(09-09-2021 09:21 PM)Side.Show.Joe Wrote:  

(09-09-2021 09:03 PM)topper1296 Wrote:  https://twitter.com/brett_mcmurphy/statu...11297?s=21

Quote:With upcoming moves w/in Group of 5 leagues,
@SunBelt
will be aggressive in pursuing new members & could grow its membership from 10 to 12 schools, sources told
@ActionNetworkHQ
. Last year
@SunBelt
was only Group of 5 league w/2 ranked teams in top 15 of final
@AP_Top25
poll

This appears to be like the AAC trying to pull from the Big12 after it was announced that Texas and OU would bolt. The remaining C-USA programs need to laugh at this, and poach the best Belt programs if more than 2 teams leave for the AAC.

Despite their recent success on the football field the Sun Belt is still not the equal of C-USA. From budgets to basketball, C-USA is still the better conference.

There's no doubt CUSA is the better CONFERENCE. Yes, the Sun Belt had a great pandemic football season but their basketball is in the toilet.

From a WKU Perspective, if ODU, Charlotte, UAB, LaTech, Marshall, and USM are poached by the AAC and the Sun Belt, I hope WKU's AD is on the phone with the MVC. The MVC has 10 members. Little Rock has been getting the stink eye from the Sun Belt about having no football so Little Rock is probably weighing their options too. If the MVC went to 12 basketball schools, they'd need to add two. Our football would just have to go Independent. It is what it is. The only trick is that the MVC has 5 private and 5 public so they'd likely want to stay even so WKU would need to help find another private to join. The Horizon league is another basketball league but I'm not sure that'd be an option. Nevertheless, it's been fun. I've enjoyed our time with most of the members of this league but my guess is Judy isn't going to save this league and we'll be left high and dry like we were when the Sun Belt was poached in 1991 of several marquee basketball teams and WKU, USA, and Jacksonville were left alone and had to merge with the American South to become the new Sun Belt.

Then again, I do believe in miracles so.....

Give me Charlotte, Marshall, App, Liberty, ODU, Coastal, Georgia St., Georgia Southern, FAU, FIU & ECU and I don’t care about the rest.

This conference includes four of the top ten football recruiting states. Coastal just had a major donor give a large sum, Liberty has plenty of money, it has Metro teams, mountain teams, a beach team, most teams have 3 teams within five hrs driving and the conference has great
baseball & basketball potential

(09-09-2021 09:27 PM)herdfan129 Wrote:  

(09-09-2021 09:20 PM)rileylives Wrote:  

(09-09-2021 09:16 PM)sdcritter Wrote:  I don't think the belt is waiting around on the AAC. There's been a lot of talk about Marshall in the east and USM in the west. I guess we all wait and see.

That will never, never happen. There's no way Marshall is just going to join the Sun Belt.

That would be a major step down for all of our sports.

Where would our soccer go? The Sunbelt does not care about basketball.

Soccer is definitely a big concern considering they don't even sponsor the sport.

Coastal, Ga So, and Ga St sponsor the sport though. We would make 4 teams. UK, WVU, USC could all switch their affiliations to the SBC I suppose.

I don't see us joining the SBC unless AAC takes ODU, Charlotte, WKU, FAU which would really leave us in a pickle in CUSA East.

I could be wrong of course, but I think we will need to wait and see what the AAC does first.

App would restart soccer. 5 is enough for a conference. We'd probably get a few associate members too from the MAC that would be falling apart .

Is Judy still alive? My goodness she is a worthless commissioner.

(09-09-2021 09:10 PM)UAB Schnauzer Wrote:  

(09-09-2021 09:08 PM)rileylives Wrote:  I definitely do not want Marshall to just up and join the Sunbelt.

i think their plan is to offer the best of whats left after the AAC makes their choice.

We have no intention of waiting. Keith Gil is no idiot. He sees the AAC as being incredibly weakened, and knows that with the right adds he could persuade his own membership to stay put, putting the SBC Into a position to challenge for the best G5 league

Lets be clear, every team in CUSA knows whether or not they are an AAC target right now.

(09-09-2021 09:35 PM)WKUApollo Wrote:  

(09-09-2021 09:21 PM)Side.Show.Joe Wrote:  

(09-09-2021 09:03 PM)topper1296 Wrote:  https://twitter.com/brett_mcmurphy/statu...11297?s=21

Quote:With upcoming moves w/in Group of 5 leagues,
@SunBelt
will be aggressive in pursuing new members & could grow its membership from 10 to 12 schools, sources told
@ActionNetworkHQ
. Last year
@SunBelt
was only Group of 5 league w/2 ranked teams in top 15 of final
@AP_Top25
poll

This appears to be like the AAC trying to pull from the Big12 after it was announced that Texas and OU would bolt. The remaining C-USA programs need to laugh at this, and poach the best Belt programs if more than 2 teams leave for the AAC.

Despite their recent success on the football field the Sun Belt is still not the equal of C-USA. From budgets to basketball, C-USA is still the better conference.

There's no doubt CUSA is the better CONFERENCE. Yes, the Sun Belt had a great pandemic football season but their basketball is in the toilet.

From a WKU Perspective, if ODU, Charlotte, UAB, LaTech, Marshall, and LaTech are poached by the AAC and the Sun Belt, I hope WKU's AD is on the phone with the MVC. The MVC has 10 members. Little Rock has been getting the stink eye from the Sun Belt about having no football so Little Rock is probably weighing their options too. If the MVC went to 12 basketball schools, they'd need to add two. Our football would just have to go Independent. It is what it is. The only trick is that the MVC has 5 private and 5 public so they'd likely want to stay even so WKU would need to help find another private to join. The Horizon league is another basketball league but I'm not sure that'd be an option. Nevertheless, it's been fun. I've enjoyed our time with most of the members of this league but my guess is Judy isn't going to save this league and we'll be left high and dry like we were when the Sun Belt was poached in 1991 of several marquee basketball teams and WKU, USA, and Jacksonville were left alone and had to merge with the American South to become the new Sun Belt.

Then again, I do believe in miracles so.....

I'd love to see WKU bball in the MVC (or the A-10), but what to do with football...

(09-09-2021 09:12 PM)herdfan129 Wrote:  

(09-09-2021 09:10 PM)UAB Schnauzer Wrote:  

(09-09-2021 09:08 PM)rileylives Wrote:  I definitely do not want Marshall to just up and join the Sunbelt.

i think their plan is to offer the best of whats left after the AAC makes their choice.

That's what I think as well. Depending on who the AAC invites and who else is invited to the Sun Belt then I would strongly consider this as a Marshall fan.

There was a rumor a week or so ago about the Sun Belt commissioner being in Huntington, which at the time seemed a little crazy (why would he be in Huntington?) Now I'm wondering if it was true, and I will say the rumor came from one of our pay boards and came from what I consider the most reputable Marshall poster out there.

I’m pretty positive it wasn’t true. I’ve been talking to the AState president, he’s been coy about it all and his response to the tweet was we are always looking for the right schools if there is opportunity.

(09-09-2021 09:51 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  Lets be clear, every team in CUSA knows whether or not they are an AAC target right now.

Even if their message board fans are clueless.

(09-09-2021 09:35 PM)WKUApollo Wrote:  

(09-09-2021 09:21 PM)Side.Show.Joe Wrote:  

(09-09-2021 09:03 PM)topper1296 Wrote:  https://twitter.com/brett_mcmurphy/statu...11297?s=21

Quote:With upcoming moves w/in Group of 5 leagues,
@SunBelt
will be aggressive in pursuing new members & could grow its membership from 10 to 12 schools, sources told
@ActionNetworkHQ
. Last year
@SunBelt
was only Group of 5 league w/2 ranked teams in top 15 of final
@AP_Top25
poll

This appears to be like the AAC trying to pull from the Big12 after it was announced that Texas and OU would bolt. The remaining C-USA programs need to laugh at this, and poach the best Belt programs if more than 2 teams leave for the AAC.

Despite their recent success on the football field the Sun Belt is still not the equal of C-USA. From budgets to basketball, C-USA is still the better conference.

There's no doubt CUSA is the better CONFERENCE. Yes, the Sun Belt had a great pandemic football season but their basketball is in the toilet.

From a WKU Perspective, if ODU, Charlotte, UAB, LaTech, Marshall, and USM are poached by the AAC and the Sun Belt, I hope WKU's AD is on the phone with the MVC. The MVC has 10 members. Little Rock has been getting the stink eye from the Sun Belt about having no football so Little Rock is probably weighing their options too. If the MVC went to 12 basketball schools, they'd need to add two. Our football would just have to go Independent. It is what it is. The only trick is that the MVC has 5 private and 5 public so they'd likely want to stay even so WKU would need to help find another private to join. The Horizon league is another basketball league but I'm not sure that'd be an option. Nevertheless, it's been fun. I've enjoyed our time with most of the members of this league but my guess is Judy isn't going to save this league and we'll be left high and dry like we were when the Sun Belt was poached in 1991 of several marquee basketball teams and WKU, USA, and Jacksonville were left alone and had to merge with the American South to become the new Sun Belt.

Then again, I do believe in miracles so.....

Both Little Rock and UTA are likely to move at some point in the near future. They'd be gone tomorrow for the right invite.

SBC Will not force either to leave, but we've made it clear that if App and Coastal are playing football the same day LR is playing Texas in basketball, the App/CCU game is getting the league's marketing reach.

(09-09-2021 09:36 PM)Yosef Himself Wrote:  

(09-09-2021 09:27 PM)herdfan129 Wrote:  

(09-09-2021 09:20 PM)rileylives Wrote:  

(09-09-2021 09:16 PM)sdcritter Wrote:  I don't think the belt is waiting around on the AAC. There's been a lot of talk about Marshall in the east and USM in the west. I guess we all wait and see.

That will never, never happen. There's no way Marshall is just going to join the Sun Belt.

That would be a major step down for all of our sports.

Where would our soccer go? The Sunbelt does not care about basketball.

Soccer is definitely a big concern considering they don't even sponsor the sport.

Coastal, Ga So, and Ga St sponsor the sport though. We would make 4 teams. UK, WVU, USC could all switch their affiliations to the SBC I suppose.

I don't see us joining the SBC unless AAC takes ODU, Charlotte, WKU, FAU which would really leave us in a pickle in CUSA East.

I could be wrong of course, but I think we will need to wait and see what the AAC does first.

App would restart soccer. 5 is enough for a conference. We'd probably get a few associate members too from the MAC that would be falling apart .

If there is a CUSA soccer after the spinning stops, my guess is CUSA would want to keep the defending national champions and a top 10 soccer program even as an affiliate. But then again we are talking about Judy.

(09-09-2021 09:57 PM)UAB Band Dad Wrote:  

(09-09-2021 09:51 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  Lets be clear, every team in CUSA knows whether or not they are an AAC target right now.

Even if their message board fans are clueless.

Don’t talk about rileylives like that

(09-09-2021 09:15 PM)All4One Wrote:  While football accounts for a large slice of pie of the driving force in expansion, it is not the only driving force. The Sun Belt knows this, which is why they are trying to use their COVID football season success as a selling point.

Covid season success?

Four of the past five seasons the Sun Belt garnered more from the CFP than CUSA based on the performance bonus.

https://businessofcollegesports.com/coll...f-payouts/

(09-09-2021 09:57 PM)UAB Band Dad Wrote:  

(09-09-2021 09:51 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  Lets be clear, every team in CUSA knows whether or not they are an AAC target right now.

Even if their message board fans are clueless.

Yep. We've got some crazies on our board who actually think we have a chance in hades at the AAC because we have Memphis old AD.

Meanwhile, UAB probably has a marketing team that's working on a promotion in case they "happened" to join another conference at some point.

(09-09-2021 09:35 PM)WKUApollo Wrote:  There's no doubt CUSA is the better CONFERENCE.

I think CUSA definitely has a better collection of individual schools. Our current conference leadership is outright inept, our geography is worse, our media deals have been inexplicable, and we have no unifying identity or strategy.

I honestly think at this point most of us are better off pursuing other avenues than staying together with this conference's leadership.

(09-09-2021 09:03 PM)topper1296 Wrote:  https://twitter.com/brett_mcmurphy/statu...11297?s=21

Quote:With upcoming moves w/in Group of 5 leagues,
@SunBelt
will be aggressive in pursuing new members & could grow its membership from 10 to 12 schools, sources told
@ActionNetworkHQ
. Last year
@SunBelt
was only Group of 5 league w/2 ranked teams in top 15 of final
@AP_Top25
poll

Marshall is interested.

(09-09-2021 10:07 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  

(09-09-2021 09:15 PM)All4One Wrote:  While football accounts for a large slice of pie of the driving force in expansion, it is not the only driving force. The Sun Belt knows this, which is why they are trying to use their COVID football season success as a selling point.

Covid season success?

Four of the past five seasons the Sun Belt garnered more from the CFP than CUSA based on the performance bonus.

https://businessofcollegesports.com/coll...f-payouts/

I wasn't comparing CUSA football to Sun Belt football. I was comparing the Sun Belt's one season of having Top 25 teams happening when there were many canceled games among Power Conference schools due to COVID. I also said that football is not the only driving factor in expansion.

(09-09-2021 09:58 PM)iStoopify Wrote:  

(09-09-2021 09:57 PM)UAB Band Dad Wrote:  

(09-09-2021 09:51 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  Lets be clear, every team in CUSA knows whether or not they are an AAC target right now.

Even if their message board fans are clueless.

Don’t talk about rileylives like that

Dude, what the f*** is your problem? I went to your board to discuss the exact same points I've always said here, which is that our president has said a realignment on regional affiliation is what we're looking for.

The Sun Belt conference fans can suck a ****.

And anyone that knows me here knows I'm a super reasonable poster, can't have that conversation there, nope...

(09-09-2021 09:35 PM)WKUApollo Wrote:  

(09-09-2021 09:21 PM)Side.Show.Joe Wrote:  

(09-09-2021 09:03 PM)topper1296 Wrote:  https://twitter.com/brett_mcmurphy/statu...11297?s=21

Quote:With upcoming moves w/in Group of 5 leagues,
@SunBelt
will be aggressive in pursuing new members & could grow its membership from 10 to 12 schools, sources told
@ActionNetworkHQ
. Last year
@SunBelt
was only Group of 5 league w/2 ranked teams in top 15 of final
@AP_Top25
poll

This appears to be like the AAC trying to pull from the Big12 after it was announced that Texas and OU would bolt. The remaining C-USA programs need to laugh at this, and poach the best Belt programs if more than 2 teams leave for the AAC.

Despite their recent success on the football field the Sun Belt is still not the equal of C-USA. From budgets to basketball, C-USA is still the better conference.

There's no doubt CUSA is the better CONFERENCE. Yes, the Sun Belt had a great pandemic football season but their basketball is in the toilet.

From a WKU Perspective, if ODU, Charlotte, UAB, LaTech, Marshall, and USM are poached by the AAC and the Sun Belt, I hope WKU's AD is on the phone with the MVC. The MVC has 10 members. Little Rock has been getting the stink eye from the Sun Belt about having no football so Little Rock is probably weighing their options too. If the MVC went to 12 basketball schools, they'd need to add two. Our football would just have to go Independent. It is what it is. The only trick is that the MVC has 5 private and 5 public so they'd likely want to stay even so WKU would need to help find another private to join. The Horizon league is another basketball league but I'm not sure that'd be an option. Nevertheless, it's been fun. I've enjoyed our time with most of the members of this league but my guess is Judy isn't going to save this league and we'll be left high and dry like we were when the Sun Belt was poached in 1991 of several marquee basketball teams and WKU, USA, and Jacksonville were left alone and had to merge with the American South to become the new Sun Belt.

Then again, I do believe in miracles so.....

God no... This is a terrible idea, and would be the death blow for our football program.

(09-09-2021 09:53 PM)topper1296 Wrote:  

(09-09-2021 09:35 PM)WKUApollo Wrote:  

(09-09-2021 09:21 PM)Side.Show.Joe Wrote:  

(09-09-2021 09:03 PM)topper1296 Wrote:  https://twitter.com/brett_mcmurphy/statu...11297?s=21

Quote:With upcoming moves w/in Group of 5 leagues,
@SunBelt
will be aggressive in pursuing new members & could grow its membership from 10 to 12 schools, sources told
@ActionNetworkHQ
. Last year
@SunBelt
was only Group of 5 league w/2 ranked teams in top 15 of final
@AP_Top25
poll

This appears to be like the AAC trying to pull from the Big12 after it was announced that Texas and OU would bolt. The remaining C-USA programs need to laugh at this, and poach the best Belt programs if more than 2 teams leave for the AAC.

Despite their recent success on the football field the Sun Belt is still not the equal of C-USA. From budgets to basketball, C-USA is still the better conference.

There's no doubt CUSA is the better CONFERENCE. Yes, the Sun Belt had a great pandemic football season but their basketball is in the toilet.

From a WKU Perspective, if ODU, Charlotte, UAB, LaTech, Marshall, and LaTech are poached by the AAC and the Sun Belt, I hope WKU's AD is on the phone with the MVC. The MVC has 10 members. Little Rock has been getting the stink eye from the Sun Belt about having no football so Little Rock is probably weighing their options too. If the MVC went to 12 basketball schools, they'd need to add two. Our football would just have to go Independent. It is what it is. The only trick is that the MVC has 5 private and 5 public so they'd likely want to stay even so WKU would need to help find another private to join. The Horizon league is another basketball league but I'm not sure that'd be an option. Nevertheless, it's been fun. I've enjoyed our time with most of the members of this league but my guess is Judy isn't going to save this league and we'll be left high and dry like we were when the Sun Belt was poached in 1991 of several marquee basketball teams and WKU, USA, and Jacksonville were left alone and had to merge with the American South to become the new Sun Belt.

Then again, I do believe in miracles so.....

I'd love to see WKU bball in the MVC (or the A-10), but what to do with football...

I guess there might be a chance the MAC would take us in. There were rumors several years ago about WKU to the MAC. Not sure they'd want us either tho.

This is ridiculous. Some of you fellow C-USA guys have gone nuts. Use your head for something besides a hat rack!! Joining the Sun Belt just because you don't like the commish? Playing football on Tuesday or Wednesday nights (even though only once or twice a season). Signing up for a LONNGG term deal where espn owns your soul for not much more than we make now.

The SBC is just POSTURING (if this report is true). Sure hope our presidents and AD's have more moxie than some posters here.

No I don't have a perfect, quick solution-- but I can assure you running to the SBC like a bunch of scared little girls is not the answer.