(10-23-2021 11:34 AM)ImfromClayton Wrote:  9 teams leaving x 5 million exit fees is 45 million. Split among the 5 teams left is 9 million each.

Is it worth the 9 million to be in a league with tarleton?

Full disclosure: I hope all you guys leave.

I thought it was $3M/member. Which would be $27M split 5 ways, so ~$5M/member.

Then it would cost $3M to leave, plus league application fees.

Does not appear to be worth it for the money. The only reason to stick around would be for karma, to help save the conference out of sheer magnanimity.

(10-23-2021 09:54 AM)Bobcat87 Wrote:  

(10-23-2021 07:49 AM)The WEST is the BEST Wrote:  CUSA's plan to reinvent itself as an FCS conference committed to FBS status in a specific period of time is receiving strong support. Schools approached have been receptive to the concept, and a number of proven programs have approached CUSA concerning membership. The issue now is whether to rebuild as a regional conference or a larger conference with strong regional divisions to reduce costs. Ultimately it will come back to the networks. CUSA would like to keep its current FBS members and has a plan to integrate them with the FCS schools and maintain FBS status for bowl games, sort of a subdivision with CUSA. It will give the remaining FBS programs the opportunity to play regional FCS schools in the interim to reduce travel expenses. Basically, it is a modified Sunbelt on a larger scale. It will be interesting to see if CUSA can pull it off. Many details need to be worked out.

Hooooly Crap . . . So your plan is to become the WAC. Never thought I’d live to see the day.

I know it doesn’t look great now, but neither did the SBC when it started (maybe not as bad as the WAC, but still). The neat thing, to me, that the SBC has been able to pull of us all of the institutions, East and west, have been able to work through any issues with the league well. The WAC (since we joined) had been comprised of a bunch of schools that always had an eye on the door. I never got that feeling in the SBC. It remains to be seen whether the WAC can emulate some of those successes as its really just in its infancy.

BUT, this is a CUSA board, so to tie it back to CUSA, the question is, how committed to rebuilding are the remaining members? Honestly, if I were anyone looking to get into this conference, it’s one of the first thing I’d look into. Building the league back up should improve everyone’s lot.

GO AGGIES!!!

Sounds really exciting!

The plan is if there’s no more defections, the remaining five need to look at adding three to four schools and try to maximize the CFP payouts as much as they can. NMSU, UMass and UConn as football only can work out in the short term. If two of those three say no then look at Missouri State and ask if they’re interested. Call NDSU and Delaware. What most people don’t get is this might be the last chance in probably a generation for any FCS school to move up to FBS. C-USA might not the sexiest option out there, but it’s the only option to make it happen. The AAC, MAC and SBC are maxed out. The MWC won’t take any FCS call ups even if it’s Montana so that only leaves C-USA as the only option. The CFP money which will increase is the carrot C-USA has. It’s actually our last card left.

(10-23-2021 09:03 AM)Hilltop75 Wrote:  What is clear is Judy and all of CUSA had
No plan for teams leaving.

SEC - was not complaining about their leadership
B10 - was not complaining about their Leadership
ACC - was not complaining about their leadership
B12 - was not complaining about their leadership
P12 - was not complaining about their leadership
AAC- was not complaining about their leadership
MAAC - was not complaining about their leadership
MW - was not complaining about their leadership
SBC - was not complaining about their leadership


CUSA - Has been unhappy with their leadership for years
Check commissioner was over her. The fans screamed for help & the school leaders would not man up.

(10-23-2021 04:02 PM)Rabonchild Wrote:  

(10-23-2021 09:03 AM)Hilltop75 Wrote:  What is clear is Judy and all of CUSA had
No plan for teams leaving.

SEC - was not complaining about their leadership
B10 - was not complaining about their Leadership
ACC - was not complaining about their leadership
B12 - was not complaining about their leadership
P12 - was not complaining about their leadership
AAC- was not complaining about their leadership
MAAC - was not complaining about their leadership
MW - was not complaining about their leadership
SBC - was not complaining about their leadership


CUSA - Has been unhappy with their leadership for years
The commissioner was over her. The fans screamed for help & the school leaders would not man up.

Actually, the AAC does complain about their leadership especially with botching expansion of Mountain West teams now for the second time.

(10-23-2021 08:08 AM)Huan Wrote:  Focus on the central time zones:
Sam Houston state
Lamar
North Dakota State
South Dakota State
Missouri State
Northern Iowa

THIS ^

(10-23-2021 04:09 PM)TroyTBoy Wrote:  

(10-23-2021 08:08 AM)Huan Wrote:  Focus on the central time zones:
Sam Houston state
Lamar
North Dakota State
South Dakota State
Missouri State
Northern Iowa

THIS ^

What schools would want to go to a conference
With Judy Jeep as the Commish
Missouri State said no

(10-23-2021 04:14 PM)Hilltop75 Wrote:  

(10-23-2021 04:09 PM)TroyTBoy Wrote:  

(10-23-2021 08:08 AM)Huan Wrote:  Focus on the central time zones:
Sam Houston state
Lamar
North Dakota State
South Dakota State
Missouri State
Northern Iowa

THIS ^

What schools would want to go to a conference
With Judy Jeep as the Commish
Missouri State said no

Any that want to make a ton more $$$ with the new CFP contract that CUSA has access too.

(10-23-2021 01:03 PM)UTEPDallas Wrote:  The plan is if there’s no more defections, the remaining five need to look at adding three to four schools and try to maximize the CFP payouts as much as they can. NMSU, UMass and UConn as football only can work out in the short term. If two of those three say no then look at Missouri State and ask if they’re interested. Call NDSU and Delaware. What most people don’t get is this might be the last chance in probably a generation for any FCS school to move up to FBS. C-USA might not the sexiest option out there, but it’s the only option to make it happen. The AAC, MAC and SBC are maxed out. The MWC won’t take any FCS call ups even if it’s Montana so that only leaves C-USA as the only option. The CFP money which will increase is the carrot C-USA has. It’s actually our last card left.

Very true. With the that will be coming from the next CFP expansion and TV renewal this be a last chance to move up to get more money than they thought they would ever get.
The dynamics have changed in the past 10 years.

I believe CUSA web able to grow very well and I believe there are more schools than we think that are interested in joining CUSA. You can rebuild better than before with some excellent FCS programs just like SBC did.

Id give an F for trolling but looking at the replies, you get an A+. Typical CUSA.

(10-23-2021 11:34 AM)ImfromClayton Wrote:  9 teams leaving x 5 million exit fees is 45 million. Split among the 5 teams left is 9 million each.

Is it worth the 9 million to be in a league with tarleton?

Full disclosure: I hope all you guys leave.

Man, if those numbers are correct it's manna from heaven for the schools that were left. Can you imagine how badly that money can be used? Perhaps even UTEP can bring in baseball again, I doubt it though but who knows we have a new president. Yes, the answer is yes to Tarleton but I doubt that they would be considered but even if they did, heck, 9 mil can sure soften the blow of a tiny school like this one with no sports history.

(Very true. With the that will be coming from the next CFP expansion and TV renewal this be a last chance to move up to get more money than they thought they would ever get.
The dynamics have changed in the past 10 years.

I believe CUSA web able to grow very well and I believe there are more schools than we think that are interested in joining CUSA. You can rebuild better than before with some excellent FCS programs just like SBC did.)

One good, no, great thing that could come from inviting FCS schools that want to go to FBS is that they want to come and not be like some schools that joined years back and thought they were too good for cusa. They were too big for their britches even before they played the first cusa game and putting down schools that were already IN CUSA, I won't mention names.

With schools like those mentioned in the tundra of our country it is obvious that there will be setbacks only because football is a winter sport and an outside one. If it was contracted that an indoor stadium be built for football then so much the better. Some schools already have an indoor football stadium there's no reason why the other candidates can't emulate them. Yes, go the central time zone and bring in those schools and you will have a market that no one has. We know some of those schools have great football programs but since they don't play FBS they are ignored. Who knows what would be in store if someone gives them a hand to become FBS. There will be gratitude and perhaps a great desire to raise the standard of cusa.

I wonder how UTEP will spend their share?

(10-23-2021 11:51 AM)NMSUIndyAg Wrote:  

(10-23-2021 09:54 AM)Bobcat87 Wrote:  

(10-23-2021 07:49 AM)The WEST is the BEST Wrote:  CUSA's plan to reinvent itself as an FCS conference committed to FBS status in a specific period of time is receiving strong support. Schools approached have been receptive to the concept, and a number of proven programs have approached CUSA concerning membership. The issue now is whether to rebuild as a regional conference or a larger conference with strong regional divisions to reduce costs. Ultimately it will come back to the networks. CUSA would like to keep its current FBS members and has a plan to integrate them with the FCS schools and maintain FBS status for bowl games, sort of a subdivision with CUSA. It will give the remaining FBS programs the opportunity to play regional FCS schools in the interim to reduce travel expenses. Basically, it is a modified Sunbelt on a larger scale. It will be interesting to see if CUSA can pull it off. Many details need to be worked out.

Hooooly Crap . . . So your plan is to become the WAC. Never thought I’d live to see the day.

I know it doesn’t look great now, but neither did the SBC when it started (maybe not as bad as the WAC, but still). The neat thing, to me, that the SBC has been able to pull of us all of the institutions, East and west, have been able to work through any issues with the league well. The WAC (since we joined) had been comprised of a bunch of schools that always had an eye on the door. I never got that feeling in the SBC. It remains to be seen whether the WAC can emulate some of those successes as its really just in its infancy.

BUT, this is a CUSA board, so to tie it back to CUSA, the question is, how committed to rebuilding are the remaining members? Honestly, if I were anyone looking to get into this conference, it’s one of the first thing I’d look into. Building the league back up should improve everyone’s lot.

GO AGGIES!!!

. . . a few days ago, I thought they had a legit. Chance to continue as an FBS conference… . . (And I thought it would be a good option for Nmsu). But if they’re seriously considering a drop to FCS status with the “hope” of retuning to FBS one day,
then you might as well stay where you are . . . To move would be trading one WAC for another, and this one’s got steeper travel costs . . .

(10-23-2021 08:07 PM)Bobcat87 Wrote:  

(10-23-2021 11:51 AM)NMSUIndyAg Wrote:  

(10-23-2021 09:54 AM)Bobcat87 Wrote:  

(10-23-2021 07:49 AM)The WEST is the BEST Wrote:  CUSA's plan to reinvent itself as an FCS conference committed to FBS status in a specific period of time is receiving strong support. Schools approached have been receptive to the concept, and a number of proven programs have approached CUSA concerning membership. The issue now is whether to rebuild as a regional conference or a larger conference with strong regional divisions to reduce costs. Ultimately it will come back to the networks. CUSA would like to keep its current FBS members and has a plan to integrate them with the FCS schools and maintain FBS status for bowl games, sort of a subdivision with CUSA. It will give the remaining FBS programs the opportunity to play regional FCS schools in the interim to reduce travel expenses. Basically, it is a modified Sunbelt on a larger scale. It will be interesting to see if CUSA can pull it off. Many details need to be worked out.

Hooooly Crap . . . So your plan is to become the WAC. Never thought I’d live to see the day.

I know it doesn’t look great now, but neither did the SBC when it started (maybe not as bad as the WAC, but still). The neat thing, to me, that the SBC has been able to pull of us all of the institutions, East and west, have been able to work through any issues with the league well. The WAC (since we joined) had been comprised of a bunch of schools that always had an eye on the door. I never got that feeling in the SBC. It remains to be seen whether the WAC can emulate some of those successes as its really just in its infancy.

BUT, this is a CUSA board, so to tie it back to CUSA, the question is, how committed to rebuilding are the remaining members? Honestly, if I were anyone looking to get into this conference, it’s one of the first thing I’d look into. Building the league back up should improve everyone’s lot.

GO AGGIES!!!

. . . a few days ago, I thought they had a legit. Chance to continue as an FBS conference… . . (And I thought it would be a good option for Nmsu). But if they’re seriously considering a drop to FCS status with the “hope” of retuning to FBS one day,
then you might as well stay where you are . . . To move would be trading one WAC for another, and this one’s got steeper travel costs . . .

You’re forgetting the obvious. NMSU would get more CFP money than staying independent. With the upcoming CFP expansion and deal, there’ll be more money distributed to the G5’s. That’s why it’s imperative to expand to 8-10 and stay there. NMSU would go from getting $300k a year as an independent to close to $2 million if we don’t expand past 10.

That’s the carrot C-USA still has.

(10-23-2021 08:20 PM)UTEPDallas Wrote:  

(10-23-2021 08:07 PM)Bobcat87 Wrote:  

(10-23-2021 11:51 AM)NMSUIndyAg Wrote:  

(10-23-2021 09:54 AM)Bobcat87 Wrote:  

(10-23-2021 07:49 AM)The WEST is the BEST Wrote:  CUSA's plan to reinvent itself as an FCS conference committed to FBS status in a specific period of time is receiving strong support. Schools approached have been receptive to the concept, and a number of proven programs have approached CUSA concerning membership. The issue now is whether to rebuild as a regional conference or a larger conference with strong regional divisions to reduce costs. Ultimately it will come back to the networks. CUSA would like to keep its current FBS members and has a plan to integrate them with the FCS schools and maintain FBS status for bowl games, sort of a subdivision with CUSA. It will give the remaining FBS programs the opportunity to play regional FCS schools in the interim to reduce travel expenses. Basically, it is a modified Sunbelt on a larger scale. It will be interesting to see if CUSA can pull it off. Many details need to be worked out.

Hooooly Crap . . . So your plan is to become the WAC. Never thought I’d live to see the day.

I know it doesn’t look great now, but neither did the SBC when it started (maybe not as bad as the WAC, but still). The neat thing, to me, that the SBC has been able to pull of us all of the institutions, East and west, have been able to work through any issues with the league well. The WAC (since we joined) had been comprised of a bunch of schools that always had an eye on the door. I never got that feeling in the SBC. It remains to be seen whether the WAC can emulate some of those successes as its really just in its infancy.

BUT, this is a CUSA board, so to tie it back to CUSA, the question is, how committed to rebuilding are the remaining members? Honestly, if I were anyone looking to get into this conference, it’s one of the first thing I’d look into. Building the league back up should improve everyone’s lot.

GO AGGIES!!!

. . . a few days ago, I thought they had a legit. Chance to continue as an FBS conference… . . (And I thought it would be a good option for Nmsu). But if they’re seriously considering a drop to FCS status with the “hope” of retuning to FBS one day,
then you might as well stay where you are . . . To move would be trading one WAC for another, and this one’s got steeper travel costs . . .

You’re forgetting the obvious. NMSU would get more CFP money than staying independent. With the upcoming CFP expansion and deal, there’ll be more money distributed to the G5’s. That’s why it’s imperative to expand to 8-10 and stay there. NMSU would go from getting $300k a year as an independent to close to $2 million if we don’t expand past 10.

That’s the carrot C-USA still has.

oohhh I’m not forgetting that, I made that very point on the WAC board. But it seems that a significant number of their posters (nmsu) don’t feel that it’s enough to offset the increased travel costs. Now, personally if you’re an FBS program complaining about the cost of travel, then maybe you should rethink your FBS status. But I get the concern from NM (I guess) . . they’re in the middle of nowhere and there are no short trips for them when you look at the CUSA map.

BTW: I’ve no desire to see CUSA killed off, or downgraded to FCS status, good luck to y’all . . .