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Article: "Where Does the AAC Turn in the Next Conference Realignment?"
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Here's an interesting article with a somewhat different take on the possibilities for AAC expansion:

Where Does the AAC Turn in the Next Conference Realignment?

Ian Curtis - January 18, 2021.............EXCERPTS:

"It’s no secret that the American is striving to take up the Big East’s mantle as college football’s sixth power conference. A team from the AAC has been the Group of Five’s representative in the New Year’s Six in all but two years since the slot’s inception during the 2014 season (UCF’s two, along with one each for Memphis, Houston, and Cincinnati).

Potentially adding one or more of these teams could give the conference the “Power 6” status it has been so desperately craving. And let’s face it, football has been the driving force behind the American’s existence.

For the most part, these football-focused candidates are pretty obvious:

(1) Boise State: The Broncos are arguably the most successful non-power conference team in the past 15 years, and they’re the only non-AAC team not named Western Michigan to make a New Year’s Six bowl since the playoff system was created. They’ve been the cream of the non-power crop ever since they pulled off an individual historical-monument-named play, and the football benefits of adding them to the American are apparent. Boise has already discussed joining the AAC in football, but they would need to find a home for their other sports. If the Broncos can find a place for those teams, then I like the chances of this move happening in the next few years.

(2) BYU: ...they’ve got a football pedigree...and a passionate fanbase, something that the AAC would love to see in any new members...BYU has proven they can survive independently...This one could go either way, and it might depend on what happens between now and when the dominoes start to fall.

(3) App State: Ever since a certain sunny Saturday in September 2007, App State has named itself on the national scene as a football powerhouse...has continued their run of gridiron glory , winning six straight bowl games and several Sun Belt titles...In the past five seasons, the Mountaineers have defeated North Carolina and South Carolina and have forced a couple of top ten teams (2018 Penn State and 2016 Tennessee) into overtime East Carolina provides an immediate potential for a conference rivalry and App State does have a strong fanbase. ...if the AAC is looking for football-only members, it’s hard to find a more consistently successful program than the Mountaineers.

(4) Army: The question here is less if the AAC wants the Army as much as it is if Army wants the AAC. As it stands, the Black Knights have bowl tie-ins that rival the American’s, and I don’t see them taking the AAC up on their offer.

(5) San Diego State: The Aztecs add a decent football program and an excellent basketball program. But most importantly, they bring sunny San Diego, California. It’s nearly a million-and-a-half people, and just as many amenities for a college student to enjoy...arguably the best blend of location and total athletic success. A tempting target if you can get over the travel hurdle.

There are a few other schools out of the Mountain West that the AAC could attempt to add, such as (San Jose St.), UNLV, or Fresno State. I don’t see those non-Boise western additions happening (as full members, at least). But the possibility of stretching the American’s urban profile to San Diego, San Jose, or elsewhere in the warm West Coast sun is tantalizing enough to consider.

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The AAC’s Urban Option


The conference is in a unique position within Division I athletics: A majority of its member institutions are located in major American cities, something no other conference can boast. So why not lean fully into that niche, and scoop up some more urban universities?

The obvious reward is television markets...market size might be enough to tip the scale in favor of urban candidates. But additional bonuses involve recruiting:

Say you’re a three-star recruit out of Small Town, USA. Your college choices are a middling Power Five team located in your standard, small-ish college town or an AAC school situated in the big city with all the things Small Town, USA never had.

So who might the conference target if they decide to take this urban approach?

San Jose State: The Trojans are basically San Diego State with less long-term athletic prestige in a slightly smaller city. They’re not as attractive of an addition as a team like the Aztecs, but SJSU would be a great compliment to any other western schools - - if they can prove that this year’s sudden football success was not a fluke.

Georgia State: Atlanta fits the profile like a glove. While the Panthers have not set the world of college football on fire, they have consistently made bowl game appearances in the past several years.

UAB: the 2020 C-USA champions have kept the flame burning brightly even after their stint in the spotlight began to fade. Since their football program returned from the grave in 2017, UAB has earned four bowl invites (including this year’s canceled Gasparilla Bowl) and won two C-USA titles. In terms of urban profile, Birmingham is no San Diego, but it isn’t Small Town, USA either. Blazer basketball may not be a regular tournament fixture, but they’re an above-average squad...they’d be less of a liability on that front than certain other potential candidates. Much like several other schools, adding UAB is worth taking a glance at but is by no means signed and sealed.

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I’m predicting additions of at least one of either App State, Georgia State, or UAB. [i]I’d like to call my shot and say that the AAC adds one (at minimum) new football-only member in the next cycle. [/i]

...the American needs to hold onto its football prestige (especially if certain current members get poached), if not better it."

https://www.overtimeheroics.net/2021/01/...alignment/

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RE: Article: "Where Does the AAC Turn in the Next Conference Realignment?"
Another article on the subject:

It’s time for the AAC to get serious about expansion.
July 10, 2020 EXCERPTS:

When...conferences finally have plenty of money to play with again, there is only one path forward for the AAC: expansion.

It was a surprising and arguably disappointing move by the conference to choose to remain at 11 teams after UConn bolted for the Big East. It’s a rare opportunity for a conference to...suddenly have an open slot to improve.


In a few years, it needs to... There is a real path here for the conference to rise up even further among the rest of the Group of Five, essentially lock up an NY6 bid for its champion every year, and have a shot at even more TV money down the line. But this isn’t about plugging in one school to get back to 12 football members. It’s time for the conference to think bigger.

On paper, the only real difference between a power conference and a mid-major is the lack of an auto-bid to a major bowl. In the six years of the CFP system, the Mountain West has largely been the AAC’s only real competition for the Group of Five NY6 slot. Raiding a solid program like San Diego State and the crown jewel itself, Boise State, effectively takes the Mountain West out of the running.

Boise and the AAC account for five of the six Group of Five NY6 participants. The Playoff Committee loves its football brands, and the Broncos (playinig) the other most respected G5 teams in the country makes everyone look better.

...speaking of brands, that’s where BYU comes in. The Cougars have fallen off slightly over the last few years, but are still largely considered a quasi-power team and are the only mid-major with a national championship. The school has a massive fanbase and would bring another instant-credibility matchup to the conference.

These three teams also could dramatically increase the AAC’s TV value. San Diego State and BYU both play in Top 30 markets, bringing in tons of new eyeballs. ...Boise (is) arguably the biggest Group of Five brand in the nation. Adding these schools helps the AAC make up more ground in brands, strength of schedule and money.

Now, let’s go over why this isn’t at all a pipe dream.

...it’s been close to an open secret that the conference doesn’t plan to have an odd number of teams for the unforeseeable future. And these three programs all have reason to join.

Boise State (has) been frustrated with (the MWC). San Diego Statewas ready to come onboard to the AAC when it was still the Big East. Bringing that offer back again with the promise of more money (and the realization that the MW could be irrelevant if Boise is coming too) (might) bring them into the fold.

it’s already been theorized that BYU was interested in subbing in for UConn after (they) their exit. The Cougars have seen their brand decline as an independent and also have to deal with all the scheduling and bowl struggles that come with that.

Snatching up these programs would make the AAC a 14-team conference in football, with the divisions likely breaking down this way:

East

Cincinnati
East Carolina
Memphis
Navy
Temple
UCF
USF

West

Boise State
BYU
Houston
San Diego State
SMU
Tulane
Tulsa

Suddenly, the AAC has multiple teams that have played in a NY6 Bowl this decade in each division, as well as eight teams that have finished in the Top 25 at least once in the last three years. That’s a hell of a conference.

https://knightsportsnow.com/its-time-for...-expansion
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RE: Article: "Where Does the AAC Turn in the Next Conference Realignment?"
Dude, you dug up a 4 month old article to bring up the same exact conversation again, and circumvent the moving of the last thread to OT.
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(05-28-2021 07:06 AM)TripleA Wrote:  Dude, you dug up a 4 month old article to bring up the same exact conversation again, and circumvent the moving of the last thread to OT.


Careful he will place you on his ignore list.


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(05-28-2021 07:17 AM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  
(05-28-2021 07:06 AM)TripleA Wrote:  Dude, you dug up a 4 month old article to bring up the same exact conversation again, and circumvent the moving of the last thread to OT.


Careful he will place you on his ignore list.


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I hope so. It's becoming obvious he is a non-Temple fan troll. Almost everything he posts has to do with changes to the AAC or touting bad news for Temple.
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RE: Article: "Where Does the AAC Turn in the Next Conference Realignment?"
(05-28-2021 07:40 AM)TripleA Wrote:  
(05-28-2021 07:17 AM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  [quote='TripleA' pid='17441985' dateline='1622203588']
Dude, you dug up a 4 month old article to bring up the same exact conversation again, and circumvent the moving of the last thread to OT.


Almost everything he posts has to do with changes to the AAC or touting bad news for Temple.

That's complete balderdash. You shouldn't make statements about things that you're uninformed about.

Anyone who has read my posts about Temple basketball knows that I have written very positive things about the direction of the basketball program, and am very optimistic about their chances going forward.

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RE: Article: "Where Does the AAC Turn in the Next Conference Realignment?"
(05-28-2021 07:06 AM)TripleA Wrote:  Dude, you dug up a 4 month old article .

Lots of people cite articles from 6 or 8 or 12 months ago. There are no date limitations. There are articles about conference realignment written 70 years ago that could be considered pertinent.

It is a 2021 article, written this year, and is thus highly pertinent to the discussion.

I added it to provide a different take on the subject. You may not want to read a different take, but others do.

Just because a thread was moved to the Off Topic board doesn't mean that we shouldn't have any threads about the future of the AAC.

There are moderators of this board who have shown keen interest in the topic of the future of the conference, and in which teams might join the conference.
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I don't get it. Why complain about thread topics? If you don't like them just don't spend the time reading them or replying.
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RE: Article: "Where Does the AAC Turn in the Next Conference Realignment?"
This turned into an interesting journey of discovery.

I was unfamiliar with "Overtime Heroics."

Here's their pinned tweet:
And the twitter bio says "Recent sports news and opinions. Made by the fans, for the fans."
So, okay, it is a fan-posted content site. Those have their role in internet sports ecosystem. Just caveat emptor, that's all.

The linked opinion isn't the only fan post from Ian Curtis - he has a handful, including a tribute to the Chanticleers in January, and "Three Hypothetical Bowl Games that Would Be Great for College Football." Hmmm. Who IS Ian Curtis? Here is his repeated job hunting tweet:
Why does "almost summer" impact that? Well, during the school year, he is busy with his main gig, sportswriter and editor for "The Roar," the paper for Texas A&M Consolidated High School.
Hurry to get your copy now.
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RE: Article: "Where Does the AAC Turn in the Next Conference Realignment?"
(05-28-2021 04:36 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  This turned into an interesting journey of discovery.

In my own journey of discovery, I came across a Wall Street Journal attempt at determining the 2018 (most recent one I could find - I don't have a subscription to the WSJ to do any more extensive investigation) total valuations of college football programs. The site can be found here - https://graphics.wsj.com/table/NCAA_2019. Here are the current AAC schools listed:

Central Florida - $68,117,425
South Florida - $58,188,736
Houston - $41,385,725
Temple - $40,668,751
SMU - $36,047,017
Memphis - $32,289,623
Cincinnati - $30,230,291
East Carolina - $28,407,940

I should note that there are no values listed for Tulane, Tulsa or Navy - I have my suspicions but don't know why for sure so I won't speculate.

The reason why I found this interesting is that here are the values listed for expansion candidates that have been bandied about here:

BYU - $93,302,419
Boise State - $78,823,574
UAB - $49,527,523
Colorado State - $29,387,009
San Diego State - $27,715,793
UNLV $22,116,472
Buffalo $15,885,812
Southern Miss $15,037,463
FAU $13,220,944

Just presenting the data, but beyond BYU or Boise, the only other school that's above 7/8 of the AAC schools listed is UAB.

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