XLance
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RE: Let's Revisit The 3 x 20:
(08-03-2021 05:11 PM)random asian guy Wrote: (08-02-2021 08:11 PM)XLance Wrote: (07-31-2021 11:17 PM)random asian guy Wrote: (07-31-2021 10:24 AM)XLance Wrote: (07-30-2021 08:42 PM)JRsec Wrote: a
Well, if you could stay with UVa and Duke in either which would you choose?
Actually JR, you had the teams right to begin with.
The problem is that you had the divisions all wrong
First off, I want to say that the ACC has been fighting an uphill battle since they missed out on trying to lure Penn State away from the B1G.
Once that attempt failed, the ACC became the "Turk" after his failed on his attempt to kill the Godfather. We were dead men walking.
The B1G caved into Paterno's demands for eastern teams. Paterno wanted Rutgers and Pitt, but got Rutgers and Maryland instead. This was enough to keep Penn State in check and the first nail in the coffin of the ACC.
The ACC could have survived and thrived with Penn State and Notre Dame and probably would have become a bigger earner that even the SEC.
Now the ACC with even a full time Notre Dame and any other Big 12 team only will prolong the inevitable. The ACC would always be playing from behind and never have the opportunity to be on equal footing with the B1G or the SEC. Plus, the biggest reason not to follow this path is that I don't believe that Notre Dame can be trusted.
When Texas and Oklahoma decided to take the money, the paradigm shifted, all of the games were over, and it has become the time to forget about pride and tradition and worry about survival.
To that end, Carolina should cozy up to the (I'm choking on the initials) SEC, but demand to control our own division.
JR, this is how I would see Carolina, Virginia Tech, Clemson, Kansas and Florida State fitting into the SEC:
Carolina, Virginia Tech, South Carolina, Georgia, Florida
Kansas, Missouri, Oklahoma, Arkansas, Texas
Texas A&M, LSU, Ole Miss, Mississippi State, Alabama
Florida State, Auburn, Clemson, Tennessee, Kentucky
Vanderbilt and Wake Forest as associates.
Wow weren’t you very optimistic about the ACC? This posting seems hopelessly pessimistic.
I, for one, think the ACC is just going to be fine.
There are rumors coming out of the B1G that suggest that the ACC is wooing Penn State again and that the Nittany Lions are listening.
Instead of looking at 3 X 20 what if instead you had 16, 18+1, and 20.
PAC 20
Ohio State, Michigan, Purdue, Indiana, Illinois, Michigan State, Northwestern, Wisconsin, Minnesota, Nebraska, Iowa, Colorado, Utah, Washington, Oregon, Stanford, Cal, USC, UCLA, Arizona.
ACC at 18+1
Miami, Florida State, Georgia Tech, Clemson, Wake Forest, NCSU, Duke, Carolina, UVa. VT, BC, Syracuse, Pitt, Louisville, Maryland, Rutgers, Penn State, West Virginia. Plus a partial Notre Dame.
SEC 16
Florida, Georgia, South Carolina, Auburn, Alabama, Ole Miss, MSU, Kentucky, Vanderbilt, Tennessee, Missouri, Arkansas, LSU, Texas, Texas A&M, Oklahoma.
PSU to the ACC would be awesome but I won’t hold my breath...
I think that ESPN is gearing up for the long haul.
They just invested a ton of money to land Texas and Oklahoma to make the SEC the premier conference for a long tome to come.
Would they invest another sum to elevate the ACC to be credible to be able to challenge The B1G for #2. Adding Penn State to the ACC could really take the air out of the B1G's ball. We'll see if the Mouse is willing to make the Lion an offer that can't be refused.
Whether the rumors about Penn State are true or not, I don't know, but if ESPN wants to truly control all of college football.......it's a move that needs to be considered.
If you couldn't get all three (Penn State, Maryland and Rutgers), Penn State and Cincinnati would certainly poke a stick into the B1G's eye.
This is an ESPN move, not an ACC move, without ESPN money and muscle it's beyond the realm of possibility.
(This post was last modified: 08-03-2021 08:00 PM by XLance.)
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