(11-27-2021 11:26 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(11-27-2021 08:47 AM)Tomball Owl Wrote:  You left one off list…
TB Named, grad transfer from University of Somewhere,
Bloom’s next great program savior.

I'd rather take my chances with 4 years of Bert Jr. than 1 year of somebody who wasn't good enough to play somewhere else.

Wouldn’t we all. Bit that will take a coaching change that I give less than a 10% chance of happening.

Hope I’m wrong.

I was at Ridge Point's game at UH last night as well. Bert had a good game, but he did make a few errant throws. He also cramped up a bit and Karson Gordon was in for three plays. That kid is going to be a really good player too (he's just a sophomore). He's a bit smaller than Emanuel. Bert Jr. will get some new D1 QB offers shortly - he probably just needs to see how some of the coaching changes shake down.

BTW, this was my 2nd RP game at TDECU Stadium, and I just have to say I'm not overly impressed with that stadium. It has some nice bells and whistles, but I just can't shake the feeling that it's a basketball arena with a football playing field. Yes, it's vastly better than HRS, but it just doesn't feel like it will compare favorably to the other Big 12 stadiums IMO. I haven't been to Fertitta Arena yet, but I'm guessing that's a much better facility than TDECU, comparing the two sports and venues.

(11-27-2021 09:38 PM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote:  I was at Ridge Point's game at UH last night as well. Bert had a good game, but he did make a few errant throws. He also cramped up a bit and Karson Gordon was in for three plays. That kid is going to be a really good player too (he's just a sophomore). He's a bit smaller than Emanuel. Bert Jr. will get some new D1 QB offers shortly - he probably just needs to see how some of the coaching changes shake down.

BTW, this was my 2nd RP game at TDECU Stadium, and I just have to say I'm not overly impressed with that stadium. It has some nice bells and whistles, but I just can't shake the feeling that it's a basketball arena with a football playing field. Yes, it's vastly better than HRS, but it just doesn't feel like it will compare favorably to the other Big 12 stadiums IMO. I haven't been to Fertitta Arena yet, but I'm guessing that's a much better facility than TDECU, comparing the two sports and venues.

The stadium was much better before we built the eye sore of a football facility that blocks the view of downtown. I can't complain about the football facility until we consistently draw 40K.

Fertitta center is AWESOME and I wouldn't trade it for any arena in college hoops. Truth of the matter is, we don't need to do anything different with the buildings now. We're going to be in the black on TV payments alone in the Big 12 once UH is receiving a full share.

Generally speaking, my biggest complaint about UH facilities has always related to the product on them. If the team is winning, the stadium seems just fine. I don't think any visiting or home fans are going to be discouraged from attending due to the stadium.

I thought I'd pop in to post the update that BJ committed to Central Michigan yesterday. That's a bit of a surprise, but they are a decent MAC program (they went 9-4 this year and beat Washington State in their bowl game). The surprising part to me is they are a bit more run oriented than pass oriented, and their top two quarterbacks this past year were a freshman and sophomore (eta - actually I see the back-up has transferred).

But obviously Central Michigan is a much better offer than Lamar or Army (nothing against Army but he didn't want to go there). I thought Miami, Ohio had offered too, but I'm not 100 percent sure about that. The bottom line is he would have had every offer in the world if he was willing to convert to a WR, but he wants to be a QB (and should have every chance in the world to show whether he's a D1 QB or not).

My suspicion is we'll see him in the transfer portal in a couple of years, but let's just wait and see. And best of luck to him.

(01-30-2022 09:33 AM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote:  I thought I'd pop in to post the update that BJ committed to Central Michigan yesterday. That's a bit of a surprise, but they are a decent MAC program (they went 9-4 this year and beat Washington State in their bowl game). The surprising part to me is they are a bit more run oriented than pass oriented, and their top two quarterbacks this past year were a freshman and sophomore (eta - actually I see the back-up has transferred).

But obviously Central Michigan is a much better offer than Lamar or Army (nothing against Army but he didn't want to go there). I thought Miami, Ohio had offered too, but I'm not 100 percent sure about that. The bottom line is he would have had every offer in the world if he was willing to convert to a WR, but he wants to be a QB (and should have every chance in the world to show whether he's a D1 QB or not).

My suspicion is we'll see him in the transfer portal in a couple of years, but let's just wait and see. And best of luck to him.

Maybe by then we’ll have a competent coaching staff and we can offer him like we should’ve this time around.

(01-30-2022 09:33 AM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote:  I thought I'd pop in to post the update that BJ committed to Central Michigan yesterday. That's a bit of a surprise, but they are a decent MAC program (they went 9-4 this year and beat Washington State in their bowl game). The surprising part to me is they are a bit more run oriented than pass oriented, and their top two quarterbacks this past year were a freshman and sophomore (eta - actually I see the back-up has transferred).
But obviously Central Michigan is a much better offer than Lamar or Army (nothing against Army but he didn't want to go there). I thought Miami, Ohio had offered too, but I'm not 100 percent sure about that. The bottom line is he would have had every offer in the world if he was willing to convert to a WR, but he wants to be a QB (and should have every chance in the world to show whether he's a D1 QB or not).
My suspicion is we'll see him in the transfer portal in a couple of years, but let's just wait and see. And best of luck to him.

So if he was offered by Army, he probably had the academic chops to come to Rice. That is the only reason I can imagine why Rice would possibly have failed to offer any of the legacies we have discussed here, and from what little I know I don't think that was a problem with any of them. I am becoming even more disenchanted, disappointed, and disgusted.

(03-30-2021 10:28 AM)mrbig Wrote:  I would be happy to see this guy throwing TD's to this guy. Is that too much to ask for as a Rice fan?

Bert Jr. runs a 4.5 40-yd dash with a 36" vert, very nice!

Great athlete who can also play wide receiver.

re. the legacy discussion...

https://apnews.com/article/college-admis...Mu30O8W1jE

Quote:"At those colleges, the share of legacy students in this year’s freshman class averaged 12%. The lowest share was at Rice University in Houston, where 4% of this year’s first-year class had legacy status."

As I've said previously, while schools such as Harvard, Yale and Princeton give legacy candidates an overwhelming advantage in admissions (and evaluate them in a totally separate pool), Rice goes overboard in the opposite direction...and it's a real headscratcher as it most definitely adversely impacts gifts to the university over time.

Another reason for offering scholarships to local recruits is to build up rapport with a school and its coaching staff. Let's say you have two prospects who are marginal but good enough that you are going to offer one of them a scholarship. Say one is from Madison, Wisconsin, and the other from a Greater Houston school with several junior and sophomore prospects that you really like. You're probably not going to recruit anybody else from the Madison, Wisconsin, school for years, but if you break the ice with the Greater Houston school, it could turn into a pipeline of talent.

(02-14-2022 04:56 PM)waltgreenberg Wrote:  re. the legacy discussion...

https://apnews.com/article/college-admis...Mu30O8W1jE

Quote:"At those colleges, the share of legacy students in this year’s freshman class averaged 12%. The lowest share was at Rice University in Houston, where 4% of this year’s first-year class had legacy status."

As I've said previously, while schools such as Harvard, Yale and Princeton give legacy candidates an overwhelming advantage in admissions (and evaluate them in a totally separate pool), Rice goes overboard in the opposite direction...and it's a real headscratcher as it most definitely adversely impacts gifts to the university over time.

does not make me, as a father of intelligent twin girls, want to continue to give $$ to Rice.

there was a post a while back outlining how and why rice isn't reaching out to rice kids...they were leaning on the whole they are bound by ncaa rules and can't let the kids know they are interested in them.......ahhem...my youngest son....a sophomore who ran on varsity and made it the area meet received a letter from USF track and field formally letting him know they are recruiting him to come jump and sprint for him......so i will say this again...rice can let kids know they are at least looking at them. kinda is what it is at this point......

(02-15-2022 03:57 PM)nightowl24 Wrote:  there was a post a while back outlining how and why rice isn't reaching out to rice kids...they were leaning on the whole they are bound by ncaa rules and can't let the kids know they are interested in them.......ahhem...my youngest son....a sophomore who ran on varsity and made it the area meet received a letter from USF track and field formally letting him know they are recruiting him to come jump and sprint for him......so i will say this again...rice can let kids know they are at least looking at them. kinda is what it is at this point......

A friend of mine's daughter (10th grade runner with 2 Rice parents) also received a letter from USF. I'm wondering if this is a mass mailing?

(02-15-2022 06:31 PM)WRCisforgotten79 Wrote:  

(02-15-2022 03:57 PM)nightowl24 Wrote:  there was a post a while back outlining how and why rice isn't reaching out to rice kids...they were leaning on the whole they are bound by ncaa rules and can't let the kids know they are interested in them.......ahhem...my youngest son....a sophomore who ran on varsity and made it the area meet received a letter from USF track and field formally letting him know they are recruiting him to come jump and sprint for him......so i will say this again...rice can let kids know they are at least looking at them. kinda is what it is at this point......

A friend of mine's daughter (10th grade runner with 2 Rice parents) also received a letter from USF. I'm wondering if this is a mass mailing?

Lolol way to try to discredit my post.... well considering there's quite a few 10th graders at my kids school that ran track and the only two that got it were my son and the other kid that went to state I don't think so. Couple that with the fact that the letter was addressed hand written don't think it was computer generated. But nice try though... lolol. I'm not some parent that thinks every letter you get is an offer.

Let's go with your idea that it was a mass generated letter.... Rice didn't send one. Hell if nothing else usf goes to the top of our list if they do in fact offer because they were the first to at least reach out.

With respect, coming on here to complain that your kid isn't being recruited by Rice won't be seen as a credible criticism of Rice. It is very difficult to be objective when evaluating your own children. It's human nature to think that your own child is special. There are, however, many good and valid reasons to complain about Rice football.

(02-15-2022 08:30 PM)Volente Beach Owl Wrote:  With respect, coming on here to complain that your kid isn't being recruited by Rice won't be seen as a credible criticism of Rice. It is very difficult to be objective when evaluating your own children. It's human nature to think that your own child is special. There are, however, many good and valid reasons to complain about Rice football.

Lolol...ok... I'm very objective when it comes to my kids. I'm very honest about what they are and what they aren't. Let's see my son was 3x 1st team all district wr...1x returner 1st team all district.... finalist for Touchdown Club of Houston offensive player of the year....2nd team all state returner... and was anchor leg on a 4x1 that not only got 2nd in state losing by .007 sec but also had the fastest time in the nation... ended his career with over 2000yds 20tds avg 20yds/rec and had the 2nd longest kick return for a td in Texas hs history.... you name me ONE person they have currently on their roster that has a resume that stacks up to his... name me one kid they signed that has a resume CLOSE to his. So before you jump on here and try to say I'm not objective you might want to check what your talking about first.

Hell my 10th graders is faster right now than any sprinter they have on the track team. So once again before you try to say I'm being daddy I'm being a Rice alum that's tired of seeing talent that could and would go to Rice not recruited. I stated that in previous posts. I used my inside knowledge to prove my point of their terrible recruiting practices. And I've stated I'm not mad they didn't recruit him... I'm mad they're passing up quality talent... not just my son but others they aren't and didn't recruit.

I think any attack on Nightowl because he is supposedly just promoting his sons is out of line and misplaced.

Nightowl has pretty clearly proved since his playing days that he bleeds blue and gray and has the best interests of Rice foremost in his mind. Yes, he is currently posting about Rice's lack of interest in his double-legacy sons. But it is hardly limited to that. He has repeatedly over several years pointed out other athletes, many of them legacies, that Rice has not been willing to give the time of day. I trust his judgement and eye for talent, and he has raised a number of valid questions.

Its really unfortunate Bert Jr. is not being recruited by Rice but this what happens when you keep a loosing coach one year too long. We are not going to a bowl game like always and another year is wasted. [/align]

I know of one legacy that Rice did not recruit who ended up starting for a Navy team that came down and beat Rice 63-14. I watched that game with his father. That Navy team had about 20 other Texans, and I believe that none of them were recruited or offered by Rice.