Just a quick ncaa rule check- anything above the face mask is considered the “crown”. And defenseless is someone who, oddly enough, has no ability to protect themselves from the defender. Targeting also doesn’t have to be helmet2helmet but anything above the shoulder.

I don’t think he was defenseless. Very close but I think he had ability to turn at the last second. But targeting by rule IMO should have been called. Definite “crown” Contact above the shoulder.

(09-03-2021 10:30 AM)Rabid Squirrel Wrote:  Just a quick ncaa rule check- anything above the face mask is considered the “crown”. And defenseless is someone who, oddly enough, has no ability to protect themselves from the defender. Targeting also doesn’t have to be helmet2helmet but anything above the shoulder.

I don’t think he was defenseless. Very close but I think he had ability to turn at the last second. But targeting by rule IMO should have been called. Definite “crown” Contact above the shoulder.

The side of his helmet hit the guy in the back of the helmet (or neck.) It appears to be the debate was forceful contact with the crown.

In my mind, he was taking steps, saw the defender, lowered his head. He wasn't defenseless.

They need to do a better job of writing rules. It's like anything with laws, rules, etc. A lawyer someone can find a loophole.

(09-03-2021 11:22 AM)BigChilla Wrote:  

(09-03-2021 10:30 AM)Rabid Squirrel Wrote:  Just a quick ncaa rule check- anything above the face mask is considered the “crown”. And defenseless is someone who, oddly enough, has no ability to protect themselves from the defender. Targeting also doesn’t have to be helmet2helmet but anything above the shoulder.

I don’t think he was defenseless. Very close but I think he had ability to turn at the last second. But targeting by rule IMO should have been called. Definite “crown” Contact above the shoulder.

The side of his helmet hit the guy in the back of the helmet (or neck.) It appears to be the debate was forceful contact with the crown.

In my mind, he was taking steps, saw the defender, lowered his head. He wasn't defenseless.

They need to do a better job of writing rules. It's like anything with laws, rules, etc. A lawyer someone can find a loophole.

I thought the point the broadcasters made was spot on. Change the rules to get rid of the ejections and missing first half of next game, unless it is something really egregious. Then you throw the 15 yd flag on that hit as "unnecessary" and move on....

The biggest outcome of the no-call was the change of possession. That was huge and ended any chance of a come back(probably no chance anyway, but still). You don’t get knocked out without banging helmets. IMO it should have been incidental contact to the head. Personal foul added on to the catch. Minnesota retains possession and the defender only gets a standard personal foul, no suspension. The suspension stuff should be for launching.

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A defenseless player got hit in the head, it’s textbook targeting. It also probably didn’t matter anyways, but yeah.

(09-03-2021 01:35 PM)7 Wrote:  A defenseless player got hit in the head, it’s textbook targeting. It also probably didn’t matter anyways, but yeah.

The real winner in all this; me. After 10 years I finally figured out how to add a photo to my posts. Annoyance level for everyone else at a full 10 now.

(09-03-2021 01:38 PM)Rabid Squirrel Wrote:  

(09-03-2021 01:35 PM)7 Wrote:  A defenseless player got hit in the head, it’s textbook targeting. It also probably didn’t matter anyways, but yeah.

The real winner in all this; me. After 10 years I finally figured out how to add a photo to my posts. Annoyance level for everyone else at a full 10 now.

Look I won $$$ on Ohio State yesterday - so there are multiple winners here.

Nice job with the pictures. Looking forward to a portfolio of images!

A couple of the Friday games:

#10 UNC vs Virginia Tech: ESPN
Michigan State at Northwestern: ESPN

MAC Game:
St. Francis @ EMU: ESPN8 The Ocho - Game of the Week

(09-03-2021 11:22 AM)BigChilla Wrote:  

(09-03-2021 10:30 AM)Rabid Squirrel Wrote:  Just a quick ncaa rule check- anything above the face mask is considered the “crown”. And defenseless is someone who, oddly enough, has no ability to protect themselves from the defender. Targeting also doesn’t have to be helmet2helmet but anything above the shoulder.

I don’t think he was defenseless. Very close but I think he had ability to turn at the last second. But targeting by rule IMO should have been called. Definite “crown” Contact above the shoulder.

The side of his helmet hit the guy in the back of the helmet (or neck.) It appears to be the debate was forceful contact with the crown.

In my mind, he was taking steps, saw the defender, lowered his head. He wasn't defenseless.

They need to do a better job of writing rules. It's like anything with laws, rules, etc. A lawyer someone can find a loophole.

I could see the call going either way. I'm OK with the no call. What I'm not OK with the guys in the booth completely abandoning calling the game. They spent a good 5 minutes doing nothing but spouting their opinions. If I were the shows producer, I would have muted the one guy's Mic.

South Dakota State @ Colorado State ... FCS Jackrabbits 28-10 in the 3rd. Not going to follow to the end but ... holy donuts!

Michigan State looks really good tonight vs Northwestern. I really hope the QB wasn’t the main reason they were so bad last year...

(09-03-2021 11:23 PM)HuskieTap22 Wrote:  Michigan State looks really good tonight vs Northwestern. I really hope the QB wasn’t the main reason they were so bad last year...

Thorne played last year too, and his #'s mirrored Lombardi's almost exactly. The difference in the game tonight was that transfer running back.

(09-03-2021 11:54 PM)TXHuskieJA26 Wrote:  

(09-03-2021 11:23 PM)HuskieTap22 Wrote:  Michigan State looks really good tonight vs Northwestern. I really hope the QB wasn’t the main reason they were so bad last year...

Thorne played last year too, and his #'s mirrored Lombardi's almost exactly. The difference in the game tonight was that transfer running back.

Yup. They run a "pro style"...whatever that is anymore...and those simply do not work without a solid back and O-Line.

It's not a QB friendly system without any kind of running game.

Big slate of games today.

Temple @ Rutgers: Big Ten Network
#19 Penn State @ #12 Wisconsin: Fox
#1 Alabama @ #14 Miami: ABC
#23 Louisiana @ #21 Texas: Fox
#5 Georgia @ #3 Clemson: ABC

MAC Games:
Western Michigan @ Michigan: ESPN
Miami (OH) @ #8 Cincinnati: ESPN+
Central Michigan @ Missouri: SEC Network
Syracuse @ Ohio: CBS Sports
Norfolk State @ Toledo: ESPN3
Akron @ Auburn: ESPN+
NIU @ Georgia Tech: ACC Network
Kent State @ #6 Texas A&M: ESPNU

So many good games to watch today but so far I'm not enjoying it because I just want it to be 6:30 already!!!!

WMU is more than holding their own against Michigan. Maybe it’s a week 1 thing or maybe we have a good shot at stealing one in the big house sept 18th.

Hot Rod and Temple getting absolutely smoked.

Rod getting a nice pounding from the mighty Rutgers. Looks like his system hasn’t been working the greatest in Philly as they were pretty good when he took over and slowly gone down.

Anyone actually watching the Temple game?? How many times have they run QB power on 3rd and long for no gain so far?? 4? 5? Don't worry Temple fans!! It's bound to work on attempt # 9 or 10!! Right!?