School announced today they are partnering with CSS to analyze their future options when it comes to conference membership.

https://twitter.com/TDARaginCajuns/statu...5808296962

One doesn't do this if they think the Committee is going to tell them their current conference situation is the best.

Making room for a add from CUSA?

I’m not advocating for the Mavericks to leave, but for them to not play football, we aren’t getting a big return from them on the hardwood.

What does UTA do for the league exactly other than provide Texas State a travel partner? No offense to the mavericks.

Ok bye. Will Little Rock follow?

I have one and only one objection to UTA.

Years ago around the time WAC raided a committee was put together to establish criteria for improving the league and for membership.

One of those items set forth was no more non-football would be added. Another was each member would sponsor a minimum of 15 sports in the Sun Belt. Now UTA has stepped up and hit that target while UALR has gone from 14 to 13 since dropping women’s tennis.

UTA shouldn’t have been invited but the presidents did that so here we are, they’ve certainly done nothing warranting being pushed out and shouldn’t be pushed out.

My guess is UTA is being courted by the Valley. Departure will cost $2 million and there is presumably an entry fee and broader travel and the leadership at UTA needs to get the study done before going to the Board of Trustees for the UT system to ask permission

This could be why we've been in touch with Marshall, because UTA may have one foot out the door.

(09-02-2021 06:40 PM)EigenEagle Wrote:  This could be why we've been in touch with Marshall, because UTA may have one foot out the door.

I'm sure everyone would rather UTA over Marshall.... Not

Unless we do boot Little rock out gotta think we’d replace the mavs to mantain balance in the olympic sports right?

(09-02-2021 06:53 PM)RamblinRedWolf Wrote:  Unless we do boot Little rock out gotta think we’d replace the mavs to mantain balance in the olympic sports right?

There's no need to balance Olympic Sports.

UTA and the administration engaged CSS before covid and before President Karbhari resigned under a cloud of scandal. At the time of their very public introductory meeting, the purpose laid out for CSS was to evaluate the campus, facilities and sports infrastructure at Arlington so as to make educated estimates as to the costs and feasibility of bringing back football, plus whatever women's sports would be required under Title IX.

Recent announcements about UTA and CSS merely reflect that perhaps at long last, the process is resuming, as UTA is looking to hire a new president.

I get it that some of you are losing patience while UTA dithers. Most of us that care about UTA share your frustration. But I think it wasn't so long ago that South and Georgia State were not playing Football. We really hope soon to get some movement in a positive direction.

I can't imagine any advantage that would accrue to UTA if we were to move to another conference.

If that’s the case and y’all decide to add football I’m all on my board

(09-02-2021 10:05 PM)wewererebels Wrote:  UTA and the administration engaged CSS before covid and before President Karbhari resigned under a cloud of scandal. At the time of their very public introductory meeting, the purpose laid out for CSS was to evaluate the campus, facilities and sports infrastructure at Arlington so as to make educated estimates as to the costs and feasibility of bringing back football, plus whatever women's sports would be required under Title IX.

Recent announcements about UTA and CSS merely reflect that perhaps at long last, the process is resuming, as UTA is looking to hire a new president.

I get it that some of you are losing patience while UTA dithers. Most of us that care about UTA share your frustration. But I think it wasn't so long ago that South and Georgia State were not playing Football. We really hope soon to get some movement in a positive direction.

I can't imagine any advantage that would accrue to UTA if we were to move to another conference.

I’m indifferent towards you starting football - but in the meantime, be really good at basketball. I would expect UTA and LR to dominate at hoops since you have no football.

would be sad to see them go. feels like UTA is our only counterpart school in the Belt in terms of school profile and identity.

I understand why though. Being a basketball school at SBC can be frustrating.

Doesn't matter if you schedule and win Q1 and Q2 OOC games. many belt conference games are basically considered Q4 games.

a bad game or two in this league absolutely kills you in the ranking from top NET 100.

even if you maintain "greatness" all season, conference title became meaningless in an one-bid league. a fluky team can steal everything from you in the tournament, erasing 5-6 months of great season.

How to fix it? no idea. just trying to empathize why they wouldn't be happy with the status quo.

(09-02-2021 10:18 PM)GSUALUM17 Wrote:  would be sad to see them go. feels like UTA is our only counterpart school in the Belt in terms of school profile and identity.

I understand why though. Being a basketball school at SBC can be frustrating.

Doesn't matter if you schedule and win Q1 and Q2 OOC games. many belt conference games are basically considered Q4 games.

a bad game or two in this league absolutely kills you in the ranking from top NET 100.

even if you maintain "greatness" all season, conference title became meaningless in an one-bid league. a fluky team can steal everything from you in the tournament, erasing 5-6 months of great season.

How to fix it? no idea. just trying to empathize why they wouldn't be happy with the status quo.

Let’s not pretend the Mavericks are worldbeaters and being held back by the SBC. Just for reference, here is UTA’s Sun Belt record in basketball (most recent at top):

9-8
10-10
12-6
10-8
14-4
13-7
10-10
9-9

(09-02-2021 10:05 PM)wewererebels Wrote:  UTA and the administration engaged CSS before covid and before President Karbhari resigned under a cloud of scandal. At the time of their very public introductory meeting, the purpose laid out for CSS was to evaluate the campus, facilities and sports infrastructure at Arlington so as to make educated estimates as to the costs and feasibility of bringing back football, plus whatever women's sports would be required under Title IX.

Recent announcements about UTA and CSS merely reflect that perhaps at long last, the process is resuming, as UTA is looking to hire a new president.

I get it that some of you are losing patience while UTA dithers. Most of us that care about UTA share your frustration. But I think it wasn't so long ago that South and Georgia State were not playing Football. We really hope soon to get some movement in a positive direction.

I can't imagine any advantage that would accrue to UTA if we were to move to another conference.

My read is the committee is going to lay it out as thus for you guys:

Stay in the Sun Belt and start a football program, or maintain status quo and move to the MVC.

(09-02-2021 11:15 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(09-02-2021 10:05 PM)wewererebels Wrote:  UTA and the administration engaged CSS before covid and before President Karbhari resigned under a cloud of scandal. At the time of their very public introductory meeting, the purpose laid out for CSS was to evaluate the campus, facilities and sports infrastructure at Arlington so as to make educated estimates as to the costs and feasibility of bringing back football, plus whatever women's sports would be required under Title IX.

Recent announcements about UTA and CSS merely reflect that perhaps at long last, the process is resuming, as UTA is looking to hire a new president.

I get it that some of you are losing patience while UTA dithers. Most of us that care about UTA share your frustration. But I think it wasn't so long ago that South and Georgia State were not playing Football. We really hope soon to get some movement in a positive direction.

I can't imagine any advantage that would accrue to UTA if we were to move to another conference.

My read is the committee is going to lay it out as thus for you guys:

Stay in the Sun Belt and start a football program, or maintain status quo and move to the MVC.

a lot will depend on who they hire as the new president. the last few have not been very sport motivated but now that they have reached tier one status they may be willing to focus a little more on their sports offerings. It certainly has been pretty galling over the years to see several schools I consider cheesey just decide one day "let's start a football team" and bada boom bada bing they do it while over in Arlington they mull this over year after year.

(09-02-2021 11:15 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(09-02-2021 10:05 PM)wewererebels Wrote:  UTA and the administration engaged CSS before covid and before President Karbhari resigned under a cloud of scandal. At the time of their very public introductory meeting, the purpose laid out for CSS was to evaluate the campus, facilities and sports infrastructure at Arlington so as to make educated estimates as to the costs and feasibility of bringing back football, plus whatever women's sports would be required under Title IX.

Recent announcements about UTA and CSS merely reflect that perhaps at long last, the process is resuming, as UTA is looking to hire a new president.

I get it that some of you are losing patience while UTA dithers. Most of us that care about UTA share your frustration. But I think it wasn't so long ago that South and Georgia State were not playing Football. We really hope soon to get some movement in a positive direction.

I can't imagine any advantage that would accrue to UTA if we were to move to another conference.

My read is the committee is going to lay it out as thus for you guys:

Stay in the Sun Belt and start a football program, or maintain status quo and move to the MVC.

I am in agreement here. And I do think LR is a part of this as far as the MVC is concerned. I've been saying we won't add new members but if these two leave I do expect us to expand by two.

I DO believe the number of teams in olympic sports matter. When you start traveling another half dozen sports for conference, it just makes more sense to have travel partners. You can survive without it, but I'm telling you now, coaches will really be pushing for it.

(09-02-2021 07:21 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(09-02-2021 06:53 PM)RamblinRedWolf Wrote:  Unless we do boot Little rock out gotta think we’d replace the mavs to mantain balance in the olympic sports right?

There's no need to balance Olympic Sports.

Talked to my buddy who works for Little Rock he told me they want out of the belt ("I know LR (admin) hates Sun Belt. Scheduling and promotion sucks-unless its astate or uca no one cares about other belt schools")

(09-03-2021 08:10 AM)RamblinRedWolf Wrote:  

(09-02-2021 07:21 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(09-02-2021 06:53 PM)RamblinRedWolf Wrote:  Unless we do boot Little rock out gotta think we’d replace the mavs to mantain balance in the olympic sports right?

There's no need to balance Olympic Sports.

Talked to my buddy who works for Little Rock he told me they want out of the belt ("I know LR (admin) hates Sun Belt. Scheduling and promotion sucks-unless its astate or uca no one cares about other belt schools")

Please, no offense. But I forget UALR and UTA are even in this conference. Until we are playing them.