Under this new 12 team playoff, why wouldn't West Virginia consider an offer from the AAC. They are totally isolated from their conference, we offer multiple quality eastern programs near to them. If the AAC could get BYU and West Virginia, the conference TV package would skyrocket. With a conference championship able to be based on the winner of a matchup between the top 2 teams, there's no reason to worry about even numbers for divisions.

I could see Missouri considering a move back to the Big 12. It's their history. Their fans have zero attachment to the SEC.

Conferences are slightly less critical now in terms of marriages of convenience. As long as you're in a quality conference, it doesn't matter quite as much which one it is.

I'll go a step further. Why wouldn't Boston College, Pitt and West Virginia seriously consider joining the AAC as a group. Those schools have virtually no shot at ever making the playoff in their conference, they remain bottom feeders supposedly just glad to be there. Instead, switch to a conference where they are an instant contender, and bring their TV markets with them to make the AAC package skyrocket in value.

(06-19-2021 09:07 AM)tufinal4 Wrote:  I'll go a step further. Why wouldn't Boston College, Pitt and West Virginia seriously consider joining the AAC as a group. Those schools have virtually no shot at ever making the playoff in their conference, they remain bottom feeders supposedly just glad to be there. Instead, switch to a conference where they are an instant contender, and bring their TV markets with them to make the AAC package skyrocket in value.

TV money. None of those schools would trade the 35 million a year and who they are tied to that gives them that money for coming to the AAC for 7 million a year.

Not going to happen.

$35M reasons why this will never happen, with that kind of money one can transport any Olympic sport to Japan if they want.

(06-19-2021 09:07 AM)tufinal4 Wrote:  I'll go a step further. Why wouldn't Boston College, Pitt and West Virginia seriously consider joining the AAC as a group. Those schools have virtually no shot at ever making the playoff in their conference, they remain bottom feeders supposedly just glad to be there. Instead, switch to a conference where they are an instant contender, and bring their TV markets with them to make the AAC package skyrocket in value.

Other than markets (in the case of Pitt and BC), why would the AAC want to add more bottom feeders? I'm perfectly comfortable with small-market WVU continuing its plunge into irrelevance.

(06-19-2021 08:56 AM)tufinal4 Wrote:  Under this new 12 team playoff, why wouldn't West Virginia consider an offer from the AAC. They are totally isolated from their conference, we offer multiple quality eastern programs near to them. If the AAC could get BYU and West Virginia, the conference TV package would skyrocket. With a conference championship able to be based on the winner of a matchup between the top 2 teams, there's no reason to worry about even numbers for divisions.

I could see Missouri considering a move back to the Big 12. It's their history. Their fans have zero attachment to the SEC.

Conferences are slightly less critical now in terms of marriages of convenience. As long as you're in a quality conference, it doesn't matter quite as much which one it is.

LOL.

I lived in Morgantown for more than seven years...up to last year. Let me say this clearly:
WVU would never...NEVER....agree to being a member of the AAC.

They would go independent before joining the AAC. Not being hyperbolic or facetious here. And, if somehow the B12 fell apart, I have to believe they get picked up by one of the other "Power" conferences. Barring that, I could see WVU and four-or-five other B12 remnants sticking together and "poaching" off the tops of the AAC, CUSA, and indies like Liberty and BYU to try and keep some semblance of the B12 brand going.

But, from their perspective, they would never...and I do mean NEVER..."step down" to the AAC. That would be like suggesting that Tulsa or Tulane should "consider" accepting an invitation to the SunBelt because it would reduce their travel costs and let them play regional rivals like "Louisiana" (ULL) or Arkansas State.

Regardless of the payday, the historic "P" conferences carry a gravitas that the "G's" don't, which is why no team in the P will join a G voluntarily.

Being paid to get your ass kicked beats doing it for free even in Pennsyltucky.

To the OP. Would you leave your job and take a job offer making 1/4th of what you make now because it was closer to your house? All of these "Why would you leave the AAC for the Big 12", "Would West Virginia leave the Big 12 for the AAC" threads are ridiculous. Money isn't everything but it's a significant something.

(06-19-2021 08:56 AM)tufinal4 Wrote:  Under this new 12 team playoff, why wouldn't West Virginia consider an offer from the AAC. They are totally isolated from their conference, we offer multiple quality eastern programs near to them. If the AAC could get BYU and West Virginia, the conference TV package would skyrocket. With a conference championship able to be based on the winner of a matchup between the top 2 teams, there's no reason to worry about even numbers for divisions.

I could see Missouri considering a move back to the Big 12. It's their history. Their fans have zero attachment to the SEC.

Conferences are slightly less critical now in terms of marriages of convenience. As long as you're in a quality conference, it doesn't matter quite as much which one it is.

I can think of around 35 million reasons that will not happen.

(06-19-2021 09:07 AM)tufinal4 Wrote:  I'll go a step further. Why wouldn't Boston College, Pitt and West Virginia seriously consider joining the AAC as a group. Those schools have virtually no shot at ever making the playoff in their conference, they remain bottom feeders supposedly just glad to be there. Instead, switch to a conference where they are an instant contender, and bring their TV markets with them to make the AAC package skyrocket in value.

Those teams are not the big $$ schools in their conf right now. They switch If AAC is lucky maybe it could jump to 10 mil per year, No school is going to take a 15 to 25 mil per year hit.

WV couldn't wait to get away from this conference.

They aint comin' back.

It's kinduv a shame for us. WVU could have been in this conference had it played out differently.

If the Big XII had picked Louisville - whom they should have taken - over WVU then it's plausible the ACC picked UConn over WVU. Not definite, but definitely possible. I don't see them going to the Big 10 or SEC, even when Mizzou went south. They probably would have had to come aboard with us, much as they wouldn't have wanted to.

That would have meant the AAC got a flagship state university with a legitimate football program and a possible consistent top 25 presence alongside a decent b-ball program. H-YUGE difference for us, UConn, and WVU. I'd have taken them in a hearbeat.

But no, they won't leave the Big XII for us, nor should they. Hell, I'd tell'em to stay put.

(06-19-2021 10:25 AM)BearcatJerry Wrote:  

(06-19-2021 08:56 AM)tufinal4 Wrote:  Under this new 12 team playoff, why wouldn't West Virginia consider an offer from the AAC. They are totally isolated from their conference, we offer multiple quality eastern programs near to them. If the AAC could get BYU and West Virginia, the conference TV package would skyrocket. With a conference championship able to be based on the winner of a matchup between the top 2 teams, there's no reason to worry about even numbers for divisions.

I could see Missouri considering a move back to the Big 12. It's their history. Their fans have zero attachment to the SEC.

Conferences are slightly less critical now in terms of marriages of convenience. As long as you're in a quality conference, it doesn't matter quite as much which one it is.

LOL.

I lived in Morgantown for more than seven years...up to last year. Let me say this clearly:
WVU would never...NEVER....agree to being a member of the AAC.

They would go independent before joining the AAC. Not being hyperbolic or facetious here. And, if somehow the B12 fell apart, I have to believe they get picked up by one of the other "Power" conferences. Barring that, I could see WVU and four-or-five other B12 remnants sticking together and "poaching" off the tops of the AAC, CUSA, and indies like Liberty and BYU to try and keep some semblance of the B12 brand going.

But, from their perspective, they would never...and I do mean NEVER..."step down" to the AAC. That would be like suggesting that Tulsa or Tulane should "consider" accepting an invitation to the SunBelt because it would reduce their travel costs and let them play regional rivals like "Louisiana" (ULL) or Arkansas State.

They literally agreed to join the BIG XII before notifying the BIG EAST and sued to get out of paying exit fees... NOT HAPPENING

(06-19-2021 12:46 PM)maccoog Wrote:  To the OP. Would you leave your job and take a job offer making 1/4th of what you make now because it was closer to your house? All of these "Why would you leave the AAC for the Big 12", "Would West Virginia leave the Big 12 for the AAC" threads are ridiculous. Money isn't everything but it's a significant something.

It’s so damn basic that a two year old could figure out these hypotheticals that people keep throwing out.


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It’s barely plausible that a P5 (like South Carolina) would move to another P5 (ACC) for better playoff access but less money.

Plus…“moving down a level” doesn’t guarantee that you win. Look at Idaho. They stepped down to FCS and still suck. That’s because they have a deficient staff, boosters, administration and fan support. Keeping it Uber simplified here…If you run a shoddy program with a $35 million tv deal what makes you think you can run a successful one with a $7 million deal?


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