per ticket, or around $10 including fees.
But if one decides to walk up to watch the Huskies one has to shell out $23 per ticket. That's basically $100 bucks for a family of 4, and doesn't include hot dogs or cokes. For comparison, the Sox have family pack deal that for $15 includes game ticket, a hot dog, a drink and chips.)

So .... how is our walk-up ticket sales? I wonder why!
How is the trend in game day ticket sales? Athletics have made mistake after mistake in everything related to gaining attendance. Let's not forget STF's bright idea to move the homecoming game from early October where attendance was always the highest or second highest (next to opening day) to get people to attend the later games. Instead you still have a drop off in attendance in the later games, and now even home coming is not that great an attendance day.

If they lower NIU single game walkup tickets to dirt cheap then there is no sense in anyone buying season tickets for more per ticket. Why pay $85 for season tickets on East side or $132 for season tickets on West side when you could just buy single game tickets for $10 (or $60 for 6 games)?
'cuz you get a guaranteed seat location -- get to sit with multiple friends-- know the people around you -- parking perks, other perks, and just the knowledge that you are helping the program.

The entire east grandstands are general admission. You could buy 4 tickets at $10 each and sit next to your friends anyway. Or based on all the open seats on west side at Wyoming game you could do the same thing. Does anyone actually make sure people are sitting in the correct seats on the West side, except for maybe the chairback section?

I sit in section B and this has been an issue for the last several years. I’ve mentioned it to the athletic department more than once and nothing is done. We were completely surrounded by Wyoming fans, including many sitting in our group’s 12 seats when we showed up,
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