The Big 8 is several levels above the AAC.

(07-23-2021 02:57 PM)Side.Show.Joe Wrote:  

(07-23-2021 02:51 PM)EarthBoundMisfit Wrote:  

(07-23-2021 02:02 PM)Side.Show.Joe Wrote:  

(07-23-2021 01:46 PM)pilot172000 Wrote:  West Virginia is not going to the Big10. Mizzou maybe.

BYU is not going to the Pac12, neither is any Christian school from Texas.

I could see West Virginia going to the ACC and Cincinnati going to the Big10. But, it would still be the same programs in play.

As for the PAC... Baylor, TCU, Rice, and BYU are the only academic universities that the PAC could entertain if they want to become a 16 team conference like the power conferences. The PAC just doesn't have many options. They will probably just stay at 12 and be excused from the emerging P3, with USC, Oregon, and maybe Washington making some national noise from time to time.

Ohio State would put a quick stop to Cinci joining the B1G. IF there were 4 schools remaining from the Big 12...they go to the conference with the biggest tv deal that will have them.
Outside of the current P4...that is the AAC.

Whatever remains of the Big12 will lure in new members. I don't see that conference going belly up. No they won't be a power conference anymore, but they will be the best of the outsiders. There is no good reason why the remaining members would agree to join an existing conference with some programs they feel are beneath them, when they can just invite the top programs from any G5 conference. The AAC isn't going to absorb the remains of the Big12.

No,no,no.
What kind of tv deal do you think the Big 12 has with just 4 schools?
NONE. Nada. Zilch.
Fox would cancel it faster than you can say "Don't do it".
So the 4 remaining schools, IF there are that many would not/could not be choosy.
They may feel they are beneath us now...but with $0 in tv revenue coming in...they are going to go after the best conference tv deal they can get. They would be in essence, knocked off their high horses.
It has happened before.
Once upon a time...in the SWC, schools such as Houston and SMU were considered power programs.
Now they are considered inferior to their former conference brethren, because of conference affiliation, and tv revenue.

(07-23-2021 03:05 PM)pilot172000 Wrote:  

(07-23-2021 02:51 PM)EarthBoundMisfit Wrote:  

(07-23-2021 02:02 PM)Side.Show.Joe Wrote:  

(07-23-2021 01:46 PM)pilot172000 Wrote:  West Virginia is not going to the Big10. Mizzou maybe.

BYU is not going to the Pac12, neither is any Christian school from Texas.

I could see West Virginia going to the ACC and Cincinnati going to the Big10. But, it would still be the same programs in play.

As for the PAC... Baylor, TCU, Rice, and BYU are the only academic universities that the PAC could entertain if they want to become a 16 team conference like the power conferences. The PAC just doesn't have many options. They will probably just stay at 12 and be excused from the emerging P3, with USC, Oregon, and maybe Washington making some national noise from time to time.

Ohio State would put a quick stop to Cinci joining the B1G. IF there were 4 schools remaining from the Big 12...they go to the conference with the biggest tv deal that will have them.
Outside of the current P4...that is the AAC.

I think that a Big12 minus OU-UT is on equal footing with the AAC. They could lure Boise and BYU or Houston to stabilize. With a 12 team playoff that takes 6 Conference Champs, its a safer bet to stay together right now. I could see WVU joining the AAC for convenience.

minus OU and UT...some schools have already reached out to the B1G, and PAC conferences.
The Big 12 will die if the big cash cows leave.
It's just a matter of who goes where.

(07-23-2021 04:49 PM)EarthBoundMisfit Wrote:  

(07-23-2021 03:05 PM)pilot172000 Wrote:  

(07-23-2021 02:51 PM)EarthBoundMisfit Wrote:  

(07-23-2021 02:02 PM)Side.Show.Joe Wrote:  

(07-23-2021 01:46 PM)pilot172000 Wrote:  West Virginia is not going to the Big10. Mizzou maybe.

BYU is not going to the Pac12, neither is any Christian school from Texas.

I could see West Virginia going to the ACC and Cincinnati going to the Big10. But, it would still be the same programs in play.

As for the PAC... Baylor, TCU, Rice, and BYU are the only academic universities that the PAC could entertain if they want to become a 16 team conference like the power conferences. The PAC just doesn't have many options. They will probably just stay at 12 and be excused from the emerging P3, with USC, Oregon, and maybe Washington making some national noise from time to time.

Ohio State would put a quick stop to Cinci joining the B1G. IF there were 4 schools remaining from the Big 12...they go to the conference with the biggest tv deal that will have them.
Outside of the current P4...that is the AAC.

I think that a Big12 minus OU-UT is on equal footing with the AAC. They could lure Boise and BYU or Houston to stabilize. With a 12 team playoff that takes 6 Conference Champs, its a safer bet to stay together right now. I could see WVU joining the AAC for convenience.

minus OU and UT...some schools have already reached out to the B1G, and PAC conferences.
The Big 12 will die if the big cash cows leave.
It's just a matter of who goes where.

Like I told a friend. I see your point, but I don't completely agree. We will know who is right anywhere between 6 months and 6 years. Texas and OU leaving will either be a huge advantage for the AAC or it will hurt them. With the 6 best Conference Champions going into the playoffs in a few years, it would be beneficial for the Big12 to add schools and stay together. It would also be beneficial for WVU to swap with UH and move to the AAC.

(07-23-2021 03:00 PM)HTOWN_HERD Wrote:  

(07-23-2021 02:56 PM)HerdZoned Wrote:  

(07-23-2021 02:02 PM)Side.Show.Joe Wrote:  I could see West Virginia going to the ACC and Cincinnati going to the Big10. But, it would still be the same programs in play.

How many times do people who know the situation have to tell you all that WVU will never be in the ACC. They have tried and the Triangle has laughed at them each time. It took pressure from Joe Manchin, Jay Rockefeller and the late Robert C Byrd just to get them a life boat to the B12.

They will never have the votes. Thats just the facts. The only way you would see them there is if ESPN told them to and well they add no monetary value to the ACC.

As far as the B10, that is hilarious. Marshall has a better shot at being the 33 member of the NFL first.

I get the hate for WVU, I really do. However, making statements like this will only backfire on us Marshall fans. I never thought they would get into the BIGXII either, but they did.

Gordon Gee has massive influence and their AD was the former ACC co-commissioner, they have more pull than you think. I would not put my money on them getting left out like everyone hopes.

If the ACC voted in Louisville, the same sex scandal, Bobby Petrino hooking up with intern, Rick Pinto paying for strippers and Abortions, Louisville that we all know, then I would think WVU would get a look if they are forced to expand to keep up.

The ACC took Louisville over WVU, that should tell you enough right there. Im just going with history, no hate in this. And the history is WVU has tried to get in the ACC at least 4 times. In 1987, right before the BE added football in 1991 (Both WVU and Miami applied, they took FL State), 2003 in the 1st realignment and in the 2nd realignment in 2011. They have never gotten out of the prelim stages.

It also took massive pressure from Joe Manchin, Jay Rockefeller and the late Robert C Byrd to pull strings to get them in the B12. Had those 3 not put any pressure on the B12 my guess is the B12 takes Cincy instead.

(07-23-2021 05:04 PM)HerdZoned Wrote:  

(07-23-2021 03:00 PM)HTOWN_HERD Wrote:  

(07-23-2021 02:56 PM)HerdZoned Wrote:  

(07-23-2021 02:02 PM)Side.Show.Joe Wrote:  I could see West Virginia going to the ACC and Cincinnati going to the Big10. But, it would still be the same programs in play.

How many times do people who know the situation have to tell you all that WVU will never be in the ACC. They have tried and the Triangle has laughed at them each time. It took pressure from Joe Manchin, Jay Rockefeller and the late Robert C Byrd just to get them a life boat to the B12.

They will never have the votes. Thats just the facts. The only way you would see them there is if ESPN told them to and well they add no monetary value to the ACC.

As far as the B10, that is hilarious. Marshall has a better shot at being the 33 member of the NFL first.

I get the hate for WVU, I really do. However, making statements like this will only backfire on us Marshall fans. I never thought they would get into the BIGXII either, but they did.

Gordon Gee has massive influence and their AD was the former ACC co-commissioner, they have more pull than you think. I would not put my money on them getting left out like everyone hopes.

If the ACC voted in Louisville, the same sex scandal, Bobby Petrino hooking up with intern, Rick Pinto paying for strippers and Abortions, Louisville that we all know, then I would think WVU would get a look if they are forced to expand to keep up.

The ACC took Louisville over WVU, that should tell you enough right there. Im just going with history, no hate in this. And the history is WVU has tried to get in the ACC at least 4 times. In 1987, right before the BE added football in 1991 (Both WVU and Miami applied, they took FL State), 2003 in the 1st realignment and in the 2nd realignment in 2011. They have never gotten out of the prelim stages.

It also took massive pressure from Joe Manchin, Jay Rockefeller and the late Robert C Byrd to pull strings to get them in the B12. Had those 3 not put any pressure on the B12 my guess is the B12 takes Cincy instead.

Ok, let me throw a wrench in things. What happens if Mizzou bolts for the Big10? Does WVU make a run at the SEC too? It wouldn't be a bad fit.

(07-23-2021 04:47 PM)EarthBoundMisfit Wrote:  

(07-23-2021 02:57 PM)Side.Show.Joe Wrote:  

(07-23-2021 02:51 PM)EarthBoundMisfit Wrote:  

(07-23-2021 02:02 PM)Side.Show.Joe Wrote:  

(07-23-2021 01:46 PM)pilot172000 Wrote:  West Virginia is not going to the Big10. Mizzou maybe.

BYU is not going to the Pac12, neither is any Christian school from Texas.

I could see West Virginia going to the ACC and Cincinnati going to the Big10. But, it would still be the same programs in play.

As for the PAC... Baylor, TCU, Rice, and BYU are the only academic universities that the PAC could entertain if they want to become a 16 team conference like the power conferences. The PAC just doesn't have many options. They will probably just stay at 12 and be excused from the emerging P3, with USC, Oregon, and maybe Washington making some national noise from time to time.

Ohio State would put a quick stop to Cinci joining the B1G. IF there were 4 schools remaining from the Big 12...they go to the conference with the biggest tv deal that will have them.
Outside of the current P4...that is the AAC.

Whatever remains of the Big12 will lure in new members. I don't see that conference going belly up. No they won't be a power conference anymore, but they will be the best of the outsiders. There is no good reason why the remaining members would agree to join an existing conference with some programs they feel are beneath them, when they can just invite the top programs from any G5 conference. The AAC isn't going to absorb the remains of the Big12.

No,no,no.
What kind of tv deal do you think the Big 12 has with just 4 schools?
NONE. Nada. Zilch.
Fox would cancel it faster than you can say "Don't do it".
So the 4 remaining schools, IF there are that many would not/could not be choosy.
They may feel they are beneath us now...but with $0 in tv revenue coming in...they are going to go after the best conference tv deal they can get. They would be in essence, knocked off their high horses.
It has happened before.
Once upon a time...in the SWC, schools such as Houston and SMU were considered power programs.
Now they are considered inferior to their former conference brethren, because of conference affiliation, and tv revenue.

Programs abandon conferences in waves, just like the last time. Texas and OU have been working on this for half a year. The Big12 will snatch their first two choices very quickly after the move becomes offical. Right now AD's from the AAC, MWC, C-USA, MAC, and Sun Belt are on the phones with Bowlsby, trying to make their case for an invitation. At some point the next rounds of defections will occur, and than the Big 12 will replace those programs. The AAC will not absorb the remains of the Big12.

(07-23-2021 05:08 PM)pilot172000 Wrote:  

(07-23-2021 05:04 PM)HerdZoned Wrote:  

(07-23-2021 03:00 PM)HTOWN_HERD Wrote:  

(07-23-2021 02:56 PM)HerdZoned Wrote:  

(07-23-2021 02:02 PM)Side.Show.Joe Wrote:  I could see West Virginia going to the ACC and Cincinnati going to the Big10. But, it would still be the same programs in play.

How many times do people who know the situation have to tell you all that WVU will never be in the ACC. They have tried and the Triangle has laughed at them each time. It took pressure from Joe Manchin, Jay Rockefeller and the late Robert C Byrd just to get them a life boat to the B12.

They will never have the votes. Thats just the facts. The only way you would see them there is if ESPN told them to and well they add no monetary value to the ACC.

As far as the B10, that is hilarious. Marshall has a better shot at being the 33 member of the NFL first.

I get the hate for WVU, I really do. However, making statements like this will only backfire on us Marshall fans. I never thought they would get into the BIGXII either, but they did.

Gordon Gee has massive influence and their AD was the former ACC co-commissioner, they have more pull than you think. I would not put my money on them getting left out like everyone hopes.

If the ACC voted in Louisville, the same sex scandal, Bobby Petrino hooking up with intern, Rick Pinto paying for strippers and Abortions, Louisville that we all know, then I would think WVU would get a look if they are forced to expand to keep up.

The ACC took Louisville over WVU, that should tell you enough right there. Im just going with history, no hate in this. And the history is WVU has tried to get in the ACC at least 4 times. In 1987, right before the BE added football in 1991 (Both WVU and Miami applied, they took FL State), 2003 in the 1st realignment and in the 2nd realignment in 2011. They have never gotten out of the prelim stages.

It also took massive pressure from Joe Manchin, Jay Rockefeller and the late Robert C Byrd to pull strings to get them in the B12. Had those 3 not put any pressure on the B12 my guess is the B12 takes Cincy instead.

Ok, let me throw a wrench in things. What happens if Mizzou bolts for the Big10? Does WVU make a run at the SEC too? It wouldn't be a bad fit.

I could see that. But, if Missouri made that move, I bet Texas A&M would join them, and the SEC would need one more program.

(07-23-2021 05:14 PM)Side.Show.Joe Wrote:  

(07-23-2021 05:08 PM)pilot172000 Wrote:  

(07-23-2021 05:04 PM)HerdZoned Wrote:  

(07-23-2021 03:00 PM)HTOWN_HERD Wrote:  

(07-23-2021 02:56 PM)HerdZoned Wrote:  How many times do people who know the situation have to tell you all that WVU will never be in the ACC. They have tried and the Triangle has laughed at them each time. It took pressure from Joe Manchin, Jay Rockefeller and the late Robert C Byrd just to get them a life boat to the B12.

They will never have the votes. Thats just the facts. The only way you would see them there is if ESPN told them to and well they add no monetary value to the ACC.

As far as the B10, that is hilarious. Marshall has a better shot at being the 33 member of the NFL first.

I get the hate for WVU, I really do. However, making statements like this will only backfire on us Marshall fans. I never thought they would get into the BIGXII either, but they did.

Gordon Gee has massive influence and their AD was the former ACC co-commissioner, they have more pull than you think. I would not put my money on them getting left out like everyone hopes.

If the ACC voted in Louisville, the same sex scandal, Bobby Petrino hooking up with intern, Rick Pinto paying for strippers and Abortions, Louisville that we all know, then I would think WVU would get a look if they are forced to expand to keep up.

The ACC took Louisville over WVU, that should tell you enough right there. Im just going with history, no hate in this. And the history is WVU has tried to get in the ACC at least 4 times. In 1987, right before the BE added football in 1991 (Both WVU and Miami applied, they took FL State), 2003 in the 1st realignment and in the 2nd realignment in 2011. They have never gotten out of the prelim stages.

It also took massive pressure from Joe Manchin, Jay Rockefeller and the late Robert C Byrd to pull strings to get them in the B12. Had those 3 not put any pressure on the B12 my guess is the B12 takes Cincy instead.

Ok, let me throw a wrench in things. What happens if Mizzou bolts for the Big10? Does WVU make a run at the SEC too? It wouldn't be a bad fit.

I could see that. But, if Missouri made that move, I bet Texas A&M would join them, and the SEC would need one more program.

What!? Why would A&M leave for the B10? Ridiculous

(07-23-2021 05:17 PM)Dusky Wrote:  

(07-23-2021 05:14 PM)Side.Show.Joe Wrote:  

(07-23-2021 05:08 PM)pilot172000 Wrote:  

(07-23-2021 05:04 PM)HerdZoned Wrote:  

(07-23-2021 03:00 PM)HTOWN_HERD Wrote:  I get the hate for WVU, I really do. However, making statements like this will only backfire on us Marshall fans. I never thought they would get into the BIGXII either, but they did.

Gordon Gee has massive influence and their AD was the former ACC co-commissioner, they have more pull than you think. I would not put my money on them getting left out like everyone hopes.

If the ACC voted in Louisville, the same sex scandal, Bobby Petrino hooking up with intern, Rick Pinto paying for strippers and Abortions, Louisville that we all know, then I would think WVU would get a look if they are forced to expand to keep up.

The ACC took Louisville over WVU, that should tell you enough right there. Im just going with history, no hate in this. And the history is WVU has tried to get in the ACC at least 4 times. In 1987, right before the BE added football in 1991 (Both WVU and Miami applied, they took FL State), 2003 in the 1st realignment and in the 2nd realignment in 2011. They have never gotten out of the prelim stages.

It also took massive pressure from Joe Manchin, Jay Rockefeller and the late Robert C Byrd to pull strings to get them in the B12. Had those 3 not put any pressure on the B12 my guess is the B12 takes Cincy instead.

Ok, let me throw a wrench in things. What happens if Mizzou bolts for the Big10? Does WVU make a run at the SEC too? It wouldn't be a bad fit.

I could see that. But, if Missouri made that move, I bet Texas A&M would join them, and the SEC would need one more program.

What!? Why would A&M leave for the B10? Ridiculous

You don't understand the dynamics at play here in Texas. Texas A&M does not want Texas in the SEC. And they are very unhappy about finding out the SEC was talking with Texas for six months and they were never informed. Texas A&M stepped out of Texas' shadow when they joined the SEC. They have no desire to step back into their shadow. I could totally see A&M moving to the Big10.

(07-23-2021 05:21 PM)Side.Show.Joe Wrote:  

(07-23-2021 05:17 PM)Dusky Wrote:  

(07-23-2021 05:14 PM)Side.Show.Joe Wrote:  

(07-23-2021 05:08 PM)pilot172000 Wrote:  

(07-23-2021 05:04 PM)HerdZoned Wrote:  The ACC took Louisville over WVU, that should tell you enough right there. Im just going with history, no hate in this. And the history is WVU has tried to get in the ACC at least 4 times. In 1987, right before the BE added football in 1991 (Both WVU and Miami applied, they took FL State), 2003 in the 1st realignment and in the 2nd realignment in 2011. They have never gotten out of the prelim stages.

It also took massive pressure from Joe Manchin, Jay Rockefeller and the late Robert C Byrd to pull strings to get them in the B12. Had those 3 not put any pressure on the B12 my guess is the B12 takes Cincy instead.

Ok, let me throw a wrench in things. What happens if Mizzou bolts for the Big10? Does WVU make a run at the SEC too? It wouldn't be a bad fit.

I could see that. But, if Missouri made that move, I bet Texas A&M would join them, and the SEC would need one more program.

What!? Why would A&M leave for the B10? Ridiculous

You don't understand the dynamics at play here in Texas. Texas A&M does not want Texas in the SEC. And they are very unhappy about finding out the SEC was talking with Texas for six months and they were never informed. Texas A&M stepped out of Texas' shadow when they joined the SEC. They have no desire to step back into their shadow. I could totally see A&M moving to the Big10.

I understand it completely and there is NO way they leave if TX joins, none. Edit-if I’m wrong feel free to point to this post.

(07-23-2021 05:04 PM)HerdZoned Wrote:  

(07-23-2021 03:00 PM)HTOWN_HERD Wrote:  

(07-23-2021 02:56 PM)HerdZoned Wrote:  

(07-23-2021 02:02 PM)Side.Show.Joe Wrote:  I could see West Virginia going to the ACC and Cincinnati going to the Big10. But, it would still be the same programs in play.

How many times do people who know the situation have to tell you all that WVU will never be in the ACC. They have tried and the Triangle has laughed at them each time. It took pressure from Joe Manchin, Jay Rockefeller and the late Robert C Byrd just to get them a life boat to the B12.

They will never have the votes. Thats just the facts. The only way you would see them there is if ESPN told them to and well they add no monetary value to the ACC.

As far as the B10, that is hilarious. Marshall has a better shot at being the 33 member of the NFL first.

I get the hate for WVU, I really do. However, making statements like this will only backfire on us Marshall fans. I never thought they would get into the BIGXII either, but they did.

Gordon Gee has massive influence and their AD was the former ACC co-commissioner, they have more pull than you think. I would not put my money on them getting left out like everyone hopes.

If the ACC voted in Louisville, the same sex scandal, Bobby Petrino hooking up with intern, Rick Pinto paying for strippers and Abortions, Louisville that we all know, then I would think WVU would get a look if they are forced to expand to keep up.

The ACC took Louisville over WVU, that should tell you enough right there. Im just going with history, no hate in this. And the history is WVU has tried to get in the ACC at least 4 times. In 1987, right before the BE added football in 1991 (Both WVU and Miami applied, they took FL State), 2003 in the 1st realignment and in the 2nd realignment in 2011. They have never gotten out of the prelim stages.

It also took massive pressure from Joe Manchin, Jay Rockefeller and the late Robert C Byrd to pull strings to get them in the B12. Had those 3 not put any pressure on the B12 my guess is the B12 takes Cincy instead.

No, the Big12 took WVU over Louisville and they were both trying to get in the Big12 with great urgency. Then Louisville made their case to the ACC, when they lost to WVU for the Big12, and they relented. WVU played in the Big 12 in 2013. Louisville didn't play in the ACC till 2014 and was stuck in the AAC in 2013. The funniest part is Loisville thought they had the Big12 spot sewn up and then WVU comes in with the last minute hail mary and steals it. And that's where all the politicians calling in favors and the cash comes in to play.

I am thinking about starting a thread that I am not sure anyone is discussing yet...I think I will call it..."The more things change, the more things stay the same. The definitive thread on renting U-Haul's for conference alingnment. But first where do you think everyone will go?"

clt is hearing Texas a and m to big 12

Charlotte to sec

(07-23-2021 05:50 PM)ghostofclt! Wrote:  clt is hearing Texas a and m to big 12

Charlotte to sec

Does clt not have access to the & ?

(07-23-2021 05:33 PM)MUther Wrote:  

(07-23-2021 05:04 PM)HerdZoned Wrote:  

(07-23-2021 03:00 PM)HTOWN_HERD Wrote:  

(07-23-2021 02:56 PM)HerdZoned Wrote:  

(07-23-2021 02:02 PM)Side.Show.Joe Wrote:  I could see West Virginia going to the ACC and Cincinnati going to the Big10. But, it would still be the same programs in play.

How many times do people who know the situation have to tell you all that WVU will never be in the ACC. They have tried and the Triangle has laughed at them each time. It took pressure from Joe Manchin, Jay Rockefeller and the late Robert C Byrd just to get them a life boat to the B12.

They will never have the votes. Thats just the facts. The only way you would see them there is if ESPN told them to and well they add no monetary value to the ACC.

As far as the B10, that is hilarious. Marshall has a better shot at being the 33 member of the NFL first.

I get the hate for WVU, I really do. However, making statements like this will only backfire on us Marshall fans. I never thought they would get into the BIGXII either, but they did.

Gordon Gee has massive influence and their AD was the former ACC co-commissioner, they have more pull than you think. I would not put my money on them getting left out like everyone hopes.

If the ACC voted in Louisville, the same sex scandal, Bobby Petrino hooking up with intern, Rick Pinto paying for strippers and Abortions, Louisville that we all know, then I would think WVU would get a look if they are forced to expand to keep up.

The ACC took Louisville over WVU, that should tell you enough right there. Im just going with history, no hate in this. And the history is WVU has tried to get in the ACC at least 4 times. In 1987, right before the BE added football in 1991 (Both WVU and Miami applied, they took FL State), 2003 in the 1st realignment and in the 2nd realignment in 2011. They have never gotten out of the prelim stages.

It also took massive pressure from Joe Manchin, Jay Rockefeller and the late Robert C Byrd to pull strings to get them in the B12. Had those 3 not put any pressure on the B12 my guess is the B12 takes Cincy instead.

No, the Big12 took WVU over Louisville and they were both trying to get in the Big12 with great urgency. Then Louisville made their case to the ACC, when they lost to WVU for the Big12, and they relented. WVU played in the Big 12 in 2013. Louisville didn't play in the ACC till 2014 and was stuck in the AAC in 2013. The funniest part is Loisville thought they had the Big12 spot sewn up and then WVU comes in with the last minute hail mary and steals it. And that's where all the politicians calling in favors and the cash comes in to play.

The ACC wants no part of WVU. The only way that happens is if ND says that’s the only way they will join the ACC.

ACC adds Notre Dame and WVU

Big 10 adds Kansas and Iowa State

PAC 12 adds Oklahoma State, Kansas State, Texas Tech and Houston. Not sure if those west coast elite will accept a Baylor, TCU or BYU despite the fact they would be better adds than Houston.

Baylor, TCU, BYU, Boise State live on as a new Big 12, raiding the American and Mountain West.

American raid the rest.

Only the SEC, Big 10, PAC 12 and ACC continue as "power" conferences. The Big 12 becomes the new AAC.

When the dust settles, Four power conferences and Six non power conferences remain.

I could also see the ACC shocking us all, and elect to take Kansas over WVU for it's basketball.

(07-23-2021 05:56 PM)Dusky Wrote:  

(07-23-2021 05:50 PM)ghostofclt! Wrote:  clt is hearing Texas a and m to big 12

Charlotte to sec

Does clt not have access to the & ?

That is the label of the 4th runway.

clt is off to smoke