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2019-20 Gross Total Revenue
SEC:

3. Alabama: $189,242,298
4. Georgia: $179,295,904
8. Louisiana State: $160,460,476
11. Auburn: $153,703,749
14. Texas A&M: $143,807,835
16. Florida: $139,287,811
17. Kentucky: $138,492,743
19. South Carolina: $137,094,212
20. Tennessee: $136,807,801
24. Arkansas: $124,297,763
43. Mississippi State: $101,215,909
44. Missouri: $100,202,460
47. Mississippi: $98,653,906
55. Vanderbilt: $88,849,982
Total: $1,891,412,849
Average per school: $135,100,918
Up $8,500,633 from 2018-19


Big 10:

1. Ohio State: $225,542,037
5. Michigan: $168,244,643
7. Penn State: $165,077,390
12. Iowa: $145,095,544
13. Wisconsin: $143,954,553
22. Nebraska: $128,185,606
25. Michigan State: $122,557,963
27. Indiana: $120,485,698
31. Northwestern: $112,499,222
32. Minnesota: $110,225,936
39. Illinois: $103,558,802
41. Purdue: $102,223,618
51. Maryland: $92,286,469
54. Rutgers: $89,840,305
Total: $1,829,777,786
Average per school: $130,698,413
Down $24,098,891 from 2018-19

Big 12:

2. Texas: $191,737,849
9. Oklahoma: $159,116,738
30. Texas Christian: $114,393,484
34. Kansas: $108,187,369
37. Baylor: $106,954,237
50. West Virginia: $92,884,748
52. Oklahoma State: $89,925,224
58. Kansas State: $86,441,107
62. Texas Tech: $81,233,518
64. Iowa State: $76,724,435
Total: $1,107,598,709
Average per school: $110,759,871
Down $55,409,857 from 2018-19


ACC:

10. Florida State: $155,656,855
15. Louisville: $140,867,112
26. Clemson: $122,263,031
29. Miami: $115,360,535
33. Duke: $109,785,804
35. North Carolina: $107,842,595
36. Virginia: $106,985,487
45. Pittsburgh: $99,763,877
46. Virginia Tech: $98,885,805
56. N.C. State: $88,656,510
57. Boston College: $87,003,060
59. Syracuse: $86,415,599
60. Georgia Tech: $86,407,600
61. Wake Forest: $84,486,746
Total: $1,490,380,616
Average per school: $106,455,758
Down $102,616,632 from 2018-19


6. *Notre Dame: $165,660,298


PAC 12:

18. Washington: $137,573,939
21. Stanford: $133,622,625
23. Southern Cal: $127,801,994
28. California Los Angeles: $119,391,431
38. California: $105,044,581
40. Oregon: $103,001,518
42. Arizona State: $101,855,268
48. Colorado: $95,592,693
49. Arizona: $93,492,302
53. Utah: $89,893,359
63. Oregon State: $77,034,669
65. Washington State: $69,307,483

Total: $1,253,611,862
Average per school: $104,467,655

Down $23,769,691 from 2018-19


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RE: 2019-20 Gross Total Revenue
Why did the SEC borrow from the future tv contract if gross revenue didn't decrease?
This must be due to the different fiscal calendar used by the SEC, right?
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RE: 2019-20 Gross Total Revenue
(06-24-2021 11:26 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  Why did the SEC borrow from the future tv contract if gross revenue didn't decrease?
This must be due to the different fiscal calendar used by the SEC, right?

Equity in Athletics posts data obtained from tax filings. So the fiscal year is fixed by the Federal Government and ends June 30th and begins July 1st each year, so no the SEC fiscal year is not different.

The revenue borrowed from the contract is for Fiscal Year 2020-21 and will be reported next year. The lost revenue was due to decline in donations (Boomer's are dying and getting less active), NCAA tournament funds withheld or reduced in 2020, NCAA CWS canceled in 2020, and decreasing gate due to unrest and citizen anger or fear.

The real damage will be in next year's numbers due to cut football games and restricted gate.

Also FSU which had a large donation in 2018-19 accounts for 43 million of the ACC's decline, Louisville for 8, Miami for 12, and Clemson for 2.
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RE: 2019-20 Gross Total Revenue
A few things that stand out to me.

1) Schools that are above the SEC average that might be available (i.e, not Ohio State, Michigan, etc.) continue to be a very small group: Texas, OK, Florida State, Louisville

2) I continue to be surprised by Washington. I'm truly surprised that the Big 10/Big 12 haven't gone after Washington yet, even recognizing travel would be a bear for both schools.

3) For a long time my "go to" was to push for OK/Kansas to the SEC. I am down on Kansas right now after Les Miles left and with potential NCAA issues in basketball too. I may have switched to NC State being the go to as a cultural fit with solid basketball, baseball, decent academics, and a middling football product. But these numbers show that NC State would have a hard time being a financial positive for the SEC. Market would have to be a factor. Duke/UNC/Virginia come closer especially if the difference in league payouts could make up the difference, however, taking all three seems unlikely, especially with image and likeness stuff potentially changing especially how privates support athletics, and with the Big 10 interested those schools too.

4) Speaking of the the Big 10, the schools that would fit in with them are the same as with the SEC + Washington and Stanford. If AAU is still a requirement, Texas. Washington and Stanford would be it based on revenue.

5) If the ACC did fall apart, in theory the Big 12 could also poach someone like Clemson/Miami and come out revenue positive, but that assumes that they don't lose anyone to other conferences either.

6) While I like to formulate different scenarios like many posters on here, the limited number of schools that are revenue positive for the SEC/Big 10 make me think that conference realignment remains unlikely.
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RE: 2019-20 Gross Total Revenue
(06-24-2021 05:04 PM)Soobahk40050 Wrote:  A few things that stand out to me.

1) Schools that are above the SEC average that might be available (i.e, not Ohio State, Michigan, etc.) continue to be a very small group: Texas, OK, Florida State, Louisville

2) I continue to be surprised by Washington. I'm truly surprised that the Big 10/Big 12 haven't gone after Washington yet, even recognizing travel would be a bear for both schools.

3) For a long time my "go to" was to push for OK/Kansas to the SEC. I am down on Kansas right now after Les Miles left and with potential NCAA issues in basketball too. I may have switched to NC State being the go to as a cultural fit with solid basketball, baseball, decent academics, and a middling football product. But these numbers show that NC State would have a hard time being a financial positive for the SEC. Market would have to be a factor. Duke/UNC/Virginia come closer especially if the difference in league payouts could make up the difference, however, taking all three seems unlikely, especially with image and likeness stuff potentially changing especially how privates support athletics, and with the Big 10 interested those schools too.

4) Speaking of the the Big 10, the schools that would fit in with them are the same as with the SEC + Washington and Stanford. If AAU is still a requirement, Texas. Washington and Stanford would be it based on revenue.

5) If the ACC did fall apart, in theory the Big 12 could also poach someone like Clemson/Miami and come out revenue positive, but that assumes that they don't lose anyone to other conferences either.

6) While I like to formulate different scenarios like many posters on here, the limited number of schools that are revenue positive for the SEC/Big 10 make me think that conference realignment remains unlikely.

The only reason I think realignment remains more likely than not is because Oklahoma has a unique opportunity to improve themselves. There's no reason for them not to take advantage of revenue growth in other leagues especially when they currently take in less than Texas.
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RE: 2019-20 Gross Total Revenue
(06-24-2021 11:59 AM)JRsec Wrote:  
(06-24-2021 11:26 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  Why did the SEC borrow from the future tv contract if gross revenue didn't decrease?
This must be due to the different fiscal calendar used by the SEC, right?

Equity in Athletics posts data obtained from tax filings. So the fiscal year is fixed by the Federal Government and ends June 30th and begins July 1st each year, so no the SEC fiscal year is not different...

I found one of the places where I had read about the SEC's fiscal year:

Quote:The conference had $729 million in total revenue for a fiscal year ending Aug. 31, 2020, according to a federal tax return that the conference provided Thursday in response to a request from USA TODAY Sports. As a result, the conference distributed roughly $45.5 million to each of its 14 member schools...

The Big Ten generally does not file its federal tax return until the spring. So, its revenue total for fiscal 2019 has not been made public...
https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/20...395659001/

There was another place that explained why the SEC was first to report financial data, giving a similar explanation. Now, none of that may have any relevance here, I'm just saying there are multiple sources stating this.
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RE: 2019-20 Gross Total Revenue
(06-24-2021 07:15 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  
(06-24-2021 11:59 AM)JRsec Wrote:  
(06-24-2021 11:26 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  Why did the SEC borrow from the future tv contract if gross revenue didn't decrease?
This must be due to the different fiscal calendar used by the SEC, right?

Equity in Athletics posts data obtained from tax filings. So the fiscal year is fixed by the Federal Government and ends June 30th and begins July 1st each year, so no the SEC fiscal year is not different...

I found one of the places where I had read about the SEC's fiscal year:

Quote:The conference had $729 million in total revenue for a fiscal year ending Aug. 31, 2020, according to a federal tax return that the conference provided Thursday in response to a request from USA TODAY Sports. As a result, the conference distributed roughly $45.5 million to each of its 14 member schools...

The Big Ten generally does not file its federal tax return until the spring. So, its revenue total for fiscal 2019 has not been made public...
https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/20...395659001/

There was another place that explained why the SEC was first to report financial data, giving a similar explanation. Now, none of that may have any relevance here, I'm just saying there are multiple sources stating this.

Key term Mark, 2020???? Anything unusual happen then and did I not say in our PM it was delayed in 2020 in hopes of having a presidents face to face (which never happened). The SEC concludes fiscal business in June when they have their annual meeting. In 2020 all Federal deadlines for taxes were extended. Just like yours. They typically announce revenue in the Spring at the meeting and distribute it by June if not sooner. And it's been that way annually for as long as I can remember.

You need to get familiar with that site. It's the one Enter Sandman uses. It's tax filing based, covers privates, breaks down information for revenue, expenses, and frequently tags anomalies such as subsidies.

It is what it is and it is reality. Don't jump to apologetics just study the info and accept it for what it is.

The article in USAToday could easily have been a conference assessment of where the SEC stood while assessing what they might lose in the months ahead, which is solid due diligence. I see it was dated Feb 4th 2021, but the data was from the taxes. USAToday is a cut and paste operation. They ran with the data when the SEC put it out. They had the info back in June 2020 and chose to release it when our PR needed a boost. Ditto for the new contract in January 2020.

I spend oodles of time listening to denials and spin on this forum, and weed through lots of poor or just plain wrong information. I've find it overwhelming since the election and have given up setting most of it straight. All of the data I use is pinned in the important section, cited, and updated annually, although I'm tempted to ignore last year's attendance data.

BTW, I believed you when you said you had read something. There is a ton of late and inaccurately edited stuff out there on all conferences every year. None of it changes the normal rhythms of these conferences, but the shut down of Federal Agencies for COVID did.
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