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(03-19-2021 05:38 PM)Bearcatbdub Wrote:  https://www.fox19.com/2021/03/19/he-know...n-brannen/

Reading that article, I wonder if that was Tre Scott. He seemed to thrive under Brannen. He also seemed like one of the most above board, coachable, and energetic guys we ever had.

It's very odd that this commenter would feel the need for anonymity.

Not odd at all. Any player with any smarts will stay anonymous. Otherwise, there will be someone mad at you no matter what you say.
 
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Nobody who says something good about their past coach is getting any heat that matters

Trey being silent says volumes.

Perhaps Chris Vogt likes him enough to come back for an extra year. Yeesh.
 
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(03-19-2021 05:21 PM)Bearcatbdub Wrote:  
(03-19-2021 04:53 PM)Bruce Monnin Wrote:  
(03-19-2021 11:45 AM)levydl Wrote:  People are also speculating that all 5 guys who are transferring are soft and entitled. I don't see much proof behind that either.

As I am soft and entitled, I can't blame anyone for that.

I can envision a world were the kids are soft and entitled and Brannen is also an oblivious prick. The two aren’t mutually exclusive.


However, the truth most likely lies somewhere in the middle.

Lord knows we've not had that before. LOL
 
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(03-19-2021 05:38 PM)Bearcatbdub Wrote:  https://www.fox19.com/2021/03/19/he-know...n-brannen/

Reading that article, I wonder if that was Tre Scott. He seemed to thrive under Brannen. He also seemed like one of the most above board, coachable, and energetic guys we ever had.

He spoke about NKU. Could have been Drew McDonald for all we know.

The ending indicated that both Brannen and Cunningham declined to comment. And that will likely be their line. If they say anything that contradicts the claims of the outgoing players, they'll just be seen as throwing the players under the bus, which will undoubtedly be poorly viewed no matter what they try to say.

The reality of the situation is they can't even defend themselves.
 
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(03-19-2021 06:51 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  Nobody who says something good about their past coach is getting any heat that matters

Trey being silent says volumes.

Perhaps Chris Vogt likes him enough to come back for an extra year. Yeesh.

Appreciate you’re positive comments...
 
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Your welcome. I’m positive Vogt coming back would make most of us miserable.
 
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(03-19-2021 08:26 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  Your welcome. I’m positive Vogt coming back would make most of us miserable.

Actually, if we had better outside shooters and another inside presence (where Vogt would be a second option inside), then Vogt would be quite valuable as a returning player.

But we need someone else to be the primary inside guy.
 
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(03-19-2021 08:26 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  Your welcome. I’m positive Vogt coming back would make most of us miserable.

Maybe you...Vogt may not be what you want...but he always gave from what I watched his best effort...was it Bearcat worthy...hell yes...he tried and competed...and he wanted to wear the Bearcat uniform unlike those who left...
 
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(03-19-2021 08:49 PM)Bruce Monnin Wrote:  
(03-19-2021 08:26 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  Your welcome. I’m positive Vogt coming back would make most of us miserable.

Actually, if we had better outside shooters and another inside presence (where Vogt would be a second option inside), then Vogt would be quite valuable as a returning player.

But we need someone else to be the primary inside guy.

I’d say we need almost anyone else to be the primary inside guy.
 
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(03-19-2021 09:15 AM)Banter Wrote:  
(03-19-2021 08:29 AM)bearcat54 Wrote:  
(03-18-2021 02:25 PM)skyblade Wrote:  
(03-18-2021 02:10 PM)bearcat54 Wrote:  
(03-18-2021 07:48 AM)mptnstr@44 Wrote:  I wondered this too...
f a player puts their name in can they pull it back out?
If you were their coach and they decided to bail on you do you want them back?

I think they could all return if they wanted. Honestly, most of them probably couldn't give a reason why they didn't like it here. If not for the covid guidelines, they would have probably been very happy at UC. Maybe CJB can get better and more experienced players this year.

3/6 of them have indicated they are leaving because of the coach in some way. Saunders came out and said it, Eason and Harvey pretty much did by leaving the coaching staff out of their farewell tweets. They aren't coming back unless Brannen leaves.

Gabe/Mason have been silent, but Gabe has indicated he wants to play closer to home. Who knows with Mason, but I'm guessing he either wants to play with Gabe or he feels the same as Saunders, Eason and Harvey and has no interest in playing for Brannen.

They don't like Brannen, they haven't liked Brannen for quite a while now. A large number of players who have played for Brannen at UC have not liked him. All indications are that he is a locker room cancer.

like Terry Nelson said, Brannen wasn't abusive to the players. Maybe the young generation is used to being treated special and these guys can't deal with a strict regimen utliized by the COVID.

I think the lack of campus life to blow off steam after a bad game/practice was a big issue none of us even thought about.

I’ve seen a few places where they pretty much had to go to practice and then come back to their apartments. I’m a little bit confused about that.

Were they not allowed to walk around campus with their masks on? Could they not go through the McDonald’s drive-through like the rest of us?

I’m sure the rest of the college students were still sneaking off and doing some partying but I guess these guys had 11 PM bed checks?

Also, I read that when someone had a Covid quarantine, they were not in their regular apartment? And they were shipped off to some other dorm that did not have all their stuff in it? So they were not in a familiar place. That doesn’t make any sense. Why couldn’t they quarantine in their apartment? You figure their roommate must’ve been exposed too. They would both be quarantining together.
 
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(03-19-2021 10:15 PM)ZCat Wrote:  
(03-19-2021 09:15 AM)Banter Wrote:  
(03-19-2021 08:29 AM)bearcat54 Wrote:  
(03-18-2021 02:25 PM)skyblade Wrote:  
(03-18-2021 02:10 PM)bearcat54 Wrote:  I think they could all return if they wanted. Honestly, most of them probably couldn't give a reason why they didn't like it here. If not for the covid guidelines, they would have probably been very happy at UC. Maybe CJB can get better and more experienced players this year.

3/6 of them have indicated they are leaving because of the coach in some way. Saunders came out and said it, Eason and Harvey pretty much did by leaving the coaching staff out of their farewell tweets. They aren't coming back unless Brannen leaves.

Gabe/Mason have been silent, but Gabe has indicated he wants to play closer to home. Who knows with Mason, but I'm guessing he either wants to play with Gabe or he feels the same as Saunders, Eason and Harvey and has no interest in playing for Brannen.

They don't like Brannen, they haven't liked Brannen for quite a while now. A large number of players who have played for Brannen at UC have not liked him. All indications are that he is a locker room cancer.

like Terry Nelson said, Brannen wasn't abusive to the players. Maybe the young generation is used to being treated special and these guys can't deal with a strict regimen utliized by the COVID.

I think the lack of campus life to blow off steam after a bad game/practice was a big issue none of us even thought about.

I’ve seen a few places where they pretty much had to go to practice and then come back to their apartments. I’m a little bit confused about that.

Were they not allowed to walk around campus with their masks on? Could they not go through the McDonald’s drive-through like the rest of us?

I’m sure the rest of the college students were still sneaking off and doing some partying but I guess these guys had 11 PM bed checks?

Also, I read that when someone had a Covid quarantine, they were not in their regular apartment? And they were shipped off to some other dorm that did not have all their stuff in it? So they were not in a familiar place. That doesn’t make any sense. Why couldn’t they quarantine in their apartment? You figure their roommate must’ve been exposed too. They would both be quarantining together.

I don’t know what was going on. But there has been so much nonsensical bull**** with covid protocols in college athletics that it makes no sense. Go bang with guys out on the court for 60 minutes, but wear masks and sit 6 feet apart on the bench. Coaches pulling down there masks every 20 seconds to yell at people. Sorry makes no sense.
 
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(03-20-2021 12:16 AM)Bearcatbdub Wrote:  
(03-19-2021 10:15 PM)ZCat Wrote:  
(03-19-2021 09:15 AM)Banter Wrote:  
(03-19-2021 08:29 AM)bearcat54 Wrote:  
(03-18-2021 02:25 PM)skyblade Wrote:  3/6 of them have indicated they are leaving because of the coach in some way. Saunders came out and said it, Eason and Harvey pretty much did by leaving the coaching staff out of their farewell tweets. They aren't coming back unless Brannen leaves.

Gabe/Mason have been silent, but Gabe has indicated he wants to play closer to home. Who knows with Mason, but I'm guessing he either wants to play with Gabe or he feels the same as Saunders, Eason and Harvey and has no interest in playing for Brannen.

They don't like Brannen, they haven't liked Brannen for quite a while now. A large number of players who have played for Brannen at UC have not liked him. All indications are that he is a locker room cancer.

like Terry Nelson said, Brannen wasn't abusive to the players. Maybe the young generation is used to being treated special and these guys can't deal with a strict regimen utliized by the COVID.

I think the lack of campus life to blow off steam after a bad game/practice was a big issue none of us even thought about.

I’ve seen a few places where they pretty much had to go to practice and then come back to their apartments. I’m a little bit confused about that.

Were they not allowed to walk around campus with their masks on? Could they not go through the McDonald’s drive-through like the rest of us?

I’m sure the rest of the college students were still sneaking off and doing some partying but I guess these guys had 11 PM bed checks?

Also, I read that when someone had a Covid quarantine, they were not in their regular apartment? And they were shipped off to some other dorm that did not have all their stuff in it? So they were not in a familiar place. That doesn’t make any sense. Why couldn’t they quarantine in their apartment? You figure their roommate must’ve been exposed too. They would both be quarantining together.

I don’t know what was going on. But there has been so much nonsensical bull**** with covid protocols in college athletics that it makes no sense. Go bang with guys out on the court for 60 minutes, but wear masks and sit 6 feet apart on the bench. Coaches pulling down there masks every 20 seconds to yell at people. Sorry makes no sense.

Please follow the science. What Fauci says is science because he says so. Masks for healthy 20 year olds is virtue signaling and compliance with Fauci.
 
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(03-19-2021 08:49 PM)Bruce Monnin Wrote:  
(03-19-2021 08:26 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  Your welcome. I’m positive Vogt coming back would make most of us miserable.

Actually, if we had better outside shooters and another inside presence (where Vogt would be a second option inside), then Vogt would be quite valuable as a returning player.

But we need someone else to be the primary inside guy.

Agree, but i think a lot depends on who you add in the backcourt and wings. Even though we got better as the year went on we still finished 290th in 3 pt fg % at 31% and won games against less competitive teams in some cases, and better(smu/wsu) in others. If you add guys who can knock down shots, Vogt is a much more realistic option if you have to guard the perimeter which we saw the year before when folks shadowed JC and his cousin. If we can become a better perimeter team through the reset it gives them some flexibility to add a more defensive shot blocker at the 5 assuming there is one available. Given the situation, if they added a true frosh at that position i wouldn't be disappointed. Big kids are hard to find.
 
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I'm not sure what to make of this:



Seems to still be a lot of stuff flying back and forth just under the radar including among the media. I'm not sure how bearcatmark fits in?
 
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(03-22-2021 10:14 PM)Bearhawkeye Wrote:  I'm not sure what to make of this:



Seems to still be a lot of stuff flying back and forth just under the radar including among the media. I'm not sure how bearcatmark fits in?

Mark was in the replies to the original tweet. As for the guy making claims about Mason... no clue if he is legit, but I’m guessing not.
 
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(03-22-2021 10:29 PM)robertfoshizzle Wrote:  
(03-22-2021 10:14 PM)Bearhawkeye Wrote:  I'm not sure what to make of this:



Seems to still be a lot of stuff flying back and forth just under the radar including among the media. I'm not sure how bearcatmark fits in?

Mark was in the replies to the original tweet. As for the guy making claims about Mason... no clue if he is legit, but I’m guessing not.

Don't know about him either way. But iirc Chris used to be an excellent poster here and started a UC website that was probably ahead of its time. He asks if it was "partial hearsay" which implies that at least part of it isn't even hearsay. Maybe mark or someone else will have additional insight.
 
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(03-22-2021 10:57 PM)Bearhawkeye Wrote:  
(03-22-2021 10:29 PM)robertfoshizzle Wrote:  
(03-22-2021 10:14 PM)Bearhawkeye Wrote:  I'm not sure what to make of this:



Seems to still be a lot of stuff flying back and forth just under the radar including among the media. I'm not sure how bearcatmark fits in?

Mark was in the replies to the original tweet. As for the guy making claims about Mason... no clue if he is legit, but I’m guessing not.

Don't know about him either way. But iirc Chris used to be an excellent poster here and started a UC website that was probably ahead of its time. He asks if it was "partial hearsay" which implies that at least part of it isn't even hearsay. Maybe mark or someone else will have additional insight.

Good lord. We're in the realm of middle school playgrounds here.
 
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(03-20-2021 12:16 AM)Bearcatbdub Wrote:  
(03-19-2021 10:15 PM)ZCat Wrote:  
(03-19-2021 09:15 AM)Banter Wrote:  
(03-19-2021 08:29 AM)bearcat54 Wrote:  
(03-18-2021 02:25 PM)skyblade Wrote:  3/6 of them have indicated they are leaving because of the coach in some way. Saunders came out and said it, Eason and Harvey pretty much did by leaving the coaching staff out of their farewell tweets. They aren't coming back unless Brannen leaves.

Gabe/Mason have been silent, but Gabe has indicated he wants to play closer to home. Who knows with Mason, but I'm guessing he either wants to play with Gabe or he feels the same as Saunders, Eason and Harvey and has no interest in playing for Brannen.

They don't like Brannen, they haven't liked Brannen for quite a while now. A large number of players who have played for Brannen at UC have not liked him. All indications are that he is a locker room cancer.

like Terry Nelson said, Brannen wasn't abusive to the players. Maybe the young generation is used to being treated special and these guys can't deal with a strict regimen utliized by the COVID.

I think the lack of campus life to blow off steam after a bad game/practice was a big issue none of us even thought about.

I’ve seen a few places where they pretty much had to go to practice and then come back to their apartments. I’m a little bit confused about that.

Were they not allowed to walk around campus with their masks on? Could they not go through the McDonald’s drive-through like the rest of us?

I’m sure the rest of the college students were still sneaking off and doing some partying but I guess these guys had 11 PM bed checks?

Also, I read that when someone had a Covid quarantine, they were not in their regular apartment? And they were shipped off to some other dorm that did not have all their stuff in it? So they were not in a familiar place. That doesn’t make any sense. Why couldn’t they quarantine in their apartment? You figure their roommate must’ve been exposed too. They would both be quarantining together.

I don’t know what was going on. But there has been so much nonsensical bull**** with covid protocols in college athletics that it makes no sense. Go bang with guys out on the court for 60 minutes, but wear masks and sit 6 feet apart on the bench. Coaches pulling down there masks every 20 seconds to yell at people. Sorry makes no sense.

I like the ref going over to the table to see the replay and... whoops, gotta pull that mask up over my face first. Don't want to spread that virus that you don't have to start.

But out on the court is safe. The scoring table area...deadly.
 
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So we don’t like Mason Madsen again?

I need a scorecard.
 
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(03-23-2021 07:01 AM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  So we don’t like Mason Madsen again?

I need a scorecard.

Honestly I don’t think we like anyone or anything associated with UC basketball anymore. We like football but we don’t like the offensive coordinator sometimes. We also don’t like AAC or the CFP. We definitely don’t like Xavier.
 
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