(07-25-2021 06:43 PM)Soobahk40050 Wrote: (07-25-2021 06:40 PM)JRsec Wrote: (07-25-2021 04:17 PM)Soobahk40050 Wrote: Texas and OK to the SEC sounds like a done deal, but mhver3, who admittedly is only a bit more believable than the Dude of WV suggests that Texas could back out in favor of the unequal revenue sharing model.
That model would give Texas 1.5 shares which equal about $56 million plus the LHN for a total of $71 million. Financial it makes sense.
Mhver3 suggests that and the political issues with a&m could stop them.
Again, let me be clear, I don't believe this at all.
But, if he is right, then OK is coming with or without Texas.
Which would still be huge for the SEC, just not as huge.
That being said, in that scenario, does the SEC take OK State? Do they take Kansas? Do they hold at 15?
Trust Sankey and ESPN
MHver3 hadn't made money off of BS fiction since 2012. IMO he, the Dude, and Fluguar are a cottage industry running on click bait. I visit OU and read Texas boards and those people are pumped. The rest is B12 and B10 schadenfreude and click hounds.
If the Houston Chronicle runs another story I'll listen, but citing trailor park trash as a source needs to stop. UT and OU are supposed to notify the Big 12 office tomorrow and the SEC may have some acknowledgement late morning.
The PAC 12 and Big 10 are backdooring last minute offers but these negotiations have been going on since December '19 and January '20 when ESPN was working our contract. So I'm content not to subsidize these ass clowns anymore and simply to watch the ESPN crawler since they have a vested interest. Besides Texas is obligated until 2031 to ESPN. If not the SEC or ACC they aren't going anywhere.
So relax, enjoy a cup of coffee watch the replay of NBA kneelers losing to the French!
Only thing I would say to this is didn't ESPN have Clemson/FSU to the SEc in their crawler?
I get that mhver3's Twitter post isn't worth anything.
Did you know the story behind that crawler incident?
In the 2010-2 cycle of realignment the SEC and ACC were both supposed to move to 16 members. The SECN was to open in the Fall in the following season and the ACCN was going to open the next year.
If you will recall there was a big push by John Pennington known as Mr. SEC and Clay Travis who was just a blogger at the time to sell SEC fans on the idea of adding N.C. State and Virginia Tech. They talked about new markets and how the population of Virginia and North Carolina would add so much revenue for the SECN.
And then there was DeLoss Dodds talking about Texas looking East.
Well it turns out Texas A&M was in the works and ESPN was pushing Missouri on the SEC because we were interested in OU and they were supposedly interested in us. So we started working on Missouri. Why?
We were supposed to get N.C. State and Virginia Tech and move to 16.
The ACC was supposed to get Texas, Oklahoma, Kansas, and Notre Dame, at least that is what I was told.
Maryland had not yet replied to B10 overtures.
Late in the game it was said that UNC/UVa/Duke/WF got cold feet. If Texas came in they figured that FSU and Clemson and Ga Tech would side with football first UT and OU and that BC, Pitt, Syracuse and Miami might vote with ND and since ND and UT were chummy they figured they would lose control of the ACC so they nixed the deal. A&M had accepted so Boren came to the SEC but wanted OSU in as well. We had A&M and ESPN was now down to just backing 2 since the deal was off so with the renegotiation clause in place we couldn't take OSU with OU even if we wanted to.
Missouri was in and they are fine so no problem there.
But once the ACC people found out they weren't getting an ACCN and that the huge pay increase from in incoming foursome wasn't materializing they pitched a fit. Maryland called the B10 because they were in financial issues and bang the panic started. Before our presidents even voted on A&M and Missouri we had UF's and SC's president pushing for Clemson and FSU because as things expanded they were afraid they might lose their donation game. So when the deal fell apart and Slive was pissed because we needed more content and had been promised more markets for the opening of the SECN he called ESPN and let 'er rip. ESPN gave approval allegedly to move on Clemson and FSU. So we did. I have a guy I know from another board whose uncle was an ACC football ref who came over and said it was over for the ACC that he had been told Clemson and FSU were headed to the SEC. A few nights later the crawler ran. Within 3 days approval from ESPN to make the move was supposedly rescinded. It seems ND had agreed to join partially but not if Clemson and FSU were gone. So ESPN was said to have offered the SEC full carriage for the launch of the SECN which they did honor in exchange for dropping the FSU/Clemson move. We did. But ever since they have worked more closely with us. GOR's went into effect in the B12 and then the ACC to hold what ESPN wanted in place.
Now we are getting UT and OU and I don't think ESPN will let anything screw this up. They've spent oodles fully waiting on Texas and FOX dropped the B12 CCG pissing off both OU and UT. FOX sold off the RSN carrying the Sooner Network, and the PAC just can't pay them or account for travel for non revenue sports and the B1G doesn't offer quality baseball or softball and sometimes weather delays the start of the seasons and again travel is too far for non revenue sports and then the capper for OU was the B10's handling of COVID when they started out canceling the football season.
So they either stay the course in a small conference with no upside or they join us. I seriously doubt they want to lock in at a deficit. But if they do we're still fine.
