(06-29-2022 03:52 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  It still does not answer the Houston Baptist, New Orleans, Texas A&M-CC and Incarnate Word to spend more money on upgrading facilities and adding sports, and the financials of the Louisiana schools for any of the schools to come back.

It’s obviously not an issue if Lamar came back and UIW never left.

(06-29-2022 04:27 PM)Nerdlinger Wrote:  

(06-29-2022 04:18 PM)SMUstang Wrote:  I have no axe to grind. I'm just saying that things can change. They already have. The WAC is not the conference that the Texas 4 joined in 2021. They have no prospects of being FBS. The only thing they have going for them is good basketball, and they could lose some of that star power. WAC membership means a lot more expense and lost class time, which a lot of college presidents pay attention to. if someone wanted more competition, they could easily schedule tougher non conference games.

TBF, the league never had prospects of returning to FBS. That died back in 2012-13 and is not coming back.

You know that, and I know that... But some schools really thought it was going to happen. I mean, I like Southern Utah because they are in my state, but they had no chance to go FBS.

If the WAC loses all the Texas schools to the Southland? They could grab the three GNAC football members, Colorado Mesa and CSU-Peublo and then they can grab Northern Colorado. Southland still can go past 12 to 16. Grab schools like West Texas A&M, Angelo State, Arkansas Tech, Central Oklahoma, UAFS and Cameron.

Then you can move the none football schools into a new conference in the region. WAC could be the new entry way for football in the west.

(06-29-2022 09:21 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  If the WAC loses all the Texas schools to the Southland? They could grab the three GNAC football members, Colorado Mesa and CSU-Peublo and then they can grab Northern Colorado. Southland still can go past 12 to 16. Grab schools like West Texas A&M, Angelo State, Arkansas Tech, Central Oklahoma, UAFS and Cameron.

Then you can move the none football schools into a new conference in the region. WAC could be the new entry way for football in the west.

Nope, none of that is happening.

(06-29-2022 11:26 AM)Nerdlinger Wrote:  Yes, I can definitely see SFA heading back to the Southland after some leadership turnover. ACU might want back in too at that point. That would give the Southland 10 FB members and 12 BB, both of which are good numbers to stop at. And then it'll almost be like this silly WAC adventure never happened!

Wouldn’t surprise me a bit to see them leave. It was a completely illogical move from day 1, and with Lamar and SH gone, SFA sits all alone. No matter how much “stay the course” they talk, they are sitting their with egg on their face and haven’t figured out what to do about it yet.

ACU is a slightly different bird, and I can see them sticking with the WAC a little longer, at least until most of the conference jumping works itself out and then they will take any non Southland option that is available I would expect.

Poor leadership at all these schools in this fiasco. Waste of everyone’s time. Nothing but flakes. Wish they’d never come to the WAC.

(06-29-2022 09:05 PM)TardisCaptain Wrote:  

(06-29-2022 04:27 PM)Nerdlinger Wrote:  

(06-29-2022 04:18 PM)SMUstang Wrote:  I have no axe to grind. I'm just saying that things can change. They already have. The WAC is not the conference that the Texas 4 joined in 2021. They have no prospects of being FBS. The only thing they have going for them is good basketball, and they could lose some of that star power. WAC membership means a lot more expense and lost class time, which a lot of college presidents pay attention to. if someone wanted more competition, they could easily schedule tougher non conference games.

TBF, the league never had prospects of returning to FBS. That died back in 2012-13 and is not coming back.

You know that, and I know that... But some schools really thought it was going to happen. I mean, I like Southern Utah because they are in my state, but they had no chance to go FBS.

NMSU, Sam Houston and Tarleton were the only schools eager to jump to FBS.

(06-29-2022 04:18 PM)SMUstang Wrote:  I have no axe to grind. I'm just saying that things can change. They already have. The WAC is not the conference that the Texas 4 joined in 2021. They have no prospects of being FBS. There are very few opportunities for expansion out there. If UTRGV nixes adding football where does that leave the WAC? The only thing they have going for them is good basketball, and they could lose some of that star power. WAC membership means a lot more expense and lost class time, which a lot of college presidents pay attention to. if someone wanted more competition, they could easily schedule tougher non conference games.

I doubt it means any difference in class time. The Southland and WAC both played Thursday/Saturday basketball schedule.

From San Antonio to Orem or Natchitoches will take a good share of Thursday to get to the first game on Thursday night. Stay overnight in a hotel and travel on Friday to Seattle or Hammond. Perhaps a bit of free time to sight-see. Overnight in the hotel. Play the second game on Saturday. Perhaps you can travel back to San Antonio on Saturday if it is an afternoon game. Otherwise you return on Sunday. Two weekdays missed in either case.

Perhaps when UIW would play Tarleton and ACU or HBU and Lamar you could return to San Antonio for Friday classes.

(06-30-2022 05:20 AM)OscarWildeCat Wrote:  

(06-29-2022 09:05 PM)TardisCaptain Wrote:  

(06-29-2022 04:27 PM)Nerdlinger Wrote:  

(06-29-2022 04:18 PM)SMUstang Wrote:  I have no axe to grind. I'm just saying that things can change. They already have. The WAC is not the conference that the Texas 4 joined in 2021. They have no prospects of being FBS. The only thing they have going for them is good basketball, and they could lose some of that star power. WAC membership means a lot more expense and lost class time, which a lot of college presidents pay attention to. if someone wanted more competition, they could easily schedule tougher non conference games.

TBF, the league never had prospects of returning to FBS. That died back in 2012-13 and is not coming back.

You know that, and I know that... But some schools really thought it was going to happen. I mean, I like Southern Utah because they are in my state, but they had no chance to go FBS.

NMSU, Sam Houston and Tarleton were the only schools eager to jump to FBS.

NMSU was already FBS.

(06-30-2022 08:22 AM)Nerdlinger Wrote:  NMSU was already FBS.

Believe the point trying to be made by the OP was that NMSU was joined by Sam Houston and Tarleton in wanting to see the WAC make the move as a league to the FBS level.

NMSU wanted a league and until the CUSA invite recently, did not have a league. They do now.