ACC announced moving games. I hope the CAA follows suit. They said originally their would be forfeits due to all the ducking last season. I hope the league changes its tune, otherwise we should be prepared for a bunch of forfeits through the league

I'm actually surprised that there were so many CAA games played yesterday. Hopefully the Drexel players can get their Lysol injections over Christmas weekend so they can kill their Covid and get back to full strength by Wednesday.

All kidding aside, I'm not sure how games can be rescheduled since there's little to no room in the schedule to do so. I'm starting to think that this seasons will start looking a lot like last season where they just cancel games and seed the tournament teams with what they've got. Only 2 teams this year will have to play an extra game in the CAA Tournament anyway.

Obscure observation... Interesting game day process change I've noticed, that has to be related to COVID, is that you do not see the usual floor mops being used. Instead, when the floor needs to be wiped down towels are being used. I wonder if the towels are being swapped out after every use?

(12-23-2021 08:46 AM)dan10 Wrote:  ACC announced moving games. I hope the CAA follows suit. They said originally their would be forfeits due to all the ducking last season. I hope the league changes its tune, otherwise we should be prepared for a bunch of forfeits through the league

The CAA site doesn't show any posting about BB cancellations. The FB information said if a game was cancelled the school that caused the cancellation would forfeit and a loss assigned. The opposing team would get the "W." If both teams were causing the cancellation then "no contest" would be assigned by the CAA. The NCAA would consider all cancellations as "no contest."

Be interesting to see if BB will be treated similarly by the CAA.

(12-23-2021 12:13 PM)Timer Wrote:  

(12-23-2021 08:46 AM)dan10 Wrote:  ACC announced moving games. I hope the CAA follows suit. They said originally their would be forfeits due to all the ducking last season. I hope the league changes its tune, otherwise we should be prepared for a bunch of forfeits through the league

The CAA site doesn't show any posting about BB cancellations. The FB information said if a game was cancelled the school that caused the cancellation would forfeit and a loss assigned. The opposing team would get the "W." If both teams were causing the cancellation then "no contest" would be assigned by the CAA. The NCAA would consider all cancellations as "no contest."

Be interesting to see if BB will be treated similarly by the CAA.

The problem here is that the science of the virus has changed so much since many of these rules were written. The reason why the NFL changed their stance of forcing forfeits is because it was assumed back in the summer that vaccinations would prevent positive Covid cases, and the forfeits would be a way to punish the unvaccinated. Now we're all learning that the vaccines just reduce the chances of severe illness and death, and that so many of the positive cases are among the vaccinated. Since players seem to be doing what they're supposed to be doing and still testing positive, I would think that the CAA and other leagues as well would ease their stance on forfeits, as long as most players are fully vaccinated.

I first thought that HiroshimaCarp's suggestion that they shut down sports until mid-January was a bit ridiculous and unrealistic. And while it's still unrealistic considering the amount of money and jobs that would be lost, the idea isn't so far fetched right now. I'll bet that the last two Eagles games alone must have resulted in tens of thousands of new infections in the Philadelphia region alone. Despite having some of the strictest rules in the country, Philadelphia County alone had 1,780 positive cases just yesterday. That's like one in every thousand residents in one day.


I feel like my family and I are living in a world of a game of virus dodge ball right now. We're still trying to live our life normally while trying to be smart, but not paranoid. I still plan to go to the DAC on Monday and Wednesday, with the expectation that there will only be a few hundred people at these games and plenty of room to be socially distant. We will make sure to keep at least 6 feet from everybody, even the regulars who I sit near show up.

it's bad right now. i worked a clinic monday night and had 3 covid positive patients out of 8 who were tested. patients aren't telling the front desk they have symptoms and wind up positive after they're nice enough to expose me and the nurses. their freedom ends where mine begins which is something not enough people understand. it would be nice if anybody understood the meaning of respect for anyone...let alone respecting medical professionals who are trying to take care of them.

you know our family likes to go to games. i think whatever god is in charge is trying to keep us shut down since everything is getting cancelled anyway. our potentials are penn state or phantoms hockey...but staying home to watch college football (assuming that happens) seems smarter every second.

if you're looking for something to watch...there is a massive sprint car race going on this week called the tulsa shootout. it's on floracing from like 10 am well into the evening. all the features are saturday night and they have 5-10 different classes of cars. they have like 1700 cars there for an INDOOR racing event. talk about a super spreader but that's how the racing community rolls.

I just read that Penn is now closing off all sporting events, including basketball games, to the general public until further notice. I'm really not sure what the purpose is of doing that. They can keep the spectators away from the players if they need to. The spread of the variant is so out of control right now as it is, as 99% of entertainment venues are still open. So closing the Palestra for fans won't really do any good. But in the copy culture that we're in now, it wouldn't shock me if Drexel follows suit.

Also, I see that Wednesday's home game against JMU has been rescheduled for Monday February 7th. But Monday's game against Towson is still on as scheduled for now.

(01-01-2022 09:47 PM)J.B. Wrote:  I just read that Penn is now closing off all sporting events, including basketball games, to the general public until further notice. I'm really not sure what the purpose is of doing that. They can keep the spectators away from the players if they need to. The spread of the variant is so out of control right now as it is, as 99% of entertainment venues are still open. So closing the Palestra for fans won't really do any good. But in the copy culture that we're in now, it wouldn't shock me if Drexel follows suit.

i wouldn't accuse drexel of "copy culture" if they take a public health measure. that phrase has a negative connotation. i do agree that the cat is out of the bag at this point. we're basically just playing through it in the us. the cost is going to show up this week when positive tests possibly become hospitalizations and then worse. hopefully the variant cases aren't as severe like some people are thinking.

(01-02-2022 04:12 PM)hiroshimacarp Wrote:  

(01-01-2022 09:47 PM)J.B. Wrote:  I just read that Penn is now closing off all sporting events, including basketball games, to the general public until further notice. I'm really not sure what the purpose is of doing that. They can keep the spectators away from the players if they need to. The spread of the variant is so out of control right now as it is, as 99% of entertainment venues are still open. So closing the Palestra for fans won't really do any good. But in the copy culture that we're in now, it wouldn't shock me if Drexel follows suit.

i wouldn't accuse drexel of "copy culture" if they take a public health measure. that phrase has a negative connotation. i do agree that the cat is out of the bag at this point. we're basically just playing through it in the us. the cost is going to show up this week when positive tests possibly become hospitalizations and then worse. hopefully the variant cases aren't as severe like some people are thinking.

Point is, if we can have weekend after weekend of packed stadiums for NFL games and college bowl games, then keeping 1,500 fans away from a few college basketball games is going to do absolutely nothing to stop this out of control variant. All we can hope is that hospitalizations are at a minimal, and by mid January, there will be enough anti-bodies in our bodies that the cases start to significantly diminish.

i'm with you. we've definitely chosen to ride this thing out and i'm not sure i disagree with that approach. i did all i could to vax people up in preparation for it. i didn't have a box full of hospital admission notifications this morning which was a relief. penn state health hospitals are filling up though and i'm sure it's similar in the philly area. we'll see what the next couple weeks brings.

Drexel Athletics has updated their Covid policies once again.

While not specifically stating it, it appears that they're saying goodbye to the Drexel Visitor Pass for sporting events. This was kind of worthless anyway. It did help me get into the DAC quickly because I was responsible enough to fill out the form and print the clearance in advance. But you'd see hundreds of people out in the freezing cold filling out forms to get through security. Anybody could lie on the Visitor Pass form just to get in, so it really served no purpose.

Now, Drexel will be following the city standard of requiring proof of vaccination and photo ID for entrance into the DAC. This is what they do at the Wells Fargo Center and city restaurants.

Concession will open back up again, but not until 2/14. They were obviously going to have to reopen them in time for the CAA WBB Tournament.

do you know for sure if they got rid of the visitor pass? i wasn't clear on that. they still had the link on the updated info...and the visitor pass web site still says it's required.

i agree it was pretty useless. i don't think they checked it at all one time...and it would be pretty easy to fake. i got really good at filling it out fast though.

(02-02-2022 01:32 PM)hiroshimacarp Wrote:  do you know for sure if they got rid of the visitor pass? i wasn't clear on that. they still had the link on the updated info...and the visitor pass web site still says it's required.

i agree it was pretty useless. i don't think they checked it at all one time...and it would be pretty easy to fake. i got really good at filling it out fast though.

They weren't clear, but Drexel was vague about their policies before. There's no city ordinance that a visitor pass questionnaire is required, so that would just be another "PITA" worthless Drexel policy if they still require it".

Philadelphia just announced today that they are no longer requiring proof of vaccination for getting into restaurants. Hopefully Drexel follows suit and removes the vaccination requirement. The Wells Fargo Center just removed it. Drexel already removed the Drexel Visitor Pass requirement last week. The security guards outside of the DAC have an important enough job of trying make sure nobody is bringing dangerous objects into the building. Forcing them to check health documents distracts them from what their real jobs should be.

Philadelphia dropped their indoor mask mandate today. It will be interesting to see how Drexel handles masks and vaccine cards for the CAA Tournament. Drexel fans (at least those of us who still show up) are used to Drexel's and Philadelphia's overly cautious Covid policies, while fans coming to the CAAT from other cities may not be.

Over the weekend, Drexel was still asking for vaccine cards outside of the DAC, even though they were no longer required by the city. We were not prepared to show them, but fortunately was still carrying them. The ushers were also very strict about mask wearing. Meanwhile at the Wells Fargo Center this weekend, barely anybody was wearing masks inside. I think you had to wear a mask to get inside, but the WFC was no longer checking vaccine cards.

i wouldn't call them overly restrictive. if anything they were a step behind since most things went into place after the new year when the surge was already on. it made me feel more comfortable coming down knowing some things were in place.

i'm at the point now where i don't even really pay attention to the changes. wearing a mask has worked for us so far and we have photos on our phones of our cards. that generally gets us in anywhere. i was a little nervous at delaware because they had a sign that said we needed to do a health screening which i hadn't done. it turned out to be a screening or proof of vaccination...so i didn't have to scramble to do something on my phone.

I'm just frustrated by the lack of consistency. I'm sure I mentioned that earlier. Like at Penn, they eliminated fan attendance and then when fans could come back, were requiring N-95 masks, something I refuse to wear. Meanwhile down at UNCW, while things were still really bad, there were 1,300 maskless students packed into a tiny student section. Fortunately, the numbers are coming down and the restrictions are going away...at least for now.

it's an interesting part of the pandemic because i think even the holdouts want to lift things like mask mandates. they probably can. after the last 2-3 months...everyone has either had covid, gotten vaccines, or both. just like there was inconsistency going into this...there will be inconsistency coming out.

i tell her we're just going to keep doing what we're doing. that has stayed consistent and also hasn't gotten us sick. we wear masks, try to sit by ourselves which we already did anyway, and we have our vaccines with cards. we've avoided avoided things that get really crowded. our first high school game was friday night and nobody was wearing a mask.

actually maybe the riskiest place we're going is the school musical tonight. it should be full and it's indoors. again...we're just going to do what we do and control what we can control.