They left Jarrod Zabransky out of this list. It was him and the Broncos team that went undefeated, and beat Oklahoma in the Fiesta Bowl.

(03-03-2021 09:59 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(03-03-2021 08:00 PM)GeminiCoog Wrote:  

(03-02-2021 04:42 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(03-02-2021 03:31 PM)esayem Wrote:  Lots of recency bias in the top 10. Leinart and Dorsey should be higher. Crouch too.

Leinart was spectacular. But I think the Bush scandal tarnishes those USC teams in the media eye.

Agreed. Take away that scandal, and suddenly, Leinart’s career has more luster to it.

On accomplishments, Leinart is arguably the best of the lot. The three years he QB'd USC, they finished AP #1, #1 and #2. He's the only QB this century to truly lead his team to at least a share of two national titles as opposed to just being on the roster for them.

His overall record as a QB was 37-2, and the two games he lost was a 34-31 game to Aaron Rodgers and Cal in triple overtime in 2003 and of course the 2005 national title game to Texas. Both games were as close as can be.

Even Alabama and Clemson of recent years have never gone three straight seasons with a total of only two losses. And Leinart was great all three years.

Leinart did have a great college career, but he is another example of a QB who played on a team that was absolutely loaded with talent. He played with over 20 future NFL players. Arguably he was the second-best player in his own backfield at USC. For that matter their coaching staff was equally loaded; the head coach is now an NFL head coach and three of the assistants on that staff are the current head coaches at LSU, Ole Miss, and Texas.

(03-05-2021 12:18 PM)Wedge Wrote:  

(03-03-2021 09:59 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(03-03-2021 08:00 PM)GeminiCoog Wrote:  

(03-02-2021 04:42 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(03-02-2021 03:31 PM)esayem Wrote:  Lots of recency bias in the top 10. Leinart and Dorsey should be higher. Crouch too.

Leinart was spectacular. But I think the Bush scandal tarnishes those USC teams in the media eye.

Agreed. Take away that scandal, and suddenly, Leinart’s career has more luster to it.

On accomplishments, Leinart is arguably the best of the lot. The three years he QB'd USC, they finished AP #1, #1 and #2. He's the only QB this century to truly lead his team to at least a share of two national titles as opposed to just being on the roster for them.

His overall record as a QB was 37-2, and the two games he lost was a 34-31 game to Aaron Rodgers and Cal in triple overtime in 2003 and of course the 2005 national title game to Texas. Both games were as close as can be.

Even Alabama and Clemson of recent years have never gone three straight seasons with a total of only two losses. And Leinart was great all three years.

Leinart did have a great college career, but he is another example of a QB who played on a team that was absolutely loaded with talent. He played with over 20 future NFL players. Arguably he was the second-best player in his own backfield at USC. For that matter their coaching staff was equally loaded; the head coach is now an NFL head coach and three of the assistants on that staff are the current head coaches at LSU, Ole Miss, and Texas.

No question, those USC teams were loaded. But then again Joe Burrow's LSU team was loaded as was Tim Tebow's Florida team, etc. Most of the guys at the very top played for historically elite programs with plenty of talent.

(03-02-2021 02:15 PM)Wedge Wrote:  

(03-01-2021 10:38 PM)bullet Wrote:  Overall it would be:
1. Vince Young
2. Cam Newton

They could change a game by themselves. Don't really have a problem with the top dozen other than Tebow. I would not put him that high.
The rest other than Vince and Newton from Colt to Mayfield are pretty interchangeable in the rankings.

That's it. Texas won their title because they had VY, and Auburn won theirs because they had Newton. But Florida's title in 2008? Yes, Tebow played well, but the team was absolutely loaded and would have won the title with any of a dozen other top QBs from that season.

They wouldn't have won if they had to play Texas and Colt McCoy instead of OU!

(03-05-2021 01:05 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(03-05-2021 12:18 PM)Wedge Wrote:  

(03-03-2021 09:59 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(03-03-2021 08:00 PM)GeminiCoog Wrote:  

(03-02-2021 04:42 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  Leinart was spectacular. But I think the Bush scandal tarnishes those USC teams in the media eye.

Agreed. Take away that scandal, and suddenly, Leinart’s career has more luster to it.

On accomplishments, Leinart is arguably the best of the lot. The three years he QB'd USC, they finished AP #1, #1 and #2. He's the only QB this century to truly lead his team to at least a share of two national titles as opposed to just being on the roster for them.

His overall record as a QB was 37-2, and the two games he lost was a 34-31 game to Aaron Rodgers and Cal in triple overtime in 2003 and of course the 2005 national title game to Texas. Both games were as close as can be.

Even Alabama and Clemson of recent years have never gone three straight seasons with a total of only two losses. And Leinart was great all three years.

Leinart did have a great college career, but he is another example of a QB who played on a team that was absolutely loaded with talent. He played with over 20 future NFL players. Arguably he was the second-best player in his own backfield at USC. For that matter their coaching staff was equally loaded; the head coach is now an NFL head coach and three of the assistants on that staff are the current head coaches at LSU, Ole Miss, and Texas.

No question, those USC teams were loaded. But then again Joe Burrow's LSU team was loaded as was Tim Tebow's Florida team, etc. Most of the guys at the very top played for historically elite programs with plenty of talent.

Right, it’s just something for people to debate. It worked.

Interesting list. I would be curious to see a list of the most valuable QBs in terms of how much better they made their teams; while you can't replace a Young or Tebow, as you get further down the list you probably have some P5 schools that had solid backups at the time who would've still led them to winning as part of a talented roster. G5 programs like Miami in 200 would've been good but forgettable without someone like Big Ben, who only wound up with us since he had just one year in high school as QB and OSU was recruiting him as a TE

NO Michael Vick? Granted his better year was 1999 but in 2000 VT only lost to Miami and he played injured through the first half of the game and came out.

Chris Weinke was omitted he won the Heisman in 2000