(03-20-2021 12:10 PM)Saint3333 Wrote:  How many of those members have done it as members of CUSA since 2000?

Well we can’t play that game unless you want to throw out our Michigan win and three nattys in football.

(03-19-2021 10:10 PM)seaking4steel Wrote:  

(03-19-2021 07:54 PM)AppManDG Wrote:  Hopefully you're right, but it all depends on the talent Kerns can bring in. He can obviously coach, but can he and his mostly inexperience staff convince good players to come to App. Jim Fox couldn't coach a lick, esp the last 5 minutes, but his top assistant Jason Allison can recruit with the best of them. Mystified why Kerns didn't keep him on staff. Jason was responsible for 4 of the 5 starters on the floor. Fingers crossed.

Because he's now the interim Golf coach for us.

Don't exactly know how you exactly meant this. Is it a dig or positive towards Jason?
He took the golf gig after after spending some time in Athletic Development in a position Gillin mostly created for him. Jason is a pretty fair golfer and it was a natural move for him. He has the App golf team playing well in addition to creating one of the hottest pieces of App merchandise in recent years. He also signed a top-10 North Carolina Youth Golf Association player. Quite a feat considering how handicapped we are in golf.

(03-20-2021 01:19 PM)ah59396 Wrote:  

(03-20-2021 12:10 PM)Saint3333 Wrote:  How many of those members have done it as members of CUSA since 2000?

Well we can’t play that game unless you want to throw out our Michigan win and three nattys in football.

You could make that comparison if App followed that win and Natty's with limited or no success in football, but that's not the case. But some of the programs the CUSA people like to tout as having basketball history (think Charlotte, UTEP, and probably a few others) are pretty far removed from anything resembling sustained basketball success.

(03-20-2021 03:14 AM)Saint3333 Wrote:  

(03-19-2021 09:23 PM)AppManDG Wrote:  

(03-19-2021 08:24 PM)Saint3333 Wrote:  Players come to play for quality coaches. Kerns is very respected by high school coaches in NC.

Hope so. We shall see.

I’ve already seen enough to firmly state Kerns is the best coach App has had since Buzz the first time.

Well then it's settled!

I've not seen enough to firmly state one way or the other.

(03-20-2021 01:26 AM)ah59396 Wrote:  

(03-19-2021 09:30 PM)AppManDG Wrote:  

(03-19-2021 08:40 PM)ah59396 Wrote:  

(03-19-2021 06:53 PM)GSUALUM17 Wrote:  Fair or not, you want respect across the multiple fan boards, you have to string together couple of 20 win seasons. Until then, there always will be comparison to the Troy team few years back that just happened to get hot in the tournament but returned to irrelevance subsequent years.

For what it's worth, I think App is a team on the rise.

And that’s totally valid criticism to levy. I just eyeroll (not at you) about another team deserving to be there in our stead because we lost the play in game.

The team that wins the conference tournament deserves to go. As a fan of a team that loses it nearly every year, that’s the way it goes! Win and you’re in!

With all due respect I could care less what anyone on a fan board thinks. I'd wager there isn't a coach out there that puts stock in fan board opinions either.

Surely you can appreciate the irony of your post then

I wouldn't expect fans from other boards to give a rip what I think about their programs either.

(03-20-2021 02:07 PM)AppManDG Wrote:  

(03-20-2021 01:26 AM)ah59396 Wrote:  

(03-19-2021 09:30 PM)AppManDG Wrote:  

(03-19-2021 08:40 PM)ah59396 Wrote:  

(03-19-2021 06:53 PM)GSUALUM17 Wrote:  Fair or not, you want respect across the multiple fan boards, you have to string together couple of 20 win seasons. Until then, there always will be comparison to the Troy team few years back that just happened to get hot in the tournament but returned to irrelevance subsequent years.

For what it's worth, I think App is a team on the rise.

And that’s totally valid criticism to levy. I just eyeroll (not at you) about another team deserving to be there in our stead because we lost the play in game.

The team that wins the conference tournament deserves to go. As a fan of a team that loses it nearly every year, that’s the way it goes! Win and you’re in!

With all due respect I could care less what anyone on a fan board thinks. I'd wager there isn't a coach out there that puts stock in fan board opinions either.

Surely you can appreciate the irony of your post then

I wouldn't expect fans from other boards to give a rip what I think about their programs either.

My point is, you can’t have 5000+ posts on a message board, then tell me you could care less about what people on a fan board thinks.

(03-20-2021 02:02 PM)AppManDG Wrote:  

(03-20-2021 03:14 AM)Saint3333 Wrote:  

(03-19-2021 09:23 PM)AppManDG Wrote:  

(03-19-2021 08:24 PM)Saint3333 Wrote:  Players come to play for quality coaches. Kerns is very respected by high school coaches in NC.

Hope so. We shall see.

I’ve already seen enough to firmly state Kerns is the best coach App has had since Buzz the first time.

Well then it's settled!

I've not seen enough to firmly state one way or the other.

Keep watching, hope we can keep him beyond the current contract.

(03-20-2021 04:39 PM)ah59396 Wrote:  

(03-20-2021 02:07 PM)AppManDG Wrote:  

(03-20-2021 01:26 AM)ah59396 Wrote:  

(03-19-2021 09:30 PM)AppManDG Wrote:  

(03-19-2021 08:40 PM)ah59396 Wrote:  And that’s totally valid criticism to levy. I just eyeroll (not at you) about another team deserving to be there in our stead because we lost the play in game.

The team that wins the conference tournament deserves to go. As a fan of a team that loses it nearly every year, that’s the way it goes! Win and you’re in!

With all due respect I could care less what anyone on a fan board thinks. I'd wager there isn't a coach out there that puts stock in fan board opinions either.

Surely you can appreciate the irony of your post then

Fair or not, you want respect across the multiple fan boards".
I wouldn't expect fans from other boards to give a rip what I think about their programs either.

My point is, you can’t have 5000+ posts on a message board, then tell me you could care less about what people on a fan board thinks.

Perhaps I wasn't clear enough. My response was in context to the comment: "Fair or not, you want respect across the multiple fan boards." I come here to discuss and offer insights others may not have, not cheerlead.

(03-20-2021 01:47 PM)EigenEagle Wrote:  You could make that comparison if App followed that win and Natty's with limited or no success in football, but that's not the case. But some of the programs the CUSA people like to tout as having basketball history (think Charlotte, UTEP, and probably a few others) are pretty far removed from anything resembling sustained basketball success.

Conference RPIs for the SBC and CUSA for each season in the current iteration of the conference. Wasn't really a down year for the conference going by this.

2014-2015
Sun Belt 19
Conference USA 16

2015-2016
Sun Belt 17
CUSA 21

2016-2017
Sun Belt 13
CUSA 23

2017-2018
Sun Belt 20
CUSA 14

2018-2019
Sun Belt 17
Conference 13

2019-2020
Sun Belt 14
CUSA 17

2020-2021
Sun Belt 16
Conference USA 12

(03-21-2021 09:07 AM)EigenEagle Wrote:  

(03-20-2021 01:47 PM)EigenEagle Wrote:  You could make that comparison if App followed that win and Natty's with limited or no success in football, but that's not the case. But some of the programs the CUSA people like to tout as having basketball history (think Charlotte, UTEP, and probably a few others) are pretty far removed from anything resembling sustained basketball success.

Conference RPIs for the SBC and CUSA for each season in the current iteration of the conference. Wasn't really a down year for the conference going by this.

2014-2015
Sun Belt 19
Conference USA 16

2015-2016
Sun Belt 17
CUSA 21

2016-2017
Sun Belt 13
CUSA 23

2017-2018
Sun Belt 20
CUSA 14

2018-2019
Sun Belt 17
Conference 13

2019-2020
Sun Belt 14
CUSA 17

2020-2021
Sun Belt 16
Conference USA 12

By playing a division only schedule, its hard for either league to claim down year or good year. As a league we never got a full read on how good Texas State was for example, because we saw them play one game against an East team.

The fact Georgia State was able to beat South 3 times this year doesn't mean they were the class of the league, especially with limited OOC games for everyone.

I think it was an average year that happened to end with a lower seeded team winning the conference tournament.